Flannerys offensive Halloween decoration

laydeegaga

hhhhh

Risteard

What is it?

Fighting Irish

I don't know but i'd say its fairly offensive, jesus what is the world coming to

laydeegaga

I went out last night to Flannerys (across from Smyths) and the first thing I noticed was a Halloween 'decoration' - of a skeleton with a rope around its neck HANGING from the ceiling.
I felt quite upset by it because I know indirectly of 3 people who took their own lives in this way.
I cant imagine how the families and friends of those who did this would feel seeing such a thing, blatant and crude, in their faces while out trying to pass away an hour or two of an evening.
Of the thousands of people who have committed suicide in Ireland I find this downright ignorant of the Flannery family who have been in the trade for many years and really should know better.

How about using 4 ropes and tying these to the arms and legs of the skeleton and make it appear that the skeleton is FLYING over the room???

I phoned up about an hour ago and asked for a manager. A barman answered and told me to call again at 7. I asked that he pass on my message in the meantime.

What do you guys think???
(I expect friends and followers of Flannerys to have a go and dismiss my post as trivial
but that's going to be very obvious, isn't it?)

Look - its just wrong ok. Change it.

Jumpy

I had a friend who drank himself to death too. WHY ARE THEY SELLING ALCOHOL!

Look its wrong ok, just stop.

:rolleyes:

Insect Overlord

Eh, what's going on..?

MarkR

I would imagine if you tried hard, most Halloween decorations would be offensive to someone.

• Jack O'Lantern - Offensive if you have Cucurbitophobia
• Vampires - People from transylvania have been trying to shake off the Dracula things for years
• Bats - My dog died of rabies
• Trick or treating - Some kid choked on a sweet once

Lastly, it wasn't a body, it was a skeleton. So it was already dead.

Halloween is about celebrating the gruesome and macabre.

Arathorn

Your just being over sensitive, its halloween.

ManwitaPlan

Wow, so people really will get offended by anything these days.

Lighten up ffs.:rolleyes:

The Big Red Button

Yeah I was in there the other night and I was pretty disgusted by it. If a person had lost a friend or family member in that manner, it is absolutely the last thing they'd want to see on a night out. You kind of have to see it to realise how completely inappropriate it is. Fair play to you for following up with the management in there, I'm sure yours won't be the only complaint they'll have gotten.

Risteard

What about people who have died in car crashes, should their family and friends be concealed from looking at cars?

As said, it's Halloween. I think you're looking a bit too much into it.

The Big Red Button

Arathorn wrote: »

Your just being over sensitive, its halloween.

And exactly what does halloween have to do with suicide?

The skeleton itself is pretty cool. The way they have it displayed is totally insensitive.

spadder

I'd a friend who fell off a cliff while shaggin a sheep, everytime I see an Aran Jumper....

krudler

laydeegaga wrote: »

I went out last night to Flannerys (across from Smyths) and the first thing I noticed was a Halloween 'decoration' - of a skeleton with a rope around its neck HANGING from the ceiling.
I felt quite upset by it because I know indirectly of 3 people who took their own lives in this way.
I cant imagine how the families and friends of those who did this would feel seeing such a thing, blatant and crude, in their faces while out trying to pass away an hour or two of an evening.
Of the thousands of people who have committed suicide in Ireland I find this downright ignorant of the Flannery family who have been in the trade for many years and really should know better.

How about using 4 ropes and tying these to the arms and legs of the skeleton and make it appear that the skeleton is FLYING over the room???

I phoned up about an hour ago and asked for a manager. A barman answered and told me to call again at 7. I asked that he pass on my message in the meantime.

What do you guys think???
(I expect friends and followers of Flannerys to have a go and dismiss my post as trivial
but that's going to be very obvious, isn't it?)

Look - its just wrong ok. Change it.

Dont be silly, skeletons cant fly:rolleyes:

The Saint

chatterpillar wrote: »

And exactly what does halloween have to do with suicide?

The skeleton itself is pretty cool. The way they have it displayed is totally insensitive.

Who said the skeleton committed suicide?

D4RK ONION

I believe they call this political correctness gone mad.

RonMexico

Look I can understand how somebody might get upset about this BUT I do not think there is anything inappropriate about it.

It is Halloween, there are costumes going about that will offend just about anybody.

You can buy a hat with a knife going through it so it looks as if you got stabbed in the head.

Should it be withdrawn so as not to offend victims of knife crime?

You can buy a costume that is a mammograph machine.

Should it be withdrawn so as not to offend victims of breast cancer?

I could go on and on here. In short while it may be tasteless you have to draw the line somewhere. Deal with it or stay at home for Halloween.

MarkR

The Saint wrote: »

Who said the skeleton committed suicide?

Have to get a pro on the case..

bazz26

D4RK ONION wrote: »

I believe they call this political correctness gone mad.

Exactly, probably more people take their own lives at Christmas time than any other time of the year. Are we going to ban all things Christmas now in the event it reminds or offends us?

Unfortunately this is the reality of the world we live in. Taking down a skeleton will not change that.

D4RK ONION

And what if your friend died in a freak rabbit accident, do we ban the easter bunny? Essentially you have to ask where do we stop.

laydeegaga

Risteard wrote: »

What about people who have died in car crashes, should their family and friends be concealed from looking at cars?

Cars are unavoidable.
Pubs dont display crashes for decoration.

Why should a pub display a skeleton hanging with a rope around its neck when THAT is avoidable?

RonMexico

Meh nevermind.

RonMexico

I think you are totally overreacting here OP.

Fighting Irish

laydeegaga wrote: »

I went out last night to Flannerys (across from Smyths) and the first thing I noticed was a Halloween 'decoration' - of a skeleton with a rope around its neck HANGING from the ceiling.
I felt quite upset by it because I know indirectly of 3 people who took their own lives in this way.
I cant imagine how the families and friends of those who did this would feel seeing such a thing, blatant and crude, in their faces while out trying to pass away an hour or two of an evening.
Of the thousands of people who have committed suicide in Ireland I find this downright ignorant of the Flannery family who have been in the trade for many years and really should know better.

How about using 4 ropes and tying these to the arms and legs of the skeleton and make it appear that the skeleton is FLYING over the room???

I phoned up about an hour ago and asked for a manager. A barman answered and told me to call again at 7. I asked that he pass on my message in the meantime.

What do you guys think???
(I expect friends and followers of Flannerys to have a go and dismiss my post as trivial
but that's going to be very obvious, isn't it?)

Look - its just wrong ok. Change it.

I have a friend who died in a car crash, he hit a wall. I get offended now every time i see a wall and a car.

Fighting Irish

ManwitaPlan wrote: »

Wow, so people really will get offended by anything these days.

Lighten up ffs.:rolleyes:

dawt

laydeegaga

Thanks Chatterpillar for your sincerity.

To all others - mocking is catching...

RonMexico

laydeegaga wrote: »

Cars are unavoidable.
Pubs dont display crashes for decoration.

Why should a pub display a skeleton hanging with a rope around its neck when THAT is avoidable?

Car crashes traditionally have nothing to do with Halloween.

Skeletons on the other hand have been associated with the night for a long time. I'll be willing to bet that if the skeleton had a knife through its head it wouldn't have bothered you one bit.

Yes suicude is tragic but I think the problem here is your own sensitivity to the issue. It sounds to me like you need to talk to someone about how this issue has affected you, so that you can deal with it and move on.

MarkR

Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us insincere. Where should the line be drawn in your opinion?

The Big Red Button

Hey I wouldn't consider myself to be over-PC or particularly over-sensitive in general. When I saw it, I wasn't personally offended or upset, probably because no one close to me has ever died in that way.

However I thought immediately when I saw it, imagine if you had in the past found a friend or family member hanging like that - walking into a pub and seeing it would give you an awful shock, and bring back lots of awful memories.

I know that pretty much everything is going to affect some members of society, and it's ridiculous to think you can eliminate the risk of this altogether. But I do believe a line has to be drawn somewhere.

It's not a big deal for the pub in question to simply display the skeleton in a different manner.

Why risk upsetting people (and possibly losing customers) when it's so easily avoidable?

laydeegaga

RonMexico wrote: »

Yes suicude is tragic but I think the problem here is your own sensitivity to the issue. It sounds to me like you need to talk to someone about how this issue has affected you, so that you can deal with it and move on.

I need to TALK to someone about how this issue has affected me???
Eh hold on - you dont know the first thing about me!
Do you think I went home bawling my eyes out?
But maybe I WOULD have had I had someone close to me who died by hanging.

Insect Overlord

chatterpillar wrote: »

Hey I wouldn't consider myself to be over-PC or particularly over-sensitive in general. When I saw it, I wasn't personally offended or upset, probably because no one close to me has ever died in that way.

laydeegaga wrote: »

But maybe I WOULD have had I had someone close to me who died by hanging.

See, here's the problem. So far the only complaints we know of are from people who saw the decoration, but have no direct personal experience of the issue that offends them. That is the over-sensitivity/political correctness shining through.

Why do people feel the need to protest about a problem that doesn't even affect them? Is it even really a problem?!

FruitLover

I have friends who died, and whose bodies contain skeletons. I therefore DEMAND that representations of skeletons be banned worldwide (that includes x-rays).

laydeegaga

FruitLover wrote: »

I have friends who died, and whose bodies contain skeletons. I therefore DEMAND that representations of skeletons be banned worldwide (that includes x-rays).

Oh hawdeehawhawhawhawhawhaw

fenris

I call troll!

If you don't already live under a bridge, then I suggest that you build one and get over it!

laydeegaga

An File wrote: »

See, here's the problem. So far the only complaints we know of are from people who saw the decoration, but have no direct personal experience of the issue that offends them. That is the over-sensitivity/political correctness shining through.

I think you're quite pc yourself for saying so!

Insect Overlord

laydeegaga wrote: »

I think you're quite pc yourself for saying so!

Congratulations on posting today's most ridiculous contribution to Boards.ie.

D4RK ONION

laydeegaga wrote: »

Thanks Chatterpillar for your sincerity.

To all others - mocking is catching...

So our opinions are void because it's not your opinion. Anyone who knows me knows i hate the was the world is changing into a place where everything is offensive and we must shield ourselves from anything slightly over the top.

RonMexico

laydeegaga wrote: »

I felt quite upset by it because I know indirectly of 3 people who took their own lives in this way.

laydeegaga wrote: »

I need to TALK to someone about how this issue has affected me???
Eh hold on - you dont know the first thing about me!
Do you think I went home bawling my eyes out?

By your own admission in your first post you were quite upset.Thanks however for revealing what is really going on here - more politically correct tripe. Oh and you may have edited your last post where you called me a sarcastic little ***** but it did not go unnoticed. You brought personal abuse into this when all I was doing was trying to help.

I too know people who have either tried to commit suicide or actually went through with the act - by hanging For your information. This thing in Flannerys does not bother me one bit because I have better things to do with my life than go around carping about every little thing that annoys me.

Anyway I think at this point you are just being a troll and for resorting to personal abuse you have been reported.

Photi

Did you say anything to the management of the pub in question OP?

Or did you store up your feelings of evident disgust in order to flaunt your altruistic outrage on here?

Lab_Mouse

Dont feed the fecking troll.Get some help OP


EDIT:but your posts did make me smile

laydeegaga

Photi wrote: »

Did you say anything to the management of the pub in question OP?

Or did you store up your feelings of evident disgust in order to flaunt your altruistic outrage on here?

As mentioned in my FIRST post you will see that yes in fact I DID phone them up this afternoon. 12.05 pm to be precise.

laydeegaga

Perhaps a re enactment of the lives of many an Irish worker be played out on projector in pubs this Halloween.

They could have a young man who cant get work after 5 years uni, cant go J1-ing to the States, tries Australia but returns home 8 weeks with later to join the dole queue.
Or the young married/co habiting couple, previous double incomers now facing bank repossession due to unemployment and negative equity,
child benefit being cut.
Fancy cars now in a compound and distant memories of the expensive holidays and fancy meals consumed? Christmas New York shopping rituals?
Would THAT be un offensive for all to see???

I don’t know - am I overreacting here?
I wonder how many of you find this amusing?
Your lives played out before you as you sit in a bar for a quiet drink
Those few unaffected laughing and pointing at the ‘suckers’ who borrowed it all way over their heads saying ‘what a great pub, that’s a GREAT show!’

Do you NEED to see a rope around a skeletons neck in a pub?
Do you NEED reminding of what you had and what you lost? Be it your brother, sister, child or your well-paid job?
Just cos something hasn’t affected you yet does not mean that it wont.
Suicide. A fact of life not to be ridiculed.

laydeegaga

And for the record - How many people wont go near a church because they were abused by the clergy? At least you know what is there.
You can AVOID that setting.

You go to a pub for a drink and a bit of release.
Not to see a gross display of hypothetical suicide which may have directly/indirectly affected you or those close to you.

Insect Overlord

laydeegaga wrote: »

I don’t know - am I overreacting here?

Most definitely, yes.

laydeegaga wrote: »

I wonder how many of you find this amusing?

None of us finds the idea of suicide amusing. What is somewhat funny is your increasingly desperate effort to convince us of something, against the back-drop of your absolute refusal to take our points of view into account.

laydeegaga wrote: »

Do you NEED to see a rope around a skeletons neck in a pub?
Do you NEED reminding of what you had and what you lost? Be it your brother, sister, child or your well-paid job?

How exactly does a toy skeleton on a piece of string remind you of a lost job?! Are you afraid of upsetting an out-of-work Halloween decorator?! Obviously not, I know...

laydeegaga wrote: »

Just cos something hasn’t affected you yet does not mean that it wont.
Suicide. A fact of life not to be ridiculed.

Once again, nobody here is ridiculing suicide. What is ridiculous, however, is your complete over-reaction to what essentially is a bit of plastic on the ceiling of one pub in one town in one small country.

Photi

laydeegaga wrote: »

As mentioned in my FIRST post you will see that yes in fact I DID phone them up this afternoon. 12.05 pm to be precise.

Which you seem to have edited. Right.

RonMexico

At this point, having entertained your ridiculous hysterical nonsense all I have to add is this.

source

Op no offence or anything, but it's people like you that have the world ruined, people who go out and get offended on behalf of others, when they have no direct involvement with the scenario, nor do they have any idea what the feelings of people who have been through this situation are.

People need to stop getting offended on behalf of others.

laydeegaga

An File wrote: »

How exactly does a toy skeleton on a piece of string remind you of a lost job?! Are you afraid of upsetting an out-of-work Halloween decorator?! Obviously not, I know...
.

What I said was 'how would people like to visit a pub that displays images of an upsetting situation they have experienced'.

Hanging skeleton = reminder of a loved one who died by hanging.

Play enacted of many an Irish worker who've lost the house/car/relationship due to redundancy = reminder of their new and distressing circumstance.
Would y'all like Mike Finn to produce one and have it on show in your local???

krudler

laydeegaga wrote: »

What I said was 'how would people like to visit a pub that displays images of an upsetting situation they have experienced'.

Hanging skeleton = reminder of a loved one who died by hanging.

Play enacted of many an Irish worker who've lost the house/car/relationship due to redundancy = reminder of their new and distressing circumstance.
Would y'all like Mike Finn to produce one and have it on show in your local???

for the love of god dont watch the news then if being reminded we're in a recession would distress you, wait, we should ban the news! that reminds people of death, war, abortion, suicide, murder and the x-factor every night! people could be offended and distressed!

I call troll shenanigans on this thread, or misguided pc crusader, although I'm not sure which is worse

RonMexico

laydeegaga wrote: »

Play enacted of many an Irish worker who've lost the house/car/relationship due to redundancy = reminder of their new and distressing circumstance.
Would y'all like Mike Finn to produce one and have it on show in your local???

Thats not a bad idea, I might have a word with him about it. I know a fair few unemployed actors that could do with a job.

Theatre in the pub - a different social issue tackled every week. €10 on the door and a voucher for a free drink.

mikom

laydeegaga your username brings back memories of the time my little sister stuck her finger in my eye and I was forced to wear a patch for a week.
An upsetting situation I have experienced that you remind me of.
Look - its just wrong ok. Change it.