Abortion Addict - 15 abortions in 17 years

JP Liz

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1220095/American-abortion-addict-15-terminations-17-years-publishes-memoir.html#ixzz0TunIOaNK

A woman has admitted to being 'an abortion addict' after having 15 terminations over 17 years.
Irene Vilar said she had the abortions not from poverty or fear but as an extraordinary act of rebellion against her 'controlling' husband who did not want children.
The 40-year-old's confession has unleashed a torrent of attacks from anti-abortion activists on the internet, including death threats and demands for her to be jailed.
The cycle of pregnancies and abortions, which began when she was 16 and ended when she was 33, was also punctuated by several suicide attempts.
Now a successful literary agent with two young daughters, Loretta, five, and Lolita, three, Mrs Vilar has written about her experiences in a memoir, called Impossible Motherhood: Testimony of an Abortion Addict.
The book, which was published yesterday, has shocked many Americans, who remain bitterly divided over the issue, and has angered campaigners on both sides of the abortion divide.
Charmaine Yoest, president of pro-life pressure group Americans United for Life, said: 'It really underscores everything we always say in the pro-life movement - that abortion is part of a very sad story for women.'
However, pro-choice campaigners said Mrs Vilar's book raises uncomfortable questions about abortion as a form of birth control.
Mrs Vilar said of the book's reception: 'I am worried about my safety and the hate mail. I just imagine the "baby killer" stuff and I could be a poster child for that kind of fundamentalism.'
The attractive one-time academic prodigy attended a boarding school in New Hampshire and was accepted into a New York university when she was only 15.
A year later, she fell in love and married a 50-year-old Latin American literature professor, who she says was opposed to having children.
She claims he bragged that his relationships never lasted more than five years and told that having children killed sexual desire.
In response, Mrs Vilar said she rebelled by 'forgetting' to take her birth control pills.

'In the beginning I was taking pills and I'd skip a day or two or give up one month,' she said in a television interview. 'I'd think I'll be better next time.
'But slowly, my days took on a balancing act and there was a specific high. I would get my period and be sad, then discover I was pregnant, being afraid, yet also so excited.'
She claimed she had the abortions so her husband wouldn't leave her although she failed to reveal whether he knew of the terminations.

'Of course, this did not mean I wanted to do it again and again,' she said. 'A druggie also wants to stop every time.
'Women have written memoirs about their anorexia or their bulimia, and they explain the best that they can what motivated their addiction or their behaviour. I try to do the same in this book.'
Her first husband, Pedro Cuperman, a professor at Syracuse University in New York, could not be contacted for comment yesterday.
In her book, Mrs Vilar also revealed how she is haunted by a tragic past. Her grandmother, Puerto Rican nationalist Lolita Lebron, was jailed for 25 years after storming the U.S. Capitol building with a gun in 1954.

She was convicted of attempting to overthrow the government and was jailed for 25 years before she was pardoned by President Jimmy Carter in 1979.
The author was eight when her mother killed herself by jumping from a moving car and died two days later. Her husband had been driving while her tiny daughter had made a pathetic attempt to hold her mother back.
Two of Mrs Vilar's brothers became heroin addicts.
Although she said she did not see herself as a victim, she admitted she felt she had let the women's movement down.
Now re-married, she is raising their two daughters and two teenage stepchildren in Denver, Colorado.
'Motherhood has made me feel accountable,' she said. 'It hasn't made me less pro-choice.
'It's just that I understand and feel the weight of the privilege we have in exercising our right to choose.'
Yesterday, a report released by the U.S.-based Guttmacher Institute revealed the number of abortions fell from 45.5million in 1995 to 41.6million in 2003.
The study claimed progress had been made in reducing unintended pregnancies, but too many women were still having unsafe abortions, with 32 countries having laws that make the procedure illegal.

The manuscript for Impossible Motherhood was rejected 51 times, before finally being published by Other Press.

Miss Vilar married her second husband in 2003 and now lives with her two daughters and two stepchildren. She is planning a new memoir on motherhood.

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brummytom

What a fucking heartless bitch.

bronte

She's clearly ill.

dylano_k

I performed 3 abortions thismorning...millions of the poor lil fellas, belong to the sewers now!!

flanzer

Damn, she could have been the face of the 'Yes to Lisbon' campaign if Coir's words are true

seamus

brummytom wrote: »

What a fucking heartless bitch.

How so?

Look the woman is clearly just a *tiny* bit ****ed up in the head (or at least she was):

The author was eight when her mother killed herself by jumping from a moving car and died two days later. Her husband had been driving while her tiny daughter had made a pathetic attempt to hold her mother back.
Two of Mrs Vilar's brothers became heroin addicts.

You'd be surprised what people's minds do when they're all over the place, and regardless of your viewpoint, everyone would agree that getting pregnant and aborting, over and over and over, is not the action of a perfectly rational person. Anyone in a normal headspace would avoid getting pregnant in the first place.

It's sad, yes, but in the same way that a battered woman will continue to go back to her husband and blame herself for it. It's a mental illness. It doesn't make her evil or heartless.

WindSock

Padlock on the fanny. Problem solved. NEXT.

Gone Drinking

Abortion addict?

Sounds more like a riding addict to me

brummytom

seamus wrote: »

How so?

Look the woman is clearly just a *tiny* bit ****ed up in the head (or at least she was):

You'd be surprised what people's minds do when they're all over the place, and regardless of your viewpoint, everyone would agree that getting pregnant and aborting, over and over and over, is not the action of a perfectly rational person. Anyone in a normal headspace would avoid getting pregnant in the first place.

It's sad, yes, but in the same way that a battered woman will continue to go back to her husband and blame herself for it. It's a mental illness. It doesn't make her evil or heartless.

Fair do's.

I find her actions to be heartless/evil; though I appreciate her intentions may not have been.

seamus

Gone Drinking wrote: »

Abortion addict?

Sounds more like a riding addict to me

Cos she had sex at least 15 times in 17 years? Jealous?

zuroph

Irene Vilar said she had the abortions ... as an extraordinary act of rebellion against her 'controlling' husband who did not want children.

Yeah, you sure showed him! :rolleyes:

sceptre

Irene Vilar said she had the abortions not from poverty or fear but as an extraordinary act of rebellion against her 'controlling' husband who did not want children.

Looks like she cocked up 15 times then - actually having the children might have been more of an act of rebellion.

Nul points for her efforts, I'm afraid.

(edit: snap with zuroph I reckon:))

genericguy

she should have had the kids, she'd have cleaned up on the social welfare, she'd get holiday homes and everything from the HSE for that.

My name is URL

The system must be fcuked.

How can the authorities not intervene in this case?

she is planning a new memoir on motherhood.

That's a fallacy

Gone Drinking

Gone Drinking wrote: »

Abortion addict?

Sounds more like a riding addict to me

15 times in 17 years? jaysus love your missus





edit: dammit ya got there first....

seamus wrote: »

Cos she had sex at least 15 times in 17 years? Jealous?

admiralofthefleet

she must drink a serious amount of gin

Danbo!

What about all the people with miniature American flag addictions? Does nobody care about them?

Stark

Lol at one of the comments on that page: "I wonder if she regrets it. The two she didn't abort I mean".

Snakeblood

JP Liz wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1220095/American-abortion-addict-15-terminations-17-years-publishes-memoir.html#ixzz0TunIOaNK



:eek:

If I only had 15 syringes of heroin in the last 17 years, I think I'd have it all well under control.

Kipperhell

I saw a documentary years ago and it showed Russian prostitutes had regular abortions and I think one claimed she had over 20. It then showed average woman who had abortions in Russia and how they weren't upset about it either. It wasn't about the wrongs or rights of it but more that the standard belief that abortions are traumatic was mostly down to the social views.

Lux23

sceptre wrote: »

Looks like she cocked up 15 times then - actually having the children might have been more of an act of rebellion.

Nul points for her efforts, I'm afraid.

(edit: snap with zuroph I reckon:))

Yea thats what makes no sense about what she is saying, if she was really rebelling she would have had 15 babys instead. God love her though she sounds like she has had an awful life but I get the feeling she probably 'enjoyed' the drama of having an abortion every year or so.

Paddycrumlinman

Abortion Addict me arse..... How can you be addicted to abortion. Its like saying, hey, I love getting pregnant to have an abortion, can't wait.

I don't agree with what is going on but you have to walk in the persons shoes to get a full insight as to her ordeal and actions.

By Jesus, that's a lot of abortions....

People who use abortions as a means of contraception need their heads examined. It's not healthy at all.

Hard to imagine..

Hydroquinone

Here's a thought - I don't believe it.

Let's have a see what that article says about her.

Her granny was a revolutionary. Fair enough, if that wasn't true it would be pretty easy for a journalist to find out. Revoltionary grannies are a tough act to follow.

Her father was driving a car when her mother leapt out and tried to kill herself and Abortion Addict here, as an 8 year old tried to stop her Ma. Yeah, right. mother later died of injuries sustained. Tick one in the misery column.

She's tried to commit suicide a few times - Another misery tick there.

Two brothers are heroin addicts - Hat trick of misery ticks! Woo hooo

She's a fantasist who's trying to show us all how much of a victim she's been. Yet weirdly, despite all the trauma, she managed to get to university when she was 15. Fifteen???? How many people manage that? And better yet, she was only there a year before she married a 50 year old. A 50 year old professor, in a country where you have to be 18 to get married and in a state where the age of consent is 17. Please.
What sort of cock eyed offical allowed that marriage?

She's 40 now and apparently this same man, her husband of yore, is still working as a professor in Syracuse university. How many 84 year olds were there working at your university when you were there, pray tell?

You watch, she'll be uncovered as one of those misery fantasists who writes books that make millions because being a victim makes for good copy. Well, it shouldn't. And it certainly shouldn't when you've made the whole fecking thing up.

Kev_ps3

B!tch should be locked up

Rented Mule

Kipperhell wrote: »

I saw a documentary years ago and it showed Russian prostitutes had regular abortions and I think one claimed she had over 20. It then showed average woman who had abortions in Russia and how they weren't upset about it either. It wasn't about the wrongs or rights of it but more that the standard belief that abortions are traumatic was mostly down to the social views.

Growing up in the States, you would be amazed at the number of women that I know who have had abortions.

You are correct that it all comes down to their personal views on the matter.

Poor Uncle Tom

Look just cut it out, ok!

seamus

Hydroquinone wrote: »

Here's a thought - I don't believe it.

I can see why you'd be skeptical, but you've made a few assumptions:

Her father was driving a car when her mother leapt out and tried to kill herself and Abortion Addict here, as an 8 year old tried to stop her Ma. Yeah, right. mother later died of injuries sustained. Tick one in the misery column.

Not implausible. Physically trying to save her mother herself is probably an imbellishment on the part of the journalist.

She's tried to commit suicide a few times - Another misery tick there.
Two brothers are heroin addicts - Hat trick of misery ticks! Woo hooo

Wouldn't be very surprising in a family where depression and suicide are "topics".

she managed to get to university when she was 15. Fifteen???? How many people manage that?

You'd be surprised. Very gifted children in the US and UK do their SATs/GCSEs early and go to college early. We tend to force everyone in this country to do the leaving at around 17/18.

And better yet, she was only there a year before she married a 50 year old. A 50 year old professor, in a country where you have to be 18 to get married and in a state where the age of consent is 17. Please.
What sort of cock eyed offical allowed that marriage?

It says she fell in love after a year, it doesn't specify how long before they got married. You're also assuming that he was 50 then. Perhaps he was 25 then and he's 50 now. Or perhaps they got married when she was 20 and he was 50?

She's 40 now and apparently this same man, her husband of yore, is still working as a professor in Syracuse university. How many 84 year olds were there working at your university when you were there, pray tell?

Well that guy is working at that university and has published a number of books in the last 15 years. In fact, from the dates of the books (and that no books are attributed to him before 1990), I would run with my hunch that the professor is in fact 50 *now*, but the journalist is conveniently making him look like a pervert by being deliberately vague. So either he is 84 and is still working, or the journalist has gotten the ages all wrong.

There's also proof that this woman did in fact at least work very closely with the aformentioned professor:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3379219.Sea_Journal_Diario_de_Viaje_Scholastic_1997

Remember, it's the Daily Mail. The journalists there can barely string a coherent sentence together without having to re-arrange it into the most sensationalist tripe they can.

Morlar

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

B!tch should be locked up

Then sterilised.

Prof.Badass

Now a successful literary agent with two young daughters, Loretta, five, and Lolita, three, Mrs Vilar has written about her experiences in a memoir, called Impossible Motherhood: Testimony of an Abortion Addict.

She called her daughter lolita wtf???

she is fucked up.

EDIT: just saw hydroquinones post. Don't believe this story either.

Hydroquinone

seamus wrote: »

I can see why you'd be skeptical, but you've made a few assumptions:
Not implausible. Physically trying to save her mother herself is probably an imbellishment on the part of the journalist.
Wouldn't be very surprising in a family where depression and suicide are "topics".
You'd be surprised. Very gifted children in the US and UK do their SATs/GCSEs early and go to college early. We tend to force everyone in this country to do the leaving at around 17/18.
It says she fell in love after a year, it doesn't specify how long before they got married. You're also assuming that he was 50 then. Perhaps he was 25 then and he's 50 now. Or perhaps they got married when she was 20 and he was 50?
Well that guy is working at that university and has published a number of books in the last 15 years. In fact, from the dates of the books (and that no books are attributed to him before 1990), I would run with my hunch that the professor is in fact 50 *now*, but the journalist is conveniently making him look like a pervert by being deliberately vague. So either he is 84 and is still working, or the journalist has gotten the ages all wrong.

There's also proof that this woman did in fact at least work very closely with the aformentioned professor:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3379219.Sea_Journal_Diario_de_Viaje_Scholastic_1997

Remember, it's the Daily Mail. The journalists there can barely string a coherent sentence together without having to re-arrange it into the most sensationalist tripe they can.

Ach, you're very reasonable. I was just joining in the sensationalist bandwagon that her and The Daily Mail were on!

But if we're being serious, let's take two of your counter arguments
1. That she came from a family where suicide and depression and addiction were big influences
2. In the US and UK it's not unheard of for gifted children get to university at 15

Those two really don't mesh for me.

Hydroquinone

vinylmesh wrote: »

She called her daughter lolita wtf???

she is fucked up.

After her granny, the revolutionary from back home in Puerto Rico.

Just because it's a name redolent of kiddy fiddling in the English language, doesn't mean it means the same in other languages. Different languages do names differently

If you heard of a kid called Jesus O'Higgins you'd think his parents were nuts. But they might just be Bolivian.
Similarly when an English person hears of a man called Gay, his first thought isn't that his parents must be Irish, it's that his parents must be bástards.

Prof.Badass

Hydroquinone wrote: »

After her granny, the revolutionary from back home in Puerto Rico.

. Didn't read the whole story. Explanaition is dissappointing.

:|

Reminds me of that Yale art student a while ago who supposedly got pregant and performed abortions on herself a load of times and put the blood from the abortions on her art piece. Think it was a hoax in the end though?

netwhizkid

Abortion is murder and for any person who is misfortunate enough to go through with this once I am sure they never make the same mistake again. She deserves a long prison sentence and if there were the Death Penalty I'd give it to her also.

Lollipops23

netwhizkid wrote: »

Abortion is murder

Right.:rolleyes:



The woman is clearly very sick, and in need of help-she has/had quite a warped view of life and made some very bad decisions. I hope she has gotten the help she needs and has dealt with her actions approporiately.

Jail is not an option-abortions are legal there and a woman is entitled to as many as she wants, wrong as that may be.

apsalar

This story is just too weird. I don't know which would be worse...some truth to the whole sick tale or finding out the poor woman made up the whole thing....bottom line..I'll be avoiding the book.

Elliemental

WHy vilify the woman, she was clearly deeply disturbed? I mean, it wasn`t just the abortions, it was the suicide attempts. And the `controlling` husband, controlling her with his fists, more than likely. Her life must be pretty desparate, and you can`t judge anyone till you`ve walked a mile in thier shoes.

blackbetty69

crikey! that was some feat

Kev_ps3

netwhizkid wrote: »

Abortion is murder and for any person who is misfortunate enough to go through with this once I am sure they never make the same mistake again. She deserves a long prison sentence and if there were the Death Penalty I'd give it to her also.

Nail Head

Hydroquinone

netwhizkid wrote: »

Abortion is murder and for any person who is misfortunate enough to go through with this once I am sure they never make the same mistake again. She deserves a long prison sentence and if there were the Death Penalty I'd give it to her also.

Make your mind up.
Either she hasn't done it 15 times or she's a murderer who should be murdered.

orestes

netwhizkid wrote: »

Abortion is murder and for any person who is misfortunate enough to go through with this once I am sure they never make the same mistake again. She deserves a long prison sentence and if there were the Death Penalty I'd give it to her also.

Pro-lifers advocating the death penalty, never fails to make me chuckle

Kev_ps3

orestes wrote: »

Pro-lifers advocating the death penalty, never fails to make me chuckle

Pro-life for innocent life, not murdering scum.

Riddle101

I'm pro choice when it comes to abortion but this is just deranged. The woman should have been getting help for this.

orestes

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Pro-life for innocent life, not murdering scum.

:facepalm:

Jesus Juice

Although I agree with the right to abortion,this is just crazy.
I'm still totally Pro-Choice though.

Jesus Juice

Jesus Juice wrote: »

Although I agree with the right to abortion,this is just crazy.
I'm still totally Pro-Choice though.

Yeh I agree, I'm totally pro choice but that's just a bit sick isn't it?

It's difficult to believe she could even be fertile after that any abortions.

My name is URL

It's unitards like her that build a good case against abortion

this is the same type of person that decides to have 8 artificially inseminated kids while not having the means to support them

does pro-choice need to include pro-fcukwittery?

drkpower

Out of interest, does anyone who is pro-choice, and who also believe that a foetus is not a "life" or is undeserving of protection, believe that what this woman is doing is actually wrong (as opposed to crazy)?

ScumLord

I think it's wrong to blame her without knowing the full back storey, maybe no body gave her the option of miniature American flags.

Acacia

The woman's clearly fcuked in the head. I feel sorry for her, tbh.

baalthor

Although this lady is a bit mental, women having multiple abortions is probably more common than many (Irish) people think.

As some-one already said, abortion as contraception is more likely in countries like Russia. During the Soviet Era, abortion was the default contraception method in Russia. I remember reading that the Soviets were so concerned about the low birth rate that they would put Youth Defense style anti-abortion posters in the abortion clinics.

Also used to hear that the East German female athletes would get pregnant (or were instructed to do so) so that their bodies would benefit from the improved uptake of nutrients when pregnant, than have a termination before it affected their training. Still not sure if that was really true though!

Then there are the even more ****ed up stories (in every sense)of the Eastern European prostitutes who specialise in servicing clients who are into pregnant women. They are pregnant all the time but never give birth ...

But even in Western countries with good access to contraception there are women who have had above the average number (for various reasons)

Right, off now to write a post about fluffy kittens, flowers and rainbows !