problems with eirtakon

Sean_Alpha

same here please get back to me this time

cade

Sean_Alpha wrote: »

same here please get back to me this time

I'm sorry but that just makes me look bad and is totally untrue considering you were never in contact with me before.

I even double checked through all my email addresses, the eirtaku sign up thread, the eirtakon and my own bebo page comments box and my bebo mail box.

Anyway thanks for signing up to staff.

Would anyone else like to volunteer, if you're thinking of volunteering then please do so now, it gives me time to organize things as opposed to last minute volunteers. Having a good number of volunteer staff is really important as it helps us run events on time and with no problems. It's also nice to get to know fellow anime fans as staff generally socialize a lot among themselves.

Sean_Alpha

cade wrote: »

I'm sorry but that just makes me look bad and is totally untrue considering you were never in contact with me before.

I even double checked through all my email addresses, the eirtaku sign up thread, the eirtakon and my own bebo page comments box and my bebo mail box.

Anyway thanks for signing up to staff.

Would anyone else like to volunteer, if you're thinking of volunteering then please do so now, it gives me time to organize things as opposed to last minute volunteers. Having a good number of volunteer staff is really important as it helps us run events on time and with no problems. It's also nice to get to know fellow anime fans as staff generally socialize a lot
among themselves.

Hey all i wanted to is this panel i had everything organised for last year and after you turning it down I feel offended that you have to be apart of the industry of a dcu member there is a huge difference between ur con and the american cons and that is it is easier to organise a panel to do over in the states. As anime fans we get alot of abuse from other groups but when we decide to split ourselves being pretintious such as what you are doing now by not giving fan panels such as mine you inferate people. also by doing this your creating the worst type of fans fans that only the in crowd animes like naruto bleach. so i remove my volunteer application since i cant get my panel

Sean_Alpha

Anyone have any compliants with eirtakon I myself have the comoplaint that they never allow me with my panel that and the narutards

Monkeyto

How do you mean that they don't allow you and your panel?? Whats sort of "panel" is it?

And while I wouldn't be the biggest fan of Naruto. I think it's a great show that has gotten many younger people interested into Anime as a whole.

Art_Wolf

I have merged these posts since they are more related to this topic than to the vounteer sign-up thread.

Art_Wolf

I'd like to point out that you are requesting a panel less than two months before the convention. That would be way after the deadline in a US con and, I assume, Eirtakon.

I don't agree with it being easier to set up a panel at a US con - Anime Boston had 150 panel requests this year and sadly there simply isn't enough time and space for all of them. It is a hard judgmental call attempting to devine what the majority of people would be interested in seeing.

My suggestion would be to ask the eirtakon committee if they have any suggestions that would make the panel more acceptable next year. Take notes about what you like at this years panels and chat with the organizers of the panels.

cade

To start with I'd like to state that the Topic title is slightly misleading. As a member of the Eirtakon Committee I can assure all of you that no problems have arisen during the Organisations of this years convention, we are infact greatly more organised than previous years.

This is merely one persons problem with us because we didn't give him what he wanted.

Firstly: Last year you asked to hold a "Underrated Anime" panel. You submitted that request in April, during which time we were still accepting Fan panels. Your Original Application

When you, in may, stated the anime titles you were classing as underrated you were replied to by the committee on the same day, who stated that those titles would not be considered underrated.

Also you said "overfiend its a lovely childrens film" :eek:, I know i'm not the only one who see's that as misleading and possible worrying content for a Panel.

Secondly: This year you submitted your request at the end of September to hold a panel and a Art Auction. At this point, as I apologetically told you in the Private message reply we had already filled all our panel time slots and sign up for the Artists alley was closed.

"that and the narutards"
How can we be blamed for what series fans follow. If you bothered checking the anime screening schedule for Eirtakon over the last few years you would see we screen a wide diversity of series. On a side note i'm a Naruto fan and find the term Narutard Offensive.

Finally: you Volunteered to be staff. Asked to hold a panel and an Art Auction, told us you'd give us voice actor contacts (bribery). You applications were rejected as you applied too late. After not getting what you wanted you retracted your offer to staff. Then you started complaining online. Don't you think YOU are the one being unfare?

Sean_Alpha

cade wrote: »

To start with I'd like to state that the Topic title is slightly misleading. As a member of the Eirtakon Committee I can assure all of you that no problems have arisen during the Organisations of this years convention, we are infact greatly more organised than previous years.

This is merely one persons problem with us because we didn't give him what he wanted.

Firstly: Last year you asked to hold a "Underrated Anime" panel. You submitted that request in April, during which time we were still accepting Fan panels. Your Original Application

When you, in may, stated the anime titles you were classing as underrated you were replied to by the committee on the same day, who stated that those titles would not be considered underrated.

Also you said "overfiend its a lovely childrens film" :eek:, I know i'm not the only one who see's that as misleading and possible worrying content for a Panel.

Secondly: This year you submitted your request at the end of September to hold a panel and a Art Auction. At this point, as I apologetically told you in the Private message reply we had already filled all our panel time slots and sign up for the Artists alley was closed.

"that and the narutards"
How can we be blamed for what series fans follow. If you bothered checking the anime screening schedule for Eirtakon over the last few years you would see we screen a wide diversity of series. On a side note i'm a Naruto fan and find the term Narutard Offensive.

Finally: you Volunteered to be staff. Asked to hold a panel and an Art Auction, told us you'd give us voice actor contacts (bribery). You applications were rejected as you applied too late. After not getting what you wanted you retracted your offer to staff. Then you started complaining online. Don't you think YOU are the one being unfare?

1 Me referring to overfiend as a childrens film is supposed to be funny as a joke not to be taken seriously and even if such topics came up in the panel just have a adult only panel 2 there is no notification till september about hosting events 3 Narutard term is not directly aimed at u personally so dont be insulted so much unless u are 1 i dont know 4 Use any tool at disposal man to get the things u want so that y i did that 5 its the internet and a board site the internet i made for 3 things. 1 porn 2 to make money 3 To give out about **** .

Sean_Alpha

Art_Wolf wrote: »

I'd like to point out that you are requesting a panel less than two months before the convention. That would be way after the deadline in a US con and, I assume, Eirtakon.

I don't agree with it being easier to set up a panel at a US con - Anime Boston had 150 panel requests this year and sadly there simply isn't enough time and space for all of them. It is a hard judgmental call attempting to devine what the majority of people would be interested in seeing.

My suggestion would be to ask the eirtakon committee if they have any suggestions that would make the panel more acceptable next year. Take notes about what you like at this years panels and chat with the organizers of the panels.

1 maybe i was grammatically wrong What i meant to say it is easier to apply to get a panel over in the states because they have 1 page 1 site and a schedule to when the deadline for the panels is on so there wouldn't be any mucking around 2 there are panels over in states like amv hell 0 and yoai parties . do you really think anything that I can suggest that can beat stuff like girls eating crap or guys shoving ears of crap up someone ass

ztoical

Sean_Alpha wrote: »

1 Me referring to overfiend as a childrens film is supposed to be funny as a joke not to be taken seriously and even if such topics came up in the panel just have a adult only panel 2 there is no notification till september about hosting events 3 Narutard term is not directly aimed at u personally so dont be insulted so much unless u are 1 i dont know 4 Use any tool at disposal man to get the things u want so that y i did that 5 its the internet and a board site the internet i made for 3 things. 1 porn 2 to make money 3 To give out about **** .

Ok your really not making any sense what so every and frankly are being pretty damn rude. I wouldn't let you host any sort of panel or event with the attitude your showing on this forum and also your very poor written skills. Maybe you should look into how you presented your idea for a panel before attacking a con for not supporting it. Ireland doesn't have the population of the US so we don't have the luxury of having cons aimed at one genre, even the UK doesn't have a big enough population to do that. Most cons here have to be general in order to appeal to the widest audience - the needs of the many and all that. I'm sure loads of people had suggestions for panels for eirtakon and they had to turn down alot of them due to time, space and funds but I'm also sure everyone else was more polite when asking.

Sean_Alpha

1 I was polite the first and second time asking about the panel 2 Im not saying that we need a whole con aimed towards 1 anime genre or another I'm just saying that a panel which only need a room with seats should be easy to approve kitacon have a hentai panel.

ztoical

Sean_Alpha wrote: »

1 I was polite the first and second time asking about the panel 2 Im not saying that we need a whole con aimed towards 1 anime genre or another I'm just saying that a panel which only need a room with seats should be easy to approve kitacon have a hentai panel.

You idea of polite seems to be at odds with everyone else and regardless of wither you think you were polite or not your method for expressing yourself both here and on the eirtakon forums is poor at best....I'm still confused as to what exactly your panel request was - it is far to vague and badly presented for anyone to consider. If a con was to approve all the panels that only need " a room with seats" then they'd be in trouble. It's not just a case of giving someone a room, your giving them space at the con thus they are representing the con and it will reflect poorly on the con if a panel is in anyway unprofessional. A con doesn't just give space to panels and leave it at that, they promote them and they have the over all flow of the con to consider when picking and arranging panels. It takes time, effort, and money to promote and run a con and sometimes that means having to limit the selection and streamline the event for clarity's sake.

And "rooms with seats" are like gold at cons, trust me I've exhibited at enough both in the US, Europe and Japan.

Sean_Alpha

ztoical wrote: »

You idea of polite seems to be at odds with everyone else and regardless of wither you think you were polite or not your method for expressing yourself both here and on the eirtakon forums is poor at best....I'm still confused as to what exactly your panel request was - it is far to vague and badly presented for anyone to consider. If a con was to approve all the panels that only need " a room with seats" then they'd be in trouble. It's not just a case of giving someone a room, your giving them space at the con thus they are representing the con and it will reflect poorly on the con if a panel is in anyway unprofessional. A con doesn't just give space to panels and leave it at that, they promote them and they have the over all flow of the con to consider when picking and arranging panels. It takes time, effort, and money to promote and run a con and sometimes that means having to limit the selection and streamline the event for clarity's sake.

And "rooms with seats" are like gold at cons, trust me I've exhibited at enough both in the US, Europe and Japan.

Id give my outline of my panel to the commitee before id do the panel of course u dont say id do a pokemon panel then talk about serious anime and i have been polite if i was to be rude id say they like animes that shouldnt be made and strap them down to a chair and make them watch moonphase hello kitty, dragonball evolution and make them watch a image of ultimate moe of hours and then tell them the aristocrat joke. Id didnt specifically insult anyone becasue if i did id be banned from the forums and ya maybe if applied to do a naruto or full metal alchimest panel id probaly get it it would go with the in crowd but i never do that because whats the fun if ur not ur self. people need to hear about different anime not just the in crowd shonen jump title of the decade ya maybe naruto and fuma are popular now but no one ever heard of black jack mw maybe some havent heard of ninja scroll x/1999 dr slump or even akira. So its my goal quest to vanquish the fads and broaden people on these topics 1 way or another o and using the term narutard i dint create that term its real its created by people that only think that naruto is be and end all o and spoiler

saske kills omicharmaru and eventually naruto becomes hokage duh and its also a ripoff of inyusha

hahaha thats rude but id would be rude if wasnt for u guys calling me rude

Sean_Alpha

o and if anyone challenges me that right id gladly go against them

ztoical

Sean_Alpha wrote: »

Id give my outline of my panel to the commitee before id do the panel of course u dont say id do a pokemon panel then talk about serious anime and i have been polite if i was to be rude id say they like animes that shouldnt be made and strap them down to a chair and make them watch moonphase hello kitty, dragonball evolution and make them watch a image of ultimate moe of hours and then tell them the aristocrat joke. Id didnt specifically insult anyone becasue if i did id be banned from the forums and ya maybe if applied to do a naruto or full metal alchimest panel id probaly get it it would go with the in crowd but i never do that because whats the fun if ur not ur self. people need to hear about different anime not just the in crowd shonen jump title of the decade ya maybe naruto and fuma are popular now but no one ever heard of black jack mw maybe some havent heard of ninja scroll x/1999 dr slump or even akira. So its my goal quest to vanquish the fads and broaden people on these topics 1 way or another o and using the term narutard i dint create that term its real its created by people that only think that naruto is be and end all o and spoiler saske kills omicharmaru and eventually naruto becomes hokage duh and its also a ripoff of inyusha hahaha thats rude but id would be rude if wasnt for u guys calling me rude

This -> . <- is a full stop please learn how to use it along with other basic punctuation.

Art_Wolf

First, a quick suggestion, try and improve the structure of your posts; it is difficult to understand what you are trying to say when it all runs together. I am not even sure what 'right' you are referring to.

Alienating yourself from the convention staff only hurts you and what you want to achieve. Parts of your posts I *think* are tongue in cheek but after you call out the staff and accuse them of 'creating the worst type of fan' it muddies the water.

First I think you need to contact the committee and apologize for publicly bashing them for not hosting the panel - this is something I think you should have attempted to resolve between you guys.

Concerning your panel. You want to highlight certain old or even classical anime shows/movies to those who, you think, are fixated on one show or another? I am not sure how you could have a panel about this; it might be better having a room or time dedicated to 'anime classics' but sadly EirtaKon is severely limited in rooms.

One idea is to take a different approach, say pick 5 shows/movies and doing up a printed description about it. Something printed on A3 that could be tacked to a wall somewhere so people wandering about have some small piece to read. i.e.

'Anime Classic #1
Akira, 1988
<picture>
<plot summary>
<awards>'

With such a tight deadline I am uncertain that anything new could be included at this stage -
* You flesh out the idea and send to the committee
* They need to get together and review
* They respond
* You finalize all 5 designs email them
* They review them and request certain changes
* You make the changes
etc..

Plus printing and deciding where to put them...

Cy_Revenant

Sean_Alpha wrote: »

o and if anyone challenges me that right id gladly go against them

You would seem to hold a very low opinion of the depth of knowledge and experience of your fellow anime fan.

I am familiar with the works you've mentioned, I imagine most people on this forum are also.

Just because the standard of writing in Naruto is poor is no reason to descriminate against the fans of it.

cherryghost

no offence but OP seriously confuses and scares me

wait i DID mean offence

Sean_Alpha

1 will take into account of formatting for different conventions i was just not asked for them before I said i wouldve tho
2 my right is to of free speech
3 Sure I discriminate all the time I have alot of hate its just all balanced instead of 1 group i hate everyone except for my girlfriend coz she hates as just as me
4 i dont know what OP means and all that does come to mind is short version of saying opening
5 i do use punctutation properly but I really dont bother with doing it on stuff like boards sites and social profiling
6 as for the comment on bebo anyone can get her(Veronica Taylor) agents number and email address. but i am friends of the family and went to school with her brother still good mates with the chap

cherryghost

you should bother with punctuation, it makes your points more valid and understandable. some of your points is hard to read to be honest.

Sean_Alpha

True, but its not like Im in english class iIjust sort of use the punctuation for writing emails my blog i'l try to use it in the future and can u explain what op is anyway

Sean_Alpha

o by the way my site is geek-media.blogspot.com check it out and yes i noticed the spelling era in the last post

Art_Wolf

OP means Original Poster - i.e. you

Without decent rhetoric on forums you will have a far more difficult time explaining your position or convincing someone about something etc.

Sean_Alpha

thank you art wolf you seem alot more reasonable than cade in this discussion and i like to say that i take the fear and confusion as a compliment

Funky

what a baffling thread

Sean_Alpha

we could be talking about the true mean of the eva ending with the mix of real life film and aniamtion and tlaking about angels

Padman

cade wrote: »

To start with I'd like to state that the Topic title is slightly misleading. As a member of the Eirtakon Committee I can assure all of you that no problems have arisen during the Organisations of this years convention, we are infact greatly more organised than previous years.

This is merely one persons problem with us because we didn't give him what he wanted.

Firstly: Last year you asked to hold a "Underrated Anime" panel. You submitted that request in April, during which time we were still accepting Fan panels. Your Original Application

When you, in may, stated the anime titles you were classing as underrated you were replied to by the committee on the same day, who stated that those titles would not be considered underrated.

Also you said "overfiend its a lovely childrens film" :eek:, I know i'm not the only one who see's that as misleading and possible worrying content for a Panel.

Secondly: This year you submitted your request at the end of September to hold a panel and a Art Auction. At this point, as I apologetically told you in the Private message reply we had already filled all our panel time slots and sign up for the Artists alley was closed.

"that and the narutards"
How can we be blamed for what series fans follow. If you bothered checking the anime screening schedule for Eirtakon over the last few years you would see we screen a wide diversity of series. On a side note i'm a Naruto fan and find the term Narutard Offensive.

Finally: you Volunteered to be staff. Asked to hold a panel and an Art Auction, told us you'd give us voice actor contacts (bribery). You applications were rejected as you applied too late. After not getting what you wanted you retracted your offer to staff. Then you started complaining online. Don't you think YOU are the one being unfare?

Agree with everything above.Especially "Narurad" being offensive.I am also a fan of what I see as a great manga series and also the most popular series ever made or at least close to it.I wouldnt put him in any con.

Sean_Alpha

I have stated this before but if u have a problem with me then i can set up a date and time and place and we can meet face to face about this:mad:

o1s1n

As baffled and mystified as many of the other onlookers I'll just say this -

OP, from watching how you conduct yourself on this thread there is absolutely no way I would allow you to represent any organisation I was associated with.

I think the guys from Eirtakon are saints for even replying to this rubbish.

Padman

I agree.

And I dont ever say these types of things on boards but your the first person I can officially call a D**khead in the anime/manga section.Everyone else is fairly nice and polite but you on the other hand are just annoying.

Also,I would have no problem meeting "Face to face" with you but do you seriously think im gonna go out of my way to meet you so you can shout about "Narutards" in my face?The Eirtakon staff said no,Deal with it.So far you are the only person I have seen making a complaint about them and a stupid one at that.

Sean_Alpha

fine pick the place and time and date its on

mahomaho

i support this guy seanalpha he has a point thought theres too many narutard bakas in this world.
i think people are trying to deny the fact their yaoi lovers and the reason their always giving out is because their to sexually frustrated and hadnt jerked off to moonphase and my sexual harassment in months:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


BAKAS
oh wait i have windows IME i could just type it like this ﾊﾞｶ :D:p:pac:

Art_Wolf

Right I think this thread has gone as far as it can.

EDIT:
I received this request from the con-director to post.

Ok if you don't know who I am my name is Stephen and I'm the Con-Director of Eirtakon.

I'm not going to argue with you, your entitled to your opinion and if your feel singled out or slighted that's your problem it it not becasue we have decided to pick on you.

However when you did not get your way you resorted to personal attacks on members of the committee. You did not even try to be reasonable simply insulted him and showed your true character. I will not stand for this.

Cade has done a stupidly large amount of work on the convention and has tried to be very polite and reasonable to you. He can come on here to try deal with your grievance and so you took this as a an opportunity to target him personally.

As a result of this I am giving you an official warning that if you send any messages like the one you sent to Cade to any member of the staff, committee or anyone to do with Eirtakon again you will be banned from the event.

We know your name and what you look like so we can and will enforce this.