Caseys Castlebar (Ford, Volvo, Renault) - Gone

ninty9er

Kirzzy_Boy wrote: »

This however was not the main cause of the collapse of the motor industry in Ireland.
Who is to blame?
1. The introduction or change to the motor taxation structure in 2008.
2. The failure of the Government to introduce a scrapage sceme.
3. The refusal of the banks to extend credit.

1. The change in tax structure made little difference, but because of the time it came at. Those who could afford new cars bought new last year, but those who couldn't still had no choice but to upgrade to within the old cc based system. It's better for the consumer.
2. A scrappage scheme is of no benefit to our economy as we are not a vehicle manufacturing country, irrespective of components, or to road safety in general as the previous mid 90s scheme.
3. The banks will extend credit to anyone they believe can repay it, the same as they always have.

Hellrazer wrote: »

You left one out :

4.The failure of the government to get rid of VRT and allow Irish dealers to compete with UK and NI imports.

The situation would be completely opposite were it not for £Stg taking a nosedive from circa €1/65p to €1/90p.
Our government can't legislate for that.

Had VRT been aboloshied, it would have wiped tens of millions off the value of stock sitting on forecourts nationwide. THAT would have really fvucked the whole industry. I still believe it would be a positive step but the next sentence which applies to 1 above also must apply.

It is the garages in this country that have screwed themselves over. By maintaining prices based on the fact that "it came in dearer" meant that the 2 year old 5 series on a Kia dealer's forecourt cost about the same as a new one come last July.

Simply put, dealers are unwilling to accept the fact that the arse has fallen out od the market. They are exacerbating the problem by not reducing prices to reflect this.

HOWEVER, the market in 2-3 year old cars seems to have peaked recently with very few available. What is left on forecourts is highly overpriced 4 year old plus cars.

The likes of a 05 base C-Class for €16k on a main Merc dealer forcourt near me might have been great value in July last year, but realistically now it is overpriced given prevailing market conditions. The scarcity of credit-worthy customers is a real problem that dealers really need to face up to. It doesn't matter what they pay for something, they will need to price cars to sell.

fignon03

yop wrote: »

Heard last nite and confirmed on local radio (MWR) that Caseys garage is to close in Castlebar.

Place was busy up there late last nite with fraud vans and "viewers" as cars were been loaded up and taken away.

Very sad for all the people who work there.

<snip rant>

fignon03

Hellrazer wrote: »

You left one out :

4.The failure of the government to get rid of VRT and allow Irish dealers to compete with UK and NI imports.

<snip rant>

cson

Regardless of any issues you may have had wiith them, the end result is more unemployment in this country. It is sad to see any business go under as it invariably costs the local community in the form of jobs and as a consequence local business through the loss of purchasing power. So please, spare us the 'greedy' spiel - no one forced you to deal with them.

-Chris-

fignon03, thanks for joining in.

Can you make your critcisms a little more specific in future, those kind of comments add nothing to the discussion.

bf

It looks as if at lot of the Caseys stock went through Merlin Auctions last night, all at no reserves. Plenty of 08 Meganes & Fiestas.

The 08 Meganies were going for about €7k before fees

junkyard

ninty9er wrote: »

1. The change in tax structure made little difference, but because of the time it came at. Those who could afford new cars bought new last year, but those who couldn't still had no choice but to upgrade to within the old cc based system. It's better for the consumer.
2. A scrappage scheme is of no benefit to our economy as we are not a vehicle manufacturing country, irrespective of components, or to road safety in general as the previous mid 90s scheme.
3. The banks will extend credit to anyone they believe can repay it, the same as they always have.

The situation would be completely opposite were it not for £Stg taking a nosedive from circa €1/65p to €1/90p.
Our government can't legislate for that.

Had VRT been aboloshied, it would have wiped tens of millions off the value of stock sitting on forecourts nationwide. THAT would have really fvucked the whole industry. I still believe it would be a positive step but the next sentence which applies to 1 above also must apply.

It is the garages in this country that have screwed themselves over. By maintaining prices based on the fact that "it came in dearer" meant that the 2 year old 5 series on a Kia dealer's forecourt cost about the same as a new one come last July.

Simply put, dealers are unwilling to accept the fact that the arse has fallen out od the market. They are exacerbating the problem by not reducing prices to reflect this.

HOWEVER, the market in 2-3 year old cars seems to have peaked recently with very few available. What is left on forecourts is highly overpriced 4 year old plus cars.

The likes of a 05 base C-Class for €16k on a main Merc dealer forcourt near me might have been great value in July last year, but realistically now it is overpriced given prevailing market conditions. The scarcity of credit-worthy customers is a real problem that dealers really need to face up to. It doesn't matter what they pay for something, they will need to price cars to sell.

Oh right, it's all the dealers fault now, even though the government trampled over the chance of ever making money out of car dealing with their over the top taxes, the motor industry has to jump through hoops now just to survive. They were in it in the first place to make a profit not to be a charity. When there's widespread carnage like this in any industry in this country our beloved government just watch and let it burn instead of trying to assist it in some way. I know i'd be hanging my head in shame if I was associated with a political party that caused this mess instead of trying to defend them.

The Nutty M

A bit off topic I know,but does anyone know if Casey Auto Rental is still going as a seperate entity or did that collapse as well?