Movies running out ?

robbie_998

are movies get less interesting these days ?

the last film i saw that i thought was very good in the cinema was Role Models but since then and this year there hasent being much to drag my attention.

are we gonna see less and less movies come out ?

and will they eventually stop movies in the future cos they dont know what to make ?

maybe there will be a time when we will only see maybe 4 - 5 new movies a year ???

krudler

What about Star Trek, District 9, Drag Me To Hell, Up, Zombieland, 500 Days of Summer, Away We Go, to name but a few good movies that came out recently

robbie_998

krudler wrote: »

What about Star Trek, District 9, Drag Me To Hell, Up, Zombieland, 500 Days of Summer, Away We Go, to name but a few good movies that came out recently

Star Trek was alright but it was only a movie of the programme.
Up is a kids movie so i wouldnt go to that
500 days of summer is just hollywood crap IMO
Away we go again a kids movie.
Zombie land is kinda the same concept of Shaun of the dead which was a piss take of Dawn Of the Dead (both good movies)
District 9 and Drag me to hell i havent seen.

humanji

I think there's still plenty of great films being made, but they're not money spinners so major producers will steer clear of them and so they don't really get a cinema release. That's why we are getting so many remakes, reboots and sequels/prequels. They're a more sure-fire way of making money.

To see todays greats you have to trawl through an almost endless amount of independent tripe to get to them, but they're usually more than worth the effort. You just have to be patient and keep an eye out.

wyrn

Ok so it's a sequel but Crank 2 was pretty original.

9 looks amazing.

Basq

No offence robbie998.. but some of your views are wildly uninformed and downright incorrect.

Star Trek was alright but it was only a movie of the programme.

And...?

Up is a kids movie so i wouldnt go to that

Nonsense.. it's animated but far from a kids movie.

500 days of summer is just hollywood crap IMO

Far from Hollywood crap.. $7.5 million budget and got a limited release in the States.

Away we go again a kids movie.

Away We Go again is not a kids movie at all.. don't know where you got this idea. It's an R-rated (might have been 16's over here) about a couple trying to find somewhere to raise their child.

Zombie land is kinda the same concept of Shaun of the dead which was a piss take of Dawn Of the Dead (both good movies)

** loud exhale **

Where do I start?

District 9 and Drag me to hell i havent seen.

Both excellent movies.. well, Drag Me To Hell wasn't quite as enjoyable as I hoped.

L31mr0d

robbie_998 wrote: »

the last film i saw that i thought was very good in the cinema was Role Models

Have you watched "the Hangover" or "I love you man". Role Models was ok but it was nothing special.

How are you on your foreign cinema? What was the last subtitled film that you watched?

tman

wyrn wrote: »

Ok so it's a sequel but Crank 2 was pretty original.

9 looks amazing.

Watched 9 last night, pretty damn good... Some of the textures seemed very ropey though, and the way the material around their eyes moved just looked plain crap. Definitely one of the more original films I've seen in recent years regardless of visual polish...

I couldn't finish watching Crank 2... Tis bloody loopy!

TheIrishGrover

Role models? Really? It was passable entertainment IMHO. However I can't see how you can start a thread like this, stating role models while dismissing some of the best films of this year so out of hand Up? District 9? Drag Me To Hell? 500 Days? All class in totally different ways and from totally different genres. And that was just this year.

To be honest I think the problem is that you are just not letting yourself be open to what you have not tried yet. Role models is fine passable entertainment but hardly challenging.

robbie_998

basquille wrote: »

No offence robbie998.. but some of your views are wildly uninformed and downright incorrect.


And...?


Nonsense.. it's animated but far from a kids movie.


Far from Hollywood crap.. $7.5 million budget and got a limited release in the States.


Away We Go again is not a kids movie at all.. don't know where you got this idea. It's an R-rated (might have been 16's over here) about a couple trying to find somewhere to raise their child.


** loud exhale **

Where do I start?


Both excellent movies.. well, Drag Me To Hell wasn't quite as enjoyable as I hoped.

never said Star Trek was bad, just thought it was shabby where they got the idea from, it was a good movie though

ok might not just be a kids film but i wont be jumping all over my daddy begging him to bring me to see it.

just because a lot of money is spent on a movie it dosent mean its good, i think we all remember the passion of the christ ?

and again i didnt see the two movies but i'll most likely get around to it.

to the last poster,

i am open minded to movies, i did see i love you man and so on,

and i do have to say the best movie i saw last year was "The boy in the stripped pj's" IMO. or Batman with Heath Ledger.

Last year a cool for movies but i dont see it this year.

Basq

robbie_998 wrote: »

ok might not just be a kids film but i wont be jumping all over my daddy begging him to bring me to see it.

Ermmm.. fair enough!

robbie_998 wrote: »

just because a lot of money is spent on a movie it dosent mean its good, i think we all remember the passion of the christ ?

I never said it was good.. I haven't seen it.

But the fact that you're hugely uninformed about the movies you've chosen to blindly criticize does not bode well for your argument that movies are getting less interesting.

Karl Hungus

And what about Inglourious Basterds? Looks to me that there's plenty of great films coming out this year, you just haven't seen them Robbie.

robbie_998 wrote: »

and i do have to say the best movie i saw last year was "The boy in the stripped pj's" IMO.

Really? I thought that was a horrible emotionally manipulating and forced morality tale. Even worse when you compare it to Schindler's List or The Pianist.

robbie_998

basquille wrote: »

Ermmm.. fair enough!


I never said it was good.. I haven't seen it.

alright, fair enough,

basquille wrote: »

But the fact that you're hugely uninformed about the movies you've chosen to blindly criticize does not bode well for your argument that movies are getting less interesting.

i didnt pick any movies, i was just saying in general they seem to be getting less interesting, a good example to make my point would be The Day The Earth Stood still, the trailer for it looked brilliant but when i saw it, it was not good but not bad, its just like whatever... the original was better

Karl, I said Batman too

krudler

just because a lot of money is spent on a movie it dosent mean its good, i think we all remember the passion of the christ ?

budget was €30 million, not a lot compared to stuff like Spiderman 3 at 250 million, althought that was shyte too

Star Trek was "shabby" as to where they got the idea from? where did you think they got the idea from?! its a Star Trek movie!

Up is not just a kids movie, its one of the most poignant, emotional films I've ever seen, open your mind to more movies and you wont be stuck with stuff like Role Models, a faily mediocre comedy at best

And Zombieland is better than shaun of the dead

Karl Hungus

krudler wrote: »

And Zombieland is better than shaun of the dead

What!? :mad:

krudler

Karl Hungus wrote: »

What!? :mad:

sorry it just is, SOTD is hugely overrated, I dont dislike it, its got some fantastic moments but I dont get the adoration for it, Zombieland was just more fun

Auvers

how about Moon

definitely one of the most interesting and downright brilliant movies I have seen in recent memory

robbie_998

the fact is though movies are running out at the same time, regardless of are they good or not.

lets throw in some facts. (from readers digest movies)

U.S.
2004: 611 films.
2005: 699 films
2006: 673
2007: 656
2008: 520

U.K
2004: 132 films.
2005: 131 films.
2006: 134
2007: 117
2008: 111

krudler

robbie_998 wrote: »

the fact is though movies are running out at the same time, regardless of are they good or not.

lets throw in some facts. (from readers digest movies)

2004: USA 611 films.
2005: " 699 films
2006: " 673
2007: " 656
2008: " 520

UK 2004:132
2005:131
2006:134
2007:117
2008:111

so by your argument, if hollywood makes 500 movies, and half of them are crap, thats better than making 200 good movies?

doesnt matter if theres less movies coming out, its quality not quantity, for every year we get more movies like Up and less like Epic Movie or some **** like that then good

liah

robbie_998 wrote: »

i am open minded to movies, i did see i love you man and so on,

How does that support your case that you're open minded to movies..? I Love You, Man and Role Models are both horrible comedies that MIGHT pass for entertainment on a lazy Sunday afternoon on TV when there's nothing else to watch. Nothing more, nothing less. They're the same genre, and if I recall correctly, even use the same leading actor (could be wrong on this though, been awhile since I saw either.)

It seems you just watch whatever's the latest mainstream flick instead of putting any effort into looking for movies that legitimately look and sound like they've got some kind of quality.

Try broadening your horizons a little and stepping away from the comedies-- or at least watch legitimately funny ones.

robbie_998

liah wrote: »

How does that support your case that you're open minded to movies..? I Love You, Man and Role Models are both horrible comedies that MIGHT pass for entertainment on a lazy Sunday afternoon on TV when there's nothing else to watch. Nothing more, nothing less. They're the same genre, and if I recall correctly, even use the same leading actor (could be wrong on this though, been awhile since I saw either.)

It seems you just watch whatever's the latest mainstream flick instead of putting any effort into looking for movies that legitimately look and sound like they've got some kind of quality.

Try broadening your horizons a little and stepping away from the comedies-- or at least watch legitimately funny ones.

but this isint about what movies are good or not, everybody is gonna be different and of course roles models and I Love you man are gonna be boring now, sure there a year old dont forget ! This thread is that we are running out of ideas for new movies without them being a remake or taking from a show or something and actually i am open to movies, i worked for a cinema last year and i saw nearly every single movie that came out !

krudler wrote: »

so by your argument, if hollywood makes 500 movies, and half of them are crap, thats better than making 200 good movies?

doesnt matter if theres less movies coming out, its quality not quantity, for every year we get more movies like Up and less like Epic Movie or some **** like that then good

nope, im just simply showing that we are infact losing idea's for movies, and to be honest there are a lot of crap movies coming out like: SuperHero movie, Meet The Spartins, the list can go on and they still are only coming out.

krudler

It seems you just watch whatever's the latest mainstream flick instead of putting any effort into looking for movies that legitimately look and sound like they've got some kind of quality.

bingo, like someone who just arrives at the cinema on a firday night and goes to see whatevers on at the time without knowing if its meant to be any good, or just rents whatever xtravision have in their charts

TheIrishGrover

I think you are too uninformed to make such a point. Check out any of the films mentioned in your thread. I don't mean that to be an insult. It's just a fact. If you are limiting yourself to middle-of-the-road fare like role models and I love you man and won't go to see films because they originated on TV, are sci-fi, horror, Chick flick, "for kids" then you cannot make give a balanced opinion on the state of cinema.

Broaden your horizons and you will be surprised at what's out there. Try District 9 for Sci-Fi, Up "For kids", 500 days for "Hollywood crap", Let The Right One In for foreign language. There are more countries out there making films than the US/UK, there are more genres out there than bromances and there are more actors out there than hollywood A/B listers

krudler

but this isint about what movies are good or not, everybody is gonna be different and of course roles models and I Love you man are gonna be boring now, sure there a year old dont forget ! This thread is that we are running out of ideas for new movies without them being a remake or taking from a show or something

Wait...what? somethings "boring" after its been out for a certain lenght of time?that makes no sense, and both of those came out this year, role models in january and i love you man in march, thats not exactly old

robbie_998

krudler wrote: »

but this isint about what movies are good or not, everybody is gonna be different and of course roles models and I Love you man are gonna be boring now, sure there a year old dont forget ! This thread is that we are running out of ideas for new movies without them being a remake or taking from a show or something

Wait...what? somethings "boring" after its been out for a certain lenght of time?that makes no sense, and both of those came out this year, role models in january and i love you man in march, thats not exactly old

Role Models was December and I Love you man was this year,

but like i said, i worked for a cinema last year and i saw every single movie that came out and they got worse and worse the more that came out.

krudler

nope, im just simply showing that we are infact losing idea's for movies, and to be honest there are a lot of crap movies coming out like: SuperHero movie, Meet The Spartins, the list can go on and they still are only coming out.

well the world is in recession, same goes for Hollywood, they probably cant afford to have so many films in production at the same time as previously, and the meet the spartans/date movie/epic movie type fare will continue to get released as they are cheap and quick to make and turn a massive profit, as the cinemagoing public will keep flocking to them, mindless sheep that they are

Simian!

I think the most worrying thing is the amount of remakes. Fair enough remaking movies from the 50's (The Day the Earth Stood Still) or subsequent decades but remaking modern ones shows a vulgar opportunism on the studios side. I'm not sure if it shows a lack of imagination in Hollywood rather than blatant chance to cash in.

The latest trend that almost sickens me is the remakes of excellent foreign films. Oldboy with Will Smith!! [REC] remade shot-for-shot in English and Let the Right One In is on the way. I really can't get my head around it - are they simply remaking these films because they think people are too lazy/thick to read subtitles!?

TheIrishGrover

krudler wrote: »

but this isint about what movies are good or not, everybody is gonna be different and of course roles models and I Love you man are gonna be boring now, sure there a year old dont forget ! This thread is that we are running out of ideas for new movies without them being a remake or taking from a show or something

Wait...what? somethings "boring" after its been out for a certain lenght of time?that makes no sense, and both of those came out this year, role models in january and i love you man in march, thats not exactly old

as someone said in another thread Alien is 30 this year. Hardly boring.

tunguska

robbie_998 wrote: »

are movies get less interesting these days ?

the last film i saw that i thought was very good in the cinema was Role Models but since then and this year there hasent being much to drag my attention.

are we gonna see less and less movies come out ?

and will they eventually stop movies in the future cos they dont know what to make ?

maybe there will be a time when we will only see maybe 4 - 5 new movies a year ???

I understand what youre saying Robbie, sometimes I wont see a good film for what seems like ages but then out of nowhere I'll see something that will restore my faith. I think there'll always be people who'll make commercial, soul destroying crap and unfortunately these people seem to be in the majority. But like I said, every now and again someone will pop up and make something that'll restore your faith.

krudler

robbie_998 wrote: »

Role Models was December and I Love you man was this year,

but like i said, i worked for a cinema last year and i saw every single movie that came out and they got worse and worse the more that came out.

Again that makes no sense, there will always be a mixture of bad/good movies throughout the year, some of 2008's best movies came out in the latter half of the year, Gran Torino, The Wrestler, Frost/Nixon, Doubt, Benjamin Button to name but a few

robbie_998

krudler wrote: »

Again that makes no sense, there will always be a mixture of bad/good movies throughout the year, some of 2008's best movies came out in the latter half of the year, Gran Torino, The Wrestler, Frost/Nixon, Doubt, Benjamin Button to name but a few

out of that list there the only movie i liked was Gran Torino.
Frost Nixon was interesting, the rest were no good,
A Film With Me In It was alright but wouldnt recommend it at all.
Pride and Glory was a brilliant movie though.


tis a mixture but again back to the facts, were still running out of idea's for new movies.

krudler

Maybe you're just too picky then, there's plenty of great, no scratch that, amazing movies out there if you broaden your horizons

TheIrishGrover

Pride And Glory, I Love You Man, Role Models........ Pattern

NothingMan

I am really shocked, this year has been, at least for me, a great year for movies.

I didn't love role models, but I loved I love you man.

500 days was excellent.

Star Trek is on my all time list.

Drag me to Hell, best Reimi movie since Evil dead movies.

Let the right one in, Very original and really cool.

I have also seen some utter shi*e. Blood was unbelievably bad. Transformers 2 was just the same film again, but was entertaining.

GI Joe was even a surprising enjoyment.

There are some great original movies, excellent franchise movies and hilarious comedy by number movies. All worth a watch for their own reasons.

Edit\: Forgot The Wrestler. Loved that movie for Mickey Rourke alone.

krudler

robbie_998 wrote: »

out of that list there the only movie i liked was Gran Torino.
Frost Nixon was interesting, the rest were no good,
A Film With Me In It was alright but wouldnt recommend it at all.
Pride and Glory was a brilliant movie though.


tis a mixture but again back to the facts, were still running out of idea's for new movies.

no, thats your opinion not a fact, again, studios cutting down production costs is a big factor in this, I'm not denying there are too many unoriginal remakes and sequels but thats because people like yourself wont take a chance on the truly original movies that come out, like you said you wont go see Up because "its a kids movie" when its far, far from it, just because something is animated doesnt mean its for kids, and Pixar consistently make fantastic movies, even Cars which I didnt like at first really grew on me after the second time I watched it, when you see that its a love letter to an older, slower paced way of life and the open roads of Americana rather than just a bunch of talking cars its a great little movie.

As for the remainder of the year, you cant say The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus or Avatar arent at least interesting looking

Karl Hungus

robbie_998 wrote: »

were still running out of idea's for new movies.

I'd say it's more a case of major studios playing it safe and not taking risks. I'm sure there's plenty of ideas out there.

robbie_998

krudler wrote: »

no, thats your opinion not a fact, again, studios cutting down production costs is a big factor in this, I'm not denying there are too many unoriginal remakes and sequels but thats because people like yourself wont take a chance on the truly original movies that come out, like you said you wont go see Up because "its a kids movie" when its far, far from it, just because something is animated doesnt mean its for kids, and Pixar consistently make fantastic movies, even Cars which I didnt like at first really grew on me after the second time I watched it, when you see that its a love letter to an older, slower paced way of life and the open roads of Americana rather than just a bunch of talking cars its a great little movie.

As for the remainder of the year, you cant say The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus or Avatar arent at least interesting looking

i said Up and Away we go were kids movies but animated movies are not all kids. I still like Shrek, cars and Monsters inc.

and i think it'd be cool to see Toy Story in 3D but i dont like the way they went about, like soo many people saw it back in the day and now their all gonna see it again just for the 3D Effect. but of an annoyance,

krudler

robbie_998 wrote: »

i said Up and Away we go were kids movies but animated movies are not all kids. I still like Shrek, cars and Monsters inc.

and i think it'd be cool to see Toy Story in 3D but i dont like the way they went about, like soo many people saw it back in the day and now their all gonna see it again just for the 3D Effect. but of an annoyance,

Sweet Jesus, ok pay attention, Away We Go... IS. NOT. A. KIDS. MOVIE!!!!

Its about a couple on the verge of having a child who go on a roadtrip, its not animated, its not pg, its not even remotely AIMED at kids! its a firmly adult humoured movie made by the guy who directed American Beauty

robbie_998

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I'd say it's more a case of major studios playing it safe and not taking risks. I'm sure there's plenty of ideas out there.

krudler wrote: »

Sweet Jesus, ok pay attention, Away We Go... IS. NOT. A. KIDS. MOVIE!!!!

Its about a couple on the verge of having a child who go on a roadtrip, its not animated, its not pg, its not even remotely AIMED at kids! its a firmly adult humoured movie made by the guy who directed American Beauty

got mixed up there, sorry... just remembered what that was now, remember the trailer and it dosent look all that bad

cml387

Here you are Robbie, make your own movie:
http://www.maddogproductions.com/plotomatic.htm

robbie_998

cml387 wrote: »

Here you are Robbie, make your own movie:
http://www.maddogproductions.com/plotomatic.htm

This is what it came out with

Yore Ma.
an original screenplay concept
by The oulone.

Romance: A sexy district attorney teams up with a kind hearted prostitute to find the true meaning of love. In the process they fall in love with her partner. By the end of the movie they have sex with 678 oogly mothers-in-law and end up winning the admiration of their kind hearted prostitute, living happily ever after.
Think sex lies and videotape meets some other movie.

Basq

robbie_998 wrote: »

This is what it came out with

Isn't that the plot for "A Bug's Life"?!

Oh wait.. I'm getting confused!

cml387

robbie_998 wrote: »

This is what it came out with

seen it. It was rubbish.

krudler

cml387 wrote: »

seen it. It was rubbish.

Heard a remake is already in the works

johnny_ultimate

Karl Hungus wrote: »

I'd say it's more a case of major studios playing it safe and not taking risks. I'm sure there's plenty of ideas out there.

I even think in terms of Hollywood this year has been pretty decent. Plenty of tripe and mediocrity, but a vast majority of excellent films this year have been American. Honestly, Robbie, check out Drag Me to Hell (which is both funny and scary) or Up (you keep saying it is a kids movie, and it is to a degree, but there is so much more to it - probably the best film of the year). Those are just two that stand out, and I'd back up most of the others mentioned above.

Also, if you want something original check out Synecdoche New York, which should just be out on DVD now. You probably won't like it, but at least you can't complain that it is short on ideas.

Also - Pride and Glory was a horrible, horrible film!

krudler

Also - Pride and Glory was a horrible, horrible film!

Was that the Ed Norton cop thing? I nearly fell asleep watching that

Karl Hungus

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I even think in terms of Hollywood this year has been pretty decent.

Oh I don't disagree with you, it's been very decent indeed. I'm just thinking that if there's been less films being made, as implied, then maybe Hollywood is taking less chances and tightening their belts, as opposed to the idea that there's just no more ideas.

johnny_ultimate

krudler wrote: »

Was that the Ed Norton cop thing? I nearly fell asleep watching that

Yup. I did fall asleep, pretty sure I had to finish it the next day (I just can't bring myself to stop a film completely)! Dull and simplistic as anything, especially after watching the likes of the Wire and Shield and TV.

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Oh I don't disagree with you, it's been very decent indeed. I'm just thinking that if there's been less films being made, as implied, then maybe Hollywood is taking less chances and tightening their belts, as opposed to the idea that there's just no more ideas.

Yeah I do think that there are less risky ventures, but that has worked to our advantage. Originality is always welcome, but as long as directors are doing fun things in existing genres - Star Trek, Drag Me to Hell, 500 Days of Summer - I think the lack of 'newness' isn't necessarily a bad thing.

nyarlothothep

Yeah I agree with you OP, most movies are dull. The only films that really caught my attention this year were Inglorious Basterds, The Wrestler and District 9. The pixar stuff is just formula driven boredom. Superhero films, generic thrillers etc just don't do it for me.

Sleazus

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Oh I don't disagree with you, it's been very decent indeed.

I'd disagree with the assertion that this year has been "very decent indeed" and suggest that this year has been very weak for movies, particularly after last year.

To be fair, last year gave us a fairly mediocre Oscar season (though Doubt, Frost/Nixon and Slumdog were great), but it gave us the highest quality crop of summer movies in quite some time (The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Hell Boy 2, and even the general blockbusters, like The Incredible Hulk, were above-average). This year's summer has been less than impressive (Transformers 2 and I wasn't the biggest fan of District 9) and though the later weeks gave us something to celebrate ((500) Days of Summer, Inglourious Basterds), the good movies (Moon, Star Trek) were the exception rather than the rule.

Still, looking forward to this year's Oscar crop - with a bit of luck it'll be more like Oscars 2007 than last year (The Lovely Bones, Up, Invictus, A Serious Man, Up in the Air, etc.)

Karl Hungus

Sleazus wrote: »

I'd disagree with the assertion that this year has been "very decent indeed" and suggest that this year has been very weak for movies, particularly after last year.

To be fair, last year gave us a fairly mediocre Oscar season (though Doubt, Frost/Nixon and Slumdog were great), but it gave us the highest quality crop of summer movies in quite some time (The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Hell Boy 2, and even the general blockbusters, like The Incredible Hulk, were above-average). This year's summer has been less than impressive (Transformers 2 and I wasn't the biggest fan of District 9) and though the later weeks gave us something to celebrate ((500) Days of Summer, Inglourious Basterds), the good movies (Moon, Star Trek) were the exception rather than the rule.

Still, looking forward to this year's Oscar crop - with a bit of luck it'll be more like Oscars 2007 than last year (The Lovely Bones, Up, Invictus, A Serious Man, Up in the Air, etc.)

I don't disagree about last year's summer movies, but so far this year I've greatly enjoyed District 9, Inglourious Bastards, Watchmen, Zombieland Moon, Star Trek, and even some half decent films like Public Enemies, Angels & Demons and The Hangover that I quite enjoyed too. Honestly, I think I've been going to the cinema more this year than I have previous years, so yeah I'm pretty happy with saying it's been very decent indeed, and that's with a lot to come yet.