genuine irish toyota corolla twincams (ae86)????????????

stapes21

wel guys ive been meaning to post this agessssss ago but has anybody seen an original irish sold and registered corolla twincam rear wheel drive (ae86) ive known 1 or 2 people who have had them years ago but said they wer rust buckets is it true that between 83-87 that only 50 twincam corolla's were sold in ireland new??

is there anybody out there driving one or know anybody who is?? or anyone have a taxbook for one? any help gladly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!

carchaeologist

stapes21 wrote: »

Is this one a reshell?I seem to remember someone saying that it is.

anyone have a taxbook for one?

Why so...?Then the imported car isnt a genuine irish car.So whats the point.Not cool.
There is a list of cars and Reg numbers,but i didnt compile it,so its not mine to give out,im sure the guy who originally did it up will PM you if he wants to disclose it as he posts on here.

Seth Brundle

stapes21 wrote: »

is there anybody out there driving one or know anybody who is?? or anyone have a taxbook for one? any help gladly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please note that any references to other owners will be deleted.
As for someone offering copies of their tax book to an unknown internet user, well you'd have to be mad!

Blue850

48 original Irish reg twin cams I believe is the number, saw a silver one at the durrow show 2 years ago, parked in the public carpark reg KZG 16

stapes21

cheers guys

carchaeologist

Blue850 wrote: »

48 original Irish reg twin cams I believe is the number

Think its slightly less,and very very few genuine cars left,as is typical in ireland,nothing seems to last over 20 years.
A friend of mine had an irish one some years back,and that one was crashed by the guy he sold it to.:(Twas a clean car too.
There was 40ish sold here new,how many are in the country now,they are everywhere.

carchaeologist

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carchaeologist

Not sure if these will link..but howsever.

Tomebagel

Not sure what the story is with these 2 but they were posted in the abandoned classic thread.

Here and Here.

their both uk/irish spec anyway so not jap imports.

Tomebagel

doesnt bother me,look at the condition he keeps his car in(if its his).

the way i look at it is better then some oul lad who doesnt give a damn about it

macautos

Supposedly 48 irish ae86's sold back in the day alright .
Some dead and buried and others have been restored or are being currently restored.
Many many of them rally cars now also .

@Lightning .
Thats isnt the owner of that '84 Gold . He is in the pic alright but is not the lad with the gold chain bling blinging around . That was taken at Mosney this year .

DanFindy

I know of 2 orig irish cams in Donegal anyway, 1 is gold IH reg in a shed bein restored....quite rotten and another i cant remember the reg but its blue and was on the road untill recently but is also very rotten...
I like the ae86 lads that keep there cars v well and respect them but its the dickheads that thrash them round junctions at rallies that rag me as they have spoilt rallying and motorsport in general and given proper ae86 owners/drivers a bad name.
I mean the whole 'diffin' scene, how do you get so much satisfaction from burstin your car goin round and round and round and round in circles???? I fail to understand and ive had more sierras than any a them but never welded a diff in 1. I remember about 8 or 9 yrs ago i bought a 318is bmw with a welded diff for cheap to see for myself what the fuss was about, sold it after a fortnight how bloody boring round and round and round, for variety lets try break the diff by dumping the clutch trying to change direction and wow lets do a figure 8 again pulling the car apart, My wee cousin was 14 at the time and he could diff away at the BMW in our yard........i mean how difficult or skillfull is it??......not very. the highlight of the thing for most is 'takin er tight round the cone' i mean really for f**k sake.

Driftin is marginally better and some lads are **** hot at it, it requires a bit of speed and to be fair a lot of skill take Declan Munnelly in the Kawasaki green mk2 escort feckin legend driver and is much more entertaining to watch than getting dizzy lookin at some skinhead numpty with a gold chain and an earing diffin a sierra in 1st gear on the limiter untill the tyres blow out........and the retards in the crowd cheer madly, i mean come on:mad:

ji

Your dead right dan:D

RE.irish twin cam i remember a burgandy one around newcastlewest years ago reg; si ????..

macautos

DanFindy wrote: »

I like the ae86 lads that keep there cars v well and respect them but its the dickheads that thrash them round junctions at rallies that rag me as they have spoilt rallying and motorsport in general and given proper ae86 owners/drivers a bad name.
I mean the whole 'diffin' scene, how do you get so much satisfaction from burstin your car goin round and round and round and round in circles????

Agree with you here Dan

macautos

ji wrote: »

RE.irish twin cam i remember a burgandy one around newcastlewest years ago reg; si ????..

You sure it was SI . Would it have been SI-7037 by any chance .
thanks

tomsprint

Hi all, been lurking on this forum for quite a while but seeing this post made me want to reply.

9130IH belonged to a friend of mine many moons ago, I repaired the heater in it (dash out, resoldered pipes, pig of a job). Bodywise it was ok but it had a pretty poor respray done. It looks a lot nicer now!

Previous to that the same mate owned another irish GT, KZV600, light metallic blue.

There was also
900ZY, dark metallic blue
925ZY white
MZV16, dark metallic blue
****AI , light metallic blue
XZY*** ,Gold

All of these were earlier, pre-facelift type and all around the Dundalk area back in the day!

Needless to say there were numerous Northern and English ones about too.

Cheers

Tom

ji

macautos wrote: »

You sure it was SI . Would it have been SI-7037 by any chance .
thanks

Ya was SI cant remember the rest of the reg but def SI ????
Burgandy black and silver plates.
I'd say 1993-94ish..

DanFindy

I forgot totally that a mate a mine is actualy rallyin an Irish one DZV 7**
And i think 9130 IH was owned by a lad from Glenties Donegal a few moons ago when it was near new !!

stapes21

cheers guys for all the info!!!!!! its a great help im tryin to locate a irish cam near cloghan co. offlay a lad had one years ago and mite track it down if not scrapped/buried

Tomebagel

Dont mean to bump this thread up 2 months but found this:


Beaut!

sc86

stapes21 wrote: »

wel guys ive been meaning to post this agessssss ago but has anybody seen an original irish sold and registered corolla twincam rear wheel drive (ae86) ive known 1 or 2 people who have had them years ago but said they wer rust buckets is it true that between 83-87 that only 50 twincam corolla's were sold in ireland new??

is there anybody out there driving one or know anybody who is?? or anyone have a taxbook for one? any help gladly appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!

i took that pic, the owner is in his 30s so not some 17 year old in a baseball cap:D

any1 else got any old irish regs??
48 originally sold in the south

Tomebagel

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc243/ae86girl/Image024_edited.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/mouwt/101_1554.jpg

Defo a reshell:eek:

carchaeologist

Tomebagel wrote: »

Defo a reshell:eek:

Yep,depends on your definition of a reshell though id guess.

stezie

Tomebagel wrote: »

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc243/ae86girl/Image024_edited.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/mouwt/101_1554.jpg

Defo a reshell:eek:

Can I ask how a re shell is done seeing that the registration is carried over? I thought that Irish registration numbers can not be transferred from one chassis number to another?

So if it was re shelled, that means new chassis number and a different reg number?

Bitten & Hisses

For the person looking for reg's of Irish Twin Cams, 8388ZX was a silver one. Apparently it was rolled in the early 1990's and I haven't a clue what happened it after that.

mongey11

Didnt mean to bump up an old thread..but heres all the info yous need.



1. 774-NZK.......Light blue 8a8 (in Macroom being restored) Mar-May '85 Cork county
2. TZG-500........RallyCar (Gold in Meath)Still on the stages Feb-Mar '84 Dublin city
3. 444-OZK.......Wrote off (Originally S/O/B ) Sold in Cork May-Jun '85 Cork county
4. IIF-111.........Wrote off, reshelled, wrote off again! S/O/B Possible reg transfer1958 Cork county 1985
5. 266-MZK.......Green (Parked up ,Originally S/O/B) Feb-Mar '85 Cork county
6. 144-LZK........RallyCar Yellow(Giles) Still battling stages Jan-Feb '83 Cork county
7. SI-7037........Was red/black (now a white rally car) Still rallying Mar '85 Dublin city
8. HZS-16........Rally car (Treacy)(White with orange bumpers) Jul-Aug '84 Dublin city
9. 9130-IH........Gold . Put back on road by Cloko '08 Early'85 Donegal
10. MZS-400.....Burned out (Red/Black) Scrapped '97ish Oct '84 Dublin city 8 owners
11. OZV-123.....Wrote off (light pink) Aug '85 Dublin city
12. Removed (664-GZU)
13. KZG-16.......Silver '83 . Seen at vintage meet '08 Nov '83 Dublin 10 owners
14. NZS-777.....Gold '84 in Navan area (Restored???) Nov '84 Dublin 8 owners
15. UZS-161.....Good cond. IN Carlow (white) Originally GOLD Late '84 Dublin 8 owners
16. MZV-16......Rally car Blue (McKenna) July '85 Dublin
17. VZS-329.....Rally car Silver+Blue (Heney) Originally silver Feb '85 Dublin 8 owners
18. CZS-436.....Rally car (In storage) White May '84 Dublin 5 owners
19. RZ?-900......???Red (wrote off by a bus)?? Full reg needed
20. VZS-770......In Cork (Originally '85 S/O/B painted R/O/B + broken) Feb '85 Dublin 6 owners
21. 900-ZY.......'84 R/O/B originally. Wrote off .Was r/o/b, white, blue and burgundy '85 Louth 9 owners
22. 321-UIE ......Rallycar .Sold to Kevin Kelleher.Crashed and running gear put in a mk2 Jun '85-Jan '86 Clare 8 owners
23. DZV-743......Rallycar McHugh Donegal S/O/B originally Apr '85 Dublin
24. SZG-2.........Rallycar green .Now white with green bumpers @Cork20 2008 Feb '84 Dublin
25. 143-AIN......Rallycar (John Culleton)??? Jan ‘86 Kerry
26. 459-KZK......Sold out of Macroom Motors possibly S/O/B Oct '84-Jan '85 Cork city
27. 909-ZPI.......8a8 Blue originally from Midleton (Wrote off) May '85-Aug '85 Cork county
28. DZS-402......S/O/B originally .Painted all silver at some stage May '84-Jun '84 Dublin
29. 925-ZY........White. Possibly stolen 10+ years ago Sep '85-Dec '86 Louth
30. PIX-22.........R/O/B sold out of McNally's Longford .Scrapped late 90's '86 Longford
31. EI-***........?? Restored. In Donegal . 84spec R/O/B Full reg needed . Sligo
32. DZS-523......Original Gold .Rallied by Moffett in the late 80's May '84-Jun '84 Dublin
33. KZV-600......Originally Blue .Owner also had 9130-IH at one stage Jun '85
34. ZT-99........ Possibly S/O/B originally .Then white
35. 60-GZK........Blue??? ,scrapped . Mar '84
36. XZY-198.......Gold . Louth car Late '84
37. 5458-ZX........Original light green 1983 could possibly be an SR te71 ????
38. 2145 ZP........S/O/G, bought new in Donegal.. 1986
39. 8388-ZX.......Silver 1985 / 3 owners/Tax expiry Dec'97
40. 3605-BI........Monaghan Reg .Silver and currently being restored 1984 / 4 owners /Tax expiry Jan'96
41. 72-TPI.........Silver painted yellow .Sold to Shane Lynch (boyzone) Crashed it into a tree 1983 /5 owners/Tax expiry Jan'00
42. WZS-832...... Original 8a8 Light Blue .Currently being restored Mar '85 /5 owners/Tax expiry Oct'03

Max_Damage

^ Where did you get such information?

Tomebagel

Max_Damage wrote: »

^ Where did you get such information?

Irish ae86 owners club website;)

carchaeologist

Max_Damage wrote: »

^ Where did you get such information?

Hmm..wonder who worked out all the reg dates..though theres some extra ones in there since..;)

_Conrad_

sad to think that most of them seem to have ben written off/stolen/burned, and the last few are rally cars, suppose that's a good way for them to end their days but it'd be nice to see the odd one actually driving on the road.

I'd imagine some of those reg's may still be alive but the original car long gone

VolvoMan

carchaeologist wrote: »

Hmm..wonder who worked out all the reg dates..though theres some extra ones in there since..;)

There must be another rival 'carchaeologist' doing the rounds on other forums.:D

carchaeologist

VolvoMan wrote: »

There must be another rival 'carchaeologist' doing the rounds on other forums.:D

No,its the same carchy..;)


1. 774-NZK.......Light blue 8a8 (in Macroom being restored) Mar-May '85 Cork county
2. TZG-500........RallyCar (Gold in Meath)Still on the stages Feb-Mar '84 Dublin cit
5. 266-MZK.......Green (Parked up ,Originally S/O/B) Feb-Mar '85 Cork county
6. 144-LZK........RallyCar Yellow(Giles) Still battling stages Jan-Feb '83 Cork county
7. SI-7037........Was red/black (now a white rally car) Still rallying Mar '85 Dublin city
8. HZS-16........Rally car (Treacy)(White with orange bumpers) Jul-Aug '84 Dublin city
13. KZG-16.......Silver '83 . Seen at vintage meet '08 Nov '83 Dublin 10 owners
14. NZS-777.....Gold '84 in Navan area (Restored???) Nov '84 Dublin 8 owners
15. UZS-161.....Good cond. IN Carlow (white) Originally GOLD Late '84 Dublin 8 owners
16. MZV-16......Rally car Blue (McKenna) July '85 Dublin
17. VZS-329.....Rally car Silver+Blue (Heney) Originally silver Feb '85 Dublin 8 owners
18. CZS-436.....Rally car (In storage) White May '84 Dublin 5 owners
23. DZV-743......Rallycar McHugh Donegal S/O/B originally Apr '85 Dublin
24. SZG-2.........Rallycar green .Now white with green bumpers @Cork20 2008 Feb '84 Dublin
25. 143-AIN......Rallycar (John Culleton)??? Jan ‘86 Kerry
28. DZS-402......S/O/B originally .Painted all silver at some stage May '84-Jun '84 Dublin
29. 925-ZY........White. Possibly stolen 10+ years ago Sep '85-Dec '86 Louth
31. EI-***........?? Restored. In Donegal . 84spec R/O/B Full reg needed . Sligo
32. DZS-523......Original Gold .Rallied by Moffett in the late 80's May '84-Jun '84 Dublin
33. KZV-600......Originally Blue .Owner also had 9130-IH at one stage Jun '85
34. ZT-99........ Possibly S/O/B originally .Then white
36. XZY-198.......Gold . Louth car Late '84
37. 5458-ZX........Original light green 1983 could possibly be an SR te71 ????
38. 2145 ZP........S/O/G, bought new in Donegal.. 1986
40. 3605-BI........Monaghan Reg .Silver and currently being restored 1984 / 4 owners /Tax expiry Jan'96
42. WZS-832...... Original 8a8 Light Blue .Currently being restored Mar '85 /5 owners/Tax expiry Oct'03

Looks like this is all the cars left so? Though with rally cars you can never be sure whats what,and most of them seem to have ended up that way sadly. At least a few are being restored.

Max_Damage

How did you find out about all the regs?

carchaeologist

Max_Damage wrote: »

How did you find out about all the regs?

I didnt,i just dated them. Seems theres two types of twin cam enthusiasts,the guys that want to go diffin',and the real enthusiasts that want to see cars back to their original state. The lad who worked out that list is one of the latter.

Tomebagel

7750 ai is another one discovered yesterday,anyone know anything?

it was blue in colour

VolvoMan

carchaeologist wrote: »

28. DZS-402......S/O/B originally .Painted all silver at some stage May '84-Jun '84 Dublin

What do the likes of S/O/B and S/O/G stand for?

Tomebagel

VolvoMan wrote: »

What do the likes of S/O/B and S/O/G stand for?

Silver over black,silver over graphite - the colours they came in;)

carchaeologist

Tomebagel wrote: »

7750 ai is another one discovered yesterday,anyone know anything?

it was blue in colour

Has it been scrapped?

Tomebagel

carchaeologist wrote: »

Has it been scrapped?

Could of been,its reg was found stamped on a quarter glass in someones shed

carchaeologist

Tomebagel wrote: »

Could of been,its reg was found stamped on a quarter glass in someones shed

More than likely so. Friend of mine had 459KZK back in the late 90s,lovely car it was too. It was sold and meant to have hit a tree soon after. Its listed as possibly S/O/B.but iirc when i saw it it was all metallic blue.

tomsprint

7750AI - couldn't remember the numbers, light blue metallic, on superlites.
An absolute minter - owned apparantly by someone connected to McCabes Toyota garage in Ardee as far as I remember. My mate was driving KZV600 at the time which was the same colour and on the same wheels but a lot rougher!

That car (7750AI) was a really clean car but I heard it didn't last much longer, written off I think:(

I'd say around '94 or '95

Cheers
Tom

greendragon3

a mate of mine bought DZS 402 off a garage man in lietrim many many moons ago and she was a minter back then , silver over black pre facelift model , the guy brought us for a test drive in it that night and i thought it was a mental yoke to go back then , my mate kept it for a while then sold it on , must find out where and ask him for a photo !

RichyX

carchaeologist wrote: »

1. 774-NZK.......Light blue 8a8 (in Macroom being restored) Mar-May '85 Cork county

Interesting, that's my hometown so wonder if I know the owner.
There are quite a few AE86s around those parts. Many driven by your standard imbecile.
I seem to remember back in the day there were a couple with old Irish regs. Possibly a gold one, it's been a long time.

macautos

VolvoMan wrote: »

There must be another rival 'carchaeologist' doing the rounds on other forums.:D

There can only be one 'carchaeologist' .:D

Good to see this getting a bit of interest .
I compiled the above list over the last while . With help from a lot of good lads and Mr.Carchaeologist off here on the reg date side of things .
Lads mainly off ae86irl which i am a former administrator of .

Sure we all know the stereotype and tis easy hate . But i for one am far from a spotty baseball cap wearing teenager out to blacken crossroads .
I know plenty lads that are genuine proper enthusiasts of the model and despise messing and pricking on the roads .

Great to see the old irish cars about . A lot were built up as rallycars in the 90's as the early model '84/'85 was not as sought after as the preferred facelift '86/'87 car .

One large hurdle in compiling the list is, the proper day1 1987 'irish' cars cant really be identified with the newer style reg's introduced . The old irish reg twincams are obvious but im sure there must be original '87 ae86's out there sold out of irish dealers from new .
The hunt goes on ...........;)

carchaeologist

macautos wrote: »

One large hurdle in compiling the list is, the proper day1 1987 'irish' cars cant really be identified with the newer style reg's introduced . The old irish reg twincams are obvious but im sure there must be original '87 ae86's out there sold out of irish dealers from new .
The hunt goes on ...........;)

If you have any possible regs, most lads on here would have rough idea how many cars were reg'd in 1987 in their respective counties. For instance in Kerry there were approx 2000 cars sold before 1988. Iv heard tell of a 1989 registered AE?

Bitten & Hisses

mongey11 wrote: »

39. 8388-ZX.......Silver 1985 / 3 owners/Tax expiry Dec'97

Interesting. She was rolled sometime before the end of 1994 by owner no.2. I'd love to know what happened her after that. It would have been an exceptionally tidy original car before this happened.
143-AIN is another interesting one. She's a yellow rally car which I have seen out on the stages for years since the early 1990's, but is shown as a diesel Lancer on Cartell

carchaeologist

Interesting because they are local cars B+H? Dunno why it would be a lancer though.

Blue850

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1570904

Slidey

carchaeologist wrote: »

If you have any possible regs, most lads on here would have rough idea how many cars were reg'd in 1987 in their respective counties. For instance in Kerry there were approx 2000 cars sold before 1988. Iv heard tell of a 1989 registered AE?

About 2 months ago I met a 1990 reg one in Stranorlar. He was heading up through the top after going through a checkpoint.

Me thinks there was some messing going on there!

My mate had a really clean one but sold it on. I had the pleasure of driving it on a good few occasions. They were, IMO, way ahead of their time but the bump in the floor annoys my left leg when on long journeys

stapes

cheers for all the info guys ive a 02 civic type-R and id nearly swop her for that white irish cam on donedeal!! id bring her back to a road car tho

stapes

i got chatting a young guy round 19-20/21 near mountbellew area last year at a mates wedding in athlone he remebers his dad scrapping 2 irish reg twincams?????? a red over black and a white one he said!!! pity i forget his name and didnt get his number twud be nice to get hold of the taxbooks i even asked few mates at the wedding and they dont recall him he was related to the girl getting married he told me he was a mecahnic he had a corolla hatchback and a subaru sti he asid his dad had a ta60 rwd carina and crashed it!!

a mate of mine also tells me he racalls a guy near cloghan co. offaly having a irish twinner years ago