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Middle Class Area= No Bonfire, Working Class Area= Burn The Whole Thing Down

  • 31-10-2009 9:19pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭


    I wanted to bring my son to see a bonfire ( his first) and drove around our area (considered a middle class area) for ages looking for one...but just couldnt seem to find one.

    I then found myself in a working class part of Tallaght that seemed to have a bonfire on every street corner and with groups of people seeminly set up to be there for the long haul...

    Im just curious now as to why that would be...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    because they know how to have a party


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    They'e unemployed and have nothing better to do than build bonfires.




    I can't wait until bonfire night :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Voltex


    brummytom wrote: »
    They'e unemployed and have nothing better to do than build bonfires.




    I can't wait until bonfire night :D

    *yikes*..awaiting the wrath of pinko liberals!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Four-Percent


    They're burning the evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Voltex


    Alot of un-sold bintags in Tallaght this week i would also think!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    I live in Tallaght and we threw our old wooden garden table on the field this morning assuming it would be gone pretty quick. Still there now though. I think Tallaght may be coming up in the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Voltex wrote: »

    I then found myself in a working class part of Tallaght that seemed to have a bonfire on every street corner and with groups of people seeminly set up to be there for the long haul...

    Im just curious now as to why that would be...
    .

    a no brainer,the cops are scared sheitless to go into any of those dodgy estates,it's a free for all tonight,imagine a cop trying to stop the boys in Neilstown building their fire up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Voltex


    ...the bonfire I was at a group of women just appeared carrying a set of Bunkbeds and just fecked them on the fire...Ifelt it was time to go when kids started throwing fire works on...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    heavyballs wrote: »
    .

    a no brainer,the cops are scared sheitless to go into any of those dodgy estates,it's a free for all tonight,imagine a cop trying to stop the boys in Neilstown building their fire up


    They just across the road watching atm :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Voltex wrote: »
    I wanted to bring my son to see a bonfire ( his first) and drove around our area (considered a middle class area) for ages looking for one...but just couldnt seem to find one.

    I then found myself in a working class part of Tallaght that seemed to have a bonfire on every street corner and with groups of people seeminly set up to be there for the long haul...

    Im just curious now as to why that would be...

    Surely you mean welfare class ......:D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 130 ✭✭tedstriker


    I wonder is there any correlation between the amount of bangers, bonfires and fireworks around the ****holes of north/south Dublin and the amount of dirty scabby scumbag druggies in Dublin city centre. If there is then it will be the busiest ever Halloween for the emergency services. I wouldn't shed too many tears if most of the inner city slums burnt to the ground tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Surely you mean welfare class ......:D
    That would be the entire country :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    That would be the entire country :D

    Touché


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    tedstriker wrote: »
    I wouldn't shed too many tears if most of the inner city slums burnt to the ground tonight.

    Yeah that'd be great. It'd be even better if they were full of working class people and immigrants. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Yeah that'd be great. It'd be even better if they were full of working class people and immigrants. :rolleyes:
    And the government too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 130 ✭✭tedstriker


    Yeah that'd be great. It'd be even better if they were full of working class people and immigrants. :rolleyes:

    I said nothing about the people??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    Green belts and the working class don't mix!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Green belts and the working class don't mix!

    Only because they graze their horses on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭TheCardHolder


    I lived in a working class area until around the age of 12. There was always a range of bonfires going on around this time of year.

    Since then I've lived out in a suburban area and the only bonfire here every year goes on in the one council estate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 130 ✭✭tedstriker


    Harse, these guys had a great time in Ballymun and didn't want to leave at all:
    http://www.paveepoint.ie/news/roma-photos.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    In Finglas today i seen a garda van and a crowd of people ,so me not being nosey or anything drove past to see what the problem was :D

    Turned out the corpo had turned up to take away all the contents of the bonfire the local lads had collected over a period of time and were setting it up,and the kids parents were not impressed what was going on and this is why the gardai were called

    TBH i think they should have left them to it because now they will have a very big bee in their bonnet and might or probably will take it out on somebody else and give the ES a lot more to do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    In middle and upper class areas the people actually take pride in their communities.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 130 ✭✭tedstriker


    pebbles21 wrote: »
    In Finglas today i seen a garda van and a crowd of people ,so me not being nosey or anything drove past to see what the problem was :D

    Turned out the corpo had turned up to take away all the contents of the bonfire the local lads had collected over a period of time and were setting it up,and the kids parents were not impressed what was going on and this is why the gardai were called

    TBH i think they should have left them to it because now they will have a very big bee in their bonnet and might or probably will take it out on somebody else and give the ES a lot more to do

    There was a report about this on the news there. The corporation spend 150,000 cleaning up bonfires so they prefer to nip it in the bud. They burn their first borns instead now, which is cheaper to clean up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Happy Monday


    Voltex wrote: »
    I wanted to bring my son to see a bonfire ( his first) and drove around our area (considered a middle class area) for ages looking for one...but just couldnt seem to find one.

    Interesting - don't want to hijack this thread but you will notice a trend - bonfires, tracksuits, Ireland flags during world cups all there in working class areas and not at all in middle class areas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    heavyballs wrote: »
    .

    a no brainer,the cops are scared sheitless to go into any of those dodgy estates,it's a free for all tonight,imagine a cop trying to stop the boys in Neilstown building their fire up

    Does it surprise you with the way the little scumbags act around the Emergency Services??? It's a sad world when a ten year old hits a fire fighter in the face with a brick...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Voltex


    Im actually surprised by how blunt boardies are...
    I was trying to be tactile in how I titled this thread....looks like I neddnt have bothered


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Knackers are like Moths, Attracted by the open flame...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 130 ✭✭tedstriker


    Voltex wrote: »
    Im actually surprised by how blunt boardies are...
    I was trying to be tactile in how I titled this thread....looks like I neddnt have bothered
    All the PC boarders are out dressed up as gardeners and yoked off their faces on some sort of natural cocktail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    I don't get this thread,do people have a problem with bonfires?And if so why don't you actually do something about it insted of moaning on boards? Now I'm off to set fire to a pile of wooden pallets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    tedstriker wrote: »
    There was a report about this on the news there. The corporation spend 150,000 cleaning up bonfires so they prefer to nip it in the bud.

    Dublin Corporation should look into their own malpractices before they start spouting off about spending money

    How many times have you seen six men looking into a hole while one is digging and three other ones sitting in three trucks reading the Sun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Sheeps wrote: »
    In middle and upper class areas the people actually take pride in their communities.

    As do a lot of working class people. It's the small minority that don't care and give their community a bad name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Voltex


    I don't get this thread,do people have a problem with bonfires?And if so why don't you actually do something about it insted of moaning on boards? Now I'm off to set fire to a pile of wooden pallets.

    Obviousley I dont...seeing as i set out to find one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    Voltex wrote: »
    Obviousley I dont...seeing as i set out to find one...
    And I wish you well in your search. Maybe you could even start one your self.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    [Ignorant Foreigner] Do the council stage official, safe bonfires and firework displays in local parks over there? [/Ignorant Foreigner]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    brummytom wrote: »
    [Ignorant Foreigner] Do the council stage official, safe bonfires and firework displays in local parks over there? [/Ignorant Foreigner]

    Some neighbourhoods have been known to organise a safe controlled bon fire, but mostly the kids just collect or steal whatever they can throughout October and set it on fire in a field.

    Some adults let off fireworks for the kids, but again mostly it's just kids blowing stuff up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    NothingMan wrote: »
    I live in Tallaght and we threw our old wooden garden table on the field this morning assuming it would be gone pretty quick. Still there now though. I think Tallaght may be coming up in the world.
    Obviously except for scummers like me throwing tables into fields. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    NothingMan wrote: »
    Some neighbourhoods have been known to organise a safe controlled bon fire, but mostly the kids just collect or steal whatever they can throughout October and set it on fire in a field.

    Some adults let off fireworks for the kids, but again mostly it's just kids blowing stuff up.

    Oh right, cheers.
    For once I'm actually quite grateful for our local councils :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Voltex


    NothingMan wrote: »
    Some neighbourhoods have been known to organise a safe controlled bon fire, but mostly the kids just collect or steal whatever they can throughout October and set it on fire in a field.

    Some adults let off fireworks for the kids, but again mostly it's just kids blowing stuff up.

    Throughout October!!!...in some areas they steal all year long.
    I remember being at at a council organised bonfire when I was at Uni in Manchester...very well done...brilliant bonfire. I remeber i couldnt stand within 100ft it was sooooo hot!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Voltex wrote: »
    Throughout October!!!...in some areas they steal all year long.

    Oh they definitely steal all year long, but they get impatient and light smaller fires with their loot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    I came from a middle class housing estate and we had bonfires almost every year, right up until we lost all the ditches and green areas we used to stage our bonfire on and cull wood from when the building started for houses during the Celtic Tiger.

    Come to think of it, the Celtic Tiger killed it off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    Halloween in Ireland is pretty much a contained riot, a chav uprising. The police cede areas of the city unless people are actually getting burned to death. And even then, there is a certain reluctance.
    Ireland flags during world cups all there in working class areas and not at all in middle class areas.

    We should merge patriotism and bonfirism like the English on bonfire day. Instead of burning the guy and the Pope we need to get the chavs burning the Queen. Well, effigies of. That would add a certain patriotic frission to the lumpen takeover of the city.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭b28


    Yeah that'd be great. It'd be even better if they were full of working class people and immigrants. :rolleyes:

    I can't believe how you can get away with saying that!
    Its OTT!!!:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    tedstriker wrote: »
    All the PC boarders are out dressed up as gardeners and yoked off their faces on some sort of natural cocktail.
    Damn, well someone has to step up and fill the void.
    I'll give it a go.

    ...ahem...

    The level of ignorance in this thread is astounding.
    Not all working class people have bonfires and enjoy tracksuits.
    Do you have any links to back up these vile claims?
    Try moving out of your mammys basement and go see some of the world... you think it's bad here? Try walking the streets of Hanajuju on Halloween night, you small-minded, sheltered, bigots would shít your pants.
    Why don't you go out and actually help these people instead of looking down on them? I do voluntary work for six different outreach programs. What do any of you do?
    You all sicken me.


    That should tide us over for now. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    Hanajuju

    Goggle has no clue. I say you made it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Voltex wrote: »
    Im actually surprised by how blunt boardies are...
    I was trying to be tactile in how I titled this thread....looks like I neddnt have bothered

    A lot of people need to vent because they're shaking in their houses over the suffering they've endured tonight: kids hanging around outside, speaking in loud voices and letting off fireworks. Imagine!

    Bitching on here beats going out and getting owned by some 16 year old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    I was chased by two 11 year olds two years ago. Left the country in shame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    asdasd wrote: »
    I was chased by two 11 year olds two years ago. Left the country in shame.

    Are you sure you didn't leave in shame because you were chasing them? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    I wish,dude. I wish.

    They were tough feckers. I fled like a ...scared.. fleer.. from...stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Wow.

    So working class equals knacker/scumbag/chav etc.

    (I could use some strong words here, but I shall not)

    Lets just I am not best pleased about the usual lazy stereotypes being rolled out here.

    Maybe there are bonfires in these areas because they like having fun.

    A side note ---there is scum in all the 'classes'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    KungPao wrote: »
    Wow.

    So working class equals knacker/scumbag/chav etc.

    No, but vast majority of knacker/scumbag/chav etc = working class


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