Andy Reid and Ireland

Spiritoftheseventies

Given Andy Reid's current form, is it time for Trap to bury the hatchet. I for one think we cannot afford to be without him for rest of campaign. Playing some terrific football at the moment and laid on terrific goal against United yesterday.

artanevilla

Poisoned chalice imo.

Spiritoftheseventies

artanevilla wrote: »

Poisoned chalice imo.

He has proved in last few games that he can open up defenses. We need our best players available to us. Nothing we can do about S Ireland but Andy Reid has done enough at this stage. Let bygones be bygones.

artanevilla

bayviewclose wrote: »

He has proved in last few games that he can open up defenses. We need our best players available to us. Nothing we can to about S Ireland but Andy Reid has done enough at this stage. Let bygones be bygones.

His attitude stinks, the squad needs to be all pulling their weight in one direction, especially with a World Cup, we can't afford to have the same fiasco as last time. Any time I've seen him play for Ireland he's been very average.

8-10

artanevilla wrote: »

the squad needs to be all pulling their weight in one direction

Who better so?

Het-Field

Simply for attacking alternatives, I would want him in the squad. In 2006 it appeared that Ireland would build their team around Joey O Brien, Stephan Ireland, Andy Reid, Paul McShane etc. I was very wrong on that score !

His devisevness is not nearly as obvious as Ireland. I think we need him, and i want him back

CHD

Its S.Ireland all over again. Superthread please.

JimiTime

CHD wrote: »

Its S.Ireland all over again. Superthread please.

Except, Reid actually WANTS to play for Ireland.

Spiritoftheseventies

CHD wrote: »

Its S.Ireland all over again. Superthread please.

Not really. There is nothing we can do about Stephen Ireland. But Reid has played himself into squad at the very least in past month. As for alternatives know Houghton mentioned Keith Fahey during the week but probably a bit early for him still. But like Reid a good distributor of the ball.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

He has created 6 goals in his last 6 appearances for Sunderland, and he is literally half the man he was last season in terms of weight. I don't care what the sheep say Trapattoni is a f***ing idiot for not picking him, and selecting Liam Miller in the squad ahead of him in particular. We have a small pool of talent and can't afford to be leaving out our best players. He plays mainly on the left for Sunderland but can also operate in the centre where he is badly needed.

I follow Sunderland and have been watching his progress closely btw.

Rekop dog

bayviewclose wrote: »

Given Andy Reid's current form, is it time for Trap to bury the hatchet. I for one think we cannot afford to be without him for rest of campaign. Playing some terrific football at the moment and laid on terrific goal against United yesterday.

Who is honestly going to vote no to that poll? I think everyone is aware that he should be there on merit in front of the likes of Miller whelan ect...

But the simple fact is Trappatoni has a style of play which has never changed over the last 30 years or so and he's excluded far bigger and better players than Reid which he perceived didn't fit into his plans. He's hardly going to change his whole philosophy for 'little Ireland' when he's dealt with these sort of pressures for much bigger teams and never wilted to media pressures over player choices.

dogpile

Trappatoni's new 2 year contract..

the bad news...probably means an end to Reid's International career

and the bad news....30 more caps(at least) a piece for both Whelan/Andrews(if he gets another 2 years after that who knows they'll be heading for the ton up club)


the good news I'm working on :rolleyes:

Bounty Hunter

CHD wrote: »

Its S.Ireland all over again. Superthread please.

I thought there was one claiming to be the definite andy reid thread

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

I thought there was one claiming to be the definite andy reid thread

It appears I've been overruled.

briany

Didn't Trapattoni say that he would include Reid as part of his squad should Ireland make it to the World Cup? Was that just a puff piece I read?

lordgoat

briany wrote: »

Didn't Trapattoni say that he would include Reid as part of his squad should Ireland make it to the World Cup? Was that just a puff piece I read?

Obviously keeping him fresh for the summer then....

helimachoptor

He said he would be in the 40 man squad, thats a long way from going to SA -> if we manage to make it there.

LeeroyJones

dogpile wrote: »

Trappatoni's new 2 year contract..

the bad news...probably means an end to Reid's International career

and the bad news....30 more caps(at least) a piece for both Whelan/Andrews(if he gets another 2 years after that who knows they'll be heading for the ton up club)


the good news I'm working on :rolleyes:

Whatever about Andrews, I cannot see where Whelan has put a foot wrong for Ireland this campaign and I believe he fully merits his caps and deserves to be in the set-up. Whelan is a water-carrier and is very important to the side. He roles up his sleeves, makes his tackles and passes the ball well (actually last season he was had one of the highest pass success rates and tackles made rates in the entire premiership) and as all as this he gives 110% to the cause. If we could pick from a fully fit panel and Ireland made a return. i think a 3 man midfield of Whelan, Ireland and either Reid would be very dangerous on the international scene.
The problem Whelan has is that his partner is Andrews and they don't complement eachothers game but that's not his fault. he his an invaluable asset to the team and we shouldn't take it for granted

noodler

artanevilla wrote: »

His attitude stinks, the squad needs to be all pulling their weight in one direction, especially with a World Cup, we can't afford to have the same fiasco as last time. Any time I've seen him play for Ireland he's been very average.

Denmark away? Germany at home? They were aong his last games for Ireland and he was outstanding, to which games are you referring?

His attitude does not stink actually.

ADTR

All he has to do is drop Miller for Reid. Simple.

orourkeda

boooooooorrrrring

givyjoe81

artanevilla wrote: »

His attitude stinks, the squad needs to be all pulling their weight in one direction, especially with a World Cup, we can't afford to have the same fiasco as last time. Any time I've seen him play for Ireland he's been very average.

Are you for real?! His attitude stinks?! He broke a curfew supposedly playing a few songs on a guitar and was unhappy about not playing in a game for his country, and has remained quite dignified publicly about his ommisions from the squad.. terrible attitude indeed. All the while the 'model' pro Ireland's ego continues to speak to the press about how he doesnt want to play for this country, which is dispicable in my opinion, I cant think of a single good reason for it, yet trap wants him involved? Who has the poor attitude?!

Xavi6

LeeroyJones wrote: »

Whatever about Andrews, I cannot see where Whelan has put a foot wrong for Ireland this campaign

Against Georgia at home he was horrific.

Xavi6

givyjoe81 wrote: »

All the while the 'model' pro Ireland's ego continues to speak to the press about how he doesnt want to play for this country, which is dispicable in my opinion, I cant think of a single good reason for it, yet trap wants him involved? Who has the poor attitude?!

This is exactly the sort of thing I don't want to see in this thread. We're here to talk about Andy Reid. Any other Stephen Ireland rants, positive or negative, will be deemed off topic.

Sean7

ADTR wrote: »

All he has to do is drop Miller for Reid. Simple.

Agreed. Miller isn't going to win matches for us. Reid doesn't fit into Trap's system for the first 11 but he'd be a fantastic impact substitute against defences we're having trouble breaking through. Hope Trap reconsiders his future in the squad.

Happy Monday

Trap's point was proven on Reid.
Being 2 stone overweight isn't conduicive to international football.
Said fat bas*ard loses 2 stone and improves PL performances out all of order.
As a result comes back into serious reckoning.
You'll never hear Dunphy mention Reid's weight loss, new attitude and zest for the game.
But Trap knows his stuff.

Spiritoftheseventies

Happy Monday wrote: »

Trap's point was proven on Reid.
Being 2 stone overweight isn't conduicive to international football.
Said fat bas*ard loses 2 stone and improves PL performances out all of order.
As a result comes back into serious reckoning.
You'll never hear Dunphy mention Reid's weight loss, new attitude and zest for the game.
But Trap knows his stuff.

Yes Reid is doing the business. And we will need him in the likely scenario of a play off situation. Whelan and and Andrews honest players but don't think they think outside the box.
Trap has done well to get us where we are now but what will it mean if he leaves Reid out and we lose in play-offs. Its a big gamble he is taking if he choses to ignore our most creative midfielder.

The Rooster

There must plenty of people talking about Andy Reid, who havent seen him play during his recent run of good form. The chap is not playing in the centre of midfield. Talk of him replacing Whelan or Andrews is nonsense.

If Reid ever does get a start for Ireland under Trap, it'll either be out wide or up front behind one of Keane or Doyle.

Speaking of Irish central midfielders, it wasnt the greatest weekend for them:
- Andrews played the 90 minutes for Blackburn alright, but Steven Reid didn't even make the bench.
- After a run of 6 league starts in a row for Glenn Whelan, he was dropped to the bench to make way for the fit again and mighty Salif Diao. Whelan replaced him for the last 15.
- Keith Fahey taken off at half-time for Birmingham, where Lee Carsley was yet again an unused sub.
- Chris McCann not involved with Burnley due to injury.
- Darron Gibson still not making the bench for the mancs.

givyjoe81

Xavi6 wrote: »

This is exactly the sort of thing I don't want to see in this thread. We're here to talk about Andy Reid. Any other Stephen Ireland rants, positive or negative, will be deemed off topic.

Its hardly off topic, i was clearly illustrating how Andy Reid DOESNT have an attitude problem, whereas a certain individual arguably does, therefore its nonsense to justify Reid's 'attitude' as a reason for exclusion.

You took half my post and took it out of context!

me-skywalker

artanevilla wrote: »

His attitude stinks, the squad needs to be all pulling their weight in one direction, especially with a World Cup, we can't afford to have the same fiasco as last time. Any time I've seen him play for Ireland he's been very average.

Your attitude stinks!! He's been putting in huge workin since the summer, loosing weight in his own time. As Bruce has said he's one of the best trainers in the squad and now we have him palying regularly and playing well regulary. We NEED him in the squad at least and let Trap work on him in training. Instead of outcasting him and not even giving him a chance.

artanevilla wrote: »

Any time I've seen him play for Ireland he's been very average.

So has every other player! Except he's actually capable of moments of brilliance whereas the others are just capable of being average.

nollaig

Martin Rowlands has now been called up ahead of him as Steven Reid is out.
Dont think anybody can argue here that Rowlands is a better player or more deserving of a place than Andy Reid.

Do I remember Brady whinging on TV before when Andy Reid was left out? Or Am I imagining it? Doesnt look like he has much influence over selection in there.

cournioni

What I want to know is who voted no?! :mad:

Spiritoftheseventies

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

What I want to know is who voted no?! :mad:

Think we need to have another referendum here!

cournioni

bayviewclose wrote: »

Think we need to have another referendum here!

Too feckin right, we're not going to get to a world cup with voting like this. :pac:

newballsplease

it has nothing to do with Traps 'style' that reid isnt in.


they fell out over a sing song. FACT!

Spiritoftheseventies

newballsplease wrote: »

it has nothing to do with Traps 'style' that reid isnt in.


they fell out over a sing song. FACT!

Yes Trap upset that Reid showed him up in front of the squad. But he has made his point at this stage. Time to draw a line under the whole affair now.

Thanos

They need cover in the squad for Steven Reid as he sat out the Blackburn game at the weekend.

So who is the obvious choice to call up on form......................

Yep, Martin Rowlands! :eek:

I mean come on. I am totally in favour of a punishment when some one steps out of line. But then it has to left there and we move on, Seems Trap can't move on, which is sad. Andy Reid is in a great vain of form atm, sould at least be in the squad as an option.

ctrl-alt-delete

Thanos wrote: »

They need cover in the squad for Steven Reid as he sat out the Blackburn game at the weekend.

So who is the obvious choice to call up on form......................

Yep, Martin Rowlands! :eek:

I mean come on. I am totally in favour of a punishment when some one steps out of line. But then it has to left there and we move on, Seems Trap can't move on, which is sad. Andy Reid is in a great vain of form atm, sould at least be in the squad as an option.

Steven Reid has sat out every Blackburn game this year, except 2 hour long runouts in the league cup, He shouldn't be in the Ireland squad, never mind getting cover for him.

Eire-Dearg

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=145107233545

Get Andy Reid in Ireland Facebook page.

CHD

Yeah, that'll do it. A facebook group.

CHD

He will put the super Martin Rowlands on

Mars Bar

Didn't realise Gibson was injured too...
The Ireland team are dropping like flies!

Spiritoftheseventies

Reid must be seriously depressed. Everyone getting injured and Trap still not calling him up. Time to march on the FAI offices and put an end to this once and for all. Who is with me?

noodler

bayviewclose wrote: »

Reid must be seriously depressed. Everyone getting injured and Trap still not calling him up. Time to march on the FAI offices and put an end to this once and for all. Who is with me?

I am, this is getting beyond a joke now. He purposely weakening the team for his own ego at this stage.

We are still a million miles from actually qualfying too.

Lord Trollington

If he's not called up with Duff,Reid and Gibson injured well then its beyond a farce... i wait to see what happens, but i'm not holding my breath on the issue.
Martin Rowlands does not deserve to be in the squad, neither does Miller, Andy reid be be absoultely sick.And who could blame him.
I'm all for teaching him a lesson, but not at the expense of the best interests of the irish football team

el dude

It's an absolute disgrace that he's not in. And then we have Trap telling lies to the press and we're supposed to buy this tripe?

He's the ONE player we have with a bit of nous on the ball. GET HIM IN FFS!!!

CCCP^

Take out Liam Miller. The chap is unsigned, who is he training with on a weekly basis? Even if Reid isn't going to sail straight into the starting eleven, he should get call up to the overall squad.

If Liam Miller can get in then there is pretty much no competition for places in Trapp's squads. The same players can get in, no matter what.

Pighead

CCCP^ wrote: »

Take out Liam Miller. The chap is unsigned, who is he training with on a weekly basis? Even if Reid isn't going to sail straight into the starting eleven, he should get call up to the overall squad.

If Liam Miller can get in then there is pretty much no competition for places in Trapp's squads. The same players can get in, no matter what.

Agree with what you're saying, but just for your information, Miller signed a 2 year deal with Hibernian a couple of weeks back.

stovelid

Trap will just never rate Bob Dylan. Reid is going to have to accept that.

ctrl-alt-delete

CCCP^ wrote: »

Take out Liam Miller. The chap is unsigned, who is he training with on a weekly basis?

He is playing with Hibs at the moment, 3 appearances so far.

ctrl-alt-delete

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1006/trapattoni.html

Seems Trap is spouting the same ****e now, just about a different position now.