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Help with buying a tailor made desktop.
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25-10-2009 10:44pm#1
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Well you will want an i5-750, an ATI 5870 and 8 GB of ram, but i would very much recomend building it yourself rather than prebuilt, but thats your choice I suppose
2k for just the tower will get you an unbelievably silly system from Dell, but will get you a OMFGHAXXMYEYESTHEYIZMELTINGAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! DIY System 0 -
i mocked this up for someone a few weeks ago and I think it's a good starting base for discussion:
now it's missing a CPU cooler. I'd normally recommend a Noctua myself, as they are a great compromise cooler between performance and noise. But i don't know if the LGA1156 mounting kit is available yet...
as for the GPU: with you're budget you'll probably want to get a 5870 instead (although personally i wouldn't bother, you're just paying a premium for DX11, i'd get a 4890 to bide me over for a year or so til DX11 matures).
as for 8GB RAM, fine if you want to. But you don't need it at all for gaming, most games are designed for 32bit systems that can't see the additional RAM anyway... i have 6GB in my machine, and i rarely ever come close to max usage unless i'm using something like MATLAB.
case is pretty much up to you, what size you want, what you like the look of. Coolermaster and Antec would be the most common brands.
btw: if anything of the above doesn't make any sense just let us know 0 -
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Four of a kind wrote: »I've a mate who's a computer wiz so he might be able to help me out if i decide to build myself.
How long would it take to assemble typically from scratch?
Less than a day. Takes me a few hours at most. The main thing is knowing what goes where. Once you know that, everything is easy 0 -
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Don't let the speed fool you. Clock for Clock, the i5 is much faster than a 2.66GHz C2Q. Also, My i5 overclocked to 4GHz 24 Hour Prime 95 Stable on a GA-P55-UD3 Mobo with a No-Brand Powersupply, you will be able to overclock it with the 1 click gigabyte software to 3.6 no problemFour of a kind wrote: »I notice with the CPU it has a 2.66Ghz speed. would It not be better to go for a 3.0Ghz speed? My concern is that it would'nt be strong enough for ARMA 2 which has a recommended CPU spec of Quad core CPU or fast dual core CPU, intel core 2.8GHz or AMD 64x2 4400+ or faster.
There are 2 Ways:What's involved with overclocking? I have no idea about this.
The Easy Software Based way: 1 Click and it does it all for you. Achieves a respectable Overclock, but not the maximum possible.
The Hard Way: Dive into the Bios, tweak Voltages, boot, crash, clear CMOS, try again, repeat, stress test, lower voltages by 1, repeat etc etc. Takes a lot more time and know how but will eek out the last few MHz. Unless you are a major enthusiast, you can stick with the easy way
Only things I don't like are the Ram and the GPU. The Ram is because I am a Kingston Fanboi, but the ram is fine otherwise. The GPU I really recommend against. It's outdated tech, you want a 5850. It might seem a bit much, but it is more than worth it, and it uses less power tooHow is the above build shaping up?
To add, since you don't need a Monitor etc, use the rest if your budget on a second Hard Drive (for Backup or Raid if you so wished) and the 5850 0 -
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Leman_Russ wrote: »Don't let the speed fool you. Clock for Clock, the i5 is much faster than a 2.66GHz C2Q. Also, My i5 overclocked to 4GHz 24 Hour Prime 95 Stable on a GA-P55-UD3 Mobo with a No-Brand Powersupply, you will be able to overclock it with the 1 click gigabyte software to 3.6 no problem
There are 2 Ways:
The Easy Software Based way: 1 Click and it does it all for you. Achives a respectable Overclock
The Hard Way: Dive into the Bios, tweak Voltages etc etc. Takes a lot more time and know how but will eek out the last few MHz. Unless you are a major enthusiast, you can stick with the easy way
Only things I don't like are the Ram and the GPU. The Ram is because I am a Kingston Fanboi, but the ram is fine otherwise. The GPU I really recommend against. It's outdated tech, you want a 5850. It might seem a bit much, but it is more than worth it, and it uses less power too
That sounds cool. So whats your view on the above? I forgot to add windows 7 for the list.0 -
Four of a kind wrote: »That sounds cool. So whats your view on the above? I forgot to add windows 7 for the list.
The above is fine
Make sure you get the 64 Bit Windows 7 though, otherwise you will not be able to use more than 3.5GB of the ram
And if your budget can take it, get 4GB more ram as well as my recommendations above.
Why? Hell, why not I say!
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2 USB ports at the front + whatevers at the back of the Motherboard.
Speaking of which, you don't need that Motherboard. Get the P55-UD3. The only difference is the UD3R has additional RAID options you don't need.
As for the Case Fans, you need to get a 120mm Fan for the Bottom slot and a 200mm Fan for the side slot. If you cannot find a 200m fan, replace the top fan with the 2x 120mm option (for a total of 3 120mm fans bought) and put the top 200mm fan on the side 0 -
Leman_Russ wrote: »2 USB ports at the front + whatevers at the back of the Motherboard.
Speaking of which, you don't need that Motherboard. Get the P55-UD3. The only difference is the UD3R has additional RAID options you don't need.
As for the Case Fans, you need to get a 120mm Fan for the Bottom slot and a 200mm Fan for the side slot. If you cannot find a 200m fan, replace the top fan with the 2x 120mm option (for a total of 3 120mm fans bought) and put the top 200mm fan on the side
would you be so kind and add a link for both the mobo and fans that you recommend?
Will there not be fans included in the case? Or are these just additional fans that you need?0 -
Four of a kind wrote: »would you be so kind and add a link for both the mobo and fans that you recommend?
Will there not be fans included in the case? Or are these just additional fans that you need?
Why Certainly old chap
There are fans in the case, but there are more slots for extra fans.
For the fans, check out QuietPC for a wide selection I recommend the Scythe Slipstream series, but that's just me.
As for the motherboard, get a UD3 or a UD4 0 -
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Lose the 5870. Get a 5850 instead €100 less for perhaps a 10% drop in real world performance. Buy 4GB of ram or moar Hard Drives with the difference.
As for the fans, what I meant was that your case has 2 Optional Fan Slots, one 120mm Slot at the Bottom and a 200mm Slot at the side. However, 200mm fans are hard to come by, and the top 200mm fan has an option to be replaced by two 120mm fans. So, I suggest getting 3 120mm Fans, Putting 1 on the bottom, 2 at the top and then using the top 200mm fan you replaced with the 120mm fans on the side 200mm slot.
As for those Fans, eh, not that impressive imo. I'd recomend this one. I have the 1900RPM one, but I am nuts and don't mind the noise (and have a fan controler). The 1200 RMP one will be more than sufficient. An 800rpm 120mm fan won't blow a decent ammount of air. 0 -
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Leman_Russ wrote: »It's outdated tech, you want a 5850. It might seem a bit much, but it is more than worth it, and it uses less power too
the 4890 is not outdated tech. It represents the current state of technology. how many DX11 games are out yet?
(btw, I'm not advising against a 58xx, but I personally wouldn't bother yet as i just dont see the point).0 -
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You should spec a solid state harddrive (ssd).. they are expensive, but up to double the speed of a normal harddisk.. boot up times, loading times, game loading times, everything is speeded up..
One will set you back about 200 euro for a good 80 gig version, but if you put your OS and arma2 on that drive it will be lightning fast load up. Then have the f3 1 tb drive as your second drive.
Sorry mate, but you've lost me there
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Yeah everything is fine. I would still rather go with a Gigabyte UD3 or UD4 Mobo and the Kingston Ram, but it's your call and what you have picked is by no means poor
Edit: Wait, that ram is no Good. Wow, that's a pretty bad labelling error I hope. The P55 Chipset is supposed to have a vDIMM of 1.5v not 1.65v. That Ram needs too much voltage.0 -
Leman_Russ wrote: »Yeah everything is fine. I would still rather go with a Gigabyte UD3 or UD4 Mobo and the Kingston Ram, but it's your call and what you have picked is by no means poor
Edit: Wait, that ram is no Good. Wow, that's a pretty bad labelling error I hope. The P55 Chipset is supposed to have a vDIMM of 1.5v not 1.65v. That Ram needs too much voltage.
What do you mean? Do i have to edit my set up again?;)0 -
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http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158711Four of a kind wrote: »[/B]
Could someone link me to the specific RAM that will also be compatable with my mobo? It's all very confusing, I just don't want to get something and for it to not work. Thanks.
This is the Ram I use and it works incredibly. I managed to get it to 6-6-6 timings at 1200Mhz but it also worked at 1600 10-10-10 Either way, the performance is just fine And it's Great Value, and Kingston are a fantastic brand.
And don't worry, It can get confusing. Basically the new LGA1156 Socket asks for Low Wattage 1.5v Ram. 0 -
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Thank you guys for all the help over the past few days. Without ye I would'nt have been able to see past my own nose in this area. I'll get to work ordering the components and then when I've it all together I'll pop up a few photo's for ye.
Once again, thanks to everyone who contributed on this thread.:D:D:D:D:D 0 -
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Four of a kind wrote: »i'm trying to register my contact number on ebuyer.com but I keep getting the "not a valid telephone number" error??
any clues?
Make one up.
Ebuyers site only works with UK Numbers, so make up a UK number :P
For the Postcode, you have to put REP 123 or REP IRE for their internal warehouse system to know you live in Ireland, and cause you are in Ireland, they contact you via email rather than phone 0 -
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Four of a kind wrote: »got number sorted...but now have "property name/number"-which I made up.
And I put in REP IRE and REP 123 but both failed.
http://static.ebuyer.com/customer/enotes2/index.html?rb=0&action=U2hvd1R5cGU=&intNoteCatID=6&intNoteTypeID=83
Property Name/Number should be your house number, like if you lived at 56 Bob Road, you'd put 56 in that field
Try REP IRE and REP 123 with and without the spaces. One of them should work. REP 123 worked for me anyway0 -
Leman_Russ wrote: »http://static.ebuyer.com/customer/enotes2/index.html?rb=0&action=U2hvd1R5cGU=&intNoteCatID=6&intNoteTypeID=83
Property Name/Number should be your house number, like if you lived at 56 Bob Road, you'd put 56 in that field
Try REP IRE and REP 123 with and without the spaces. One of them should work. REP 123 worked for me anyway
Got it sorted. Thanks Leman, that worked! 0 -
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