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Is it possibel to pick a team that would be a better footballing side than barcelona

  • 21-09-2009 1:59pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    Im not sure it is even if you could pick from all players playing today because I think messi,iniesta and xavi are the 3 best players at retaining possession in the world today but ill have a go anyway


    Maicon vidic rio evra

    mascherano

    fabregas arshavin

    ronaldo ribery

    Drogba


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Big Knox


    Your obviously an Arsenal supportal. Fabregas and Arshavin??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    wat on gods green earth would you put Vidic in that side?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    Big Knox wrote: »
    Your obviously an Arsenal supportal. Fabregas and Arshavin??

    im not actually, support manunited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Vidic should not be a side that is being picked for its footballing abilities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭Idu


    Better team or better footballing side? You have a few suspect choices if it's the latter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    this team from the premier last year looks a nice side footballing wise

    johnson-rio-agger-evra
    ronaldo-gerrard-alonso-fabregas
    torres-arshavin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭goddevil


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Vidic should not be a side that is being picked for its footballing abilities.

    What would you have a CB do? Vidic is the best in his position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Vidic should not be a side that is being picked for its footballing abilities.

    Its really from midfield up that matters


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    A thinly veiled dream 11 thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    but he is not the best footballing centre half around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭stevoslice


    not sure they'd be much use without a goalkeeper...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Carvalho for best footballing defender in the world ahead of vidic in this team every day of the week and also one of the best defenders around IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    I would also be interested in what players past and present you could add to the current barca team that would make them better, I would replace toure with Makelele and Ibrahimovic with Drogba


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    gavredking wrote: »
    Carvalho for best footballing defender in the world ahead of vidic in this team every day of the week and also one of the best defenders around IMO.

    agreed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭goddevil


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    but he is not the best footballing centre half around.

    But Vidic is the kind of player that will let your team play football by breaking up the opposition. Not to mention his ability in the air. If you want your team to play flowing football, then you must have someone in your team to do the dirty work. Vidic is the man for that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Im not sure it is even if you could pick from all players playing today because I think messi,iniesta and xavi are the 3 best players at retaining possession in the world today but ill have a go anyway


    Maicon vidic rio evra

    mascherano

    fabregas arshavin

    ronaldo ribery

    Drogba

    Did they play yesterday? How many did they concede? Those are the defenders you'd pick out of all the world? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭goddevil


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Did they play yesterday? How many did they concede? Those are the defenders you'd pick out of all the world? :eek:

    Do you wanna know how much they conceded throughout last season? One bad day out means nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    goddevil wrote: »
    Do you wanna know how much they conceded throughout last season? One bad day out means nothing.

    they conceded the exact same amount as Chelsea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭curry-muff


    One bad day and you are gona claim that vidic and rio arent the best centre back pairing in the world, and that evra isnt one of the best left backs int he word either :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭goddevil


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    they conceded the exact same amount as Chelsea.
    But they created a new record in the process. And why does chelsea have to come in this anyway? We are talking about individuals who'd go well in a team. I rate chelsea's defense very highly.IMO any of Terry, Vidic, Rio or Carvalho can make a world XI and the team wouldn't suffer. But Vidic is the best of the lot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    but he is not the best footballing centre half around.

    You can't play with two "Footballing" centre halfs. You need one bruiser, stick-the-head anywhere type, and one who can play football, and start passing movements from deep.

    Vidic is the best "bruiser" type playing in the EPL at the moment.

    Although, Vermaelen looks to be a very good hybrid of the two, going on performances this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Buffon
    Maicon Vidic Ferdinand Evra
    Ronaldo Lampard Alonso Gerrard
    Torres Villa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,468 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    I would also be interested in what players past and present you could add to the current barca team that would make them better,

    maldini, baresi, platini, maradona, pele, ronaldo (brazilian).

    to name a few.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Des wrote: »
    You can't play with two "Footballing" centre halfs. You need one bruiser, stick-the-head anywhere type, and one who can play football, and start passing movements from deep.

    Vidic is the best "bruiser" type playing in the EPL at the moment.

    Although, Vermaelen looks to be a very good hybrid of the two, going on performances this season.

    you don't think Carvalho & Fedinand could play together?

    or Fedinand & Gallas? Ferdinand & Agger?

    all better footballing centre halves than vidic.

    personally i think they could.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Nope, I don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    you don't think Carvalho & Fedinand could play together?

    or Fedinand & Gallas? Ferdinand & Agger?

    all better footballing centre halves than vidic.

    personally i think they could.

    I agree, my 1st choice would be Carvalho and insert other world class defender here.

    IMO carvlho has a perfect package of tough defending mixed with great reading of the game and a willingness to get forward passed the midifeld when he can.

    Carvalho ftw.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    thebhoy wrote: »
    not sure they'd be much use without a goalkeeper...
    :D

    Has to be Casillas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    Buffon
    Maicon Vidic Ferdinand Evra
    Ronaldo Lampard Alonso Gerrard
    Torres Villa

    That team would be domintaed by barce, you need 5 in midfield against them and 2 out and out strikers is a big no no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭goddevil


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    you don't think Carvalho & Fedinand could play together?

    or Fedinand & Gallas? Ferdinand & Agger?

    all better footballing centre halves than vidic.

    personally i think they could.

    But none of those combinations will be as effective as Vidic - Rio or Carvalho-Vidic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Victor McDade


    I would also be interested in what players past and present you could add to the current barca team that would make them better

    Van Basten
    Best player in the world at the time, career ruined by injuries. (Imagine him and Romario up front, the other 9 players are largely irrelevant :-D)

    Roy Keane
    Whatever your opinion of him, he was a machine.

    (Also, I'm not saying he would definitely have improved this current team, but I would love to have seen Alan Shearer playing abroad for a few years)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 868 ✭✭✭tdv


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    this team from the premier last year looks a nice side footballing wise

    johnson-rio-agger-evra
    ronaldo-gerrard-alonso-fabregas
    torres-arshavin

    Ronaldo has never been good at reataing possesion or keeping hold of the ball.

    And no, you could not make a better footballing side than Barcelonas in term of keeping keeping possesion & moving the ball because no other team has Xavi in it & nobody can do what Xavi dose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    It may not beat them footballing wise but this team would beat them

    Schmeichel

    Cafu vidic stam maldini

    Makele

    Keane Zidane

    Ronaldo(new) Ronaldionho


    Ronaldo(old)


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Layne Purring Shortchange


    It may not beat them footballing wise but this team would beat them

    Schmeichel

    Cafu vidic stam maldini

    Makele

    Keane Zidane

    Ronaldo(new) Ronaldionho


    Ronaldo(old)

    You dont need to go old to get a team that would beat them.

    Reina
    Johnson-Carvalho-Vidic-Evra
    Gerrard--Fabregas-Lampard
    Ronaldo--Torres--Ribery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭goddevil


    You dont need to go old to get a team that would beat them.

    Reina
    Johnson-Carvalho-Vidic-Evra
    Gerrard--Fabregas-Lampard
    Ronaldo--Torres--Ribery

    Reina? Is he the best GK atm? I'll say Buffon, Casillas and even Given would come ahead of him...

    The midfield needs someone like Essien or a fit Hargreaves


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭eddiehead


    It may not beat them footballing wise but this team would beat them

    Schmeichel

    Cafu vidic stam maldini

    Makele

    Keane Zidane

    Ronaldo(new) Ronaldionho


    Ronaldo(old)

    It's hard to put together a side that would be better than them in term's of footballing ability, but they are certainly beatable, you don't need to put together a team of the best players of the past 10 year's:confused:, remember it took a miracle for them to get past Chelsea last year


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭Leixlip_Red


    Casillas
    Sergio Ramos - Pepe - Raul Albiol - Marcello
    Lass Diara - Xabi Alonso
    Ronaldo - Kaka
    Benzima - Higuain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    Buffon

    Ramos, Carvalhio, Ferdinand, Evra

    Silva, Alonso, Essien, Ribery

    Torres, Rooney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,427 ✭✭✭✭8-10



    Stuy

    Krol
    Blankenburg

    ---Suurbier
    Hulshoff

    Haan
    Neeskens

    Mühren
    Keizer

    Cruijff

    Swart

    I realise it looks like a complicated 4-2-4 formation but in reality it was total football. If you watch old videos of that attacking 4 (6) you'll see football played that Barca today could only dream of.

    I really don't want to take away from the current Barca team because they do play astonishingly good football at times but if you honestly want to see a team that gives them a run for their money football-wise, watch the above lineup for Ajax in the 1972 European Cup Final v Inter....beautiful.


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Layne Purring Shortchange


    goddevil wrote: »
    Reina? Is he the best GK atm? I'll say Buffon, Casillas and even Given would come ahead of him...

    The midfield needs someone like Essien or a fit Hargreaves


    Yeah,you could stick Buffon or Casillas in there alright.

    I only selected Reina because I was trying to make it up with prem players but got stuck in the attack.

    Tbh anyone is going to be better than Valdes and the above defence dominates the Barca defence also,whatever about attacking wise you could make it extremely hard for them to score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭laoisforliam


    Footballing side

    Reina

    Maicon
    Bougherra
    Carvalho
    Clichy


    robben
    Wilshire
    Alonso
    Ribery


    Villa
    jovetic


    Wouldnt beat anyone but would play somer serious football


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Smegball


    The current Madrid team will give it a run for its money for sure...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    improbab-luh, but not impossib-bluh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Mascherano should not be in a side that is being picked for its footballing abilities.

    Fixed.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 868 ✭✭✭tdv


    Smegball wrote: »
    The current Madrid team will give it a run for its money for sure...

    Havent really looked like doing it so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    I would also be interested in what players past and present you could add to the current barca team that would make them better, I would replace toure with Makelele and Ibrahimovic with Drogba

    Pretty long list mate in fairness.

    Maradona, Pele, Puskas, Georgie Best, Duncan Edwards, Beckenbauer, old Ronaldo, Platini, Maldini, Baresi, di Stefano, Eusebio, Roy Keane, Zidane etc etc etc for pages and pages


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    The lack of Carvalho and Essien in this thread is loltastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭bUILDERtHEbOB



    Given

    Dunne---St. Ledger
    O'Shea
    Kilbane
    Andy Reid
    McGeady
    Hunt
    Keane---Doyle---Duff

    Totally, the team would just automatically evolve around his every touch in a clockwise and counter clockwise plethora of passing and keeping the ball high up in the oppositions half because all Irish teams should be doing their stuff like that and Andy Reid is the greatest passer of a ball bar Kaka and sure, it'd be bleedin' better than the midfield we have now because at least we'd have someone bleedin' in there wha'?

    Coat. Actually. Bed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD



    Given

    Dunne---St. Ledger
    O'Shea
    Kilbane
    Andy Reid
    McGeady
    Hunt
    Keane---Doyle---Duff

    Totally, the team would just automatically evolve around his every touch in a clockwise and counter clockwise plethora of passing and keeping the ball high up in the oppositions half because all Irish teams should be doing their stuff like that and Andy Reid is the greatest passer of a ball bar Kaka and sure, it'd be bleedin' better than the midfield we have now because at least we'd have someone bleedin' in there wha'?

    Coat. Actually. Bed.
    That team would get beat 5-2, 4-1, 3-0 and the like ALOT.

    Crazy how Sunderland have the worlds 2nd best passer, great coup.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    improbab-luh, but not impossib-bluh
    It is probab-luhl and they will top the tab-bluh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    CHD wrote: »
    The lack of Carvalho and Essien in this thread is loltastic.

    Maybe Essien, Carvalho not sooooo much


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