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LICENCES ARRIVED!!!
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27-10-2009 9:15am#1
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Front of complete document for my bolt-action .22 Sako:
The actual 'Firearm Certificate' is embedded in the page, at the bottom left corner.
...and the back of the same document:
A few points of note:
I applied for 1000 round of ammunition, and was issued 750.
I ticked the 'Silencer' box, and there's no sign of anything about that anywhere that I can see. I've had an authorisation letter for my silencers for years.
On the back of the 'Firearm Certificate', you can see the text "...a Rifle by SAKO of .220 Inches 0.73 bearing the serial number...". The "0.73" bit had me puzzled, until I looked at the shotgun one (see below). This looks like boo-boos are still easily inserted into this shiny new system (I'm pretty sure that's a 'translated' shotgun gauge there), and there's no differentiation between chamberings with the same (or similar) nominal calibre.
Close-up of the Mossberg shotgun Licence (front):
...and back:
I applied for this as a "12 gauge", but that appears to have been translated (approximately) into 'metric inches'; 12 gauge = 0.729 inches.
I also applied for 1000 rounds of ammunition, and was granted 750.
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Got my 4 this morning also. (posted last Wednesday)
Ammo limit of 750 on both shotguns, applied for 1000.
No sign off the silencer on the .22lr or moderator on the .233. Was never contacted about either. :mad:
So what happens then do you take it for granted that the mod is accepted or not
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15th September, or thereabouts.johngalway wrote: »Congrats Rovi
Just out if interest, when did you submit your forms?0 -
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Have had a look at this with the database hat on.
It appears that PULSE is still carved in the rock that Moses brought down the mountain with him
On the old licence there were five fields for describing the firearm: TYPE (Rifle, shotgun etc.), MAKE ('by, ....'), CALIBRE ('of...'), NUMBER (serial number) and CONDITIONS (usually 'None' for rifles).
It appears that these have been reassigned so you have still got the TYPE then MAKE, then you have the CALIBRE which appears to be a text field where they've put in 'single barrel' etc. for shotguns (remember the poster who said calibre was changed from 12 gauge to under and over on his form?) and then you have this extra field which gets the 0.73 for 12 gauge shotguns.
I believe this is the old 'CONDITIONS' field which has been converted for use as an extra calibre field for shotguns and since they're not using it for rifles it's bleeding through with the default value of 0.73. You'll notice the conditions are now printed on the back of the letter, presumably through a seperate operation.
The NUMBER field stays the same and the amount of ammo etc. are all as they were on the old licence.
So effectively we have the same licence but just made smaller.0 -
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Probably not necessary. DOB is what they normally use to find you on Pulse, after all which are you more likely to remember?
Not in all cases, my licence, (still not arrived) was held up slightly at the beginning when it turned out that there is another man bearing the same name and date of birth as me, with a criminal record for aggrevated assualt.. Mothers maiden name and previous addresses sorted it for me, but none the less name and DOB was not enough..0 -
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That's a great excuseNot in all cases, my licence, (still not arrived) was held up slightly at the beginning when it turned out that there is another man bearing the same name and date of birth as me, with a criminal record for aggrevated assualt.. Mothers maiden name and previous addresses sorted it for me, but none the less name and DOB was not enough..
An inventive variation on the 'evil twin' defence 0 -
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So what happens then do you take it for granted that the mod is accepted or not
My response to any garda enquiring will be check the forms I submitted (i have a copy also). According to the my grant letter my application had been successful so I'm taking it as approval until i hear otherwise!0 -
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I got the license for the 308 this morning and now have my Sako 75 sitting in front of me now.
The wife can sleep in the spare room because the 308 is coming to bed with me tonight
No sign off the 22lr getting anywhere not even the letter fo receipt. I got the letter of receipt for the 223 at the same time as the 308 but not a payment letter yet. I put in all the allpications at the same time.0 -
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If that's your mindset, you may as well start briefing the lawyers. I always find that a bit of a chat will sort out most misunderstandings. There'll be plenty of time for lawyers if necessary, and Supers don't have to put refusals in writing, in fact they don't even have to refuse.Phonecalls can be denied.
And the fact of a phone call can't be denied even if the substance of it can.
So what's the point of not talking?0 -
If that's your mindset, you may as well start briefing the lawyers. I always find that a bit of a chat will sort out most misunderstandings. There'll be plenty of time for lawyers if necessary, and Supers don't have to put refusals in writing, in fact they don't even have to refuse.
And the fact of a phone call can't be denied even if the substance of it can.
So what's the point of not talking?
We have already had a chat, face to face, at his request :rolleyes: His opening statement was more or less that in his opinion nobody should have any firearms :eek: Kind of set the tone for the rest of the lecture I got. I have had to get help from the FPU on a number of previous occasions when dealing with him, which sorted things in my favour for want of a better way of putting it and you reckon a chat on the phone will work
Therefore, a registered letter and copies of same to my NGB's and we shall see what happens
I am sick of having to fight for things that other lads get freely and if he wants lawyers and Court cases then I'll oblige him especially as he has told me that he has "no problem with my character". Therefore, I'd love to know what problem he does have with me 0 -
No, I just don't see the problem with it and it's still the best advice in most cases.bunny shooter wrote: ».... and you reckon a chat on the phone will work
Obviously not yours :rolleyes:
Well reducing your ammo allowance may well have been his 'little victory' over the smart ass that brought 'the heavies' in.I am sick of having to fight for things that other lads get freely and if he wants lawyers and Court cases then I'll oblige him especially as he has told me that he has "no problem with my character". Therefore, I'd love to know what problem he does have with me 0 -
Lodged my renewals/re-applications on Sept 11th, getting a specified, signed and dated receipt.:D
Oct 8th, called into District Office, inquiring as to why no receipt of application letters. Told it would be all worked out.;)
Oct 23rd, called Division office to see what the hold up was. They had never heard of me.:mad:
Oct 27th, called back to District office, big investigation between them and FAO.
OUTCOME : must be lost in post between local and district offices (less than 1 mile), sorry but don't worry it wll be ok.:(
So much for a new streamlined, efficient system. Come Saturday i am now a criminal on the ERU hitlist:eek:If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.
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No, I just don't see the problem with it and it's still the best advice in most cases.
I agree in most cases it is and with previous Supers I have never had to deal with this level of crap.Obviously not yours :rolleyes:
If it was an isolated incident I wouldn't mind but this is constant harrassmentWell reducing your ammo allowance may well have been his 'little victory' over the smart ass that brought 'the heavies' in.
I am not the only one to get this treatment if what I hear is right. I "brought" and will bring 'the heavies' in again and again and again until I am treated like most other shooters in this country. I am not a criminal even if the Minister for Justice reckons I am just because I want to own firearms These types of Supers must all have been trained by rewatching Judge Dread over and over again "I am the Law"
I might take this to the Ombudsman or there may be equality issues here too ?0 -
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tonysopprano wrote: »Lodged my renewals/re-applications on Sept 11th, getting a specified, signed and dated receipt.:D
Oct 8th, called into District Office, inquiring as to why no receipt of application letters. Told it would be all worked out.;)
Oct 23rd, called Division office to see what the hold up was. They had never heard of me.:mad:
Oct 27th, called back to District office, big investigation between them and FAO.
OUTCOME : must be lost in post between local and district offices (less than 1 mile), sorry but don't worry it wll be ok.:(
So much for a new streamlined, efficient system. Come Saturday i am now a criminal on the ERU hitlist:eek:
And they want to protest at pay cuts ffs if it was a private company most of them would have been sacked years ago :rolleyes:0 -
tonysopprano wrote: »Lodged my renewals/re-applications on Sept 11th, getting a specified, signed and dated receipt.:D
Oct 8th, called into District Office, inquiring as to why no receipt of application letters. Told it would be all worked out.;)
Oct 23rd, called Division office to see what the hold up was. They had never heard of me.:mad:
Oct 27th, called back to District office, big investigation between them and FAO.
OUTCOME : must be lost in post between local and district offices (less than 1 mile), sorry but don't worry it wll be ok.:(
So much for a new streamlined, efficient system. Come Saturday i am now a criminal on the ERU hitlist:eek:
i rang my local this morning no answer ,rang the district office yea the two cops are off today but will be working tomorrow at nine.
told him what i was at ,o just put them into the letter box .i told him i wanted to hand them to the Sargent .
this is not good enough ,some one should be onto the national papers or radio with this story ,over 20,000 more unlicensed firearms in the country from sat nite at 12 o clock.0 -
As a matter of interest, it would appear that I'm now licenced on what I suspect is the biggest rifle in the country:
:D:D
It's actually a .223 Rem, and was applied for as such.
Here's a screen-grab of 'Calibre' box on the application form:
I'm at a loss to see how that might be illegible or could be mistaken for something else. 0 -
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