Android For Meteor!

Bluefoam

Just took my first visit over to the Meteor forum & found this, posted today:

http://forums.meteor.ie/index.php?showtopic=52&st=20&start=20

Meteor are getting an Android phone in November. I'll be holding onto my upgrade till then Hoping its a HTC Hero & lets pray they keep the price reasonable...

Rsaeire

No doubt they'll launch an average spec'd handset for the Christmas period, to test the market, and hope the general consumer buys it in droves. Once they see a good result from this, they'll probably release a higher spec'd handset for those who are actively looking for an Android handset.

I might be wrong, but that would make the most business sense.

Oafley Jones

Rsaeire wrote: »

No doubt they'll launch an average spec'd handset for the Christmas period, to test the market, and hope the general consumer buys it in droves. Once they see a good result from this, they'll probably release a higher spec'd handset for those who are actively looking for an Android handset.

I might be wrong, but that would make the most business sense.

Makes sense, my money would be on the likes of the HTC tattoo.

Bluefoam

It would also make sense for Meteor to launch a top of the range Android phone. Vodaphone will have the iPhone and O2 will be launching the Pre alonside their iPhone, so Meteor having a high end smartphone would allow them to compete for demanding users...

Rsaeire

Bluefoam wrote: »

It would also make sense for Meteor to launch a top of the range Android phone. Vodaphone will have the iPhone and O2 will be launching the Pre alonside their iPhone, so Meteor having a high end smartphone would allow them to compete for demanding users...

To be honest, is it not a bit late in the day for Meteor to even attempt to challenge O2 or Vodafone when it comes to high-end handsets such as the iPhone and Palm Pre? Meteor have never been renowned for their high-end handset collection and have only released a few of the bigger sellers of the last few years.

Bluefoam

I now have it on good advice that it will be the Hero...

Skud

suggesting on the forum its the hero.

EDIT: nm

Kintarō Hattori

Bluefoam wrote: »

I now have it on good advice that it will be the Hero...

Any idea what likely price point is going to be?

Bluefoam

I've been told 50, but cannot confirm price yet.

Oafley Jones

Bluefoam wrote: »

I've been told 50, but cannot confirm price yet.

50, So bill pay only?

Was considering getting this unlocked, but as i'm with meteor i think i'll hold off a bit longer. I would be delighted if it was the Hero, hopefully this will mean the app store will be sorted out for Irish customers.

jpogorman

I'm excited about this news. It was a long time coming and hopefully the start of many Android phones arriving. I wrote a tiny app for Android so it would be nice to see it on an actual phone! Having said that, a €50 contract is still too rich for my blood.

Bios

I am really looking forward some android phones too but I won't buy this as it is from eircom.

iknorr

I hope its not a HTC hero. There are better phones than the Hero which will be available in november. look at the hardware for a hero, its just the same as the G2

iknorr

Bios wrote: »

I am really looking forward some android phones too but I won't buy this as it is from eircom.

whats wrong with eircom?

Oafley Jones

iknorr wrote: »

I hope its not a HTC hero. There are better phones than the Hero which will be available in november. look at the hardware for a hero, its just the same as the G2

Such as? What's wrong with the hardware for the Hero?

Bluefoam

Hero is the best android phone to date. Any that will be released in nov won't make it here for about 6 months after... You can wait, I'll have the hero.

btw. The sense interface on the htc is better than any other android, and that includes models due out by others in the next month

iknorr

Bluefoam wrote: »

Hero is the best android phone to date. Any that will be released in nov won't make it here for about 6 months after... You can wait, I'll have the hero.

btw. The sense interface on the htc is better than any other android, and that includes models due out by others in the next month

I havent used sense but i thought it was going to be available on the other htc android handsets???

The magic and hero a pretty much the same phone . Im not sure about justifying the price difference.

i understand that the Irish market is appallingly slow to get new phones ( and I hate it for it) but i did say "I hope" to get a better phone.

The other phones i mentioned would be the likes of galaxy, 2 lgs phones in q4 2009, huawei have a phone out, tattoo, dell mini 3 (equivalent) . Im not saying these are better in everyway than the hero but they will defiantly offer an alternative or should i say, a more frugal choice.


has anyone got any info why meteor pull down the android thread on their forum?

h57xiucj2z946q

Vodafone has appeared in the android market for Ireland lately. Meteor isn't shown yet

metalfest

the thread on meteor's been removed :S

iknorr

so has anyone got any updates? Iv managed to get my hands on the first page of the original meteor thread.

http://rapidshare.de/files/48524231/Jul_29_2009_meteor.doc.html

Oafley Jones

Vodafone just annouced that they'll be selling the Tattoo. Perhaps the reason Meteor deleted the thread is that they've lost the deal.

Easy Rider

Tatoo is a different phone and a pretty poor entry level phone at that. HTC Hero is different piece of kit..

Maddzy

I think vodafone will hold off on higher end android phones this christmas as they want to promote their own 360 platform and the two Samsung phones that are being released with it.

Oafley Jones

Easy Rider wrote: »

Tatoo is a different phone and a pretty poor entry level phone at that. HTC Hero is different piece of kit..

The people working at the meteor website never mentioned the Hero specifically, they talked about Android generally. Given the specs i'd regard the tattoo as an excellent entry level phone.

h57xiucj2z946q

This is irrelevant, but anyway, of the guys on 3's customer support chat said they are planning on releasing an android handset. They wouldn't say which one.

Maddzy

According to Vodafone's forum they have the tattoo exclusively until Spring 2010

Easy Rider

Yeah, good entry level phone but not the killer phone people on Vodafone have been waiting for, a good start all the same.

Yeah, they never mentioned the Hero, but they are testing it, believe me.

iknorr

Easy Rider wrote: »

Yeah, good entry level phone but not the killer phone people on Vodafone have been waiting for, a good start all the same.

Yeah, they never mentioned the Hero, but they are testing it, believe me.

Meteor or vodafone?

Easy Rider

iknorr wrote: »

Meteor or vodafone?

Meteor, told a month or so ago, before any Android handset was announced on the meteor forum...

iknorr

Easy Rider wrote: »

Meteor, told a month or so ago, before any Android handset was announced on the meteor forum...

I got confirmation today that it is the hero. To be released in november, with a price guesstimate being 200 on the cheap bill pay.

Side note: Theres also a little problem with some meteor upgrade phones being non-upgrades due to a supplier mismatch (excuse)
(when u register u dont get the upgrade credit due to incorrect imei)

mobius42

Alyson Fresh Biker wrote: »

This is irrelevant, but anyway, of the guys on 3's customer support chat said they are planning on releasing an android handset. They wouldn't say which one.

I think 3's customer service have said that they are planning to release almost every handset people have asked them about!

iknorr wrote: »

I got confirmation today that it is the hero. To be released in november, with a price guesstimate being 200 on the cheap bill pay.

€200 on billpay! Ouch. That price is going to put people off, considering that you can get the Pre for €49 on bill and the iPhone 3G for €99. Same price as the 3GS on bill; I wonder will it tempt people away?

iknorr

€200 on billpay! Ouch. That price is going to put people off, considering that you can get the Pre for €49 on bill and the iPhone 3G for €99. Same price as the 3GS on bill; I wonder will it tempt people away?[/QUOTE]

I totally agree, but as i said it was a guesstimate. I think that was keeping in the mind the price of the n97 being 299/269. To be honest it is expensive for bill pay, especially when you will need the unlimited data add-on for meteor @ €15.

Someone mentioned earlier on the thread about the android phone being €50. That would make it a very good competitor to the iphone on o2 with the €40 O2 plan.

Bluefoam

iknorr wrote: »

with a price guesstimate being 200 on the cheap bill pay.

€200 on the cheap bill pay, it could be €0 on a high tariff...

Skud

Bluefoam wrote: »

€200 on the cheap bill pay, it could be €0 on a high tariff...

ya the phones are usually cheaper on better tariffs. 200 is the most it'll cost!

iknorr

It appears there is something wrong with the meteor website or else they have blocked me from posting on the android thread. Note the time on the top right of the attachment.
I can edit previous posts but cant post anything new

Pyro Boy

The HTC Hero is coming to Meteor

https://phones.meteor.ie/htc_hero_signup/?referer=store.meteor.ie

This url says the following https://phones.meteor.ie/htc_hero/

iknorr

Report on other sites about the Hero on meteor and bill pay plans

http://techfeen.blogspot.com/

PowerHouseDan

https://store.meteor.ie/ On Front Page, Its the Hero

Bluefoam

Am looking forward to this. I hope the pricing is good.

It certainly seems to be a good answer to the iphone or pre.

nice one meteor.

iknorr

If its not free on bill pay id be very disappointed. This is apparently going to be available on prepay. Pre pay phones on meteor dont really go above €250. But keep in mind Meteor can probably pick up the hero for about 250 (less tax & bulk buying) . now 250 is easily covered on any of the bill pay phones available. So will it be free? Fingers crossed that it will be. Also remember that the tattoo is coming to vodafone....i wonder what they will be offering.

Bluefoam

iknorr wrote: »

If its not free on bill pay id be very disappointed. This is apparently going to be available on prepay. Pre pay phones on meteor dont really go above €250. But keep in mind Meteor can probably pick up the hero for about 250 (less tax & bulk buying) . now 250 is easily covered on any of the bill pay phones available. So will it be free? Fingers crossed that it will be. Also remember that the tattoo is coming to vodafone....i wonder what they will be offering.

The arena on meteor is €99 so i'm not too confident about the price. But can only hope.

iknorr

Bluefoam wrote: »

The arena on meteor is €99 so i'm not too confident about the price. But can only hope.

But lg arena is still about 325 sim free. It was an expensive phone. Im surprised they are still selling it.

Bluefoam

I didn't realise the hero was a budget phone

iknorr

Bluefoam wrote: »

I didn't realise the hero was a budget phone

Who said anything about the hero being a budget phone?

Bluefoam

iknorr wrote: »

Who said anything about the hero being a budget phone?

That is the impresion I got from your comments...

iknorr wrote: »

But lg arena is still about 325 sim free. It was an expensive phone. Im surprised they are still selling it.

iknorr wrote: »

Meteor can probably pick up the hero for about 250 (less tax & bulk buying) . now 250 is easily covered on any of the bill pay phones available.

Sounds like you are pulling figures out of space...

Where do you get your figures... How do you know how much they can buy these phones for? They will probably price the Hero based on the achievable market price (what people will pay) v's cost to them v's maximum margin v's quantity available v's cost of similar phones on other networks - sim free prices don't come into it as most people never even consider or are aware of the option.

However, a basic retail comparison:
Hero Sim Free - €464.99
Arena Sim Free - €384.99
This would suggest that the Hero would be more expensive than the Arena...

Pyro Boy

Released from the 1st of November
PAYG €399
Bill pay from €99.99
Link http://www.meteor.ie/about/news/2009/221009/

Oafley Jones

Pyro Boy wrote: »

Released from the 1st of November
PAYG €399
Bill pay from €99.99
Link http://www.meteor.ie/about/news/2009/221009/

Was hoping for a better price on PAYG. There's a few good sellers on ebay offering unlocked heros (inc. shipping) for about the same price.

Bluefoam

€99 is fine on bill, pretty much as expected. Great thing about meteor is that you don't have to sign up for a crippling plan or 18month contract...

iknorr

Bluefoam wrote: »

That is the impresion I got from your comments...



Sounds like you are pulling figures out of space...

Where do you get your figures... How do you know how much they can buy these phones for? They will probably price the Hero based on the achievable market price (what people will pay) v's cost to them v's maximum margin v's quantity available v's cost of similar phones on other networks - sim free prices don't come into it as most people never even consider or are aware of the option.

However, a basic retail comparison:
Hero Sim Free - €464.99
Arena Sim Free - €384.99
This would suggest that the Hero would be more expensive than the Arena...

I use play.com There generally offer an average internet price. but if u look at clove uk u can get the hero cheaper there. ( last time i checked)

I do agree that the hero should be more than the Arena. I never said it wasnt. What i did do i make a guestimate based on other phones that they offer on bill pay.

IH77

iknorr wrote: »

I use play.com There generally offer an average internet price. but if u look at clove uk u can get the hero cheaper there. ( last time i checked)

I do agree that the hero should be more than the Arena. I never said it wasnt. What i did do i make a guestimate based on other phones that they offer on bill pay.

Just did a dummy order, to get this phone delivered from Clove.co.uk it would cost €423 (or £382.95)

Some would say it is worth the extra to get it sim free, but there is the hassle of having to return it to the UK if there are any problems.

iknorr

IH77 wrote: »

Just did a dummy order, to get this phone delivered from Clove.co.uk it would cost €423 (or £382.95)

Some would say it is worth the extra to get it sim free, but there is the hassle of having to return it to the UK if there are any problems.

I used a hero last week. They guy got it from a seller on amazon uk. for around "380 including delivery".
Yeah the hassle of warranty etc is a pain in the ass. I had to ship a an electric piano to the uk 2 days ago.