Ireland's Crime Capitals

Liam Byrne

Just saw a promo for a new programme on TV3 on Thursday called "Ireland's Crime Capitals".

While it's predictably unfortunate that they've stereotypically chosen Limerick for the first episode, at least the title has a plural and therefore isn't an issue. But does anyone know where they're going to visit in their travels ?

And what are the chances that they'll treat all areas equally, I wonder ?

RonMexico

It is just Donal McIntyre's show. Just expect to see the worst part of the city, he does the same thing with every city he visits. No doubt a few "characters" will get a chance to swell up like toads for the cameras.

krudler

What are we Gotham City now?first stop for negative city documentaries, actually thatd be cool, wonder what kind of villains Batman would face here

Kess73

krudler wrote: »

What are we Gotham City now?first stop for negative city documentaries, actually thatd be cool, wonder what kind of villains Batman would face here

Hehe I have an image in my head of Batman trying to figure out who nicked the wheels off of the batmobile.:)


Antnee and Deckie doesn't quite have the same ring as Bat villians as the Joker and Hush do.

RonMexico

Kevin Kiely as Two-Face

Willie O Dea as The Penguin

I wish I had photoshop.

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

RonMexico wrote: »

Kevin Kiely as Two-Face

Willie O Dea as The Penguin

I wish I had photoshop.

I did a really bad version of Willie O Dea as Penguin if you wanna see?

Could you imagine it "golly gee whiz Batman it's Rasher and Steamer our arch enemies"

concussion

How can a country have two capitals? If they can't even get that right, I despair for the series.

Kess73

concussion wrote: »

How can a country have two capitals? If they can't even get that right, I despair for the series.

It says nothing about the country having two capitals, the series is crime capitals, which are the places it thinks have the most crime in Ireland.


So expect Limerick, Cork, Kilkenny, Athlone, and Waterford to feature, with the last episode no doubt kept for the Dublin criminals.


I'm just happy Limerick is up first as normally in this type of show they show what they think is a pretty bad place to start a series to get attention, but what they regard as the worst place is nearly always kept for the last show.

Insect Overlord

Was fairly disgusted when I first saw the ad. Then I reminded myself, it's only TV3, most of their out-put is basically the television equivalent of the Daily Mail, so its not worth getting bothered about. We all know at this stage that Limerick has its good parts and its bad.

I wonder if it'll feature our most offensive Halloween decoration?

gaf1983

Apparently he describes Moyross and Southill as shanty-towns. When he was working for Channel 5 he wanted to include Limerick in a top 5 international no go areas, up their with some of Latin America's finest. Typical delusional Jackeen. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna watch it, I'll at least Sky Plus it anyway.

krudler

gaf1983 wrote: »

Apparently he describes Moyross and Southill as shanty-towns. When he was working for Channel 5 he wanted to include Limerick in a top 5 international no go areas, up their with some of Latin America's finest. Typical delusional Jackeen. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna watch it, I'll at least Sky Plus it anyway.

Typical Limerick "we can insult people from other cities but we get bent out of shape when people criticise us" mentality:rolleyes:

Reginald P. DuM

I don't see anything stereotypical about basing a show around the crime in Limerick. It's as bad if not worse than the rest of the crime centres that will feature in the show. No one is suggesting there aren't decent people living there, its just that nasty folk do too and they are the core subject of the show. I still won't watch it, TV3 and my remote never synchronize, it's a crap station, always was always will be.

DarkJager

krudler wrote: »

Typical Limerick "we can insult people from other cities but we get bent out of shape when people criticise us" mentality:rolleyes:

Its not getting bent out of shape about people insulting us, such people can quite frankly go choke on a bag of dicks for all we should care. Its about constantly portraying Limerick as Irelands own Compton, when if the stats behind such coverage are logically looked at, its not that dangerous at all. Yes, people get killed but its all down to 2 groups. I don't see drive by's in Limerick City centre, do you? That's a crime capital if you want to define it, where the gangsters are literally running the city with little to no interference from the police.

krudler

DarkJager wrote: »

Its not getting bent out of shape about people insulting us, such people can quite frankly go choke on a bag of dicks for all we should care. Its about constantly portraying Limerick as Irelands own Compton, when if the stats behind such coverage are logically looked at, its not that dangerous at all. Yes, people get killed but its all down to 2 groups. I don't see drive by's in Limerick City centre, do you? That's a crime capital if you want to define it, where the gangsters are literally running the city with little to no interference from the police.

Isnt that what essientially happening though? people are being killed and nobody's being convicted as people dont want to speak up or are threatened for doing so. I just dont get the Limerick attitude of "sure Dublin is worse!" any time someone says something about the crime here, doesnt matter if Dublin is worse, we're not talking about Dublin, we're talking about here, and there is crime, plenty of it. This constant "or sure its all just the dublin media" excuse has gotten old, and its just that, an excuse

DarkJager

krudler wrote: »

Isnt that what essientially happening though? people are being killed and nobody's being convicted as people dont want to speak up or are threatened for doing so. I just dont get the Limerick attitude of "sure Dublin is worse!" any time someone says something about the crime here, doesnt matter if Dublin is worse, we're not talking about Dublin, we're talking about here, and there is crime, plenty of it. This constant "or sure its all just the dublin media" excuse has gotten old, and its just that, an excuse

The gardai don't do themselves any favors when it comes to public perception in this city, but I am willing to bet that behind the scenes, they are building a book of evidence that will put both scumbag families away for the rest of eternity. If we don't have faith in our police service, we are already handing over the city to the scumbags.

Kess73

DarkJager wrote: »

Its not getting bent out of shape about people insulting us, such people can quite frankly go choke on a bag of dicks for all we should care. Its about constantly portraying Limerick as Irelands own Compton, when if the stats behind such coverage are logically looked at, its not that dangerous at all. Yes, people get killed but its all down to 2 groups. I don't see drive by's in Limerick City centre, do you? That's a crime capital if you want to define it, where the gangsters are literally running the city with little to no interference from the police.

You mean besides the guy who got shot in the leg in a drive by on Parnell Street, or the guy who had shots taken at him on William Street, botrh in the last 12 months or so?


Our scum are not running the city though, but there is little or no interference in what they do by the Gardai.


We have serious problems here in Limerick, problems that are getting worse, but the media does tend to take those serious problems and multiply them tenfold.

missgwish

i dunno, i recently rang Henry St for a scumbag related incident and they were at the house in 10 mins to sort it out.

as with every city we have our good points and bad but all in all i think the Gardai do a brilliant job. as said earlier its 2 main groups that cause the problems but 99 times out of 100 they're killing each other. yes occasionally there is an innocent bystander but that is definetly the exception to the rule.

fair enough if i'm walking around town at night i keep a careful eye around me but i don't carry any weapons, where as a few mates in Dublin don't leave the house without a pocket knife.

Kess73

missgwish wrote: »

i dunno, i recently rang Henry St for a scumbag related incident and they were at the house in 10 mins to sort it out.

as with every city we have our good points and bad but all in all i think the Gardai do a brilliant job. as said earlier its 2 main groups that cause the problems but 99 times out of 100 they're killing each other. yes occasionally there is an innocent bystander but that is definetly the exception to the rule.

fair enough if i'm walking around town at night i keep a careful eye around me but i don't carry any weapons, where as a few mates in Dublin don't leave the house without a pocket knife.

I really just don't get that. Why the hell would anyone want to carry a knife going out at night?

If you pull it on someone you are either going to have to use it, or have it taken off you and used back.

I just don't buy into this "I carry a weapon to feel safe" crap.

If a person carries a weapon then they are a potential danger to themselves and others, and basically as bad as the scumbags they are claiming they need the weapon for.

bullets

Kinda getting sick of reading in Limerick Papers
about scumbags who get arrested, sent to court,
only to get off on a suspended sentence.....
to add insult to injury the papers let the public
know the scumbags in question had something like eg: 96 previous convictions.

WTF! if suspect has previous past convictions that are more
than their age in years! surely people have to wonder
what the hell are they doing still walking the streets of Limerick!

~B

Kess73

bullets wrote: »

Kinda getting sick of reading in Limerick Papers
about scumbags who get arrested, sent to court,
only to get off on a suspended sentence.....
to add insult to injury the papers let the public
know the scumbags in question had something like eg: 96 previous convictions.

WTF! if suspect has previous past convictions that are more
than their age in years! surely people have to wonder
what the hell are they doing still walking the streets of Limerick!

~B

Hehe your username made me laugh again. Last time was when I was driving on New Street and there was a big BULLITZ sprayed on a wall there.


I saw an advert for the TV3 show, and what was on a wall during the advert?

A wall with BULLITZ sprayed on it.

Insect Overlord

It doesn't help that the country's prisons are packed beyond capacity. There's just no suitable place to put the fuckers when they're convicted, so they end up walking away effectively unpunished.

krudler

An File wrote: »

It doesn't help that the country's prisons are packed beyond capacity. There's just no suitable place to put the fuckers when they're convicted, so they end up walking away effectively unpunished.

This is why my catapult idea is so sound, scumbags get punished,people get a show,everybody wins:D

bullets

Kess73 wrote: »

Hehe your username made me laugh again. Last time was when I was driving on New Street and there was a big BULLITZ sprayed on a wall there.


I saw an advert for the TV3 show, and what was on a wall during the advert?

A wall with BULLITZ sprayed on it.

Would love to know who that fecker is, The've it sprayed
all around Limerick in widely varying places, whoever it is gets around.

I must start takeing photos's of where ever I see the tag to see just how much
they get about.

I've had my Handle "Bullets" that I've used on the web since around 1997 before this
bulletz person started vandalizing places.

~B

Mc Love

Anyone know who CIRA is? Maybe its a girl called Ciara that left school early and cant spell!?

Browney7

sparkysrovers wrote: »

Anyone know who CIRA is? Maybe its a girl called Ciara that left school early and cant spell!?

Continuity IRA

Itsdacraic

Browney7 wrote: »

Continuity IRA

:eek:

Really?

Mc Love

Browney7 wrote: »

Continuity IRA

DOH

Maybe i should have included a smilie in my previous post but i didnt think anyone could be that thick

zuroph

bullitz was/possibly still IS a rap act from moyross I think. The lead guy got sent down for a few years so the group was put on hiatus AFAIK.

Insect Overlord

zuroph wrote: »

bullitz was/possibly still IS a rap act from moyross I think. The lead guy got sent down for a few years so the group was put on hiatus AFAIK.

Oh yeah, I remember reading that in one of the local papers. The graffiti was supposed to be their version of free self-advertising...

SuperWoody101

Can someone tape this for me and put it on a DVD? I would be happy to pay for it. PM me if you can help me out.

Kess73

If it is any help to you, TV3 do a catch up on their site where you can watch shows after they have been broadcast.

SuperWoody101

Kess73 wrote: »

If it is any help to you, TV3 do a catch up on their site where you can watch shows after they have been broadcast.

Thanks for the info, but I want to send it to my sister (she has no internet)

Aidric

The programme offered up nothing new. Gilligan proved once again what an utter plonker he is with his cliche ridden sound bytes. I thought Alan Hannon & Steve Collins emerged with the most decency from the programme, really empathised with the guy.

krudler

since the majority of the program used the score for The Dark Knight as its backing music, turns out we really are turning in Gotham City

bullets

As other posters mentioned......
we need a Batman.

~B

wylo

Wasnt the worst of its kind, with the exception of the Batman music (cmon now did he think we wouldnt notice?) and getting the cameras on Southill to make it look like Afghanistan.
In fairness he included some decent stuff about the gym, etc.

MacIntyre is capable of so much more though, he obviously chickened out for this one(probably rightly so).

old boy

where did they find the 2 guys with the yellow moped, pure stupid schit showing them all night,

Soulcrew09

wylo wrote: »

MacIntyre is capable of so much more though, he obviously chickened out for this one(probably rightly so).

Been going downhill for some time now. His work with the Chelsea Headhunters was great viewing, last night was just the same old ding dong that everyone knows already.

Was watching him in Washington DC last week and that was petty poor aswell. He made a big deal about being able to buy guns (in a country where its legal :rolleyes:) and the fact there was brothels and prostitutes a few blocks from the White House.

Iv been a few times and felt very safe all the time there, he painted a completly different picture though.

tinofapples

Catchup for anyone who missed it:

http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=crimecapitals

k974

you can only watch that in ireland, anyway watching it on the internet when your outside of ireland. thanks lads

topper75

Soulcrew09 wrote: »

Iv been a few times and felt very safe all the time there[Washington], he painted a completly different picture though.

Sounds like another town I know!
A lot of these places with a 'reputation' actually having a shockingly mundane day-to-day existence. I remember being taken aback on my first trip to Belfast at just how normal everything looked. The news prepares you for some kind of utter warzone.

Hard to convince outsiders that Limerick is cool. Can't blame 'em though - what else do they hear?

pappyodaniel

They are all on youtube now, in 5 parts. Here's part 1.

D-A-V-E

tinofapples wrote: »

Catchup for anyone who missed it:

http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=crimecapitals

Thats mad, the intro would scare the pants off anyone! the music totally makes it! if i didnt live in Limerick i would be totally against the place from this video and from the overhype of the media, mad to see how a documentary can make a place seem completely sh!te when its not as bad as portrayed in reality

Liam79

i cant undestarnd why anyone has a problem with this programme? It was Limerick people talking about Limerick problems, it was all real and genuine and none of it was BS told by outsiders etc.....there was nothing fake about it, and as I said, all the contributors were local....where is the problem?

bullets

Theres an article in the Leader about complaints about the show.
A mention about the clip where the scumbags pulling at the car was not actually Limerick but
Dublin.

~B

Itsdacraic

A friend of mine is after ringing me on his way to the train station and apparently there is after being war on upper william st in the past hour, a large scale disturbance and there are a number of squad cars, fire brigades etc on the scene.

Liam79

Itsdacraic wrote: »

A friend of mine is after ringing me on his way to the train station and apparently there is after being war on upper william st in the past hour, a large scale disturbance and there are a number of squad cars, fire brigades etc on the scene.

Not to worry man, i am sure the usuals will be on here saying how William St isnt City Centre, no innocents were anywhere nearby, and this happens in every town in ireland :rolleyes:

Itsdacraic

Liam79 wrote: »

Not to worry man, i am sure the usuals will be on here saying how William St isnt City Centre, no innocents were anywhere nearby, and this happens in every town in ireland :rolleyes:

I'm sure they will.

Apparently there seemed to an injured man inside the chemist and a crowd of people trying to get at him. My mate was running late for the train though and unfortunately couldn't stay around to continue his live report.

BravoMike

Itsdacraic wrote: »

A friend of mine is after ringing me on his way to the train station and apparently there is after being war on upper william st in the past hour, a large scale disturbance and there are a number of squad cars, fire brigades etc on the scene.

Someone was stabbed unfortuneately

Itsdacraic

BravoMike wrote: »

Someone was stabbed unfortuneately

How do we know it was unfortunate. Maybe he deserved it.

RonMexico

Saw a load of commotion around 3.50pm. Squad cars all over the place.


Oh and I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding Ireland Crime Capitals.

Sure there was one or two minor inaccuracies but the reality is that it could have been a LOT worse.

I see Kevin Kiely was outraged over the footage of kids jumping on the roof of a burnt out car because the footage in question was filmed in Dublin. What a plonker, I have personlly seen kids do this on numerous occasions in Limerick. Kiely must walk around Thomondgate looking at the sky. :rolleyes:

EDIT: McIntyre should have used this footage from Thomondgate to keep Kiely happy -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FzckA1mS6k