BrucePoker Live Tour:11th Oct, Dunboyne Castle. €5K Gtd & Free Entry

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BrucePoker.com Live Tour

€5,000 Guaranteed

Free Entry

3,000 starting stack

Extra 1,000 Chip by registering online with a valid BrucePoker account

5,000 Rebuy for €50

7,500 Topup for €50 at the break

24 minute Blinds

Dunboyne Castle, Dunboyne.

Sunday 11th October

Reg @ 2:00pm, Start @ 3:00pm sharp

Cash games & S.T.T's provided

Online registration will open here at 12pm on Tuesday the 6th of October and will close

at 6pm Saturday the 10th of October.

BrucePoker will cover their expenses from any excess recieved from rebuys/topups above the €5000 guaranteed.

This tournament is limited to 250 players.

Winnings will be credited to your online account and can be collected at anytime in any of our Bruce Betting Outlets.

You must give 24 hours notice for collection of winnings.

**New**

Play heads up for free on BrucePoker.com at this event.
Win 2 in a row and we will put $10 into your BrucePoker account
Win 3 in a row and we will put $50 into your BrucePoker account

1. Who is running the event: Bruce Poker.com
2. The purpose of the event: Commercial
3. Date and Location of event: Dunboyne Castle. Sunday 11th October 2009
4. Registration and Start time of event: Reg @ 2:00pm, Start @ 3:00pm sharp
5. Any prerequisites: No
6. How can tickets be purchased & is there a maximum number: On the night or bought through any of the BruceBetting Shops nationwide, capped @ 250
7. Type of Tournament: Texas Holdem R&A
8. Cost of entry and any subsequent rebuys/top-ups etc: Entry is €0 and there is 1 rebuy of 5,000 chips for €50 within 6 levels and 1 topup of 7,500 chips for €50 at the break.
9. Cost of registration: €0
10. % of entry fee/rebuys/top-up going into Prize fund: BrucePoker will cover their expenses from any excess recieved from rebuys/topups above the €5000 guaranteed.
10a. Is any money from the prize fund held back for future tournaments: No
11. Any guaranteed prize pool: €5000
12. Number of re-buys allowed and over what time frame/blind levels: 1 rebuy within 6 blind levels
13. Starting Chips: 3,000 (4,000 by registering online with a valid BrucePoker account)
14. Rebuy and Top-up chip amounts:1 rebuy of 5,000 chips for €50 within 6 levels and 1 topup of 7,500 chips for €50 at the break.
15. Blind levels:
24 Minute Levels:

I will post a complete list of levels in a seperate post within the next 2 days.

16. Blind timeframes: 24 minutes throughout
17. Places being paid: Decided on the night, approx. 10 - 15% of field
18. Are there going to be dealers? This has to be decided. To save money being taken from the prizepool we might only have dealers on the final 2 tables.
19. Will there be a documented list of rules: Yes
20. Is there a tournament director? Yes – Paul Smallwood
21. How are disputes handled - who has final say? TD
22. Are there any cash games offered, if so, please outline the rake for each limit offered:

• Cash games available throughout tournament.

As always a complete list of upcoming events can be found here.

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From Tuesday at 12p.m. we will open registration on BrucePoker.com. The reg form will be found here:

http://www.brucepoker.com/?upcomingevents/dunboyne_castle_11th_october

On the page we will ask for your name, phone number and brucepoker login name. This must be a valid brucepoker login name and match your name to avail of the extra 1,000 chip.

gorrrr72

I will probably play this. I understand you need to cover your expenses if you exceed the guarantee. It's just the wording of it that makes me a bit uneasy. I have played a few of your events and I know your not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes intentionally but I wouldn't like to see a precedence set for organisers to advertise like this.

It just leaves it open for abuse imo. Maybe if you capped it at 15% to 20% or something it would sit a little easier. Personally I would be planning on spending the €100 pretty much 100% of the time I play something like this.

BRUCEPOKER.COM

gorrrr72 wrote: »

I will probably play this. I understand you need to cover your expenses if you exceed the guarantee. It's just the wording of it that makes me a bit uneasy. I have played a few of your events and I know your not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes intentionally but I wouldn't like to see a precedence set for organisers to advertise like this.

It just leaves it open for abuse imo. Maybe if you capped it at 15% to 20% or something it would sit a little easier. Personally I would be planning on spending the €100 pretty much 100% of the time I play something like this.

Thanks for the comments gorrrr, the reason we have to word it like this is because decisions have to be made that will effect the prizepool for example : to have dealers for more hands an hour or no dealers for less expenses. We also dont know exactly how many people to expect. We know at this time that interest is very big and we want to be able to hold a large well run tournament and cover our expenses. Dont forget that if the prizepool guarantee isn't reached we will be paying out €5000 and the expenses.

gorrrr72

BRUCEPOKER.COM wrote: »

Thanks for the comments gorrrr, the reason we have to word it like this is because decisions have to be made that will effect the prizepool for example : to have dealers for more hands an hour or no dealers for less expenses. We also dont know exactly how many people to expect. We know at this time that interest is very big and we want to be able to hold a large well run tournament and cover our expenses. Dont forget that if the prizepool guarantee isn't reached we will be paying out €5000 and the expenses.

I know you are taking a big risk guaranteeing a free tourney with a 5k prizepool. And guaranteed prizepools are great for the game so it is appreciated.
It just reminds me of another free tourney a while back for someones birthday that caused a lot of controversy because of the eventual prizepool paid after the expenses were taken out.

You know how some gossipers love the chance to start whispers about poker organizers and I would hate to see that happen as I know you run a tight ship.

Maybe I'm not explaining my thoughts very well, I'm not criticizing I'm trying to put across how a punter might feel about it.

I would prefer to pay a reg fee up front of say €20.

The reason is this: Say you get 100 players and you get 150 rebuys/top ups. Total = 7500 minus 2k expenses (example) so prizepool paid is 5500.

Option 2: 100 players pay €20 reg = 2k.
150 rebuys/top ups = 7500 prizepool paid out.


P.S. I like the idea of online pre reg for the extra 1000 chips. Gives an idea of numbers attending which in turn should prompt more people to attend as long as the list is advertised as it gets bigger.

BRUCEPOKER.COM

gorrrr72 wrote: »

I know you are taking a big risk guaranteeing a free tourney with a 5k prizepool. And guaranteed prizepools are great for the game so it is appreciated.
It just reminds me of another free tourney a while back for someones birthday that caused a lot of controversy because of the eventual prizepool paid after the expenses were taken out.

You know how some gossipers love the chance to start whispers about poker organizers and I would hate to see that happen as I know you run a tight ship.

Maybe I'm not explaining my thoughts very well, I'm not criticizing I'm trying to put across how a punter might feel about it.

I would prefer to pay a reg fee up front of say €20.

The reason is this: Say you get 100 players and you get 150 rebuys/top ups. Total = 7500 minus 2k expenses (example) so prizepool paid is 5500.

Option 2: 100 players pay €20 reg = 2k.
150 rebuys/top ups = 7500 prizepool paid out.


P.S. I like the idea of online pre reg for the extra 1000 chips. Gives an idea of numbers attending which in turn should prompt more people to attend as long as the list is advertised as it gets bigger.

Again thanks for the feedback gorrr and I definitely see where you are coming from. I was actually surprised that it was only yourself who left feedback about this so far. As you know we always listen closely to what the players think about our business and I have given your feedback to the guys running the event. From what I know we are trying this out to see if it works and hope everyone has a good time. If it works we will probably run it as a regular tournament but as with all business ventures we might need to tweak it a bit and thats when the feedback comes in.

We will be posting a list of registered players both here and on BrucePoker.com.

joe o neill

ill be there... just something to think about.. if you charge 20reg in its still a free entry tournament... which means you can have dealers and all the buyins can go into the prizepool.... nobody expects not to pay a reg....this way everything would look a lot more transparent....

Gonzo_Fiend

I would be interested in this but only if there are dealers. €20 is reasonable.

afex

dont think you will get as many runners if this t,ney is a €100 self deal pub game rather than the last bruce t,ney in dunboyne which got 48 runners i think and had dealers.i know dunboyne and voodoo the following week where just shy of the 5k mark but a self deal game will probably fall way short, leave it at €120 including reg and dealers., and i,ll play....self deal and id have no interest.

BRUCEPOKER.COM

Thanks for the comments guys. I have been told that this tournament will run as advertised. We will be 100% transparent and our TD will be happy to speak to any and all players who want to know the details of the amount taken if over €5000 is accumulated on the day.
I will be able to post the amount of dealers that will be at this event on Mionday.

BRUCEPOKER.COM

Bump.

gorrrr72

Any idea how many dealers are lined up for this?

BRUCEPOKER.COM

We have 12 dealers confirmed for Sunday so far.


Registration is now Open.

BRUCEPOKER.COM

I have just been informed this will be 20 min blinds not 24 as stated above.

20 Minute Levels:

25-50

50-100
75-150

100-200

150-300

200-400
--Break-- Change up '25' chips300-600
400-800

500-1000
600-1200

800-1600

1000-2000
1200-2400

1500-3000
--Break--Change up '100' chips

2000-4000

3000-6000

4000-8000

5000-10000

etc. antes to be decided on the day by the tournament director and average stack kept within reason for as long as possible.

This is an official Irish Poker Rankings Event
See here for details.

Alan Carroll AC

joe o neill wrote: »

ill be there... just something to think about.. if you charge 20reg in its still a free entry tournament... which means you can have dealers and all the buyins can go into the prizepool.... nobody expects not to pay a reg....this way everything would look a lot more transparent....

Sure you're everywhere!!..
Do agree with the 20 blips idea..
Transparent poker players/sites.. What will they think of next!!!!!!!:D

tm2204

BRUCEPOKER.COM wrote: »

I have just been informed this will be 20 min blinds not 24 as stated above.

20 Minute Levels:

25-50

50-100
75-150

100-200

150-300

200-400
--Break-- Change up '25' chips300-600
400-800

500-1000
600-1200

800-1600

1000-2000
1200-2400

1500-3000
--Break--Change up '100' chips

2000-4000

3000-6000

4000-8000

5000-10000

etc. antes to be decided on the day by the tournament director and average stack kept within reason for as long as possible.

This is an official Irish Poker Rankings Event
See here for details.

I though Bruce decided to fix on 24 min blinds for all their tournaments going forward. Why the change again?

afex

exactly why all the changing ?
no dealers then dealers and now this...
after the stick you got on here after voodoo would it not be best
to stop doing a rafa benitez and changing things every 5mins at this rate there will be more dealers than players come sunday...

The Clamper

looks like you are a tryer for sure

i will be there, always run a good event Paul

as for quibbles, well you wont ever please everyone, i think its great the way you have the ability to change if you agree with comments, some TD's dont listen to their punters, i.e. sorry but the tourney starts at 1pm, no matter how many times they are asked to have it later, just an example

count me in,

Derek

big_iain

I have to agree with TM2204.

Why change the clock. 24 mins is the perfect timing for a quick low buyin event. You can play poker without a crapshoot developing so quickly.

Why the change?

BRUCEPOKER.COM

tm2204 wrote: »

I though Bruce decided to fix on 24 min blinds for all their tournaments going forward. Why the change again?

Interestis big and this is a 1 day event. We are on 68 registered players after less then a day of registration. The TD made the decision yesterday evening.

BRUCEPOKER.COM

afex wrote: »

exactly why all the changing ?
no dealers then dealers and now this...
after the stick you got on here after voodoo would it not be best
to stop doing a rafa benitez and changing things every 5mins at this rate there will be more dealers than players come sunday...

18. Are there going to be dealers? This has to be decided. To save money being taken from the prizepool we might only have dealers on the final 2 tables.

As explained in the first post our decision on dealers depended on interest in the event and feedback from players. We never said there would be no dealers.
And I explained the blinds change in the post above.

The Clamper

SINCE YOU TEND TO LISTEN TO CRITIQUE ETC

HOW ABOUT A COMPRIMISE POSITION

EXTEND THE LENGTH OF THE BLINDS LATER IN THE EVENT, AVOIDING A CRAP-SHOOT AT THE END, WHICH HAPPENS OH TOO OFTEN IN MANY EVENTS

DEREK

JUST MY TUPPENCE WORTH

BRUCEPOKER.COM

The Clamper wrote: »

SINCE YOU TEND TO LISTEN TO CRITIQUE ETC

HOW ABOUT A COMPRIMISE POSITION

EXTEND THE LENGTH OF THE BLINDS LATER IN THE EVENT, AVOIDING A CRAP-SHOOT AT THE END, WHICH HAPPENS OH TOO OFTEN IN MANY EVENTS

DEREK

JUST MY TUPPENCE WORTH

Thanks Derek. I think it really depends on the turnout on the day but I will pass it forward to the TD.

The Clamper

good point and thank you

presuming you get a decent crowd and want to end the event on the same day, that limits the opportunity to extend the blind duration, understood

Derek

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We already have 114 players registered on BrucePoker.com already for this event. Nearly at halfway the maximum players with 51 hours of registration left.

tensevensuited

BRUCEPOKER.COM wrote: »

We already have 114 players registered on BrucePoker.com already for this event. Nearly at halfway the maximum players with 51 hours of registration left.

looks like smallwood will have to do a bit of work this weekend,just dont let him deal.

super182

me and my friends reg'd online are our seats kept and blinded out if we are a little late or will they be given to others? could be a little late because of a match

gorrrr72

Any update on numbers registered?

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super182 wrote: »

me and my friends reg'd online are our seats kept and blinded out if we are a little late or will they be given to others? could be a little late because of a match

To be fair the starting stacks will be binded for the first 3 levels or 1 hour. After that the stacks will be lost.

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gorrrr72 wrote: »

Any update on numbers registered?

We are now at 140 players registered online.

gorrrr72

BRUCEPOKER.COM wrote: »

We are now at 140 players registered online.

Thanks. I'll be there anyway.