Thinking about buying in Tyrelstown

brigadear

Am just wondering what it is like to live in Tyrelstown, as am thinking about buying in the area. I havent seen any houses just yet, just been checking them out on Daft, hope to view a few this week. What are the houses like and the general area, is it a nice area, cheers.

Jip

It's relatively quite, not too much goes on and if it does, you'll hear about it through the Tyrrelstown Community website, http://www.tyrrelstown.org/ There's a decent bunch of people there who may be able to help you, but of course there's the odd messer who won't give you a straight answer. There's a decent little village there where you can get most things you need for day to day living but some people will argue that it's 'isolated'. I wouldn't agree with that, it's served by 4 buses I think, 40D, 38C (not too regular), one that goes to the centre (even less regular) and the Ur Bus that goes from Swords via the airport to Castleknock.

Enii

I like Tyrellstown!

It is a nicely laid out town! and the amenities are great..... good shops and a nice playground.....

mikemac

Where do you work?
Have you factored in commuting times?

angel01

What part of Tyrrelstown are you thinking about going to?

theT

need a wee bit of info on Tyrellstown if anyone can help, looking into buying a house up there and hoping someone can give me a feel for the area. schools ,noise, vandilism and that sort of stuff

ironictoaster

I live there. Area is pretty good, very quiet. We got 8 trick or treaters last year for halloween that tells you how quiet it is.

I have seen the odd bit of graffitti here and there, but nothing too major.

There's an educate together right beside Tyrrelstown, thats all I really know about it.

Buses are good to the city centre, once off the road works around Ballycoolin indl estate is complete it should be a lot faster. Buses to the shopping centre are pretty though, they come only 5 or 6 times a day.

John Mason

you might get a better response in the Dublin 15 Forum

Degsy

Going to be a nice little ghetto in a few years..terrible infastructure and a widely-reported "white flight" from the schools.

Jip

Degsy, you quite simply don't know what you're talking about, and it's plainly obvious you've no idea what the area is like.

Any links to these reports, which you say are widely reported, which somehow I have missed despite living in Dublin 15 and read all the local papers and issues. Do these 'widely reported' reports go any further than your head or bar talk ?

OP, take no notice of what the guy has to say, he wouldn't be known as a constructive poster around here, just take a look at his previous posts, he has a fascination with the insult thread which says it all.

Have a look at the previous Tyrrelstown thread on this forum.

Gaspode

Degsy, this isnt After Hours so those sort of comments wont be tolerated here. If you've nothing constructive to say, go away.

Degsy

Gaspode wrote: »

Degsy, this isnt After Hours so those sort of comments wont be tolerated here. If you've nothing constructive to say, go away.

Oh you want me to back it up then?
No problem.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/schools-warn-of--white-flight-of-students-1200203.html

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055168648

http://www.irishtimes.com/premium/loginpage
http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135370

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUUD7MqxmxE


Is that (and the fact that i was looking to buy there once) enough for you?

references to my previous posts anywhere else arent relevant either.

Degsy

Jip wrote: »

It's relatively quite, not too much goes on and if it does, you'll hear about it through the Tyrrelstown Community website, http://www.tyrrelstown.org/ There's a decent bunch of people there who may be able to help you, but of course there's the odd messer who won't give you a straight answer. There's a decent little village there where you can get most things you need for day to day living but some people will argue that it's 'isolated'. I wouldn't agree with that, it's served by 4 buses I think, 40D, 38C (not too regular), one that goes to the centre (even less regular) and the Ur Bus that goes from Swords via the airport to Castleknock.

In the middle of nowhere and the "bus service" is appalling..

ironictoaster

Degsy wrote: »

Oh you want me to back it up then?
No problem.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/schools-warn-of--white-flight-of-students-1200203.html

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055168648

http://www.irishtimes.com/premium/loginpage
http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135370

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUUD7MqxmxE


Is that (and the fact that i was looking to buy there once) enough for you?

references to my previous posts anywhere else arent relevant either.

Last video was really interesting. Anyways, new housing development will always attract foreign nationals.

Degsy

The new developments havnt attracted foreign nationals as such..many of the dwellings were purchased by "by-to-let" landlords and rented through the local authorities or privatley.
By and large the foreign nationals are renting and not buying so this will always give an intransient feel to a neighbourhood as well as possible delinquency issues etc.
I also found the tyrellstown property to be hugely expensive given its lack of amenities and its isolated location.
We were quoted in excess of 500k for a standard 3 bed semi detached house only two years ago.The same money would have bought a mature property in the 4 bed range in somewhere like drumcondra.
Anybody who bought property at that sort of pricing is going to find them completely unsaleable..tyrrelstown,ongar and adamstown are projects that will never be completed and never equate to good value OR good locations.

angel01

It is a pretty quiet area, good shops locally and not far from Blanchardstown shopping centres, few bus routes to choose from and all in all, a very nice area.

Check out www.tyrrelstown.net for a local website.

angel01

Degsy wrote: »

In the middle of nowhere and the "bus service" is appalling..

I hardly think that being roughly 45 mins away from town is the middle of nowhere. The buses run to timetable and get you there on time, how is that appalling? There are 4 routes to choose from too.

Jip

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Jip

Eh, that's about Dublin 15 in general, and is the same for all of west Dublin.

What further amenities would you like to see in the area that are in this other utopia you seem to have found yourself ? And your claim that you were quoted in excess of $500k for a semi in the area 2 years ago is a gross exaggeration, if it was a private sale the seller was chancing their arm and has no relevance to the area.

angel01

Jip wrote: »

SNIP

Okay cheers

ironictoaster

The 40D is fine, once the road works around Ballycoolin is sorted out, it will be faster. However, the 38C to Blanchardstown SC is a joke.

Degsy

Jip wrote: »

And your claim that you were quoted in excess of $500k for a semi in the area 2 years ago is a gross exaggeration, if it was a private sale the seller was chancing their arm and has no relevance to the area.

So i'm a liar now am i?
It was a new house that they hadnt built yet..this was an off the plans sale..there was almost nobody there and the vendor was sitting there twiddling her thumbs.
If i remember correctly the exact price was 520k..our budget was just under 500 and even then it seemed like an utter rip-off.
Check here to see whats happened to the prices since...and look at the "special offers"..they're trying to sell off groups of houses as well as individual lots.

Jip

I never said you're a liar, maybe just a little naive. You do realise that every area in the country had ridiculous house prices at the height of the boom don't you, Tyrrelstown was no different than anywhere else at the time. And it's now different no in the developer offering incentives to buy there.

And to save anyone else having to click each of your links, why don't you highlight for us each paragraph etc that concerns Tyrrelstown ?

Gaspode

Degsy and Jip - final warning to both of you; please remain on topic, if you want to have a row take it to pm.

Nevyn

The 40d route isn't bad hell it will get you into the ity centre quicker then the 38/39.
There are some shops and facilities but you really have to have a car to get to an from everything.

angel01

Thaedydal wrote: »

The 40d route isn't bad hell it will get you into the ity centre quicker then the 38/39.
There are some shops and facilities but you really have to have a car to get to an from everything.

I think the 40D is a pretty good route. To be honest, I don't have a car and I manage ok The Urbus is pretty decent too.

angel01

creggy wrote: »

The 40D is fine, once the road works around Ballycoolin is sorted out, it will be faster. However, the 38C to Blanchardstown SC is a joke.

The 38C doesn't go to Blanchardstown SC, The 236 does, however I usually get the Urbus to the shopping centre. I think its great and cheap too!

brigadear

I work in town, and commute by bus. Was thinking about Bealing mews.

amdublin

Thaedydal wrote: »

There are some shops and facilities but you really have to have a car to get to an from everything.

To and from everything? What else do you need of there are shops and facilities.

I used to live there - had an apartment (moved to house elsewhere in D15 when I got married)

I think it is a lovely area. I commuted in and out of town no problem.

TBH I found all the different nationalities living there gave it a wonderful cultural feel....

I'm still up and down to T'stown (to Lidl etc). It is growing into itself well -better than Ongar for example imo.. The builders seemed to invest a lot in planting and it is showing now...

There is a thread from a couple of months here I think, I remember commenting before.

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angel01

brigadear wrote: »

I work in town, and commute by bus. Was thinking about Bealing mews.

Its pretty okay by there

Gaspode

I have merged the 2 Tyrellstown threads started this month into one.
Please remain on topic, if you have anything to say about this area good bad or indifferent, feel free but stick to the facts.

brigadear

Thanks for the info, but I have to wonder does anybody that posted actually live in Tyrellstown, a lot of conflicting opinions, cheers.

Jip

How do you know none of the posters don't live there ? Alot of people like to give out as little information as possible on public forums so a poster or two probably do live there, one does anyway, another used to.

Gaspode

brigadear, unfortunatley, with this type of thread you do tend to get a wide variety of often very conflicting opinions.
Keep an eye on the thread, but also follow the links someone else posted earlier for more info. Go out to the area during the day, and during the night, and get an impression of the place. (Be aware that this weekend is bedlam all over Dublin, so I would wait a while before doing your night check).


If anyone on here lives in the area, it might be worth stating that when giving your impressions of the area; similarly for those who dont actually live there.

Personally I dont know the area well, so I'm sod all use to you I'm afraid!

ironictoaster

angel01 wrote: »

The 38C doesn't go to Blanchardstown SC, The 236 does, however I usually get the Urbus to the shopping centre. I think its great and cheap too!

oops, that's right

Where do get the urbus from? I have never seen it up here.

Jip

creggy wrote: »

Where do get the urbus from? I have never seen it up here.

It comes right into the estate at the shops, not sure if every scheduled bus does so but that's where it enters the estate anyway.

angel01

creggy wrote: »

oops, that's right

Where do get the urbus from? I have never seen it up here.

You get it from the 38C stop. check urbus.ie

brigadear

Well I was up there today and have to say most of the areas seemed nice, especially down in Oakland village where they are still building, although dont think will be buying there with the price they asking. 4 bed asking price is 285k, which seems bit steep since prices are still falling.

Enii

My sister used to live there. she shared an apartment with another girl. They never experienced any type of anti-social behaviour.......

I do my shopping in the Lidl there and find it fine.

Have never been in to the Tiger Lily Boutique but it looks nice. Have been in to the kids shoe shop and it seemed to have a good selection.

Hope this helps!

Naked Lepper

i lived in Tyrrelstown up until around a year ago

also worked in the area (ballycoolin) and have many friends who live in tyrrelstown

id strongly advise AGAINST buying there

the houses are really badly built - you can hear your neighbours phones beeping etc

the bus service is terrible and not that frequent / on time

takes forever to get to town

taxi from town costs a FORTUNE (35+ mark at least)

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its just around the corner from mulhuddart etc which is not the best area - lots of robbed cars, shootings etc.. a 23 year old guy was shot outside the shops 5 mins walk from tyrrelstown last week..

anyway just my experience of the place, ive lived in many areas and in a few countries and tyrrelstowns definitely the most depressing place out of the lot

sure we even got clamped for parking outside our hours! and the neighbours even painted their house number on a visitor parking spot and then denied it ! - people up there are proper ***** about parking and theres never anywhere to park, i guess its like that in lots of new places these days tho

as for that tyrrelstown forum, if i posted this up on there id probably get banned - and any people who bought gaffs in the area will be very protective as they dont like people bad mouthing their property prices

Jip

Some exaggerated claims above.

I'll start on the time it takes to town, 30-40 minutes at most off peak, haven't got a bus at peak times in a while but it wasn't more than an hour.

From the city centre the distance is about 9-10 miles, depending on what part of the city you're in so the taxi fare will be same for anywhere else in Dublin which is that distance out.

There's very little anti-social behaviour in the area, and what is there is usually acted upon very quickly, people have no problems ringing the gardai and they usually act on any tips etc. Take for example a recent spate of graffiti, residents found out who done it, info was passed onto the community garda and the person was confronted, admitted to it and it was all cleaned up.

If you were clamped outside your own house you were obviously not abiding by the management contract you signed up to and were parked on the footpath, that should have come as no surprise to you and again is no different than many recent developments. However clampers are no longer operational in the area bar around the shops. If you don't have more than 2 cars parking is not an issue, and because you had an issue with one particular neighbour claiming a spot it has no relevance to the rest of the area, you should have complained to the management agent (unless it was Smiths as they're useless).

I can't understand how you found the place depressing, I'm can only assume you didn't get involved in the community, be it the soccer, gaa or local quizzes and events or even your neighbours, the area is as vibrant as an individual wants it to be.

I will concede that noise levels can be a concern in some of the houses, however again that's been a common problem in most new developments in recent years, that apartment complex on the Snugborough Road at the N3 is paper thin for example.

The shooting has nothing whatsoever to do with the area, what happens in one place has no reflection on another.

Gaspode

Naked Lepper wrote: »

i lived in Tyrrelstown up until around a year ago.....................

From your post It sounds more like the actual complex you were in was poor rather than the neighbourhood itself.

Enii

Naked Lepper wrote: »

taxi from town costs a FORTUNE (35+ mark at least)

There is the nightlink as an alternative.

Enii

Naked Lepper wrote: »

its just around the corner from mulhuddart etc which is not the best area - lots of robbed cars, shootings etc.. a 23 year old guy was shot outside the shops 5 mins walk from tyrrelstown last week..

This has nothing to do with Tyrrelstown so need to mention it.

As a side Mulhuddart is a much longer walk then 5 mins from TT.

amdublin

Naked Lepper wrote: »

taxi from town costs a FORTUNE (35+ mark at least)

I would take this up with the taxi regulator. You were clearly ripped off. I never paid over €28 to get home to Tyrrelstown.

Which is pretty standard for town to D15 - I live in Clonsilla now and it costs aprox €24 to get a taxi. Which is why I get the nitelink!!!

And on the subject of nitelink. The 39N nitelink to T'stown is great compared to the 70N (to Ongar) which I get now which only runs twice a night.

OP I would suggest if you are thinking of moving to Tyrellstown you go up and drive/walk around and feel the vibe of the place.....

brigadear

Naked Lepper wrote: »

i lived in Tyrrelstown up until around a year ago

also worked in the area (ballycoolin) and have many friends who live in tyrrelstown

id strongly advise AGAINST buying there

the houses are really badly built - you can hear your neighbours phones beeping etc

the bus service is terrible and not that frequent / on time

takes forever to get to town

taxi from town costs a FORTUNE (35+ mark at least)

<SNIP>

its just around the corner from mulhuddart etc which is not the best area - lots of robbed cars, shootings etc.. a 23 year old guy was shot outside the shops 5 mins walk from tyrrelstown last week..

anyway just my experience of the place, ive lived in many areas and in a few countries and tyrrelstowns definitely the most depressing place out of the lot

sure we even got clamped for parking outside our hours! and the neighbours even painted their house number on a visitor parking spot and then denied it ! - people up there are proper ***** about parking and theres never anywhere to park, i guess its like that in lots of new places these days tho

as for that tyrrelstown forum, if i posted this up on there id probably get banned - and any people who bought gaffs in the area will be very protective as they dont like people bad mouthing their property prices

I think you are exaggerating quite a bit. Dont know what taxi firm you used, but if I were you I would use a different one next time, 35 euro!!. I have lived in Blanchardstown for the last 10 years and the most I paid has been 25 euro. As for the shooting, as somebody pointed out thats a different area, and I know the area well as I use to live not far from it, cars get robbed everywhere, dosent matter if its Dublin 15 or Dublin 4. I was hoping to get a balanced view from everybody, but I know that I cant take your post serious. I just hope you were also making up about the noise level between houses.

amdublin

brigadear wrote: »

I just hope you were also making up about the noise level between houses.

I remember when I moved in there was something on the radio (Joe Duffy or the like) about the bad standard of houses built in D15 and the sound travelling between them etc etc.

My dad was really worried about this when he heard and he was always having a good aul "listen out" when in my aptmt. In the end he agreed that there was absolutely no problem with noise from other houses/aptmts.

I think at the time it was more about other houses/estates being built around the time (not naming any names!) that were built with wood frames rather than Tyrrelstown which is all blocks - I think.

Anyway, long story short I never had any problems with hearing my neighbours when in Tyrrelstown.

My current house is 20 years old and I can actually hear my neighbours plugging plugs into sockets but hey you get used to it lol!

AndreeaMac

Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a house in Tyrelstown, but I see quite old reviews, I'm sure some things might have changed since 2009. I was interested in some opinions about the area. Is it considered a safe area? Or which parts of the village are considered better? Family friendly? What's the quality of the houses? What's the general feeling? Pros & Cons?

Goose Reckoning

AndreeaMac wrote: »

Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a house in Tyrelstown, but I see quite old reviews, I'm sure some things might have changed since 2009. I was interested in some opinions about the area. Is it considered a safe area? Or which parts of the village are considered better? Family friendly? What's the quality of the houses? What's the general feeling? Pros & Cons?

There's a more recent thread, I can't post a proper link because I'm a new user but try this:
www . boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105436095
Some talk of antisocial behaviour and ghettos forming in the area would concern me. There are other settled and much nicer areas in Dublin 15 at a similar price range.

scouserstation

AndreeaMac wrote: »

Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a house in Tyrelstown, but I see quite old reviews, I'm sure some things might have changed since 2009. I was interested in some opinions about the area. Is it considered a safe area? Or which parts of the village are considered better? Family friendly? What's the quality of the houses? What's the general feeling? Pros & Cons?

Been living here for nearly 15 years and have never had an issue, a few reports of gang violence and cocaine epidemics are ridiculously over exaggerated, it is probably one of the safest places to live in Dublin 15, I have lived in Clonsilla and Mulhuddart over the years and have had a car broken into and gangs hanging around the areas, Tyrrelstown is one of the quieter areas I have lived in

Kyta

scouserstation wrote: »

Been living here for nearly 15 years and have never had an issue, a few reports of gang violence and cocaine epidemics are ridiculously over exaggerated, it is probably one of the safest places to live in Dublin 15, I have lived in Clonsilla and Mulhuddart over the years and have had a car broken into and gangs hanging around the areas, Tyrrelstown is one of the quieter areas I have lived in

That's stretching the truth a little.

Andreaa do your own research, there's a facebook group called 'Tyrrelstown Neighbourhood Watch' who are active in trying to fight the crime problems and antisocial behaviour in the area. It's public so you can scroll back through the history to see the kind of problems residents have.

Also search google for 'Tyrrelstown gangs', there's various news articles, garda press releases, forum posts etc. detailing the problems in the area.