Anyone set up a DVB-S/S2 Tuner Card in their HTPC?

Nelbert

Hi all,
A friend of mine installs for sky and says he can get me a dish for nothing and install it for me(not to recieve sky but for Freesat) so my question is has anyone done this and have the likes of BBC HD and ITV HD working for them through a DVB-S/S2 tuner card?
And if so how was the install process and please recommend a DVB-S2 card for me to use, I'm on Windows 7 using Windows Media Center and would love to keep using it. The Hauppage HVR 4000 (I think it's that one anyway) or maybe 2 of them look like a good purchase if this can be done relatively easily.
Any and all advice is welcome.

meob

i have a:

Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 229 High Definition TV Tuner

in the post, will be using a spare LNB connection (sky dish) for the same purpose you describe

also using W7MC & already have Sky HD (in HD) piped into the media center.

I was looking for some concrete examples of someone getting freesat this way, and just decided tyo take the dive myself & see hwo it goes.

i'll post up when I have the card installed.

Ghost Train

I have a hauppauge hvr 3000. While its not a dvb-s2 card, I can get bbc hd as well as any other freeview channels using altdvb (under xp, did have problems with vista I think). Do need codecs for hd playback.

hvr 4000 should work fine with the software supplied with it

Did buy a second tuner card with two dvb-s tuners and two dvb-t tuners, seems to work but haven't done much with it, would have to install aeriels for it... can't even remember the brand
can't remember if I got it to do HD

edit: I think this is the card http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/5437587/Pinnacle-7010i-PCIe-Dual-DVB-T-DVB-S-Analogue-TV-FM-Radio-Tuner/Product.html

Nelbert

I've read some very positive things about that card and as far as I can tell it's a better option for me than the Hauppauge one. Unfortunately they are not available to be bought anywhere anymore. If your not using it would you be willing to part with it for a fair price. Would really help me out. Don't be afraid to say no I'd just be kicking myself if I didn't at least ask seen as that is the actual card I've been searching for and settled on the other one when I couldn't find it.

mcgovern

I'm interested in doing this too, if anyone has any more to add.

kdobey

I've got a Technotrend s2-3200 card. The support from tt is very bad. The card does not work with vista +tv pack and I don't think it works with Windows 7 either - will confirm this soon.

It works with the shipped tt-viewer software on vista - sometimes (need to reboot before it works usually).

Avoid this card. It's the worst purchase I ever made.

Wheeker

Interested too!

Are there any Dual DVB-S2/DVB-T TV Tuner cards that could be used for both Freesat & Irish DTT (If it ever launched)? Will all DVB-T cards work with the proposed Irish DTT i.e. MPEG4 spec?

Thanks for any info...

54kroc

I'm using the HVR 4000 with windows 7 and it works pretty well but to be honest if it's just sat your after you might as well get the WIN TV Nova-S Plus and save yourself some money as you can get HD sat with it.

To get iTV HD to work in windows 7 you will need to do a couple of things, Change a value in the regisrty,download a codec pack and remember as iTV HD shows up as a radio channel it is named 10510,To get it to work you will have to toggle between BBC HD and iTV HD quickly.

Registry edit:
Click on the start button bottom right of windows 7 and select "RUN",
type in the "RUN" dialog box "regedit" without the quotation marks.
then search in the registery for
'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Media Centre\Settings\TVConfig\fAllowDvbsMHEG' to a value from 0. to 1.

Codec pack:
shark007

Nelbert

cork45 wrote: »

I'm using the HVR 4000 with windows 7 and it works pretty well but to be honest if it's just sat your after you might as well get the WIN TV Nova-S Plus

Thats the thing the HVR 4000 supports DVB-T aswell so that was why I was thinking of that one but could you confirm you can only use one of it's inputs at a time. As in with one HVR 4000 you can record on one tuner but can't watch anything else on that tuner or switch to another one of it's tuners. For example can you record RTE through DVB-T and watch a satellite channel at the same time. My understanding is that you can't but I would love to be wrong.

Talisman

I'm waiting on the release of the BlackGold Technology BGT3595 it should be available in the next month or so before building a new system. The previous DVB-S model (BGT3540) was able to use the 4 digital connections simultaneously, so you could watch 1 while recording 3 other channels.

Ghost Train

Nelbert wrote: »

Thats the thing the HVR 4000 supports DVB-T aswell so that was why I was thinking of that one but could you confirm you can only use one of it's inputs at a time. As in with one HVR 4000 you can record on one tuner but can't watch anything else on that tuner or switch to another one of it's tuners. For example can you record RTE through DVB-T and watch a satellite channel at the same time. My understanding is that you can't but I would love to be wrong.

What I have found with the hvr-3000, is that you can only use one tuner at a time the dvb-t or dvb-s. I'm not saying it can't be done, but haven't been able to or seen any info saying you can.

One thing I've found that I can do (with altdvb) is when you have a few channels on the same transponder eg.rte1,network2,tv3 etc you can record a few of the streams at the same time or watch one or two and record another

BBCHD has bbc1 are on the same transponder so you can watch one channel and record the other

Have found the hauppauge support very good over the years and they keep developing their software, drivers etc. Saying that did have lots of problems with the dvb-s tuning astra2 for the first few months, was a software/driver issue, card was almost unusable

Gyck

I've got a machine with a TeVii S460 DVB-S2 card working with Ubuntu/MythTV and Windows 7 (dual boot). The card works works well with both Ubuntu and Win 7, but I have to say that Windows 7 shines. Channel changes are pretty much instant and it decodes hi def without any problems.

meob

meob wrote: »

i have a:

Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 229 High Definition TV Tuner

in the post, will be using a spare LNB connection (sky dish) for the same purpose you describe

also using W7MC & already have Sky HD (in HD) piped into the media center.

I was looking for some concrete examples of someone getting freesat this way, and just decided tyo take the dive myself & see hwo it goes.

i'll post up when I have the card installed.

well, up & running for about a week now.

setup was simple. I am using this card on a secondary system and archiving all content - watching then on main system with sky HD in media center.

i'll eventually put this card into main htpc, just wanted to test it out first!

quality is excellent and 2 hd channels as well.

(just setting up itv hd now, bbd hd works fine)

riccol1966

Hi, perhaps you could explain what you mean by "...W7MC & already have Sky HD (in HD)..."

Do you mean you have a SKY HD box connected and running into 7MC. As far as I know this was not possible as the SKY HD box only has a HDMI output for HD. Can you elaborate please?

Thanks

meob

riccol1966 wrote: »

Hi, perhaps you could explain what you mean by "...W7MC & already have Sky HD (in HD)..."

Do you mean you have a SKY HD box connected and running into 7MC. As far as I know this was not possible as the SKY HD box only has a HDMI output for HD. Can you elaborate please?

Thanks

sure & its very possible ;-)

the Thompson boxes have component & hdmi -video signal output over both as same time. then combine this with hauppauge hdpvr & dvblink

full hd in media center!

look here:

http://mediacenterhd.blogspot.com/

happy to answer any questions you have on it.

riccol1966

aahh, yes, you've got component out on that Thompson box, that explains it!

I've used MCE since way back in 2004, and I've got SKY SD linked into this for a long time, and now in Win7. So my question is, if I were to use the upcoming blackgold S/S2 satellite card, and a Thompson SKY HD box, could I hook up the box direct, and use my existing remote to change channels as I do now (in essense no changes, no external boxes except the new PCI card and the new Sky HD box. Secondly, Can I ask SKY to specifically install this box when I subscribe to SKY HD ?

meob

you'll need the hd-pvr to get this going unfortunately, no other way to do it.
there are no pci cards out there that will take a component hd signal,& pipe it into media center (supported - afiak)

you existing setup is piping a SD signal into media center over a analogue connections i assume? scrart / svideo?

cant say I am familiar with blackgold S/S2 satellite card, but if they are anyting nliek the WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2 229 - this will give you freesat only, there is no way to decrypt the sky channels, especially hd.

there was a way before with the floppy card readers, sky are now changing the encryption keys on new cards we all got recenely so that rules out the floppy option, that does nto work with hd either.

the way you are changing channels now should remain the same. i would imagine a sky hd installer would not touch this setup with a barge pole ;-)

meob

the hauppauge hdpvr is well worth the investment, the quality is excellent, and having the ability to rip & keep hd movies from sky is worth every penny

riccol1966

Probably me being silly, but if I have a SKY HD subscription and valid viewing card in the appropriate thomson SKY HD box and I take the component output from here and into something like a BGT3595 card (http://shop.blackgold.tv/epages/BT3159.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3159/Products/BGT3595)

then I could bypass the need for the separate Hauppauge PVR?

As long as the type of signal on the component cable is recognised by the PCI card then everything should work, or am I mising something. Apologies if I'm being dumb!

eddiem74

riccol1966 wrote: »

Probably me being silly, but if I have a SKY HD subscription and valid viewing card in the appropriate thomson SKY HD box and I take the component output from here and into something like a BGT3595 card (http://shop.blackgold.tv/epages/BT3159.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3159/Products/BGT3595)

then I could bypass the need for the separate Hauppauge PVR?

As long as the type of signal on the component cable is recognised by the PCI card then everything should work, or am I mising something. Apologies if I'm being dumb!

I believe so, I had a Sky HD Thompson box feeding a Hauppage MCE 150 card via S-Video and it showed all channels, although I've never done more than test the set-up. I am not sure the PQ was HD though, even though I could watch HD channels.

eddiem74

meob wrote: »

well, up & running for about a week now.

setup was simple. I am using this card on a secondary system and archiving all content - watching then on main system with sky HD in media center.

i'll eventually put this card into main htpc, just wanted to test it out first!

quality is excellent and 2 hd channels as well.

(just setting up itv hd now, bbd hd works fine)

meob, can you let me know exactly what you can watch/record in media center?

So you have:

- Sky HD via HD PVR (record/watch same channel, right?)
- HD S2 card (record/watch same channel, right?)

So you are limited here if you want to record two channels from Sky at the same time like a Sky box can, right?

riccol1966

Thats the card I currently have, and it wont be HD because a) you connect via s-video (SD only) and b) the MCE150 card only handles resolutions at SD.

I've seen someone mention that the component output of the SKY HD box could be throlled back (by SKY) to SD, but have not seen any confimation anywhere ?

eddiem74

riccol1966 wrote: »

Thats the card I currently have, and it wont be HD because a) you connect via s-video (SD only) and b) the MCE150 card only handles resolutions at SD.

I've seen someone mention that the component output of the SKY HD box could be throlled back (by SKY) to SD, but have not seen any confimation anywhere ?

Yeah, thought that.

Heard the same on the component, not sure they'll ever bother though.

meob

riccol1966 wrote: »

Probably me being silly, but if I have a SKY HD subscription and valid viewing card in the appropriate thomson SKY HD box and I take the component output from here and into something like a BGT3595 card (http://shop.blackgold.tv/epages/BT3159.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3159/Products/BGT3595)

then I could bypass the need for the separate Hauppauge PVR?

As long as the type of signal on the component cable is recognised by the PCI card then everything should work, or am I mising something. Apologies if I'm being dumb!

that i don’t know. along with the HD PVR, you need DVBlink - which installs virtual DVB-S tuners. this then pulls the signal from the HDPVR & pipes it into media centre. i don’t think DVBlink will work with the BGT3595 - but best ask over at the DVBlink forums

meob

eddiem74 wrote: »

meob, can you let me know exactly what you can watch/record in media center?

So you have:

- Sky HD via HD PVR (record/watch same channel, right?)
- HD S2 card (record/watch same channel, right?)

So you are limited here if you want to record two channels from Sky at the same time like a Sky box can, right?

yip, you can only watch & record 1 channel at a item with my setup( sky HD), however I can record another with the other dvb-s tuner i have , same item as watching / recording sky

i use the 2nd tuner in the sky hd box to archive hd movies then I rip them off the HD when I have spare time, so at least its not gone to waste...

meob

eddiem74 wrote: »

I believe so, I had a Sky HD Thompson box feeding a Hauppage MCE 150 card via S-Video and it showed all channels, although I've never done more than test the set-up. I am not sure the PQ was HD though, even though I could watch HD channels.

thats SD quality only, you may see the HD channels, but that are not piped in at 1080p over a analogue connection...

meob

riccol1966 wrote: »

Thats the card I currently have, and it wont be HD because a) you connect via s-video (SD only) and b) the MCE150 card only handles resolutions at SD.

I've seen someone mention that the component output of the SKY HD box could be throlled back (by SKY) to SD, but have not seen any confimation anywhere ?

why would you want to do that?

if you want SD output from your box, use the scart connection, sounds like waste of a HD signal to me ?

meob

VIDEO = component output from SKY HD -> HDPVR -> DVBlink -> media center

AUDIO = optical out from SKY HD -> HDPVR -> DVBlink -> media center -> AMP

all recording are full 1080 & 5.1 Dolby sound

eddiem74

meob, Sky only outputs in 720p or 1080i, right, so do you scale that to 1080p or just leave?

meob

eddiem74 wrote: »

meob, Sky only outputs in 720p or 1080i, right, so do you scale that to 1080p or just leave?

upscale

the max bit rate is 13.5mbps, so pretty hefty recordings.

Nelbert

The Blackgold BGT3500 provides component in (no mention of sound so I assume you would pass that through your sound card) which means that assuming it's compatible with DVBLink it could also be used in a similar way that meob uses the HD PVR.
Would be best to check if your sound card supports optical in aswell (many only support optical out).

The Blackgold products support hardware encoding which is a major plus as it means your pc doesn't have to be new and shiny or anything.
I e-mailed them last month and as of then there plan was to release the 3595 to O.E.M before or around christmas and to general release soon after that.

I have the HVR 4000 as a stop gap until then.
The blackgold will add dual satellite tuners and a component in (if I ever give in to Sky and their evil roundabout way of embracing media center, I don't want Sky player in media center! I want full feature watch one channel record at least 1 other Sky in media center with HD! Is that too much to ask?)

meob

Nelbert wrote: »

I want full feature watch one channel record at least 1 other Sky in media center with HD! Is that too much to ask?)

it will never happen.

royalties / encryption / file protection / file sharing... to name a few.

the dvblink is far from a sky payer by the way! it is full hd sky with a epg that is a million times better than the sky epg, yes restricted to 1 tuner - just use the other to record movies... its very impressive in action....

eddiem74

meob, so in terms of reliability whats the solution like? How often do recordings fail or other issues surface?

Nelbert

it will never happen.

royalties / encryption / file protection / file sharing... to name a few.

It will never happen is a very blanket statement which I hope turns out to be wrong (preferably some time soon!)
It has happened in the States and they have recently removed the mandatory drm that had been attached to the files that are recorded with CableCard tuners with a Windows update and a firmware update for the tuners.

Honestly I'd be happy even if you could only watch the content on a Windows 7 computer which is part of the same Homegroup. In fact I'd just be happy if I could do it on one pc.

All it takes it Microsoft wanting people to use their product they way it is being used by people in the states with CableCard tuners. A precendent has been set with this type of thing in the states and I think if MS went to the EU version of Comreg(???) and made their case like they did in the states then it would happen.

I would be more than happy to pay for Sky for sports and maybe movies too if they provide what by comparision to the states is now basic and standard integration into Windows Media Center.

I wasn't comparing DVBLink to sky player by the way. DVBLink does a lot of what I'd like just not as well or as simplified as I think we would all like i.e. still need a sky box! SkyPlayer is nothing close to what most Media Center fans/enthusiasts want from Sky which is a legitimate way of subscribing through a DVB-S2 tuner PC Card solution like CableCard does in the states.

meob

eddiem74 wrote: »

meob, so in terms of reliability whats the solution like? How often do recordings fail or other issues surface?

good question!

in fairness, i was having major problems getting it going, covered in my blog, but the latest beta for dvblink is ROCK solid. 100% channel changing - 100% recording schedule. the dreaded "no tv signal...." is no more

the channel changing sucess is due to the dusky box

http://www.dusky-control.com/serial.shtml

no ir buds for my channel changing thanks!

setup was VERY flakey until recently, this is not the dvblink but the hdpvr is very sensitive to usb, so once i had isolated its own controller, all my issues were solved.

the latest driver for hdpvr is 1.5.6 - no official w7 driver but it does work, we are hoping hauppauge will bring a new driver..

hdpvr gets a little hot, so no harm is rising it up to allow air to pass underneath and i cover its ir sensor with tape to prevent any unwanted signals...

clean build htpc with NO other crap on it, using a decent graphic card piped to 52"

looks mint.

eddiem74

meob wrote: »

good question!

in fairness, i was having major problems getting it going, covered in my blog, but the latest beta for dvblink is ROCK solid. 100% channel changing - 100% recording schedule. the dreaded "no tv signal...." is no more

the channel changing sucess is due to the dusky box

http://www.dusky-control.com/serial.shtml

no ir buds for my channel changing thanks!

setup was VERY flakey until recently, this is not the dvblink but the hdpvr is very sensitive to usb, so once i had isolated its own controller, all my issues were solved.

the latest driver for hdpvr is 1.5.6 - no official w7 driver but it does work, we are hoping hauppauge will bring a new driver..

hdpvr gets a little hot, so no harm is rising it up to allow air to pass underneath and i cover its ir sensor with tape to prevent any unwanted signals...

clean build htpc with NO other crap on it, using a decent graphic card piped to 52"

looks mint.

Sounds interesting for sure. I've always been keen to use media center for the lot, but was concerned with reliability, and failed recordings, and given it would need to be family friendly. We use it for Music, Pictures, and Movies at present, but I've shyed away from the TV side.

If fact I have an MCE150 & Dual DVB-T/DVB-S card installed but have never gotten around to setting anything up for regular use.

This approach with the HD PVR is not cheap either, although the bundling of the Arcsoft software offsets that a bit, I was actually considering buying that instead of reinstalling PowerDVD.

Some food for thought.........

meob

i agree fully, there is cost, but i am happy with it.

it has also passed the wife test which was a MAJOR milestone.

so i have all the pics / video / cartoons for kids / movies ect all accessible to family when i am not there.

not to mention the media extender capability.....

eddiem74

meob wrote: »

i agree fully, there is cost, but i am happy with it.

it has also passed the wife test which was a MAJOR milestone.

so i have all the pics / video / cartoons for kids / movies ect all accessible to family when i am not there.

not to mention the media extender capability.....

And the Arcsoft TMT software that comes with it, is it the version that integrates into Media Center for Bluray playback, etc ?

PyeContinental

Yes I have a Hauppage HVR 4000 use it with Windows 7 Media Center.
It seems to be the same as a NOVA-HD-S2 with the addition of a DVB-T/T2 tuner, analog UHF and FM radio tuner.
They were roughly the same price when I was buying (about 105 euro on elara.ie, although they seem to have risen in price since) so I didn't see any reason to go for the Nova-S2 instead of the HVR4000
The only disadvantage I can think of is that with all the connections on the card it may be a little difficult to fit it, as the FM connector is so high on the card, it prevented me from lining it up over the PCI slot without disassembling the case a little first. Otherwise I think I would have had to remove the motherboard to fit it.

You're making the same assumption as I did regarding HD and S2 before I had a chance to experiment with my system. HD doesn't have to be S2 and in fact, BBC HD is broadcast on normal DVB-S, so any DVB-S card will receive BBC HD. Personally I haven't bothered with ITV HD, although if it started broadcasting more regularly I might make the effort to play around with the necessary registry settings to get it working in Media Center.
So, as Cork45 said, you could save some money and buy something cheaper if you only need a DVB-S card. You will need a fairly decent graphics card to show High Def stuff properly though (so that the picture displays smoothly without tearing or stuttering). I found that an Nvidia 9600GT worked pretty much fine, although I'm now using a 9800GT which has a useful HDMI port for connection to a tv.

As for the Hauppauge HVR4000 card, I use it for Freesat with an elliptical (Sky minidish) type dish which I put up myself, and found it surprisingly easy to do so.
I've had no issues with it, and found the installation procedure and tuning setup under Windows 7 very straightforward (with XP Media Center, DVB-s tuning wasn't straightforward and needed registry patches).
You can only use one tuner on the card at a time, so for example, you can't record a DVB-T channel while watching DVB-S or vice-versa, but you can have satellite and terrestrial channels all in the one EPG and you don't have to care or know which tuner is being used when selecting between the channels.
Oh, it works with the Irish MPEG4 DTT channels as well.

The only issue I can think of to mention is that there was an optional update which I installed on windows 7 which seemed to stop the card working when I applied, so rolled it back and it worked again. I haven't investigated any further on that.

meob

eddiem74 wrote: »

And the Arcsoft TMT software that comes with it, is it the version that integrates into Media Center for Bluray playback, etc ?

yes

meob

eddiem74 wrote: »

meob, so in terms of reliability whats the solution like? How often do recordings fail or other issues surface?

actually, there is one other issue i forgot to mention....

PIN entry on movie channels

this is a requirement on most (not all) movie channels pre-watershed and CANNOT be disabled, - lord i have tried.

so with the current setup, i need a way to enter the pin when i change to a movie channel (this is why I am using the other tuner in sky hd to archive movies at moment....)

this can be possible tho.

I am working on a script, which will hook into dvblink, so IF channel = movie channel - enter pin

thats the idea, needs testing & more work....

this is the bit that needs work....

:: Create a list of channels with the ; seperator (start and end with it as well)
set PIN_CHANNELS=;123;111;109;602;555;

:: Check if %SHORT_CHANNEL_NUMBER% is include in the list
echo %PIN_CHANNELS% | find /c ";%SHORT_CHANNEL_NUMBER%;" > result.txt
for /f %%i in (result.txt) do set IS_PIN_CHANNEL=%%i
del result.txt
if "%IS_PIN_CHANNEL%"=="1" goto :SEND_PIN
if "%IS_PIN_CHANNEL%"=="0" goto :END


::SEND_PIN script wait for 3 secs
:SEND_PIN
      ping -n 3 127.0.0.1>nul
      sky-control.exe 0 12 9
      sky-control.exe 0 12 1
      sky-control.exe 0 12 9
      sky-control.exe 0 12 4

meob

the sky-control.exe is dead handy as well as then you can script and macro you might need on the sky remote, ie go to UTV on other channels. pop that inti a batch script & possible use event ghost to assign ti to a button the remote / media center ect...

eddiem74

meob wrote: »

the sky-control.exe is dead handy as well as then you can script and macro you might need on the sky remote, ie go to UTV on other channels. pop that inti a batch script & possible use event ghost to assign ti to a button the remote / media center ect...

So for the ITV's, and all BBC's do you also integrate them into your EPG too ? Do you use your S2 card to pick these up via freesat or ?

To be honest I am all on for a bit of tweaking, but this feels like its getting into the serious bracket, along with the expense !!

meob

its not for the faint hearted, i'll admit that!

to get the freesat channels into the epg & working right, better off with a DVB-S tuner.

the scripting is just a workaround for me at the moment so my wife can watch utv on telly while keeping W7MC on, i have not tied utv into the epg, I am jst going to use my dvb-s for that

at the moment my dvb-s is in a 2nd htpc for testing.... plan is to have dvblink & dvb-s in same box in next few weeks.

then i'll have full access for freesat & Sky HD in EPG

there is no real need to get deep into the scripting, but i enjoy tinkering with the stuff,

the PIN on movie channels is a balls tho - if i want to record a movie via W7MC, i usually schedule it at night to avoid the pin prompt....

no way around it unfortunately, thanks sky!

subway

im using dvb-s card for freesat. works fine in 7mc

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Mod comment: discussion of this sort is unwelcome.

Ritz.

meob

subway wrote: »

im using dvb-s card for freesat. works fine in 7mc

Snipped - see above. Ritz.

mcgovern

Just installed my Win Nova HD S2 card in my PC and hooked it up. Getting stations alright, but the bundled software is a bit crap.
Anyone know where I can get the patch to get it working through Windows Media Centre (Vista)? Or a better EPG (rather than now and next if I'm lucky).

Edit: Found the file somewhere, but still only now and next in the Media Centre EPG

PyeContinental

Do you only have now and next on all channels in the guide?
What happens when you choose to download the latest guide listings?

I'd have a look for Vista Media Center TV Pack 2008 anyway, or if at all possible go to Windows 7 to avoid the hassle of messing about with satellite card patches and "OEM only" packs which should be essential updates.

meob

mcgovern wrote: »

Just installed my Win Nova HD S2 card in my PC and hooked it up. Getting stations alright, but the bundled software is a bit crap.
Anyone know where I can get the patch to get it working through Windows Media Centre (Vista)? Or a better EPG (rather than now and next if I'm lucky).

Edit: Found the file somewhere, but still only now and next in the Media Centre EPG

http://dvblogic.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2329

mcgovern

Thanks meob and PyreContinental, I thought I had installed TV Pack 2008 already, but the fact that it didn't recognise the tuner until I ran the patch, makes me believe I might not have.
I'll try install it again and let you know.

But yeah, at most it's now and next, a lot of the time there will be no listings at all for most stations, including the major ones like BBC etc.

meob

mcgovern wrote: »

Thanks meob and PyreContinental, I thought I had installed TV Pack 2008 already, but the fact that it didn't recognise the tuner until I ran the patch, makes me believe I might not have.
I'll try install it again and let you know.

But yeah, at most it's now and next, a lot of the time there will be no listings at all for most stations, including the major ones like BBC etc.

if your missing channel listings, try this

http://mediacenterhd.blogspot.com/2009/10/customise-w7mc-epg.html