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Football All-Star nominations

  • 24-09-2009 9:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭


    As expected, Kerry and Cork dominate and looking through the list, you lot weren't too far away. :D

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/gaa/2009/0924/1224255204247.html

    Kingdom and Rebels dominate

    All-Ireland finalists Kerry and Cork boast 22 of the 45 GAA Football All-Star nominations for 2009 and all three of the candidates for Footballer of the Year, though 12 counties are represented in total on the shortlist revealed this evening.

    After claiming Sam on Sunday, the Kingdom’s Paul Galvin and Tomás O’Sé will once again go head-to-head with Cork captain Graham Canty for the individual award.

    Tadhg Kennelly is another Kerryman on the All-Star list, wrapping up a remarkably successful return to domestic football after a lengthy spell in the AFL with the Sydney Swans. He’ll know if he will emulate his father Tim – a two-time winner at centre back in 1979 and 1980 - on Friday October 16th.

    A decade on from winning his first All-Star, Rebel defender Anthony Lynch is nominated again but his team-mate Colm O’Neill has been omitted, though he is shortlisted for the Young Player award alongside Donegal’s Michael Murphy and Mayo’s Aidan O’Shea.

    Murphy’s scoring exploits were exceeded only by fellow full forward Colm Cooper, while his scoring average of six points per game was bettered only by Dublin’s Bernard Brogan.

    Brogan is joined on the list by his brother Alan, Dublin goalkeeper Stephen Cluxton and half-back Barry Cahill.

    Tyrone have five nominations in total but there is no place for 2008 Footballer of the Year Seán Cavanagh.

    The 2009 GAA Football All Stars nominations

    Goalkeepers

    Stephen Cluxton (Dublin), Diarmuid Murphy (Kerry), Alan Quirke (Cork)

    Full Backs

    Tommy Griffin (Kerry), Tom O’Sullivan (Kerry), Marc Ó Sé (Kerry), Anthony Lynch (Cork), Michael Shields (Cork), Ciarán Hyland (Wicklow), Karl Lacey (Donegal), Johnny McCarthy (Limerick), Justin McMahon (Tyrone)

    Half Backs

    Graham Canty (Cork), John Miskella (Cork), Michael McCarthy (Kerry), Tomas Ó Sé (Kerry), Davy Harte (Tyrone), Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone), Barry Cahill (Dublin), Johnny Davey (Sligo), Andy Moran (Mayo)

    Midfield

    Dermot Earley (Kildare), Nicholas Murphy (Cork), Alan O’Connor (Cork), Kevin Hughes (Tyrone), John Galvin (Limerick), Séamus Scanlon (Kerry)

    Half Forwards

    Paul Galvin (Kerry), Tadhg Kennelly (Kerry), Alan Brogan (Dublin), Leighton Glynn (Wicklow), James Kavanagh (Kildare), Trevor Mortimer (Mayo), Paddy Kelly (Cork), Pearse O’Neill (Cork), Joe Sheridan (Meath)

    Full Forwards

    Bernard Brogan (Dublin), Colm Cooper (Kerry), Declan O’Sullivan (Kerry), Tommy Walsh (Kerry), Daniel Goulding (Cork), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Michael McCann (Antrim), Stephen O’Neill (Tyrone), Alan Smith (Kildare)

    Footballer of the Year

    Graham Canty (Cork), Paul Galvin (Kerry), Tomas Ó Sé (Kerry)

    Young Footballer of the Year

    Michael Murphy (Donegal), Colm O’Neill (Cork), Aidan O’Shea (Mayo)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    2009 GAA Football All Stars nominations:

    Goalkeepers:
    Stephen Cluxton (Dublin), Diarmuid Murphy (Kerry), Alan Quirke (Cork)

    Full Backs:
    Tommy Griffin (Kerry), Tom O'Sullivan (Kerry), Marc Ó Sé (Kerry), Anthony Lynch (Cork), Michael Shields (Cork), Ciarán Hyland (Wicklow), Karl Lacey (Donegal), Johnny McCarthy (Limerick), Justin McMahon (Tyrone)

    Half Backs:
    Graham Canty (Cork), John Miskella (Cork), Michael McCarthy (Kerry), Tomas Ó Sé (Kerry), Davy Harte (Tyrone), Ryan McMenamin (Tyrone), Barry Cahill (Dublin), Johnny Davey (Sligo), Andy Moran (Mayo)

    Midfield:
    Dermot Earley (Kildare), Nicholas Murphy (Cork), Alan O'Connor (Cork), Kevin Hughes (Tyrone), John Galvin (Limerick), Séamus Scanlon (Kerry)

    Half Forwards:
    Paul Galvin (Kerry), Tadhg Kennelly (Kerry), Alan Brogan (Dublin), Leighton Glynn (Wicklow), James Kavanagh (Kildare), Trevor Mortimer (Mayo), Paddy Kelly (Cork), Pearse O'Neill (Cork), Joe Sheridan (Meath)

    Full Forwards:
    Bernard Brogan (Dublin), Colm Cooper (Kerry), Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry), Tommy Walsh (Kerry), Daniel Goulding (Cork), Michael Murphy (Donegal), Michael McCann (Antrim), Stephen O'Neill (Tyrone), Alan Smith (Kildare)

    Footballer of the Year:
    Graham Canty (Cork), Paul Galvin (Kerry), Tomas Ó Sé (Kerry)

    Young Footballer of the Year:
    Michael Murphy (Donegal), Colm O'Neill (Cork), Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Dara O Sè not nominated for mid-field :eek:

    other than that though I am happy with the Kerry selections


    Footballer of the Year: my money is on Tomàs O Sè :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    No need for two threads, threads merged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    any thoughts on Centre-Back? i know Canty will probably get it BUT would Kerry have been ok without Micheal McCarthy??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    since when was Ryan McMenamin a half-back?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    1.Diarmuid Murphy[cert]
    2.Karl Lacey[Ciaran Hyland could push him here]
    3.Michael Sheilds[cert]
    4.Tom O Sullivan[cert]
    5.Tomas O Se[cert]
    6.Graham Canty[cert]
    7.John Miskella[Mike McCarthy even though he played at centre could be considered here.]
    8.Dermot Earley[cert]
    9.Seamus Scanlon[cert]
    10.Paul Galvin[cert]
    11.Pierce O Neill[id still pick him but was by far Corks worst player in an All Ireland final which cant be overlooked]
    12.Tadgh Kennelly[close one but if not him id go with Joe Sheridan or Paddy Kelly]
    13.Stephen O Neill[Under pressure from Brogan and Goulding]
    14.Declan O Sullivan[cert]
    15.Colm Cooper[Didnt have a great year but still top scorer so....]

    Galvin POTY[Probably the closest competition in years between all 3 but Galvin gave more than just his footballing ability this season to give him the nod imo]
    Murphy YPOTY[he is the only one nominated for an all star so near a dead cert for YPOTY and they rarely get an all star as well]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    since when was Ryan McMenamin a half-back?

    He played a lot of his football there this year didn't he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    since when was Ryan McMenamin a half-back?
    Since when was he anything though? Don't try and tell me he spends all his time at corner back...
    1.Diarmuid Murphy
    2.Karl Lacey
    3.Justin McMahon
    4.Tom O Sullivan
    5.Tomas O Se
    6.Graham Canty
    7.John Miskella
    8.Dermot Earley
    9.Seamus Scanlo
    10.Paul Galvin
    11.Pierce O Neill
    12.Trevor Mortimer
    13.Stephen O Neill
    14.Declan O Sullivan
    15.Bernard Brogan
    Agree with most of your team but wouldn't have Cooper (not a great year overall, typified by some easy wides against Dublin - and top scorer means nothing when you're a freetaker for a team like Kerry), Kennelly or Shields in. Shields had a very good year but think Justin McMahon will deservedly get it.

    And yeah, Galvin and Murphy for individual awards (thought Kerrigan might get YFOTY but presumably isn't eligible).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Canty for FOTY and Murphy YFOTY. I am tired, will pick a team tomorrow or the next day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭corny


    Declan O’Sullivan or Paul Galvin should be footballer of the year. For his performance against Dublin alone O'Sullivan gets my vote. Tragedy he wasn't even nominated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Gingy


    Am I missing something here? Why is everyone putting Karl Lacey down as a cert? Relegated from div 1, lost in first round of Ulster championship, is hardly All-Star credentials, he's a quality footballer, but I feel that a full-back line of O'Sullivan, Griffin and Shields would be better. Even have Marc O'Se ahead of Lacey.

    And Gooch definitely does not deserve an All-Star this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    As long as Dermot Earley gets one I'll be happy. Good honest footballer this year and if anyone deserves one its him IMO.

    He worked tirelessly and drove his team on and if Cavan had a footballer with half the commitment he has on the pitch I'd be happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    An Citeog wrote: »
    He played a lot of his football there this year didn't he?

    jordan and Davy Harte were Tyrone's half-backs all year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Kenteach


    Jordan and Harte wore 5 and 7 all year, doesn't mean they were half backs all year though, not the way tyrone play! Even still, McMenamon is lucky to be nominated anywhere, nowhere near his best this year. Galvin is a cert, in my book anyway although thats not worth a lot, for player of the year and the nominations for young player make it easier to pick Murphy. As for the individual positions, Earley at centrefield is a must, and the selectors must accomodate both Canty and McCarthy. Two of the stand out players of the year, would be a shame if one missed out on an award. Cooper just hasn't done enough to get a gong this year, with Murphy, O'Sullivan and O'Neill, at least, out performing him from those nominated.
    Usually at least one award comes out of left field. Any chance for Leighton Glynn? Joe Sheridan? Andy Moran?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Royal Seahawk


    One Meath nomination? I may be biased but surely Nigel Crawford deserves one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭robpurf


    suprised nigel crawford hasnt got a nomination he had a great year.ill be suprised if joe sheridan gets in to be honest too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Gingy wrote: »
    And Gooch definitely does not deserve an All-Star this year.

    media hype will have you believe this, but if people actually watched kerry this year, goochs contribution was top notch. just cos he is not scoring from play, does not mean he didnt have a great year. he was poor in the replay against cork, apart from that and possibly the meath game when he was injured, he was excellent in every game. and dont hold the drinking ban against him, Thomas was also dropped and he is up for player of the year.

    top scorer in this years championship, alot from frees, but how many of those were from very scorable positions that he won himself? i.e. to the right of the goals, 21 yards out, cos he was fouled himself.

    Cork - lifted the team with the point of the championship and knocked over 4 frees, 2 of which he was fouled for. when the team needed him in the last 10 minutes, he produced.
    longford - scored 5 points in the first half and played superb stuff, until kerry collapsed.
    Sligo - didnt score much, but had more possession than any other player on the pitch.
    Antrim - came off the bench and lifted the entire team.
    amazing against dublin, i dont know how he didnt get MOM, he was involved in something like 14 scores directly for kerry. i think his performance in this game was the outstanding one of the year.
    Meath - played ok, but was barely able to walk.
    Cork - i though he was superb in the first half, won ball after ball and was fouled nearly every time he got the ball...

    if that is not all star form, i dont know what it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    Ciarán Hyland will get one if there's any justice in the world ... best corner back in the country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,602 ✭✭✭patmac


    Leighton Glynn or Ciaran Hyland as the annual 'player from the minnow county that had a good run in the qualifier' all-star award ala Dessie, O'Connell and O'Hara from the past and the fact that he'd probably deserves it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭dhorgan3


    media hype will have you believe this, but if people actually watched kerry this year, goochs contribution was top notch. just cos he is not scoring from play, does not mean he didnt have a great year. he was poor in the replay against cork, apart from that and possibly the meath game when he was injured, he was excellent in every game. and dont hold the drinking ban against him, Thomas was also dropped and he is up for player of the year.

    top scorer in this years championship, alot from frees, but how many of those were from very scorable positions that he won himself? i.e. to the right of the goals, 21 yards out, cos he was fouled himself.

    Cork - lifted the team with the point of the championship and knocked over 4 frees, 2 of which he was fouled for. when the team needed him in the last 10 minutes, he produced.
    longford - scored 5 points in the first half and played superb stuff, until kerry collapsed.
    Sligo - didnt score much, but had more possession than any other player on the pitch.
    Antrim - came off the bench and lifted the entire team.
    amazing against dublin, i dont know how he didnt get MOM, he was involved in something like 14 scores directly for kerry. i think his performance in this game was the outstanding one of the year.
    Meath - played ok, but was barely able to walk.
    Cork - i though he was superb in the first half, won ball after ball and was fouled nearly every time he got the ball...

    if that is not all star form, i dont know what it

    And u are not biased no :)

    He does not deserve one...he has not been consistent...most of his scores have been from frees and even at that some of them have been questionable frees....there are so many other players form the other 31 counties that have proved consistent and who have delivered...Gooch has not...and thats the realitiy of it IMO :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    patmac wrote: »
    Leighton Glynn or Ciaran Hyland as the annual 'player from the minnow county that had a good run in the qualifier' all-star award ala Dessie, O'Connell and O'Hara from the past and the fact that he'd probably deserves it.


    Ya i know wat u mean bout the traditional one all star for a "minnow county" but does that mean that wicklow wont get more than one even if they deserve them??
    Hyland definetely deserves one and probably Glynn too. I thought their goalkeeper Travers should have got a nomiation too; 4 or 5 clean sheets in a row i think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Gooch over Brogan????

    get real.

    Gooch- top scorer.
    Opening Goal against Dublin.
    Tripped for Peno against Meath.
    Missed Peno against Cork. (granted but he was the one fouled again)
    Came out to the 40 in the final and orchistrated the last two vital points after Declan went off.

    God knows how many scores he made this year and without Star he had to win a lot of primary ball this year himself.

    Gooch has had an excellent year. If it were anyone else they'd be a nailed on star but he is judged against himself and some awesome previous performances. WILL get an all star and he deserves it.

    Shocked Dara didn't get nominated- was excellent in every game. Kennelly didn't start the first half of the year and should not even be in contention imo.

    and is anyone else sick to death of Cluxton getting nominated every year regardless. Granted Kerry would have tattooed the net against Dublin without him but I'm sick to death of him being hyped up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Gingy wrote: »
    Am I missing something here? Why is everyone putting Karl Lacey down as a cert? Relegated from div 1, lost in first round of Ulster championship, is hardly All-Star credentials, he's a quality footballer, but I feel that a full-back line of O'Sullivan, Griffin and Shields would be better. Even have Marc O'Se ahead of Lacey.

    And Gooch definitely does not deserve an All-Star this year.

    I don't think Lacey was about for the League. Even against Antrim, he did ok on Cunningham.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭manutd


    Ian_K wrote: »
    Ciarán Hyland will get one if there's any justice in the world ... best corner back in the country
    +1 we will get it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Gingy


    K-9 wrote: »
    I don't think Lacey was about for the League. Even against Antrim, he did ok on Cunningham.

    I don't feel that doing ok against an Antrim corner forward (All due respect) is All-Star material. As I previously mentioned, I feel O'Sullivan, Griffin, Shields, O'Sé and even Hyland are ahead of him on the pecking order, yet once some pundits picked him, none of them dared upset the apple cart and they all went for him, and he'll probably get one because of that.

    As for Gooch, it's probably right that we are judging him against previous years, but I still don't feel that, apart from Dublin, he contributed enough to get an All-Star in the important games, such as Cork, Meath and Cork. I'd have Stephen O'Neill, Declan O'Sullivan, Tommy Walsh, Bernard Brogan and Michael Murphy ahead of him. Some mightn't have been perfect all year, but they were still better (IMO) than Gooch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Gingy wrote: »
    I don't feel that doing ok against an Antrim corner forward (All due respect) is All-Star material. As I previously mentioned, I feel O'Sullivan, Griffin, Shields, O'Sé and even Hyland are ahead of him on the pecking order, yet once some pundits picked him, none of them dared upset the apple cart and they all went for him, and he'll probably get one because of that.

    As for Gooch, it's probably right that we are judging him against previous years, but I still don't feel that, apart from Dublin, he contributed enough to get an All-Star in the important games, such as Cork, Meath and Cork. I'd have Stephen O'Neill, Declan O'Sullivan, Tommy Walsh, Bernard Brogan and Michael Murphy ahead of him. Some mightn't have been perfect all year, but they were still better (IMO) than Gooch.


    The same Antrim corner forward who scored 0-11 I think against Tyrone in an Ulster Final, so you aren't giving much respect. He kept the 2 Bradleys, Meehan and Goulding quiet.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Ian_K


    1. D. Murphy
    2. C. Hyland
    3. M. Shields
    4. T. O'Sullivan
    5. T. O'Sé
    6. G. Canty
    7. J. Miskella
    8. A. O'Connor
    9. D. Earley
    10. P. Galvin
    11. L. Glynn
    12. P. Kelly
    13. B. Brogan
    14. D. O'Sullivan
    15. M. Murphy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Agus


    Gingy wrote: »
    As for Gooch, it's probably right that we are judging him against previous years, but I still don't feel that, apart from Dublin, he contributed enough to get an All-Star in the important games, such as Cork, Meath and Cork. I'd have Stephen O'Neill, Declan O'Sullivan, Tommy Walsh, Bernard Brogan and Michael Murphy ahead of him. Some mightn't have been perfect all year, but they were still better (IMO) than Gooch.

    Agree, it's not that he wasn't good but IMO he wasn't in the top three of the nominated full-forward line players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    This would be my pick:

    1. Diarmuid Murphy (Kerry)

    2. Karl Lacey (Donegal)
    3. Tommy Griffin (Kerry)
    4. Tom O'Sullivan (Kerry)

    5. Tomas O'Se (Kerry)
    6. Mike McCarthy Kerry)
    7. John Miskella (Cork)

    8. Dermot Earley (Kildare)
    9. Alan O'Connor (Cork)

    10. Paul Galvin (Kerry)
    11. Leighton Glynn (Wicklow)
    12. James Kavanagh (Kildare)

    13. Bernard Brogan (Dublin)
    14. Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry)
    15. Tommy Walsh (Kerry)

    Kerry 8
    Cork 2
    Kildare 2
    Dublin 1
    Wicklow 1
    Donegal 1

    8 for Kerry probably seems a bit excessive and realistically they'll hardly get 8 (champions usually get either 6 or 7), but that's the way I see it.

    Galway got no nomination at all and being honest we didn't deserve any either. A bad year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    and is anyone else sick to death of Cluxton getting nominated every year regardless

    +1

    I've been complaining about this for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Am i the only one that thinks Michael Shields can go from very good to very bad in a short space of time? He was fantastic against Kerry in Munster both days, but poor enough against Limerick in the final. Murphy gave him the run around against Donegal, but he recovered and marshalled Stephen O'Neill very well in the semi. He was nothing more than average in the final. I'd put Tom O'Sullivan and Justin McMahon ahead of him. Certainly in terms of consistency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    grenache wrote: »
    Am i the only one that thinks Michael Shields can go from very good to very bad in a short space of time? He was fantastic against Kerry in Munster both days, but poor enough against Limerick in the final. Murphy gave him the run around against Donegal, but he recovered and marshalled Stephen O'Neill very well in the semi. He was nothing more than average in the final. I'd put Tom O'Sullivan and Justin McMahon ahead of him. Certainly in terms of consistency.

    I didn't even think he was that great against Kerry tbh.

    When Tommy Walsh was on the field he one well over his fair share of ball that went in to him like.

    I wouldn't really rate Shields at all tbh and I'd expect him to be well beaten most days by any top class full forward...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭jackcee


    grenache wrote: »
    Am i the only one that thinks Michael Shields can go from very good to very bad in a short space of time? He was fantastic against Kerry in Munster both days, but poor enough against Limerick in the final. Murphy gave him the run around against Donegal, but he recovered and marshalled Stephen O'Neill very well in the semi. He was nothing more than average in the final. I'd put Tom O'Sullivan and Justin McMahon ahead of him. Certainly in terms of consistency.


    He was'nt marking Stephen O'Neill.
    Anthony Lynch was on that mission - and got completely cleaned out.
    IMO Shields is not remotely close to being a full-back.
    He did very well against Tommy Walsh in the replayed Munster Final - but Walsh should'nt even have been on the pitch, being only on one leg.

    Maybe Shields would make a top class corner-back, in time.
    At the moment, he is a top class athletic player - not a great footballer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭jackcee


    Gooch over Brogan????



    and is anyone else sick to death of Cluxton getting nominated every year regardless. Granted Kerry would have tattooed the net against Dublin without him but I'm sick to death of him being hyped up


    In fairness, what could Cluxton have done any better this year???
    He played like the top class Keeper that he is all year. And against Kerry, he was superb. If any other County reached the Quarter Finals with a Keeper playing such an influential role - and then to top out his season with the best Keeper display of the year against Kerry - he would be lauded to the skies. And rightly so. I think Cluxton is in with a real shout of an All-Star this year. The only opposition he has is Murphy from Kerry. So I'm sorry if you are sick to death - but he is well deserving of his nomination.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭jackcee


    And Gooch definitely does not deserve an All-Star this year.[/quote]

    Ah Janey Mack.!!!!!!!!

    "Definitely"??????????????

    You sound like that Mayo guy on the Sunday Game. The guy with the pursed lips and the bile. Cant remember his name - handy corner-forward in his day. Excels in faint praise.

    Before the Kerry match, I tried to pin my hopes on the media boys who started on Cooper not scoring from play etc., etc..
    But I have a long memory - and I remembered a few years ago (the year his Father died) the media boys trying to degrade the Gooch with the same ould guff. At the time, a very old experienced mucker of mine told me how Cooper turned Canty inside out in a replay in Cork (which Cork won), sprayed the ball around and shaved and hit the post a few times. The papers only highlighted that he was held scoreless. Of course, he finished up in a blaze of glory with another All-Star to his name.

    So I tried to hope - without any conviction. And I was right. The media boys got the Dublin/Kerry game so wrong that they tried to brush it under the carpet. Also (at that time), Tyrone were the only act in town. Later, Cork became the only act in town. To maintain the integrity of the line, the Kerry match had to be devalued. In the process, Cooper's star turn was dismissed as not relevant. Such nonsense.

    Any of the Dublin players will tell you that Kerry just stormed past them that day. On the day, they would have done the same to any other team in the country. The tormentor-in-chief - Gooch. That was the outstanding display of skill this year - and I am not even talking about his scores. His overall game that day was just at a different level - every move showing a football brain at it's peak. If you saw a better overall performance this year, I would love to hear about it.

    In the Final, I was near the half-way line in the Cussack. When Kennelly went off, Cooper came out around Centre-Forward and just orchestrated everything from there on. His vision and passing was just at a different level. There was one ball he won near the Cussack side and he curled a 40 foot perfect pass to Donaghy, through a forest of Cork players. Even with my perfect vantage point, I could not see what he was trying to do when he hit the pass. Pure vision, confidence and execution. That pass will live long in my memory.

    Even the faint praise merchants on the Sunday Game acknowledged that his point in Killarney with half the Cork team hanging out of him, would be difficult to better as "score of the year".

    When you use the word "definitely", the inference is that there is a queue of better players ahead of him. I would love to see them - because I love watching quality players.

    Bernard Brogan is a fantastic player - his display in the Leinster Final was just out of the top drawer. He will win a fistful of All-Stars - but even he is not operating at the same level as Gooch. Just one example.

    The instant gratification boys in the media get bored if the Gooches of this world do not provide them with the sexy stuff that they want - the day, he did do the sexy bit, it just did'nt suit them because they were geared for a Dublin win - and then went overboard in their villification of what will prove to be a good Dublin team.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭dhorgan3


    He deserves a nomination but not an all star...and that is DEFINITE...

    I mentioned consistency...he hasnt been consistent....he didnt get a sniff of the ball against cork in the replay...didnt feature either in the qualifiers which kerry poxed there way through...missed an easy score in front of the posts in the final....


    We are speaking of players who proved themselves THIS season...not PAST seasons


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭jackcee


    dhorgan3 wrote: »
    He deserves a nomination but not an all star...and that is DEFINITE...

    I mentioned consistency...he hasnt been consistent....he didnt get a sniff of the ball against cork in the replay...didnt feature either in the qualifiers which kerry poxed there way through...missed an easy score in front of the posts in the final....


    We are speaking of players who proved themselves THIS season...not PAST seasons

    I am speaking about this season.

    And he has been consistent. You say he did'nt get a "sniff" of the ball against Cork in the replay. There was'nt one decent ball played into his zone all through the match.

    And your assertion that he "did'nt feature either in the the qualifiers" is so completely off the wall, that you either did not see any of those games or you simply have an agenda about Cooper. He was at his brilliant best against Longford - in the second half, the ball barely passed the halfway line. And THAT is definite.

    Name one player that could present the masterclass he produced against us in the Quarter-Final. I used the word "could" advisedly - because nobody else came close to that performance this year. Any other player producing a performance like that would be in the running for POTY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Hyland kept Dessie Dolan fairly quiet, same with Seanie Johnson, Bennie Coulter and John Doyle, and some of them scoreless too. He was fairly anonymous against Fermanagh only cos he had nothing to do. Can't remember against Longford, but I don't think he had a bad game there, so six good or better games in a season - All the kerry boys had an off day at least once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    so anybody like to have one last guess before they are announced?

    i think kerry will definately get the following 7 -

    1 - murphy
    2 - sullivan
    5 - thomas o shea
    8/9 - scanlon
    10 - galvin
    12 - kennelly
    14 declan sullivan

    i think that could be our lot.

    can see one or 2 surprises in it tonight.
    edit, just realised my team is not on this thread, so will add in -

    3 -shields , 4 lacey, 6 canty, 7 miskella, 8 early, 11 pierse o neill, 13 o neill, 14 declan sullivan 15 brogan.

    id be pretty sure of getting bout 13 of that right,

    so, kerry 7
    donegal 1
    cork 4
    tyrone 1
    dublin 1
    kildare 1


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Goalkeeper: Diarmuid Murphy (Kerry),

    Full Backs: Tom O'Sullivan (Kerry), Michael Shields (Cork), Karl Lacey (Donegal),

    Half Backs: Graham Canty (Cork), John Miskella (Cork), Tomas Ó Sé (Kerry),

    Midfield: Dermot Earley (Kildare), Séamus Scanlon (Kerry)

    Half Forwards: Paul Galvin (Kerry), Tadhg Kennelly (Kerry), Pearse O'Neill (Cork),

    Full Forwards: Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry), Daniel Goulding (Cork), Stephen O'Neill (Tyrone)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭roverjoyce


    What the hell
    why isnt Tommy walsh on this team?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    where's paul galvin's ma to fix his tie and give him a clip on the ear to smarten himself up for a black tie ceremony?!!
    player of the year though. good man!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    1.Diarmuid Murphy[cert]
    2.Karl Lacey[Ciaran Hyland could push him here]
    3.Michael Sheilds[cert]
    4.Tom O Sullivan[cert]
    5.Tomas O Se[cert]
    6.Graham Canty[cert]
    7.John Miskella[Mike McCarthy even though he played at centre could be considered here.]
    8.Dermot Earley[cert]
    9.Seamus Scanlon[cert]
    10.Paul Galvin[cert]
    11.Pierce O Neill[id still pick him but was by far Corks worst player in an All Ireland final which cant be overlooked]
    12.Tadgh Kennelly[close one but if not him id go with Joe Sheridan or Paddy Kelly]
    13.Stephen O Neill[Under pressure from Brogan and Goulding]
    14.Declan O Sullivan[cert]
    15.Colm Cooper[Didnt have a great year but still top scorer so....]

    Galvin POTY[Probably the closest competition in years between all 3 but Galvin gave more than just his footballing ability this season to give him the nod imo]
    Murphy YPOTY[he is the only one nominated for an all star so near a dead cert for YPOTY and they rarely get an all star as well]

    I think i was closer than most!:D Goulding better than Cooper this year?Im not a huge fan of Cooper but still think he was better than Goulding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    goulding is a surprise i must say. apart from that, i was pretty much spot on. delighted fot tadhg, great end to the year, being crowned captain for next year, in 2 weeks time would top it all off.

    though himself, paul, gooch, declan, and a few more nominees wont be able to enjoy themsleves properly tonight, with big club games on sunday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭helpisontheway


    goulding is a surprise i must say. apart from that, i was pretty much spot on. delighted fot tadhg, great end to the year, being crowned captain for next year, in 2 weeks time would top it all off.

    though himself, paul, gooch, declan, and a few more nominees wont be able to enjoy themsleves properly tonight, with big club games on sunday.
    What are the chances of Galvin being named captain again if Feale Rangers win?:D
    I predict a Feale Rangers/Crokes final with Feale Rangers taking the title,Eamon Fitzmaurice MOTM and Tadgh to bring home Sam as captain in 2010!:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


    Mike McCarty should of got an All-star IMO. I'm not saying Canty doesn't deserve it, I think they both should of got one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    What are the chances of Galvin being named captain again if Feale Rangers win?:D
    I predict a Feale Rangers/Crokes final with Feale Rangers taking the title,Eamon Fitzmaurice MOTM and Tadgh to bring home Sam as captain in 2010!:cool:

    Colm Cooper will captain Kerry next year, Crokes are on fire, Gooch scored 3-7 out of 5-17 to 3-8 against St. Brendans last weekend, the man is a genius and still got no all-star sickening:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    karl lacey ahead of marc o'se is the only really questionable one, that said lacey is a serious defender and i certainly would not begrudge him it.
    people always complain about the all-stars though, it is a very difficult thing to do, selecting the top 15 players of the year.
    any player who gets the all-star deserves the recognition as they didnt get it for being a poor player.
    delighted for goulding, don't think many people realise he was the top scorer from play in the championship (an accolade that really should get the most recognition from a forward perspective)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    even though im a cork fan and love Canty as a player, Micheal McCarthy deserved one. i was thinking it would be a case of put canty on the wing and McCarthy Centre so both would get it plus Canty is a good wing-back anyway. Kerry's most important player this year was him IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭soundsham


    aDeener wrote: »
    karl lacey ahead of marc o'se is the only really questionable one, that said lacey is a serious defender and i certainly would not begrudge him it.
    people always complain about the all-stars though, it is a very difficult thing to do, selecting the top 15 players of the year.
    any player who gets the all-star deserves the recognition as they didnt get it for being a poor player.
    delighted for goulding, don't think many people realise he was the top scorer from play in the championship (an accolade that really should get the most recognition from a forward perspective)

    +1 on goulding
    also I suppose 1 or 2 players may just get the nod if they've had a good league run............maybe:confused:
    criteria is probably 6-8 off ai champs,3-5 runner ups 1 or 2 semi finalists and the odd handy league performer........does anyone know....
    obviously it's weighted towards semi's on..


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