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N52 - Tullamore Bypass

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  • 19-10-2009 1:11pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭


    Is there a thread on this (search is not working)? If not, anyone have any info/pics? it's due to open Friday I believe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    murphaph wrote: »
    Is there a thread on this (search is not working)? If not, anyone have any info/pics? it's due to open Friday I believe.

    There's a thread in the Offaly forum here. It's already been infiltrated by myself and Wild Bill. ;)

    Website here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭Tech3


    Furet wrote: »
    There's a thread in the Offaly forum here. It's already been infiltrated by myself and Wild Bill. ;)

    I saw that alright, I asked for a few photos a few pages back further. I have to admit I dont have any photos uploaded to the Castleisland bypass thread yet either which needs to be soon as it's months in since it started.

    Anyone got a map of the scheme. It's WS2 right?

    Edit: Just looked at the brochure and it's WS2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Newsletter here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭nordydan


    Recent photos here, and more here

    I'll be heading back to Dublin from Roscommon on Friday, I might pop in and have a look.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,761 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The 'forgotten bypass' on here it seems. Last ever WS2 scheme all going to plan - although I think bog-standard S2 and bog-standard S2 with climbing lanes still feature a bit?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Tullamore is an awful bottlekneck. Good to see it go, will make crossing the Midlands that bit easier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭D'Peoples Voice


    tech2 wrote: »
    It's WS2 right?

    Edit: Just looked at the brochure and it's WS2
    you better believe it, they only believe in the best in Offaly, two motorways in the M6 and the M7, and now a top-notch bypass.
    Offaly is open for business;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    I hope that the N80 between Tullamore and Portlaoise is upgraded soon, to include bypasses of Mountmellick and Portlaoise.

    That would create a high-quality route from Cork to Athlone via the M8/M7/N80/N52/M6.

    Improvements to the N77 from Kilkenny to Durrow, with an extension to join the M8, would create a high-quality route from Waterford and Kilkenny to Athlone.

    Not only would this provide valuable high-quality road links between the south-west, the south-east and the midlands, it would also make the most of the new motorways.


  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭medoc


    This is my first time to try to post pictures so hope they work.

    The road is indeed to open on Friday by Brian Cowen. The road is Single Carriage way with seven roundabouts on its length There was a lot of work going on today. I was unable to drive on some of the sections as there was works in the way and 89 OY Micra looked out of place with all the Northern Reg Fords, Toyotas and Jeeps. The sections with the rail,river and canal bridges were inaccessable. The old N52 will be renumbered the R421 from the Kinnity road roundabout to the junction with the N52 at the Kilbeggan end. The old N80 from the Portlaoise roundabout will be the R443 i.e. the number of the Western Relief road. The N80 link will not be ready to open on Friday and will be a couple of months. Here are 4 photos I have more and will put them up when I get time.


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    The Junction with the old N52 (will now be R421), the Western Relief Road now R443 (probably be the N80) and the N80 link to the Bypass


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    TYrells Road passing under the Bypass with the New private hospital site just before

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    Looking North with Mucklagh Roundabout in the distance.

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    Looking South in the Birr Direction from the same Screggan road overbridge with the Tie in to the old N52 in the distance


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Is that S2 or WS2? What is the carriageway cross section? Great pics by the way but can't help feel this should have been 2+2 for the sake of the barrier and a little bit more cross section. When you go to all the trouble of doing the cuttings and building the over/underbridges it really makes no sense to go with S2 instead of 2+2.

    The alignments look nice but being a fast S2 road you can be certain it'll see its fair share of head on's.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I wonder if the Tullamore bypass is future proofed, so that at a later date it can be widened to D2? From some of those photos, it seems like there's a side cutting with extra space at the sides of the road.

    I also think D2+2 would have been a better, safer configuration for the bypass. I had thought that it was originally supposed to be a D2 at any rate and was scaled back?


  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭medoc


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    Kinnitty road roundabout in distance with Bypass continuing straight ahead. This section of N52 is also marked R421 in brackets.



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    Short improved section of N52 from Kilbeggan with tie in to bypass in distance. The R421 (old N52) into Tullamore joins at a T junction here on the right which is signed Ardan. Tullamore is signed straight ahead here. Tullamore North and Tullamore South appears on signs along the bypass depending on location.



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    The above mentioned junction from the Tullamore direction



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    The Ballinagar roundabout coming out from Tullamore. The sign approaching from Ballinagar shows Tullamore North to the right, Tullamore South to the left and Town centre straight ahead.


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    The T junction of the altered old N52 with the bypass right and Birr left


  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭medoc


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    Online upgrade of the existing N52 between Mucklagh roundabout and Charleville roundabout driving in the Tullamore direction.


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    Same section nearer the roundabout. The town is signed as Tullamore South R421 straight ahead and Tullamore North and Mullingar N52 (R421) are signed right. One problem is the fact there is no mention of Kinnitty here, the old R421 coming out of town is closed now with traffic now proceeding through this r/b and on to the Kinnitty road r/b where the R421 leaves


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I think it looks a fine scheme. Anything would be better than being stuck, crawling down Bridge (?) Street in the centre of the town waiting for those blasted lights to change and pedestrians flying in all directions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭biffoman


    i dont think this was to be dc.afaik it got the go ahead because of congestion and not nesseccerly traffic numbers.there seems to be more scope for future upgrades of this road as compared to the bad planning of the n7.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    murphaph wrote: »
    Is that S2 or WS2? What is the carriageway cross section? Great pics by the way but can't help feel this should have been 2+2 for the sake of the barrier and a little bit more cross section. When you go to all the trouble of doing the cuttings and building the over/underbridges it really makes no sense to go with S2 instead of 2+2.

    The alignments look nice but being a fast S2 road you can be certain it'll see its fair share of head on's.

    To me, it looks like the old S2 standard of 13.5m (2 x 3m H/S - 2 x 3.75m Lanes) - however, I'd imagine that the current S2 (12.3) standard was used. What's interesting though is the width of the verges - wonder do these continue under the flyover? - if so, it's a demonstration of forward thinking - at least a 2+2 should be possible then.

    Regards!


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    After 2 pm tommorrow according to AA Roadwatch it's to open.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Indo
    Cowen to open new €45m Tullamore bypass

    Friday October 23 2009
    The Taoiseach, Brian Cowen, is due in his home town this afternoon to open the new Tullamore bypass.

    The €45m scheme has been completed 10 months ahead of schedule.

    It is designed to ease traffic congestion in the Co Offaly town.

    Mr Cowen turned the first sod on the 14km route when he was Finance Minister in February 2008.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Thought I read €118 million elsewhere :confused:
    Doubt they built that for €45 million to be fair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,152 ✭✭✭rameire


    im heading to Galway from Athy tomorrow, and will hopefully be using the road, edit just realised i wont be using it.

    Doh. stupid N80.
    might get some pics anyway.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    its a different financial atmosphere now maybe? Maybe (the outrageous) land acquisition costs are ommitted to make it not sound like such an excessive cost, the only major project not on an intercity route, just co-incidentally in the same constituency as the then minister for finance and now Taoiseach??
    Seriously, look at the Transport 21 official website linked below and spot the odd one out!!
    http://www.transport21.ie/Projects/Roads/Roads.html

    Anyhow, a transport 21 document linked below mentions 116 million for the by pass project which is way more than what the Government press agents are now claiming the cost is, and probably the figure you heard before:
    http://www.transport21.ie/Projects/upload/File/N52_Project.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭medoc


    rameire wrote: »
    im heading to Galway from Athy tomorrow, and will hopefully be using the road, edit just realised i wont be using it.

    Doh. stupid N80.
    might get some pics anyway.

    The N80 will eventually be bypassed using this road. However this will not be opening for a couple of months.

    Regarding the queries about WS2 or S2 the sections i drove the other day seem to be S2. I didnt get on to some sections so not sure about them. Lookin forward to a full run along it later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    More pics of it would be great too medoc, if possible. Cheers.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    The €45m scheme has been completed 10 months ahead of schedule.
    Although having it open early is great an all, this whole thing of roads opening 10 months early is getting ridiculous. Why don't they just tell us at the beginning what the real timescale is going to be instead of massively overestimating it and then trumpeting how early it was?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    So it cost €116m made up of €45m for the road and €71m for getting biffos out of the way + archeology/fencing/design but these were tiny leading to an admitted grand total price of €116m

    What was the land take does anyone know ??? At the very most they took 70Ha so shifting biffos cost them €1m a Ha on average. Shockin :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Tiny clip on the news. Pity, I'd have liked to see a bit more :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    mfitzy wrote: »
    Tiny clip on the news. Pity, I'd have liked to see a bit more :(

    RTE no longer giving Party Political Broadcasts every time a new road opens - good thing too.

    Delighted it is open will help on my 4 times a year drives to Carlow from Sligo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭nordydan


    Came down the western part today for a look, v good WS2 for a few k and the rest standard, not upgradable, S2. I remember sending an email to Offaly CC about 3 years ago about the N52, and they stated the long term aim was DC from the north of Tullamore to the M6, this would seem to have been easily acommodated by this.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    nordydan wrote: »
    Came down the western part today for a look, v good WS2 for a few k and the rest standard, not upgradable, S2. I remember sending an email to Offaly CC about 3 years ago about the N52, and they stated the long term aim was DC from the north of Tullamore to the M6, this would seem to have been easily acommodated by this.

    I remember a few sections of bypass built this way in the UK that appeared not to be easily upgraded, i.e. overbridges with a single span etc.

    But when the road was dualed (only 7 years after the original bypass was built) the second carriageway was just dropped into place with no problems at all, even the overbridge had the deck extended (without any demolishion) In hindsight the original one looked a bit lopsided. Another section of the same road had a "ghost carriageway" beside it that was simply surfaced and used.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    TAOISEACH Brian Cowen officially opened the €116 million N52 Tullamore bypass in Co Offaly yesterday, 10 months ahead of schedule. The road is expected to remove 10,000 cars from the town every day.
    “I want to thank everyone from the design team who put it right behind my back door,” Mr Cowen said at the opening of the 14km route.
    “I’m probably the only person who they could see wouldn’t be objecting to it. I want to thank them for their foresight in coming up with that particular solution.”
    Speaking of future road projects under the Government’s Transport 21 scheme, given the economic climate, Mr Cowen said: “The major inter-urban network will be completed by the end of next year and then we will move into the next phase of developments.”
    He said the plans were subject to resources, but “the important thing is that the plans are in place”.
    According to the National Roads Authority (NRA), the new bypass will alleviate congestion in Tullamore and remove 10,000 cars from the town daily.
    Mr Cowen said the on-budget early completion of the project was “a great testament to partnership between the private sector, the National Roads Authority, who have been given statutory authority for this kind of work, and the local authority”.
    NRA chairman Peter Malone thanked the Taoiseach and Minister for Transport for their support. “Tullamore has now been given back to the citizens like other bypassed towns in Ireland.”
    He said the NRA was working to provide an “excellent and safer road network”. Progress had been made on a number of routes recently and the M50 works were near completion.
    Offaly county manager Pat Gallagher described the bypass as being of “great importance in developing Tullamore’s role as part of the midland gateway project”. He said the bypass was completed in a timely fashion despite extensive archaeological investigations.
    Tullamore County Council chairman Noel Bourke welcomed the completion of the project. “It is a big investment in this particular area and those who live in Co Offaly are very thankful for that.”
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1024/1224257392317.html


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