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Pdc offer to buy out Bdo

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  • Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭padr81


    The more i read this the more I agree with Hearn and think the BDO should sell up. One thing though is that the amature game would be much fairer and lakeside would be more fairly balanced to suit all countries which is nice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭death1234567


    It makes sense to have one Darts organisation that looks after the pro's and the amateurs. Its not a big enough sport for two world championships. The BDO should sell up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 DrDarts


    I cannot ever see an amalgamation of the 2. The PDC simply run Pro Events one at a time and larger events for TV with the help mainly of Sky. They have no real infrastructure apart from that to speak of and wouldn't Have any idea what it takes to either run or arrange an event that wasn't simply profit driven with the rewards for mainly the same chosen few. If they had any interest otherwise they've had almost 20 yrs to try and put something back into the grass roots of darts from whence they came but as there wasn't any profit in it for them they never bothered. It would probably be better for darts if instead the BDO could counter offer the PDC bid "but of course they ca't afford it" as they have already not only run the amateur game with the help of many hundreds if not thousands of non paid officials throughput the UK and the world but have also ran the longest major events in darts The Embassy and Masters. If they had just a bit more vision and elected a new board with the vision to promote the PRO game a bit more there wouldn't even be any need for the PDC as they would have the full package inc terrestrial TV on board.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭dionsiseire


    Thats not correct Dr. Darts, the PDC run events all over the world as player championships which have about 100 people entering at about 100 quid an entry, thats about 10k

    6k winner, 3k runner up, and as you go back down the line money goes

    2 x 1,500
    4 x 800
    8 x 400
    16 x 300
    32 x 200
    6+3+3+3.2+3.2+4.8+6.4

    Means that each professional players championship they might have 128 players around, with 100 quid each giving 12,800 in the kitty

    they then proceeed to payout 29,600 at every players championship

    So the PDC clearly run things at a loss to themselves, but they are such a marketing and advertising genius team that they make soo much money on the TV and sponsors that they can cover HUGE pay checks for TV tournaments, cover the losses of the players championships, and refs, markers, MC's Stage and equipment and still have 3m in the bank to make offers to buy the likes of the BDO

    and if the BDO were to "counter offer" to buy the PDC we would have inept management, bland atmospheres, very few tournaments on tv and darts would be dying on its ass.

    the PDC is the organisation to do what the BDO should been doing, not the other way around, Barry hearne doesnt want to change the whole setup, he just wants to make the BDO a progressive entity instead of a backwards entity it currently is.

    At County Level the BDO might work well, but because its inept higher up it cant provide the level of financial assistance to each county board that it potentially could, you have all the top players flocking from the BDO once they reach a standard in the BDO they jump to play with the big boys for big money. Their World Championship is effectively null and void, because nobody regards Ted Hankey as a world champion when there's 64 players in the PDC who would sweep him aside over 7 sets

    For the sake of darts and to restore some pride in the BDO's items it would be best to let the PDC run the professional game and let the BDO run the Amateur scene where it has all its competitions and more for an Amatuer tour for the good but not great players.

    As barry hearne keeps saying, he's modelling it on the golf system, and with the professional game requiring getting a professional card from the school and if you think about it, the BDO would effectively be in control of the school because they run the amateur side of things, so instead of people abandoning the BDO it would be progressing from the BDO Amateur Tour under BDO controlled situations to progress to the PDC Professional Tour.

    County Boards will have more money to keep people interested in darts, the BDO will be managed more efficiently with PDCs men involved, Sponsorships and Prize money will increase, and the PDc's success will help ensure that the money is there to help the county boards for years to come.

    It makes soooo much sense its rediculous


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Great post Dion


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 assante


    Brillant post Dion,


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭dionsiseire


    cheers lads, its very easy to sit here and say PDC, ruining darts with money grabbing ways

    but they simply arnt, they are making it a commercial and sporting success, much like what sky sports did to football.

    We are only starting to reap the rewards of this now and having olly croft and his boys sit there and flat refuse an offer that makes business sense is what will eventually ruin darts


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,952 ✭✭✭Degag


    Good post but i have to disagree on one point...
    nobody regards Ted Hankey as a world champion when there's 64 players in the PDC who would sweep him aside over 7 sets

    There are a handful of players in the BDO who would make it into the top 20 in the PDC let alone the top 64 with relative ease IMO. Players such as Hankey, O'Shea, Fitton and Adams. When you think that Mervyn King and Gary Anderson are doing so well in the PDC and did not win a Bdo World Title would give at least some credit to Hankey that he could do quite well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭dionsiseire


    i have to disagree wit Hankey and Adams, dont think they have the bottle under a 100 average kind of pressure

    O'Shea and Fitton, i think could potentially do well in the PDC


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,952 ✭✭✭Degag


    i have to disagree wit Hankey and Adams, dont think they have the bottle under a 100 average kind of pressure

    O'Shea and Fitton, i think could potentially do well in the PDC

    Hmmm, bottle would be their problem alright. Hankey had about 2 dozen darts to win the Worlds last year before he finally clinched it. Adams has 6 sets to 0 up against Phil Nixon and only won it 7-6 if memory serves. Saying that i've no doubt in saying that they'd break into at least the top 32.

    No point in really talking aout it though. Fitton is the only one who would ever consider switching...


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