cork vigilantes vov to kill drug dealers

da-mahon-don

VIGILANTES have threatened to kill anyone who continues to deal drugs on the southside of Cork city.

A number of men wearing dark clothing visited pubs last weekend and distributed leaflets warning of lethal consequences for drug dealers.

Up to half-a-dozen men, linked to the dissident republican group, the 32 County Sovereignty Movement, distributed the leaflets in pubs in Passage West and Rochestown and the city suburbs of Ballyphehane and Togher last Friday.

In a chilling warning, the group said it had drawn up a "new list of drug dealers" and would kill those who continued to deal drugs.

"There will be no more individual warnings or knocks on the door. This is your warning and if you continue to deal drugs then you will be held accountable for your actions by lethal force," the leaflet said.

The matter was discussed at a joint policing meeting of Passage West Town Council on Monday, which was attended by gardaí.

A senior garda source said: "The matter is currently under investigation. We are taking this seriously."

Cllr Seamus McGrath, a member of Cork County Council and Passage West Town Council, said he regarded it as a very serious development.

"Drug dealers should be vigorously pursued, but this should be left to the gardaí and not carried out by vigilantes. I would urge people to assist the gardaí in this matter and not to take the law into their own hands."

Senator Jerry Buttimer echoed those sentiments and added that emotions were running high because of the recent number of heroin deaths in the city.

"Those who are aware of drugs dealers have a duty to report such matters to the gardaí. There should be no tolerance for vigilantism."



This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/cork-...l#ixzz0RFbS37Q4

CB19Kevo

Fair play - the day was going to come when the people became sick of our corrupt and failed courts, If they get the right guys well thats fine. And they were nice enough to give a warning and all.
I dont believe in vigilantaism and intimadition but the drug dealers have been intimadating witnesses and the general population for years so hears payback.

And will our f*ucked up policing,goverment depts and courts ever cop themselves on - We're only a joke of a country.

minidazzler

If they weren't shinners I might approve, but since they're not gonna follow through what does it matter.

And if they do follow through it will be low level street dealers because they won't have the balls to go after the importers.

It does make sense to say it in pubs around the Ballyphehane area though, that's where alot of the bigger drug dealers in Cork live.

What does it matter though, the chances of them following through are slim to nil. They are more likely to proclaim Heroin is now off the streets of Cork without any action than they are to kill one of the leaches.

Dankoozy

great news. i hope it works out for these vigilantes

Bill-e

http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/cork-vigilantes-vow-to-kill-drug-dealers-101030.html

Cork vigilantes vow to kill drug dealers

By Sean O’Riordan
Wednesday, September 16, 2009

VIGILANTES have threatened to kill anyone who continues to deal drugs on the southside of Cork city.

A number of men wearing dark clothing visited pubs last weekend and distributed leaflets warning of lethal consequences for drug dealers.

Up to half-a-dozen men, linked to the dissident republican group, the 32 County Sovereignty Movement, distributed the leaflets in pubs in Passage West and Rochestown and the city suburbs of Ballyphehane and Togher last Friday.

In a chilling warning, the group said it had drawn up a "new list of drug dealers" and would kill those who continued to deal drugs.

"There will be no more individual warnings or knocks on the door. This is your warning and if you continue to deal drugs then you will be held accountable for your actions by lethal force," the leaflet said.

The matter was discussed at a joint policing meeting of Passage West Town Council on Monday, which was attended by gardaí.

A senior garda source said: "The matter is currently under investigation. We are taking this seriously."

Cllr Seamus McGrath, a member of Cork County Council and Passage West Town Council, said he regarded it as a very serious development.

"Drug dealers should be vigorously pursued, but this should be left to the gardaí and not carried out by vigilantes. I would urge people to assist the gardaí in this matter and not to take the law into their own hands."

Senator Jerry Buttimer echoed those sentiments and added that emotions were running high because of the recent number of heroin deaths in the city.

"Those who are aware of drugs dealers have a duty to report such matters to the gardaí. There should be no tolerance for vigilantism."

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/cork-vigilantes-vow-to-kill-drug-dealers-101030.html#ixzz0RHP4V4GX

Do ye think these guys mean business or what?
Very interesting stuff!

Bill-e

Maybe they could also do something about the traffic in Rochestown ?

Dankoozy

dupe

maybe they could overthrow the government which would be more useful

Fair Play to them . The Gardai are fighting a loosing battle against the drug dealer's. In some cases not fighting at all. Every day coming home from work in the city centre of dublin i see at least 2 drug deals a day outside Carrolls of Dublin.
What has really pissed me off is , just down the road there are 3 Gardai stopping cars and fining them for using the bus corridor .

Trojan911

Bill-e wrote: »

http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/cork-vigilantes-vow-to-kill-drug-dealers-101030.html


Do ye think these guys mean business or what?
Very interesting stuff!

Only time will tell.....

raah!

Perhaps they should use terminology a bit more specific than "drug dealers".

I don't agree with this sort of thing though, they sound like a bunch of misguided scumbags tbh.

D-Generate

Pharmacists around the south-side better watch out!

I am guessing that the South Side was the only place visited because the so called vigilantes found the North Side too long a car drive from the Provos home that is Passage.

What a bunch of fools

liberal

What do they mean by drug dealers? We can presume, given the shocking rise in heroin use in Cork City, which is surprisingly almost as evident on the south side of the Lee as it is the north (this is what makes the problem very different from the one in Dublin). If we discuss exclusively heroin, then what makes a person a heroin dealer, i.e. what volume of drug dealing would make him a drug dealer, this creates two problems:

1. To target small time drug dealers the vigilanties will have to attack users and dealers as young as twelve. I don't think they'll last too long in any community if they target mislead youngsters, and the users must also be afforded some sympathy.

2. If they target Big/Medium size drug dealers, the members of the vigilante group would most likely be killed by the drug dealers. Where vigilantes have shotguns and baseball bats dealers have submachine guns and automatic pistols.

To conclude, the actions of a vigilante group would be futile. But one must respect that members of our community are brave enough to stand up to the death dealers.

On are related topic, does anyone have an opinion as to why heroin use has exponetially increased in Cork City?

DamienH

Jesus christ, that's what cork needs a bunch of ****ing provos dealing out their own brand of justice. What about the drug dealers working hand in hand with the RIRA, these will be alright will they?

Threats like this don't work, people will continue to deal/consume heroin regardless of vigilantes. After all they are taking a fairly dangerous drug.

I'd say heroin use is up because people are finding money tight and it's a fairly good bang for your buck. I'm not sure what a bag of heroin costs but I'd imagine a deal is about €20? I suppose people start out smoking it and then turn to injections, although I've only ever heard of people smoking it in Cork anyway but it won't be long.

The 32 County Sovereignty Movement should focus their minds on a united Ireland (if that's their true aim) and not running around playing cowboys and indians with drugdealers.

da-mahon-don

they visited the northside 2 weeks ago but it was kept quiet...my aunt was in a pub when they came in

Gunth

Bill-e wrote: »

Maybe they could also do something about the traffic in Rochestown ?

LOL

Captain Furball

Fair play to them.
Heroin "was" unheard of in my town, not any more.

Moro Man

TBH the only difference between the drug dealers and these guys would be that the drug dealers admit that they sell drugs for their own profit while the other clowns ( who don't cod yourself for a second that their real motive isn't to corner the drug market in Cork ) do it for 'the cause'

JP Liz

VIGILANTES have threatened to kill anyone who continues to deal drugs on the southside of Cork city.
A number of men wearing dark clothing visited pubs last weekend and distributed leaflets warning of lethal consequences for drug dealers.
Up to half-a-dozen men, linked to the dissident republican group, the 32 County Sovereignty Movement, distributed the leaflets in pubs in Passage West and Rochestown and the city suburbs of Ballyphehane and Togher last Friday.
In a chilling warning, the group said it had drawn up a "new list of drug dealers" and would kill those who continued to deal drugs.
"There will be no more individual warnings or knocks on the door. This is your warning and if you continue to deal drugs then you will be held accountable for your actions by lethal force," the leaflet said.
The matter was discussed at a joint policing meeting of Passage West Town Council on Monday, which was attended by gardaí.
A senior garda source said: "The matter is currently under investigation. We are taking this seriously."
Cllr Seamus McGrath, a member of Cork County Council and Passage West Town Council, said he regarded it as a very serious development.
"Drug dealers should be vigorously pursued, but this should be left to the gardaí and not carried out by vigilantes. I would urge people to assist the gardaí in this matter and not to take the law into their own hands."
Senator Jerry Buttimer echoed those sentiments and added that emotions were running high because of the recent number of heroin deaths in the city.
"Those who are aware of drugs dealers have a duty to report such matters to the gardaí. There should be no tolerance for vigilantism."

Fairplay to them

sunshinegirl

so wont the dealers arm themselves now and we can expect drive by shootings,gang wars,retaliation etc like in dublin

DamienH

Moro Man wrote: »

TBH the only difference between the drug dealers and these guys would be that the drug dealers admit that they sell drugs for their own profit while the other clowns ( who don't cod yourself for a second that their real motive isn't to corner the drug market in Cork ) do it for 'the cause'

Exactly, they're two sides of the same brush.

deadhead13

Idiots calling themselves "The 32 County Sovereignty Movement" running around the place with guns is the last thing we need. I would also be a bit suspect about their real motivation.

kmick

A few local rude boys who think its cool to sell hash from the back of the ford fiesta will get the tar knocked out of them. They would not dare take on any of the major famillies though. Cant see them going as far as murder either I mean its not like a shambolic outfit like this are going to be capable of keeping their identities secret. Mind you if they said they were going to rid Limerick of the Keane/Collopy gang I think half the country would lend them their car and a shovel.

cork1

sounds fair. druggies cause deaths so they get killed. ill believe it when i see it though

parsi

da-mahon-don wrote: »

A number of men wearing dark clothing visited pubs

Sounds like a Boards beer..

Slugs

"Those who are aware of drugs dealers have a duty to report such matters to the gardaí."

AHAHAHAHA. As if they don't know themselves. I wonder where all those lovely drugs they find go when they're to be "disposed of".

Hogzy

Slugs wrote: »

AHAHAHAHA. As if they don't know themselves. I wonder where all those lovely drugs they find go when they're to be "disposed of".

Yeah i hear half the gardai nowadays are loaded up on confiscated heroin :rolleyes:

baza1976

as long as they get the drug dealers I'm for it. when they are finishd in Cork there is pleanty more hunting to be done up here in Limerick!!!!
fight fire with fire.

dahamsta

baza1976 wrote: »

as long as they get the drug dealers I'm for it. when they are finishd in Cork there is pleanty more hunting to be done up here in Limerick!!!!
fight fire with fire.

The brains of the operation.

Kold

Yes lads, because drug dealing is worse than murder.

F*cking hell some of you need to get a grip on yourselves.

brendansmith

What makes a murderer?

A: Murder!

You cant murder one with out the other?

anna321

delighted to hear that something is been done to sort out this problem before our kids are destroyed.Does anyone know where i can sign up for this?

run_Forrest_run

anna321 wrote: »

delighted to hear that something is been done to sort out this problem before our kids are destroyed.Does anyone know where i can sign up for this?

any garda station would be happy to take your name now, saves them the work later.

Slugs

Sarcasm?

baza1976

Kold wrote: »

Yes lads, because drug dealing is worse than murder.

F*cking hell some of you need to get a grip on yourselves.

Well some people would say it is just as bad if not worse!!!! esp if you have had someone belonging to you affected and eventually die from taken and been supplied drugs.
Then there is the fact that most of the murders in Ireland over th last few years are gang land related and we know these gangs aren't selling sweets!!! So less of these lads dealing the better.

So yeah go string them up I say...

I'm sick of seeing these people get of lightly in the courts and if that doesn't happen the cops can't get someone to take th stand against them...

DamienH

Just walk into Togher Garda station with a balaclava and a tricolour announcing your good intentions. Alternatively, there's a Sinn Feín shop on Barrack St. that can sort you out.

DamienH

No one gets off lightly in court for dealing heroin, guaranteed a hefty sentence. I don't think drug dealing is worse than murder, the drug dealers wouldn't be in business if people didn't keep buying it. Scare stories about drug dealers getting people hooked should be taken with a grain of salt.

If someone offers you "hash," to be smoked out of tinfoil......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCLs0jv_Efk

lostinsuperfunk

Go, vigilantes, go!

I look forward to the day when we can hand hand over the entire policing and judicial system to these community-spirited volunteers. I want summary hangings for people found letting their dogs foul the Lough, mandatory car-jackings and punishment beatings for those who forget to use their indicators on the Kinsale Road roundabout, and stoning for students found interfering with traffic cones. The new system will be much more cost effective and streamlined than all those bothersome warrants and arrests and court sessions and appeals, not to mention prisons.

baza1976

DamienH wrote: »

No one gets off lightly in court for dealing heroin, guaranteed a hefty sentence. I don't think drug dealing is worse than murder, the drug dealers wouldn't be in business if people didn't keep buying it. Scare stories about drug dealers getting people hooked should be taken with a grain of salt.

If someone offers you "hash," to be smoked out of tinfoil......

It could also be said if there was no one selling it thn no one would buy it!!!

I don't want to be going to and fro or tit for tat here. but when you have experienced some bad things and the people who are fault for these bad things are still walking the street without a care you get bit fustrated. Suppose thats what is coming out here fustration.

The flip side of all this is if these so ccalled repulblican guys got rid of all the dealers they would prob start dealing themselfs.

Kold

I've lost one friend to class A's. That was MDMA and a very, very remote chance. Lost a lot more family to alcohol.

Can you give me an example of someone getting caught dealing smack and being let off? I've seen mates being dragged to court for having a couple of pills/a fifty bag of low grade weed. A fine of a few hundred and a criminal record for some relatively harmless recreationals doesn't seem that leniant to me.

A bunch of shinner scumbags playing judge, jury and executioner seem like a bigger danger to this county. 'Drug dealers' is such a broad term but I assume they mean heroin dealers?

DamienH

Fair enough bazza, I have no direct experience (family members) of serious drug addiction. I'm sure if I did, I'd feel the same way.

ohknee

Kold wrote: »

I've lost one friend to class A's. That was MDMA and a very, very remote chance. Lost a lot more family to alcohol.

Can you give me an example of someone getting caught dealing smack and being let off? I've seen mates being dragged to court for having a couple of pills/a fifty bag of low grade weed. A fine of a few hundred and a criminal record for some relatively harmless recreationals doesn't seem that leniant to me.

A bunch of shinner scumbags playing judge, jury and executioner seem like a bigger danger to this county. 'Drug dealers' is such a broad term but I assume they mean heroin dealers?

here is your example.

June 18th 2008

No jail over city’s biggest heroin haul

A KEEN young sportsman who was worried about his mortgage repayments was caught with the biggest seizure of heroin ever made in Cork city and yesterday he was given a suspended six-year jail sentence.

Brian Wall was sentenced for the category of drugs crime that can carry up to life imprisonment, or a minimum of 10 years.

Judge Patrick J Moran took the view that Brian Wall, 26, of 43 Beech Tree Avenue, Shanakiel, Cork, had learned his lesson.

Detective Sergeant Lar O’Brien said a drugs squad surveillance operation saw Wall arriving at the car park of St Anne’s hospital in Shanakiel at 11am on September 27, 2007. He was seen placing an item at the base of an ESB pole.

Gardaí stopped him 100 metres away and found 24 ounces of heroin wrapped in individual one-ounce bags. A one-ounce bag of heroin had been left at the ESB pole. And when his home was searched another one-ounce deal was found concealed in a video recorder.

The drugs had a total street value of more than €145,000.

“He admitted acting as a store-man and distributor to the various locations around Cork city. He had received a kilo of the drug the previous week and had done three separate drops (of one-ounce deals), nine ounces distributed in total. He was to receive €2,000 for doing it,” said Det Sgt O’Brien.

It was the largest seizure of heroin in Cork, the defendant had no addiction, and he was motivated by the need to make money to repay a mortgage that he and his partner had recently purchased.

Det Sgt O’Brien said the defendant and his partner had €1,000 in wages coming in each week.

Blaise O’Carroll SC said the defendant, who is an accomplished hurler and soccer player, had suffered a sports injury that put his wages down to the basic of €580 per week. Wall testified yesterday that he was unable to get overtime after his injury.

Mr O’Carroll said that a drug dealer — whose name Wall never revealed to the gardaí — approached the defendant when he heard of his mortgage difficulties. The senior counsel said it was a case of the drug dealer hiding behind the defendant’s squeaky-clean character to protect himself.

Wall cried in the witness box and asked for a second chance as he apologised to the court and to his family.

Judge Moran referred to the probation report estimation of Wall as a low risk off re-offending and the character references as he imposed the suspended sentence.

This **** should have got 10 years plus with no remission.

Kold

Doesn't really deserve to die however.

soundsham

anyone interested in handing out leaflets this week
"drugs still freely available........no body killed for selling it"

last weeks stunt was a load of old cr4p
these muppets dont deserve any publicity

ohknee

Kold wrote: »

Doesn't really deserve to die however.

Never said he did but the least this **** should have got was jail.He was not even a user.

Saw a guy get two months for being in possession of a piece of tinfoil with traces of heroin on it.

Where is the justice in that.

Haru

And next thing, we hear about Batman invading Cork. -_-
I think dealing with drugs dealers is something that should be left to the gardai. If a bunch of guys starts deciding what's wrong and what's good in here, anyone could get into trouble.

I know drugs is a real problem, but still, if everyone starts making their own justice, it'll be even worse.

DamienH

How do we know that guy didn't inform against whoever he was holding the heroin for? THe gardaí usually condone such behaviour.

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!

slimjim09

Guys the cork 32csm are very active in my area. They are not an armed group and do not engage in anti social behaviour and have no links to any criminality. These guys are VERY anti drugs and against anti social behaviour.

Everyone thinks there threatening to kill heroin dealers. That is a lie, Ogliagh na hEireann (who the media calls the ''Real IRA'') are the men who say they are going to deal with heroin dealers.

This notion that there a drug gang is utter insanity! The 32csm are a political group and i have seen 3 of their commemorations pass near my house, i also seen them protesting against ian paisly, john mayor the invasion of palestine and camopaigning against lisbon.

All the propaganda calling them drug dealers and scumbags is nothing more than utter lies.

Also, these guys have nothing to do with sinn fein.

If anyone wants to join the Cork 32csm may do so by sending them an e-mail.

The main nationwide 32csm site is www.32csm.info and if anyone in any country wishs to mail them just type in ''cork 32csm'' (kerry, dublin, derry, monaghan, fermangah, limrick they have alot of cumanns) for link to their e-mail address.

ohknee

DamienH wrote: »

How do we know that guy didn't inform against whoever he was holding the heroin for? THe gardaí usually condone such behaviour.

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!

That and the fact he was christian brothers educated.Could not do overtime due to a sports injury.He was earning close to 600 a week.What utter bollocks.

He was just a greedy little rat who got caught but did he go down.If you have a good background with money you wont do time in this country.

Have nothing but hate for this ****.

ohknee

slimjim09 wrote: »

Guys the cork 32csm are very active in my area. They are not an armed group and do not engage in anti social behaviour and have no links to any criminality. These guys are VERY anti drugs and against anti social behaviour.

Everyone thinks there threatening to kill heroin dealers. That is a lie, Ogliagh na hEireann (who the media calls the ''Real IRA'') are the men who say they are going to deal with heroin dealers.

This notion that there a drug gang is utter insanity! The 32csm are a political group and i have seen 3 of their commemorations pass near my house, i also seen them protesting against ian paisly, john mayor the invasion of palestine and camopaigning against lisbon.

All the propaganda calling them drug dealers and scumbags is nothing more than utter lies.

Also, these guys have nothing to do with sinn fein.

If anyone wants to join the Cork 32csm may do so by sending them an e-mail.

The main nationwide 32csm site is www.32csm.info and if anyone in any country wishs to mail them just type in ''cork 32csm'' (kerry, dublin, derry, monaghan, fermangah, limrick they have alot of cumanns) for link to their e-mail address.

Just a question there for you.I know 32csm are a political grouping but are they not affiliated to RIRA?

Was it not the sister of a famous hunger striker who was instrumental in setting them up?

Moro Man

slimjim09 wrote: »

Everyone thinks there threatening to kill heroin dealers. That is a lie, Ogliagh na hEireann (who the media calls the ''Real IRA'') are the men who say they are going to deal with heroin dealers.

But is it mutually exclusive being a member of Ogliagh na hEireann and the 32 County Solidarity Movement?

slimjim09 wrote: »

Also, these guys have nothing to do with sinn fein.

In fact they view Sinn Fein as the new enemy for selling them out and going down the peace route.

They even ( not sure if its the oglaighs or the solidaritys ) threatened Johnathan O'Brien, a Sinn Fein councillor, last week for airing an opinion on their proposed 'solution' to the heroin problem in Cork


But at least they have the finger on the pulse in Lithuania ( see web site for details )

But not so on their choice of the Irish Republican Forum for Unity ( IRFU for short ) name as it is a bit Gift Grubbish in its choice of acronym, or maybe they're trying to reclaim it from the only 32 county institution that exists on the international stage ( Compromise Rules doesn't really count )

Seloth

Mhhh well if this does happen then I hope they target the hardcore drugs rather than the soft ones.I dont do the stuff but it'd fairly stupid for them to kill of hash dealers when heroin and **** does true damage.

I wonder if Batman will end up blowing up Mad and the Funky skunk.