Baldoyle or Raheny ?

hoolihoop

Hey there, looking at both of these areas for buying a house and wondering what people think is a better area in terms of community, facilities etc ? can either buy a Terraced house in Raheny or a Semi in Baldoyle. would appreciate the feedback - thanks !

Dord

I think Raheny would be a better choice. It's a more settled area and has greater amenities & better public transport links. You would also be beside St. Annes Park and Bull Island - nice for walks!

lightening

Dord wrote: »

I think Raheny would be a better choice. It's a more settled area and has greater amenities & better public transport links. You would also be beside St. Annes Park and Bull Island - nice for walks!

Deffo... closer to town too. BUT Baldoyle is lovely and sometimes a terraced house means dragging green/brown/black bins through the house. I moved to Raheny about five years ago. Can't get over the amenities, wildlife, public transport, quiet open spaces... etc. Good luck with your choice.

Clare Bear

I'd go for Raheny over Baldoyle too. It has a lot more going for it than Baldoyle (nothing wrong with Baldoyle, I lived there for a couple of months but think Raheny has better amenities).

KTRIC

Raheny by far. Its a nice settled community.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Raheny is nice, but if my terraced house your talking about the old corpo house's up around St.Annes park I'd suggest looking for a more modern house elsewhere.

In my experience buys these old house's is really a nightmare from day one until you move. You'll always be catching up with repairs and anything else from re-wiring to damp proofing.

Have you any idea what part of Baldoyle you'll be looking at?.

lightening

Malani Crashing Soap wrote: »

Have you any idea what part of Baldoyle you'll be looking at?.

Some FINE big houses in Baldoyle! Great area, sometimes overlooked to be honest.

rcunning03

lightening wrote: »

Some FINE big houses in Baldoyle! Great area, sometimes overlooked to be honest.

I would go for Baldoyle. Raheny is lovely but you pay a bit more for the snob appeal of Raheny.

Baldoyle is close to Clongriffin and Fr. Collins Park and it's very near the coast as well. Baldoyle doesn't seem as clustered as Raheny. Both are lovely areas but Baldoyle has the edge for me

hoolihoop

thanks for feedback all - some good points. house in baldoyle much bigger however its on a main road ! will prob end up going with that one tho- i think

rcunning03

hoolihoop wrote: »

thanks for feedback all - some good points. house in baldoyle much bigger however its on a main road ! will prob end up going with that one tho- i think

Either area is nice and settled and the beach is beside both of them.

Enjoy:)

lightening

rcunning03 wrote: »

Either area is nice and settled and the beach is beside both of them.

A major major plus. I spend a huge amount of time in, on or beside the sea. It's amazing the amount of people that live near me that never go to the beach or parks in the area.

Best of luck OP, tell us where you settle for!

WindSock

Both are grand spots. For me I would probably choose Raheny for it's proximity to the City and public transport and cycling, there is a Dart station in the village, which is more conveniant than Sutton Dart station for Baldoyle.
St Annes Park is also legend. Both have Libraries. Seem to be a few more shops and amenities in Raheny also, but neither towns are very far from each other anyway.
The downside in Raheny is you have to put up with heaps of learner drivers

Dord

WindSock wrote: »

The downside in Raheny is you have to put up with heaps of learner drivers

Yes, but if you do have to do your test it's great. Plus it's got the shortest waiting time for a test in Dublin apparently.

Gaspode

Has to be Raheny for me, but nowt wrong with Baldoyle really.

artanevilla

It really depends on which part of which area.

Davy

WindSock wrote: »

For me I would probably choose Raheny for it's proximity to the City and public transport and cycling, there is a Dart station in the village, which is more conveniant than Sutton Dart station for Baldoyle.

Bayside dart is very close to many estates in baldoyle too.

Degsy

In baldoyle avoid Moyclare and seagrange,especially moyclare..there's been quite a few drug-related killings and a good bit of drug dealing still goes on around here..also bayside trainstaion is not safe after dark.

Vanbis

Degsy wrote: »

In baldoyle avoid Moyclare and seagrange,especially moyclare..there's been quite a few drug-related killings and a good bit of drug dealing still goes on around here

Yes it goes on and i'm sure it does just as much in Rahney.

Degsy wrote: »

..also bayside trainstaion is not safe after dark.

I would avoid this station in the late evenings if possbile as it seems to gather the wrong crowd at times.

tricky D

Yup, Harmonstown and Edenmore ends of Raheny are dodgy for drugs and killings.

OP both Raheny and Baldoyle are big areas. You really need to tell us where abouts in those areas you're looking at as they both have their bad and really good patches.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Degsy wrote: »

In baldoyle avoid Moyclare and seagrange,especially moyclare..there's been quite a few drug-related killings and a good bit of drug dealing still goes on around here..also bayside trainstaion is not safe after dark.

In Moyclare there's been one shooting, it was more than ten years ago and nothing to do with drugs.

As for the security situation at the DART stations, its a problem which exists in just about all DART stations and is in no way worse in Bayside than anywhere else.

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universe777

I would go for Raheny..
A much better area, in terms of open space, very settled, top notch transport links, pubs, 1 or more restaurants, schools.
Having went to school in Baldoyle, I wouldn't recommend the area, gangs, graffitti, burnt out cars, the usual thuggery.
Both areas don't really have proper supermarkets, just Super Valu's, so you'll have to go to Donaghmede Shopping Centre maybe.
Parts of Baldoyle are prone to flooding also. Living right beside the sea has it's downfalls, flooding for one, also the cold wind blowing right in the door.
Baldoyle is a bit isolated in my opinion, not a whole heap going on, limited transport.
Bayside train station is quite dangerous after dark, which is from 5pm onwards these days. Gangs congregate on both sides of the station.
If it was me I would go for the Raheny one without a doubt.

Larianne

I've seen security at Bayside station. Are they not there at night time?

miss no stars

Degsy wrote: »

In baldoyle avoid Moyclare and seagrange,especially moyclare..there's been quite a few drug-related killings and a good bit of drug dealing still goes on around here..also bayside trainstaion is not safe after dark.

tricky D wrote: »

Yup, Harmonstown and Edenmore ends of Raheny are dodgy for drugs and killings.

OP both Raheny and Baldoyle are big areas. You really need to tell us where abouts in those areas you're looking at as they both have their bad and really good patches.

They're the crux of it. Big areas, both with bad areas within them.

Malani Crashing Soap wrote: »

In Moyclare there's been one shooting, it was more than ten years ago and nothing to do with drugs.

Having grown up in D13 and having been a teenager inclined towards friends from that area, I beg to differ.



OP, both areas have good points and bad points. If it was a nice area of Baldoyle and a bad area in Raheny, I'd pick baldoyle and vice versa. If they're both on level footing in terms of niceness, Raheny would probably have the edge for me in terms of areas. There's just more going on. But that's based purely on the area and takes into account nothing about the size and niceness of the house.

arybvtcw0eolkf

miss no stars wrote: »

Having grown up in D13 and having been a teenager inclined towards friends from that area, I beg to differ.

Ok, who else was shot in Moyclare then?.

Eoineo

Malani Crashing Soap wrote: »

Ok, who else was shot in Moyclare then?.

Nobody, according to my OH who is from there. :rolleyes:

dearg lady

Baldoyle has a pretty bad rep and it's largely unfounded. I think , as tricky d said it really depends where in each area, and also what the house itself is like. Based purely on amenities and proximity to town I would probably lean slightly more towards Raheny. But of course you can probably get a nicer, larger house in Baldoyle.

As regards the train station thing, tbh most train stations are a bit dodge at night, unfortunately the fact that they are up away from the road makes them prime spots for idiots to hang around. There is security at night, I think they move around stations and trains tho. I would feel no more or less safe in Bayside station compared to Raheny station.

Happy househunting

StopNotWorking

I've been living in moyclare for since I was born(20 years now) and there was one shooting around 9 years ago, not drug related. That was the last bad thing to happen there, it used to be a bad place but now it's a lovely place to live in

It's a great estate, everywhere has a history and the problem is peoples parents telling their kids "oh don't go near moyclare it's a terrible place" when it has been fine for the past 10 years.

For example my father lived in edenmore(raheny) and said the place is still very rough. Maybe it is but I'm sure it has changed a lot from when he lived there(some 30 years now). They're both great places but I don't know enough about raheny to say..

From baldoyle village you are 15 minutes walk max from 2 secondary schools, 2 primary schools 4 garages, 3 pubs, 2 churches and a dart station. Theres one big park(seagrange) that's smack in the middle and the coast is about 25 minutes depending on the one you want to go to(coast road leading up to howth or the coast leading to portmarnock).

EDIT: And to add I prefer going to sutton dart station mainly for the walk since you go by the coast. The problem with bayside dart station is the tunnel, going from seagrange park through to the dart station means you have to go under the station in a tunnel. You could have two or three lads in there and if they are making noise it'll sound like there is 10 of them and it can be intimidating walking by them

I love baldoyle so 'a do:pac:

WindSock

Davy wrote: »

Bayside dart is very close to many estates in baldoyle too.

D'oh. Forgot about that.

There is also a Lidl in Baldoyle too.

miss no stars

Malani Crashing Soap wrote: »

Ok, who else was shot in Moyclare then?.

Sorry I meant on the drugs front, not the shootings front. It's stupid to say there's no drugs there, there are drugs everywhere in this country. However, larger estates can (note, not always) cause the problem to be magnified. Especially exacerbated by having a school right by it.

I'm sure that most of the people in Moyclare are lovely. I just wouldn't want to count on the others is all, from past experience.

hoolihoop

thanks again all. looking at Grange Road in Baldoyle and Ashcroft/ Belmont in Raheny ! I never realised the decision where to buy would be so hard !

lightening

Bloody right, it might be the most expensive thing you will ever buy in your life! Drive and park up for a few hours at night and during the day in any area you are considering, get a feel for the area.

rednik

I moved from Dalkey to Raheny nearly 20 years ago. Got married and the OH wanted to stay close to Mammy and all that. Raheny is a great place to live but just like every area it has its ups and downs but mostly up. When I moved I thought the difference would be huge but to be honest both communities are very similar. All this Northside v Southside is just tripe.

donaghs

I'd take Ashcroft/Belmont over the Grange Road in Baldoyle. Not a huge difference between them. The Grange Road has the advantage of the Lidl and Bayside Station, near the sea and Howth. I like both areas and wouldn't describe either as "rough", but there are plenty of skangers within wandering distance.

I prefer the houses in Ashcroft/Belmont. Also, Raheny is closer to town, a slightly nicer village IMHO, and Raheny station is marginally closer (and gets more trains - both Howth & Malahide). There's a big SuperValu in Raheny and a Tesco up the road a bit in Kilbarrack. And Raheny has probably has more pubs, restaurants & social amenities, e.g. GAA club, Athletics club, etc.

tricky D

I'd take Raheny also. It also has a Garda station nearby and if you're in for the long haul, the choice of schools is better imo.

One caveat though. Some of the houses on Ashcroft/Belmont back onto the railway line which could cause some noise issues. Most get used to it, but some don't.

Tombo2001

rednik wrote: »

I moved from Dalkey to Raheny nearly 20 years ago. Got married and the OH wanted to stay close to Mammy and all that. Raheny is a great place to live but just like every area it has its ups and downs but mostly up. When I moved I thought the difference would be huge but to be honest both communities are very similar. All this Northside v Southside is just tripe.

Thats an interesting post. One obvious difference I suppose is that house prices in Dalkey are five times higher than Raheny.....(or thereabouts).

Pigeon Reaper

Raheny and Baldoyle are both fine to live in. Both areas have vastly improved over the years and have good facilities. Raheny does have a nicer park though. I was looking at both areas myself recently and chose Raheny as it's closer to town. Check the area of Baldoyle you buy in for flood history as some roads are badly affected and it will cause insurance problems.

Hollister11

I know this thread is old, but there is no need to start a new one.

I currently live in baldoyle with my parents. They considering selling our house in baldoyle, and moving to Raheny. Primarily to move closer to family, and financially.

What is Raheny like today in terms of amenities like restraunts, cafes shops and public transport ect

subpar

Baldoyle and Raheny are reasonably large and spread out suburbs and both have at their heart an original village hub. There is little to choose between them in terms of amenities.
So it all boils down to exactly which part of either place you are either living in or want to move to, you have to be that specific in order to make a meaningful comparison / analysis.

MisterDrak

Hi,

We moved into Raheny from Swords last November, and love the area. The transport links to the city are fantastic, with a 12 minute commute on the Dart to Connelly station.

As regards Restaurants, it probably only OK. There are only 3-4 of varying quality, with McHugs off St Assams avenue being about the best, Milinos an OK Italian and the Cock and Bull you standard burger / pizza stuff pub stuff. If you want a better verity of places then Clontarf along the sea front is a better bet.

There are a few coffee places, my fav at the moment is in the black banks garden centre, and the place in Red Stables.

Overall the area is reasonably quiet as the population in the town is mostly on the older side, having been first settled in the late 50s / early 60s. There is little traffic to speak off during the day with virtually no traffic in the morning until after 7:30am (in Swords it was pretty much a continuous 24hour occurrence).

The sea front is great for a walkies, and stAnnes a lovely place to stroll around if the mood takes you.

At weekends Howth / Sutton is only 5 mins in the car, and indeed town and the south side 20 minutes odd.

We haven't looked back since we moved...

tricky D

MisterDrak wrote: »

At weekends Howth / Sutton is only 5 mins in the car,

Unfortunately, any decent weather could mean up to an hour if the traffic jams up, though typically more like 20/30 mins, but it's easy to get the DART in that case. My worst ever jam was 105 minutes from just east of the Causeway to Howth.

gaiscioch

Surprised that most people are going for Raheny, which is a lovely, well-kept village with historic buildings. I don't know much about either place but for being right at the sea (as opposed to a short walk from it) the area around Strand Road (look at that view!) clinches it for me. There does seem to be a lack of coordinated planning in Baldoyle's built environment and thus a lack of character and soul to the place, but the sea view!

bren2001

gaiscioch wrote: »

Surprised that most people are going for Raheny, which is a lovely, well-kept village with historic buildings. I don't know much about either place but for being right at the sea (as opposed to a short walk from it) the area around Strand Road (look at that view!) clinches it for me. There does seem to be a lack of coordinated planning in Baldoyle's built environment and thus a lack of character and soul to the place, but the sea view!

Well, if you are not on the Stand Road then the sea view is irrelevant!

I've lived in both and found Raheny has better transport links and amenities. I've found the atmosphere in Raheny village better (but that could be because I happen to know more people there). Raheny is a no brainer for me.

Dr Crayfish

Hollister11 wrote: »

I know this thread is old, but there is no need to start a new one.

I currently live in baldoyle with my parents. They considering selling our house in baldoyle, and moving to Raheny. Primarily to move closer to family, and financially.

What is Raheny like today in terms of amenities like restraunts, cafes shops and public transport ect

Sorry but have you never left Baldoyle? How are you not familiar with Raheny? It's right beside it.
I live beside Raheny, it's lovely. Nice pubs and a couple of decent restaurants.

Hollister11

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Sorry but have you never left Baldoyle? How are you not familiar with Raheny? It's right beside it.
I live beside Raheny, it's lovely. Nice pubs and a couple of decent restaurants.

I'm never in Raheny. I only pass through it.

woodseb

Hollister11 wrote: »

I'm never in Raheny. I only pass through it.

trying stopping

buying a house is the biggest financial decision anyone makes, do your own research and don't rely on anonymous opinions on the internet

tricky D

Raheny would be much better imho. It's got a more distinct and cohesive heart to it where as Baldoyle is more dispersed with fewer amenities. Taking a good tour is a must.

Hollister11

woodseb wrote: »

trying stopping

buying a house is the biggest financial decision anyone makes, do your own research and don't rely on anonymous opinions on the internet

It's my parents not me

ProudDUB

I'm not having a go here, I'm genuinely curious. How can someone live in/grow up in Baldoyle & not know what Raheny is like? They're so close to each other. Have you never driven thru Raheny village with your parents & seen all the shops, pubs, restaurants etc etc?