Have VW and Škoda brought prices down

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I've heard a lot of lalk but yet nothing in the media in relation to drop in prices of new cars for the above models. BMW, Audi and Volvo have slashed their prices. Someone has mentioned to me a 8-9% drop for VW and the same for Škoda.
Any idea?

Zonda999

Not confirmed yet or anything but i've heard similar things from an extremely reliable source.:)

Whats more i've heard that one of those marques may be making all its cars UK spec:D

Watch this space definitely...

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Zonda999 wrote: »

Not confirmed yet or anything but i've heard similar things from an extremely reliable source.:)

Whats more i've heard that one of those marques may be making all its cars UK spec:D

Watch this space definitely...

Thanks Zonda.

Škoda already has higher spec than it's UK equivalents. I am not sure if this is thnroughout the range but I'm confident about Octavia.

Zonda999

regedit wrote: »

Thanks Zonda.

Škoda already has higher spec than it's UK equivalents. I am not sure if this is thnroughout the range but I'm confident about Octavia.

In some areas yes but not in others. For example, if the Superb becomes UK spec, the base model will gain alloys but lose out on climate control for manual air-con. The Octavia would certainly stand to gain however, air con would be totally standard and the most common ambiente spec would get alloys. The Fabia would also be nicely specced upwards, the mid range model should get 15" alloys and aircon.

I hope this comes through because for 21k€ LIST PRICE, one would be able to get an nicely specced Octavia with the brand new 104€ road tax 1.6TDi 105bhp engine. Thats good value for money. Whats more a Superb Greenline should be about €24k which is a lot of car for the money

RedorDead

Ive heard VW is 8% on average across the range. Havent heard Skoda reductions yet. Prices have been presented to the dealer networks but havent been released to Media yet.

Green Hornet

I was at a Honda dealer during the week and the dealer said that Audi etc are going to reduce prices by about 10%. The dealer also said that Honda will be having a meeting this week in relation to doing the same. Believe it when I see it though.

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Green Hornet wrote: »

I was at a Honda dealer during the week and the dealer said that Audi etc are going to reduce prices by about 10%. The dealer also said that Honda will be having a meeting this week in relation to doing the same. Believe it when I see it though.

Audi have already brough their prices down by 9% earlier this month.

FGR

Wouldn't mind finding out about Skoda/VW discounts myself!

Zonda999

We should know more in the next week or two.

On the VW front though, they've already advertised the polo as being from €14.595 so presumably that price will stay as is

bazz26

I think this is a given.

Since Audi have reduced their prices across the board their lesser siblings now appear more expensive. Somebody who is in the market for an Octavia or Leon might now be able to stretch to a Golf. Same goes with somebody buying a Golf, they might now be able to stretch to an A3.

Those that don't adjust their prices will be left with an even smaller market share in an already very weak market.

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bazz26 wrote: »

I think this is a given.

Since Audi have reduced their prices across the board their lesser siblings now appear more expensive. Somebody who is in the market for an Octavia or Leon might now be able to stretch to a Golf. Same goes with somebody buying a Golf, they might now be able to stretch to an A3.

Those that don't adjust their prices will be left with an even smaller market share in an already very weak market.

Agree,
Škoda had a meeting of main dealers on Friday but so far, everzbody is tight-lipped. I will hopefully be ordering my Octavia tomorrow so I might find out more (and share it here)

RedorDead

regedit wrote: »

Agree,
Škoda had a meeting of main dealers on Friday but so far, everzbody is tight-lipped. I will hopefully be ordering my Octavia tomorrow so I might find out more (and share it here)

If i was you i would hold off until the official price release and make sure you defo get the new lower prices.

unkel

Saw an ad for an Octavia 1.9 diesel DSG with alloys and climate control for 21950 iirc. That spec suggests it is an elegance, which has a list price of 27160. So that's a discount of nearly 20%.

EPM

where'd you see that ad?!?

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RedorDead wrote: »

If i was you i would hold off until the official price release and make sure you defo get the new lower prices.

The dealer gave me a good price for my car (2003 Corolla Luna). i asked him about the price drop and he said that he gave me a fair price and a reduction would not have any impact on the deal. He said something like:

The thing about a price drop is that they are looking at it with an internal margin drop also, this means that it is not likely to have an impact on your trade in allowance (I have to wait for the outcome of the meeting before I know).

. Therefore I am unsure if I will get a better price for my trade in. If I were going for a straight, cash deal, things would be different.

EPM

I'd stick my own car up for sale privately based on that...

bazz26

If Skoda reduce the retail price of the Octavia I would think it will reduce the flexibility of a cash discount that a dealer can give as their margin will then be lower I'd imagine.

Swings and roundabouts.

Berty

Not necessarily Bazz.

Im sure Skoda/Others will have worked out a cheaper price of purchasing from Skoda themselves meaning the margin will be protected.

When my company reduce our pricing we only do this when we receive a lower price from the distributor thereby protecting our margin(my mortgage payment).

unkel

EPM wrote: »

where'd you see that ad?!?

In the "driving" supplement of the Sunday Times (Irish edition)

I thought it was a decent enough price, until I spotted it was DSG :eek:

(so not only do you get the lovely transmission, but the higher VRT rate was included too)!

The ad included service pricing that looked sharp too. Timing belt job on any Skoda for €495, including VAT from a main Skoda dealer. That's good value too.

anon11

I think the 1.6tdi octavia elegance is costs around 20k and only 100 euro road tax:) now thats a bargain.

Joey the lips

Hi Folks if you could share any links you have on the skoda info i would be greatful. Am a skoda driver 7 years and love the cars.

lafors

unkel wrote: »

The ad included service pricing that looked sharp too. Timing belt job on any Skoda for €495, including VAT from a main Skoda dealer. That's good value too.

Any *'s to say its not €495 on the TFSI & new CR TDI?
I think I saw €495 somewhere but not for those models??....or maybe I'm just losing it

R.O.R

Berty wrote: »

Not necessarily Bazz.

Im sure Skoda/Others will have worked out a cheaper price of purchasing from Skoda themselves meaning the margin will be protected.

When my company reduce our pricing we only do this when we receive a lower price from the distributor thereby protecting our margin(my mortgage payment).

Doesn't quite work that way with motors most of the time unfortunately

Audi margins were reduced when the price cuts were announced, I'd expect VW and Skoda to follow suit. Volvo margins were also reduced when their prices went down last week.

Hopefully a few more manufacturer's will also follow suit and kick start sales for the New Year.

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R.O.R wrote: »

Doesn't quite work that way with motors most of the time unfortunately

Audi margins were reduced when the price cuts were announced, I'd expect VW and Skoda to follow suit. Volvo margins were also reduced when their prices went down last week.

Hopefully a few more manufacturer's will also follow suit and kick start sales for the New Year.

My understanding (I stand to be corrected) is that up to now almost all major car dealers had a 11% margin. I..e if the price of a new car was 30 K, they could easily drop the price by 3000 Euro and still make a small profit.

R.O.R

regedit wrote: »

My understanding (I stand to be corrected) is that up to now almost all major car dealers had a 11% margin. I..e if the price of a new car was 30 K, they could easily drop the price by 3000 Euro and still make a small profit.

I'll correct you on this then

Some of the "volume" manufacturer's (Opel, Ford, Nissan) had / have margins in excess of 11%. BMW/Mini/Mercedes/Volvo/Honda/Audi/VW/Saab have margins much smaller than that.

EPM

unkel wrote: »

In the "driving" supplement of the Sunday Times (Irish edition)

I thought it was a decent enough price, until I spotted it was DSG :eek:

(so not only do you get the lovely transmission, but the higher VRT rate was included too)!

The ad included service pricing that looked sharp too. Timing belt job on any Skoda for €495, including VAT from a main Skoda dealer. That's good value too.

Cheers for that. The father will be interested in that me thinks. But that timing belt price isn't great. I had mine done (including tensioners and water pump) by a main dealer for 170 less than that:eek:

I'm presuming that also includes a service though...

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R.O.R wrote: »

I'll correct you on this then

Some of the "volume" manufacturer's (Opel, Ford, Nissan) had / have margins in excess of 11%. BMW/Mini/Mercedes/Volvo/Honda/Audi/VW/Saab have margins much smaller than that.

Thanks for that.
I presume Skoda would be considered a "volume" manufacturer?

R.O.R

regedit wrote: »

Thanks for that.
I presume Skoda would be considered a "volume" manufacturer?

Not to the same extent as Ford/Opel, but a bit more than Audi/VW.

If anyone is thinking of going for the 1.6 CR TDCi version, make sure to take a test drive first.

According to the brochure it has the same torque and power figures as the outgoing 1.9Tdi, but we got our first one in last week and I was very dissapointed with the performance. Engine was very quite and smooth, but there was absolutley nothing happening under 1,750rpm or over 3,000rpm. It was only a short spin up to the fuel station and back, and it did seem a bit better on the way back, but I'd hate to think what it will be like in the bigger, heavier Passat :eek:

Drummerboy08

R.O.R wrote: »

Not to the same extent as Ford/Opel, but a bit more than Audi/VW.

If anyone is thinking of going for the 1.6 CR TDCi version, make sure to take a test drive first.

According to the brochure it has the same torque and power figures as the outgoing 1.9Tdi, but we got our first one in last week and I was very dissapointed with the performance. Engine was very quite and smooth, but there was absolutley nothing happening under 1,750rpm or over 3,000rpm. It was only a short spin up to the fuel station and back, and it did seem a bit better on the way back, but I'd hate to think what it will be like in the bigger, heavier Passat :eek:

I'd imagine it will be somewhere between the 1.6D Volvo S80, and the SS Jahre Viking.

I havent driven the 1.6TDi yet, but i have heard similar reports to your's ROR. It should go down well in this coutry though. Cheaper insurance for a decent sized, diesel hatch.

.Longshanks.

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

I'd imagine it will be somewhere between the 1.6D Volvo S80, and the SS Jahre Viking.

I havent driven the 1.6TDi yet, but i have heard similar reports to your's ROR. It should go down well in this coutry though. Cheaper insurance for a decent sized, diesel hatch.

R.O.R wrote: »

Not to the same extent as Ford/Opel, but a bit more than Audi/VW.

If anyone is thinking of going for the 1.6 CR TDCi version, make sure to take a test drive first.

According to the brochure it has the same torque and power figures as the outgoing 1.9Tdi, but we got our first one in last week and I was very dissapointed with the performance. Engine was very quite and smooth, but there was absolutley nothing happening under 1,750rpm or over 3,000rpm. It was only a short spin up to the fuel station and back, and it did seem a bit better on the way back, but I'd hate to think what it will be like in the bigger, heavier Passat :eek:

.......Just wait to you see the comparisons on this site in the coming weeks between the 1.6 TDI octavia and 1.9 TDI Passat

unkel

EPM wrote: »

But that timing belt price isn't great. I had mine done (including tensioners and water pump) by a main dealer for 170 less than that:eek:

Not in Dublin though, was it?

EPM

unkel wrote: »

Not in Dublin though, was it?

Good point:D

comanche

R.O.R wrote: »

Not to the same extent as Ford/Opel, but a bit more than Audi/VW.

If anyone is thinking of going for the 1.6 CR TDCi version, make sure to take a test drive first.

According to the brochure it has the same torque and power figures as the outgoing 1.9Tdi, but we got our first one in last week and I was very dissapointed with the performance. Engine was very quite and smooth, but there was absolutley nothing happening under 1,750rpm or over 3,000rpm. It was only a short spin up to the fuel station and back, and it did seem a bit better on the way back, but I'dwill hate to think what it will be like in the bigger, heavier Passat :eek:

Have driven the 1.6 TDI Golf with DSG and I have to say I liked it, compared to the 1.6 petrol version its a much more relaxed drive - with the 1.6 petrol in DSG I found myself in semi-auto when needing to 'up the pace a little' ... haven't found myself doing this at all with the the TDI ... haven't found it lacking for pace. I think that this car will sell very well on the irish market - suits the average joe's needs very well ... hopefully a 1.4 killer!

R.O.R

comanche wrote: »

Have driven the 1.6 TDI Golf with DSG

Where? I'm under the impression that the Skoda's on the last boat in to Ireland are the first 1.6Tdi VAG cars to arrive here.

Wasn't aware it was going to come in DSG, might be able to keep it on the Turbo with the DSG.

comanche

R.O.R wrote: »

Where? I'm under the impression that the Skoda's on the last boat in to Ireland are the first 1.6Tdi VAG cars to arrive here.

Wasn't aware it was going to come in DSG, might be able to keep it on the Turbo with the DSG.

In Northern Ireland ... perhaps they are not to be available down here so. Had a look on the vw.ie website to see what the pricing down here would be and couldn't see it. Didn't look too closely though as am not in the market for one .. have to say its very nice 7 speed DSG ... perfect for the TDI

RedorDead

2 x Audi A3 1.6TDIs in Ireland that will be open for test drive next month afaik. 105HP - is that the same as the Skoda and VW versions?

R.O.R

RedorDead wrote: »

2 x Audi A3 1.6TDIs in Ireland that will be open for test drive next month afaik. 105HP - is that the same as the Skoda and VW versions?

Yep - same engine.

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The price for the new Octavia RS (Diesel) has gone down from 30.500 to 28.180 Euros. Another interesting thing is that up to now, the car came standard with Swing radio. They upgraded this to Bolero and added rear parking sensors.

Berty

regedit wrote: »

The price for the new Octavia RS (Diesel) has gone down from 30.500 to 28.180 Euros. Another interesting thing is that up to now, the car came standard with Swing radio. They upgraded this to Bolero and added rear parking sensors.

Source Please.

Im very interested in this car myself!

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Berty wrote: »

Source Please.

Im very interested in this car myself!

Just ordered it Berty. Check any dealer and they'll letyou know. Autostation in Sandyford and Phoenix Motors in Bluebell Industrial estate.

Berty

regedit wrote: »

Just ordered it Berty. Check any dealer and they'll letyou know. Autostation in Sandyford and Phoenix Motors in Bluebell Industrial estate.

Did you get your Xenons and Leather as well?

If so how much?

Also, Autostation have the blue one on Carzone saying sold(what that you?) but it said at €30,800.

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Berty wrote: »

Did you get your Xenons and Leather as well?

If so how much?

Also, Autostation have the blue one on Carzone saying sold(what that you?) but it said at €30,800.

Sent PM. The Xenons come as standard (me thinks) and yes, I got the full leather.

octyvrs

xenons are not standard.. who you deal with btw?..thinking of trading my 06 rs if i get a decent price...

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octyvrs wrote: »

xenons are not standard.. who you deal with btw?..thinking of trading my 06 rs if i get a decent price...

Autostation in Sandyford.

One thing I 'm sorry I could not afford were the dimmed rear (outside) mirrors for the car. Read great things about them but very expensive (~500 Euros)

-Chris-

A little birdie told me:

Octavia 1.6TDi
Classic €19,205
Ambiente €20,850
Elegance €22,265


Does that tally with anyone else's info?

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octyvrs wrote: »

xenons are not standard.. who you deal with btw?..thinking of trading my 06 rs if i get a decent price...

octyvrs, just checked the brochure for the vRS and the Xenons comes as standard.

Bif

-Chris- wrote: »

A little birdie told me:

Octavia 1.6TDi
Classic €19,205
Ambiente €20,850
Elegance €22,265


Does that tally with anyone else's info?

Chris,
Is this an on the road price? Any further info on specs or on VRS TDI price? Finally do you know when Skoda will go public on this?

Bif.

EPM

There's a 2010 VRS diesel listed online and mentioned here for €28,180

-Chris-

Bif wrote: »

Chris,
Is this an on the road price?

Pricing is ex. works (if it's indeed correct).

Bif wrote: »

Any further info on specs or on VRS TDI price?

No idea

Bif wrote: »

Finally do you know when Skoda will go public on this?

Bif.

Also no idea

Berty

EPM wrote: »

There's a 2010 VRS diesel listed online and mentioned here for €28,180

Harry Murphy Newport Motors Tipperary quoted me personally over the phone 3 hours ago €26,000 on the road with no trade in for a VRs Diesel.

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Berty wrote: »

Harry Murphy Newport Motors Tipperary quoted me personally over the phone 3 hours ago €26,000 on the road with no trade in for a VRs Diesel.

I think any dealer will give you 2000 off a new car if you have no trade in