yes vote - bring on the jobs

Philistine · 03-10-2009 11:34am #1

Well, it looks like a resounding yes vote.

Roll on all the promised jobs! Our economy should be back on track in days! Decembers budget shouldn't be full of cut-backs now;)

Won't hold my breath:rolleyes:

Mint Sauce · 03-10-2009 11:36am

and we'll all be earning €1.82/hour

eightyfish · 03-10-2009 11:38am

I'm not looking forward to the legalised abortion, forced military conscription, end of Irish democracy, immediate Turkish membership of the EU (and €1.84 minimum wage), though!

Mena · 03-10-2009 11:39am

I'm lining up my Granny for Euthanasia right now, imagine the queues!

skelliser · 03-10-2009 11:40am

well Lenihen has already started talking about competitiveness, i expect the war on the minimum wage to begin shortly.

I also expect ff to say this confirms that the irish people are with them and that there decisions are starting to work! Oh and roll on tony blair!

The yes side takes full ownership of the unfolding economic collapse btw.

WIZE · 03-10-2009 11:44am

where in the treaty did it say that min wage is € 1.82 per hour?

badinfleunce · 03-10-2009 11:45am

Sick with this country. Collectively we are nothing but a farce - giving away what the people of this country fought and died for. We might as well have remained part of Britain instead of fighting for our independence because we have just given away our freedom. We are no longer a freestate! Sad day for Ireland.

Philistine · 03-10-2009 11:46am

oops I spoke too soon. Brian Lenihan has already rowed back on the "yes to jobs" promise on RTE this morning!!!

eightyfish · 03-10-2009 11:47am

skelliser wrote: »

i expect the war on the minimum wage to begin shortly.

Even though the Cóir poster was a scaremongering lie, I do believe the minimum wage and the dole to be too high. So a lowering of both would, IMO, definitely aid economic recovery.

WIZE · 03-10-2009 11:49am

badinfleunce wrote: »

Sick with this country. Collectively we are nothing but a farce - giving away what the people of this country fought and died for. We might as well have remained part of Britain instead of fighting for our independence because we have just given away our freedom. We are no longer a freestate! Sad day for Ireland.

I bet you weren't thinking that when the EU member states were pumping Billions into Ireland for the Past 15 years

skelliser · 03-10-2009 11:54am

Philistine wrote: »

oops I spoke too soon. Brian Lenihan has already rowed back on the "yes to jobs" promise on RTE this morning!!!

what did he say?

eoinbn · 03-10-2009 11:54am

badinfleunce wrote: »

Sick with this country. Collectively we are nothing but a farce - giving away what the people of this country fought and died for. We might as well have remained part of Britain instead of fighting for our independence because we have just given away our freedom. We are no longer a freestate! Sad day for Ireland.

Your right, we are no longer the free state, we are a republic.

Philistine · 03-10-2009 11:57am

BVB wrote: »

I bet you weren't thinking that when the EU member states were pumping Billions into Ireland for the Past 15 years

And what of the 10 of billions of our fishing stock given to europepean fishermen? We've probably given more than we've gotten back

murphaph · 03-10-2009 11:58am

BVB wrote: »

I bet you weren't thinking that when the EU member states were pumping Billions into Ireland for the Past 15 years

We gave them access to our very extensive fish stocks. It wasn't a one way trade believe me. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. It was business.

major bill · 03-10-2009 1:35pm

Philistine wrote: »

oops I spoke too soon. Brian Lenihan has already rowed back on the "yes to jobs" promise on RTE this morning!!!

you serious and i was expecting a little fairy to knock on my door today with a job offer:(

no excuses now for fianna fail. im looking forward to seeing the next budget.

ei.sdraob · 03-10-2009 2:21pm

the EU already invested 500million few days ago

that was only a few days ago

alot more to come our way

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 03-10-2009 2:24pm

BVB wrote: »

where in the treaty did it say that min wage is € 1.82 per hour?

It doesn't. It states that a person can come here and work for his home wages, but that must be above the minimum wage... It's one of the many bull**** signs that people based their votes from.

OP don't get your hopes up

If anything expect a high immigration trend.

Dinner · 03-10-2009 2:26pm

Philistine wrote: »

And what of the 10 of billions of our fishing stock given to europepean fishermen? We've probably given more than we've gotten back

It's not 'tens of billions' or anything like that. It's about 8.5bn, of which half was taken by Irish boats. So we haven't given more than we've gotten back. Not even close.

ei.sdraob · 03-10-2009 2:28pm

Dinner wrote: »

It's not 'tens of billions' or anything like that. It's about 8.5bn, of which half was taken by Irish boats. So we haven't given more than we've gotten back. Not even close.

and the Irish caught another 4 billion in UK waters (which are alot larger)

something we couldnt do without EU

more was caught by us in UK waters than the UK caught here

major bill · 03-10-2009 2:41pm

Marc Plump Percolator wrote: »

It doesn't. It states that a person can come here and work for his home wages, but that must be above the minimum wage... It's one of the many bull**** signs that people based their votes from.

OP don't get your hopes up If anything expect a high immigration trend.

yea expect alot more kebab shops and mosques throughout the country:eek::)

Zombrex · 03-10-2009 2:48pm

BVB wrote: »

where in the treaty did it say that min wage is € 1.82 per hour?

Bah, the no campaign didn't let a little thing like it not being in (or anything to do) with the Treaty to stop them warning us about it.

Where does it say in the treaty that little green eyed red haired girls were going to be poked until they started crying? Libertas still knew that would the inevitable consequence of a Yes vote. :pac:

markok84 · 03-10-2009 2:55pm

Did anyone hear Cowen say China change instead of climate change in his speech?, and then RTE focused on a chinese person in the front row of the crowd.

major bill · 03-10-2009 3:02pm

markok84 wrote: »

Did anyone hear Cowen say China change instead of climate change in his speech?, and then RTE focused on a chinese person in the front row of the crowd.

lol we really are living in a monty pyton state idiots ha

skelliser · 03-10-2009 3:08pm

the no side lost, they dont have to explain anything about there campaign cause it was rejected.

The yes side however do, the majority voted with them on the basis of job creation and recovery.
where are the jobs, cowen?

Philistine · 03-10-2009 3:54pm

skelliser wrote: »

what did he say?

He was asked if the promise of jobs swung it for the yes side?
And his reply...

"We never promised jobs as a result of a Yes vote"

So much for the YES TO JOBS posters:rolleyes:

murphaph · 03-10-2009 3:54pm

ei.sdraob wrote: »

the EU already invested 500million few days ago

that was only a few days ago

alot more to come our way

Did you read that document? The FIRST LINE makes it clear it's just a loan!

The European Investment Bank is to lend up to € 500m to help Ireland secure and green its electricity supplies and support Europe’s economic recovery

Most of that money will presumably be going straight back to german and danish companies like Siemens and Vestas who make Wind Turbines

ei.sdraob · 03-10-2009 4:00pm

murphaph wrote: »

Did you read that document? The FIRST LINE makes it clear it's just a loan!

Most of that money will presumably be going straight back to german and danish companies like Siemens and Vestas who make Wind Turbines

yes at low interest to a country thats bankrupt for all purposes

where else would our small country get money from? especially nowadays!

Firetrap · 03-10-2009 4:03pm

I wonder were some of those mad Cóir posters counter-productive?

skelliser · 03-10-2009 4:08pm

the coir posters are void in the context of this thread.
the people rejected them and the rest of the no sides arguments.

they sided with the "yes for jobs" and "yes for recovery" of the yes side. Now they must deliver, but theyve already backtracked on the jobs front!
great day for democracy! my hole!

ejmaztec · 03-10-2009 4:18pm

President Blair will be bringing huge sacks of cash when he visits the outer reaches of his empire, so need to worry about anything again....yay!

branners69 · 03-10-2009 4:22pm

Philistine wrote: »

We've probably given more than we've gotten back

+1

skelliser · 03-10-2009 4:22pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

President Blair will be bringing huge sacks of cash when he visits the outer reaches of his empire, so need to worry about anything again....yay!

+1
ya id like to thank the yessers for that one aswell

Liam Byrne · 03-10-2009 4:23pm

skelliser wrote: »

they sided with the "yes for jobs" and "yes for recovery" of the yes side. Now they must deliver, but theyve already backtracked on the jobs front!

great day for democracy! my hole!

People fell for those lies just as easily as people fell for the no side's lies.

The so-called "opposition" will say they can't implement their ideas because they're not in Government, while FF will do what they've always done (remember "zero tolerance on crime" promises, "keep the economy in safe hands", Bertie's promises as Minister for Finance re tax dodgers, etc ?

And as usual, the Irish people fell for it.

Whatever about the pros and cons of Europe, there should be ZERO airtime for the shower of liars false-promisers, fortune-claimers and scheisters currently residing in Leinster House.

sceptre · 03-10-2009 4:24pm

Three pages and if this stretched to ten it still wouldn't go anywhere towards an actual discussion.

yes vote - bring on the jobs

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