Question for "fixie" riders, hipsters, fakengers, whatever

Harrybelafonte

Any of you guys thinking of starting up bike polo meets or night runs etc? I know a group are doing "fixie tricks" by the canal, but figure bike polo might be a bit more interesting for some.

Caroline_ie

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Any of you guys thinking of starting up bike polo meets or night runs etc? I know a group are doing "fixie tricks" by the canal, but figure bike polo might be a bit more interesting for some.

have you ever seen bike polo? Hardly requires any fitness at all.;)

i think a few people on this forum are part of the team taht trains in the Ph Park ( Stein?Keenan?)

flickerx

I'd be up for polo, but only on the tarmac, not grass.

Post it up on dublinfgss.com, you might get some responses there too.

flickerx

And please stop using the word hipster in that context.

niceonetom

I'm not letting anyone near my bike with a hammer.

Vélo

niceonetom wrote: »

I'm not letting anyone near my bike with a hammer.

It might uglify it even more.

Caroline_ie

flickerx wrote: »

And please stop using the word hipster in that context.

you stop with that that bread, does you da own a bakery or something?

Chips Lovell

niceonetom wrote: »

I'm not letting anyone near my bike with a hammer.

It's a mallet.

niceonetom

el tonto wrote: »

It's a mallet.

tomayto tomahto.

flickerx

Caroline_ie wrote: »

you stop with that that bread, does you da own a bakery or something?

When people stop using words like "hipster" and "douchebag", then I'll stop with the Irish Pride bread.

petethedrummer

flickerx wrote: »

When people stop using words like "hipster" and "douchebag", then I'll stop with the Irish Pride bread.

Why dont you just speak Irish?

Chips Lovell

Hipsteoir: An Irish solution to an Irish problem.

Vélo

el tonto wrote: »

Hipsteoir: An Irish solution to an Irish problem.

Don't forget Douchemála

flickerx

petethedrummer wrote: »

Why dont you just speak Irish?

800 years of oppression, etc.

Caroline_ie

Le Hipsteur
El Hipstor
Das Hipstarch

Chips Lovell

Vélo wrote: »

Don't forget Douchemála

Surely it should be mala douche?

Chips Lovell

Caroline_ie wrote: »

Le Hipsteur
El Hipstero
Das Hipstarch

FYP

Vélo

el tonto wrote: »

Surely it should be mala douche?

You're probably correct. I'm not proud of the fact I know little about my native tongue.

flickerx

For years, in Dublin, it was called a "geebag".
I dont see why people shouldnt call other people this.

Apart from the obvious, as in you should be nice to people.

niceonetom

flickerx wrote: »

When people stop using words like "hipster" and "douchebag", then I'll stop with the Irish Pride bread.

Oh, get over it. Hipster is simply the most useful and accurate word to use. If I want a word that means person-who-probably-wears-skinny-jeans-and-rides-a-fixie hipster is the term.

Do you insist that we give up the words hippy, wigger, ted, raver, goth etc etc and, because of some fragile sense of national identity, call them ludramáns, gombeens, loolas, mickydazzlers and gob****es? Those are great words - unfortunately they already have meanings, and they're not the ones we need.

Language is plastic.

Chips Lovell

Vélo wrote: »

You're probably correct. I'm not proud of the fact I know little about my native tongue.

I don't know about you, but English is my native tongue.

Micilin Muc

el tonto wrote: »

Surely it should be mala douche?

Both are acceptable. Douchemála as one word, and mála douche as two seperate words.

Maybe this bike polo could be renamed 'hurling on bikes' so it'll seem more indigenous. Rothmánaíocht.

Caroline_ie

flickerx wrote: »

For years, in Dublin, it was called a "geebag".
I dont see why people shouldnt call other people this.

But Geebag is a very serious HipHop artist now ... and british. here is your revenge if you want one.

flickerx

niceonetom wrote: »

Language is plastic.

Do you mean elastic there?
I'm not sure what you mean by plastic.

Vélo

flickerx wrote: »

For years, in Dublin, it was called a "geebag".
I dont see why people shouldnt call other people this.

Apart from the obvious, as in you should be nice to people.

Geebag = Mála Faighin

Harrybelafonte

No offence flickerx but I knew you'd pick on it so I used every term I could think of, I left out forumenger cos I can't pronounce it. Anyway the Irish is "cromach".

Can we get back on topic? I'd definitely like to do some night runs, I wouldn't be riding fixed, but hopefully you'll be open to the SS and I too would prefer tarmac polo, give me an excuse to build a new bike and a load of mallets, my bamboo needs harvesting

petethedrummer

flickerx wrote: »

800 years of oppression, etc.

you learned it in school.

flickerx

niceonetom wrote: »

because of some fragile sense of national identity

Well, it has nothing to do with national identity really - last time I checked, the Minister for Arts Culture & Gaeltacht wasnt on a mission to the US to try to import slang terms from here such as geebag, feckin eejit, etc. And also I guess I'm half joking, half serious. But I guess I am interested in the etymology of Irish slang, and I think its quite a nice little link to the past. What irritates me is people using American slang terms on internet forums, picked up from magazines and blogs from over there, that they would never say in the real world. I guess it just slightly destroys a healthy local slang.

BTW I hope people dont think I'm sort some of rabid, close-the-borders, right wing, Blueshirt, Immigration Control Platform-type. Last thing on earth. I think there should be an open border into Ireland for anyone that wants to come here, regardless of nationality, like what was in the USA years ago, but thats a much longer discussion, not for the cycling forum.

niceonetom

flickerx wrote: »

Do you mean elastic there?
I'm not sure what you mean by plastic.

I mean plastic. Fictile. Pliant. Malleable. Capable of being modeled and molded.

plaisteach is you prefer.

I think elastic implys that, while it can be reshaped, it would tend to go back to it's previous form so I'll stick with plastic.

/offtopic douchbaggery.

flickerx

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Can we get back on topic? I'd definitely like to do some night runs, I wouldn't be riding fixed, but hopefully you'll be open to the SS and I too would prefer tarmac polo, give me an excuse to build a new bike and a load of mallets, my bamboo needs harvesting

See my previous post about being open to the SS.
Oh, you mean Single Speed, right...
Yes, of course.

I'd love to do some fast night cycling definitely, but trying to get people to even come out on their bikes for rides at more sociable hours has been a bit of an uphill struggle. Part of me wonders if people actually ride their bikes at all, or just talk about making them and doing them up. If we can get some sort of well attended regular ride going, then I think we can branch into the night spins.

Someone on dublinfgss was talking before about organising hardcourt polo. But where could we play? Somewhere that would have an enclosed border at ground level to stop the ball going out - I cant think of a single place in town that would be suitable.

tomasrojo

flickerx wrote: »

Do you mean elastic there?
I'm not sure what you mean by plastic.

Plastic: capable of being moulded or modelled

The range of materials made from petrochemicals are known as "plastics" because they are malleable during manufacture, though not afterwards.

Caroline_ie

language plastic = having lived in canada you shoudl be well used to it when i came back after 4 years both my french and english had melted into one, with a bit of everything else and whoever you spoke to there, everyone could understand me and i could understand everyone.

As for the fixed spins, gatherings etc, I think there are issues with 'crowds' ... you seem to have a identity crisis maybe.

- Fakenger/exenger/messenger etc go out among themselves and alcohol,
- the under teen/23's cool kids, who hang out and do tricks
- the roadies riding fixed for comfort commuting
- those riding fixed with lycra for fitness and training
- ... and you

...................Tá brón orm

Harrybelafonte

flickerx wrote: »

See my previous post about being open to the SS.
Oh, you mean Single Speed, right...
Yes, of course.

I'd love to do some fast night cycling definitely, but trying to get people to even come out on their bikes for rides at more sociable hours has been a bit of an uphill struggle. Part of me wonders if people actually ride their bikes at all, or just talk about making them and doing them up. If we can get some sort of well attended regular ride going, then I think we can branch into the night spins.

Someone on dublinfgss was talking before about organising hardcourt polo. But where could we play? Somewhere that would have an enclosed border at ground level to stop the ball going out - I cant think of a single place in town that would be suitable.

I'm not really one to talk. My only free time is Sunday and Monday evenings. When you consider how few they manage to get together in London, it's no surprise a place this small has problems getting numbers together. Though a night time jaunt out the coast road to Killiney sounds nice

Harrybelafonte

Caroline_ie wrote: »

language plastic = having lived in canada you shoudl be well used to it when i came back after 4 years both my french and english had melted into one, with a bit of everything else and whoever you spoke to there, everyone could understand me and i could understand everyone.

As for the fixed spins, gatherings etc, I think there are issues with 'crowds' ... you seem to have a identity crisis maybe.

- Fakenger/exenger/messenger etc go out among themselves and alcohol, - the under teen/23's cool kids, who hang out and do tricks
- the roadies riding fixed for comfort commuting
- those riding fixed with lycra for fitness and training
- ... and you

...................Tá brón orm

I get the feeling fg/ss people aren't really going to see eye-to-eye about a lot of things and I'm usually not one for playing well in groups, but I thought these two activities might be something we'd all have a laugh doing.

Chips Lovell

So all of a sudden, every fashion/trend/fad that washes up on our shores now has to have it's own uniquely Irish name? I find your views interesting and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Harrybelafonte

Oh God, what have I started

TinyExplosions

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Oh God, what have I started

Try dublinfgss.com -you may find less debate there :P

niceonetom

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Try dublinfgss.com -you may find less debate there :P

SPLITTER!

flickerx

Caroline_ie wrote: »

As for the fixed spins, gatherings etc, I think there are issues with 'crowds' ... you seem to have a identity crisis maybe.

- Fakenger/exenger/messenger etc go out among themselves and alcohol,
- the under teen/23's cool kids, who hang out and do tricks
- the roadies riding fixed for comfort commuting
- those riding fixed with lycra for fitness and training
- ... and you

...................Tá brón orm

I wouldnt say I'm quite out on a solo limb, there's three or four other regulars who are up for the spins (sans lycra). But of course not everyone can go every week, so if half of three regular riders cant come, that leaves only one and a half riders available, which is very messy indeed.

IMHO to get a decent buzz going for the rides, you need a pool of a dozen or so who'll come out when they can. Maybe there just isnt the interest in it, yet, although the dublinfgss site seems to be growing regularly. I've called a few rides, some have worked, some havent. I'd like to think that with the growth of the site, more people will come out in real life for the spins. I cant see the point of having an internet forum about cycling where people meet up, if it doesnt translate into cycling in the real world.

I guess I cant complain about people not wanting to go on longer fixed spins. I have zero interest in doing tricks, and couldnt be bothered hanging around Grand Canal Square for a couple of hours trying to get things right. Oh I would like to be able to do a wheelie for a long time, but thats about it.

As for the alcohol thing, I'm always on for that, regardless.

Chips Lovell

SHILL!:p

TinyExplosions

niceonetom wrote: »

SPLITTER!

Yup, that's me.... don't worry though, my heart is still on the road.... TinyExplosions will be making a return soon....

Chips Lovell

TinyExplosions wrote: »

TinyExplosions will be making a return soon....

Good. It's been too long. Knee OK?

TinyExplosions

el tonto wrote: »

Good. It's been too long. Knee OK?

I'd say it's about 80-90% now... been too fecking long really -I'll be well out the back for the first few spins

ROK ON

"Guess who's back, back again ..."

Welcome back Tiny.

Harrybelafonte

TinyExplosions wrote: »

Try dublinfgss.com -you may find less debate there :P

I think this debate actually started over there

So, if there were a weekly announcement of a ride and people signed up, it could be determined if teh ride was viable?

By the sounds of it the polo would end up being one-on-one

Lumen

flickerx wrote: »

I'd love to do some fast night cycling definitely, but trying to get people to even come out on their bikes for rides at more sociable hours has been a bit of an uphill struggle. Part of me wonders if people actually ride their bikes at all, or just talk about making them and doing them up. If we can get some sort of well attended regular ride going, then I think we can branch into the night spins.

I was cycling offroad in Phoenix Park at 4am this morning. Where were you? Ha!

The deer were a bit surprised that I was cycling through their bedroom, and I got a bit spooked when I realized that the stags could kill me to death if they weren't scaredy prey animals. I could have done with a Top Tube Mounted War Hammer (TTMWH), or whatever one uses for bike polo.

Anyway, I'm up for it, just as soon as I get some sleep.

I'd prefer off-road, 'cos that's how polo is supposed to be done, and I have a good choice of bikes for that, whereas I'm all out of skinny tyred steel hipster fixie things.

ROK ON

Lumen wrote: »

The deer were a bit surprised that I was cycling through their bedroom, and I got a bit spooked when I realized that the stags could kill me to death if they weren't scaredy prey animals. I could have done with a Top Tube Mounted War Hammer (TTMWH), or whatever one uses for bike polo.

Firstly, you are crazy enough to actually do this. But you should know, that we are in the middle of deer rutting season - they (the stags) can become pretty agressive around this time of year. Your should aim to steer clear of them. I was travelling from Kenmare to Killarney (in the car two weeks back) and a stag as big as a horse just refused to get out of my way on the road (pretty inusual behavour for a deer). Eventually had to beep horn and nudge fwd to get him to move.
Pretty scary at 5.30am in the morning.

But then, I like venision (and its reasonbly good for you).

Lumen

ROK ON wrote: »

I was travelling from Kenmare to Killarney (in the car two weeks back) and a stag as big as a horse just refused to get out of my way on the road (pretty inusual behavour for a deer).

Maybe it was a horse on a stag do.

Thanks for the advice, I'll stay clear of the spikey ones. I was just commuting home (homework was late) and thought I'd use the opportunity.

Chips Lovell

Be careful out there folks. The last thing we need is more rutting season related injuries.

Vélo

Harrybelafonte

Did night orienteering in the park once. Very scary.

That's an idea though, night run through the park??