European League-Are Irish fans of English clubs for this?

ANTIFA!

On another forum I'm on they're discussing this and so far basically everybody is against it. Pricing the local fans out if it seems to be one of the main reasons for being against this. But since a home team for your chosen club is still an away game it makes no difference to you anyway.

So my question is would you prefer if Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United and Liverpool formed with the other big European clubs, a European Super League?

Quite often you see people mention the ' superior product' of the English Premier League, so I'd imagine 99% of you would like to see this happen.

I mean it be pefect right? You'd get rid of the unneeded dross and be able to witness the highest quality football Europe has to offer on the television from your fatboy or barstool(no pun intended) every week.

cournioni

ANTIFA! wrote: »

I mean it be pefect right? You'd get rid of the unneeded dross and be able to witness the highest quality football Europe has to offer on the television from your fatboy or barstool(no pun intended) every week.

What exactly are you implying here? That we are all barstoolers?

Pepe LeFrits

Hell yeah!

I'd go one further and close up all the clubs that aren't included in the ESL (tm) to provide additional revenue for the super clubs, allowing an even better yet product for us consumers.

nom nom nom

Mr.Nice Guy

ANTIFA wrote:

I mean it be pefect right? You'd get rid of the unneeded dross and be able to witness the highest quality football Europe has to offer on the television from your fatboy or barstool(no pun intended) every week.

ANTIFA!

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

What exactly are you implying here? That we are all barstoolers?

Of course not. I'm sure 99% of you imagine to make at least one or two daytrips a year.

dreamers75

uhh fairly sure all the best footballing players in the world HAVE NOT come tru the top 4 PL youth academies


As much as it pains the regular barstooler the simple fact remains, without little clubs there would be no big clubs. Where that little club resides is irrelevant.

ANTIFA!

By the way I think this is an interesting thread to see how the local fan in England and the consumer of English football in Ireland, Norway, Gambia, Taiwan differ completely.

cournioni

ANTIFA! wrote: »

Of course not. I'm sure 99% of you imagine to make at least one or two daytrips a year.

And what about the other 1%? What are they?

OPENROAD

I would be against a European Super League. I'm not sure what age everyone is here but I'm old enough to remember football before the Premier league, I chose to follow the English league, not just Arsenal, and all that comes with that.

dreamers75

ANTIFA! wrote: »

By the way I think this is an interesting thread to see how the true local fan in England and the consumer of English football in Ireland, Norway, Gambia, Taiwan differ completely.

your obviously more drunk than i am.

but i shall explain this as simple as i can.


Football fans go to football matches.

People who like football watch it on tv.

Boards.ie falls into the 2nd category, a massive amount of people who like football. They are not football fans as they are not at matches, they are people who like football on tv.


But they are better than everyone else as the football they like on tv is ranked batter than everyone elses football.


Seriously if your an LOI militant, give it up. If they dont go to see their own teams play they are not going to see your team play.


Accept it and move on.


Ronan/raven the exception of course.

ANTIFA!

I'm not a hypocrit and I love watching football on tv as how else could I see high quality football????

I follow Real Madrid and Arsenal but I am a consumer of these clubs. I don't know what it really means to support them no more than a Liverpool fan from Dublin or Oslo knows what it really means to support Liverpool. I could never be like a true Real or Arsenal fan, not in a million years. It doesn't even make sense to me to say I support Real Madrid even though I probably liked them for as long as I have supported Bohemians.

dreamers75

ANTIFA! wrote: »

I'm not a hypocrit and I love watching football on tv as how else could I see high quality football????

I follow Real Madrid and Arsenal but I am a consumer of these clubs. I don't know what it really means to support them no more than a Liverpool fan from Dublin or Oslo knows what it really means to support Liverpool. I could never be like a true Real or Arsenal fan, not in a million years. It doesn't even make sense to me to say I support Real Madrid even though I probably liked them for as long as I have supported Bohemians.

yup drunker than me

Mr.Nice Guy

dreamers75 wrote: »

yup drunker than me

There's so many barstoolers in this thread I can't keep up. :pac:

Pepe LeFrits

I'd be a barstooler except I'm so drunk I can't get up from the floor.

dreamers75

pfft can even be drunk properly!!!!


See this what your up against!!!!!

Mr.Nice Guy

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

I'd be a barstooler except I'm so drunk I can't get up from the floor.

I hope you're drinking local drink. After all you're not a true drunk unless you've been sampling Ireland's finest.

ANTIFA!

dreamers75 wrote: »

People who like football watch it on tv.

I've always said that the vast majority of fans of foreign teams only do it to follow the crowd and have something to talk about on a Monday morning.

They like the glamour and glitz of English football and since we have the same language as them the majority gravitate towards the Big English teams because they feel they can share the identity(I've actually heard barstoolers suggest they are in someway different to Chinese barstoolers and on another well known forum for Irish barstoolers some guy had the balls to put up a Man United membership forum which jokes there are no Manchester United fans in Manchester).

You don't get news like 'Tevez off to city' and stuff like that in Ireland so its just not interesting for these people.

Its like a Reality TV show or something, actually how about all English football discussed on here gets moved to the 'Celebritys and Showbiz' section of Boards?

OPENROAD

People in Ireland have always followed English football, it is not just in the last 10 or 20 years you know.

ANTIFA!

I'd well believe it but people in Scotland and Norway have also always followed English football, but they don't claim the league to be theirs and shun their own national leagues.

Mr.Nice Guy

ANTIFA! wrote: »

Its like a Reality TV show or something, actually how about all English football discussed on here gets moved to the 'Celebritys and Showbiz' section of Boards?

Or how about we just see an end to these intensely boring threads?

ANTIFA!

Eh no, I think on an Irish soccer forum, a fundamental aspect would be that the League of Ireland, the league of the country we all live in is drastically under supported. You do know we're pretty unique right? Not much European nations have similar apathy to their national league?

However this thread isn't the place for it.

mayordenis

Nearly fell off my barstool, with how ****in stupid this thread is.

Mr.Nice Guy

ANTIFA! wrote: »

Eh no, I think on an Irish soccer forum, a fundamental theme would be the fact that football in this country is drastically under supported.

Calling us a bunch of barstoolers isn't really addressing anything is it?

mayordenis wrote:

Nearly fell off my barstool, with how ****in stupid this thread is.

I think I need a drink myself.

cournioni

So ANTIFA! You didn't answer my question. What about the number of United fans (that probably outnumber Bohs fans) on boards.ie including myself that have United season tickets go to 25 home and probably 10 away games plus a season? Do we not know what it means to support our team? Despite both sides of my family supporting United for generations.

So what should I do? Just drop them and go support Monaghan United, Dundalk, Drogheda, Bohs clubs that I have no connection to or any meaningful feeling towards as I never grew up in any of those towns, should I follow Dundalk exclusively? I go to half of their home games every season but still have no connection with them although I do CONSUME them... I have a connection with United because it's in my blood. Think about that the next time you go spouting about being a real fan just because you support a LOI team.

ANTIFA!

I didn't call anyone barstoolers. Its a legitimate question. I'm very interested in the culture of football. I want to see how Irish people who follow English clubs differ in their views to local fans. Its hard when posting a thread like this to not relate to League of Ireland. People bemoan the quality here so surely your aim like any consumer is to get the best quality product. A European Super League would be the best product on offer imo.

mayordenis

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Calling us a bunch of barstoolers isn't really addressing anything is it?

It is yea, every month we're told this utter guff, and it's really getting to the crux of the issue and really helping the league move forward into a time where even the barstooling cretins such as myself can enjoy the fine technical and tactical show that is the League of Ireland, oh most wonderous spectical.

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I think I need a drink myself.

Still in work, but 10 beers says I'll be set up nicely for a day EPL action tomorrow.
I'll have a quick pray to god or Andy Grey as he's really known before knocking one out watching Stelling, Merson and my good aul pals on Soccer Saturday.

mayordenis

ANTIFA! wrote: »

I didn't call anyone barstoolers.

You did, don't be dodging that - whether direct or not you defiantely did.

Pepe LeFrits

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I hope you're drinking local drink. After all you're not a true drunk unless you've been sampling Ireland's finest.

Damn, I hadn't thought of that. I'm in San Diego (I felt I wasn't barstool enough being in Dublin) drinking American beer, so when I'm barstooling it up tomorrow at 7am for l'arse game, I'll be sure to drink Harp instead.

OPENROAD

ANTIFA! wrote: »

I didn't call anyone barstoolers. Its a legitimate question. I'm very interested in the culture of football. I want to see how Irish people who follow English clubs differ in their views to local fans. Its hard when posting a thread like this to not relate to League of Ireland. People bemoan the quality here so surely your aim like any consumer is to get the best quality product. A European Super League would be the best product on offer imo.

Personally for me the quality of football has no impact on my reason for Supporting Arsenal/English league.

Helix

ANTIFA! wrote: »

On another forum I'm on they're discussing this and so far basically everybody is against it. Pricing the local fans out if it seems to be one of the main reasons for being against this. But since a home team for your chosen club is still an away game it makes no difference to you anyway.

So my question is would you prefer if Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United and Liverpool formed with the other big European clubs, a European Super League?

Quite often you see people mention the ' superior product' of the English Premier League, so I'd imagine 99% of you would like to see this happen.

I mean it be pefect right? You'd get rid of the unneeded dross and be able to witness the highest quality football Europe has to offer on the television from your fatboy or barstool(no pun intended) every week.

absolutely not

but then, i go to games

cournioni

For the record. I would be totally against the idea of a European super league. Football has gone far enough down the drain as it is as regards the setup for European football and commercialism without going further down the drain by going this route.