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Cannabis should be legalized in Ireland To pull Our country out of ression

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    #1292
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    He footnoted that with something about making exception for people with a medical need.
    So he's neither here nor there, no actual standpoint.


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    #1293
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    James Riley was quoted yesterday that the government is to bring in medicinal cannabis this year!

    it's all down to the guy taking his case to Brussels to forgets Shenghen agreement.

    well cool and about time too!!


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    #1294
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    whoopdedoo wrote: »
    James Riley was quoted yesterday that the government is to bring in medicinal cannabis this year!

    it's all down to the guy taking his case to Brussels to forgets Shenghen agreement.

    well cool and about time too!!

    Would you have a link to this anywhere whoopdedoo.
    I'd like to have a closer look.


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    #1295
    bc dub
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭bc dub


    That's good news, but wont it just be the SativaX mouth spray they might be allowing?
    And at that, for people that are genuinely ill.


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    #1296
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    mikom wrote: »
    Would you have a link to this anywhere whoopdedoo.
    I'd like to have a closer look.

    it was on rte's news site yesterday but it didn't have the statement quoted on the website, at the end of the story on the news at 9 last night it said he intended to bring it in,

    should be able to watch it on the iplayer for up to 28 days


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    #1297
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    bc dub wrote: »
    That's good news, but wont it just be the SativaX mouth spray they might be allowing?
    And at that, for people that are genuinely ill.

    im sure they'll approve sativex and marinol but they will also have to stand back and let people recieve delivery of cannabis from cannabisbureau.nl when that happens as some people get more of an effect from cooking/smoking/vaporising real cannabis and that's well known.

    also with every step they take they'll be blurring the lines of illegality and at the end of the day there's so many uses for the stuff you should have no problem getting a doc to sign a script for it.

    ah there goes my glaucoma again! *reaches for spliff


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    #1298
    bc dub
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭bc dub


    SUPER!

    I've heard some good 'reasons' people used for their medicinal uses in America, but over there some of the clinics would attempt to drag you in off the street and give you an excuse to buy. Without a doubt the best I've heard was "I suffer from Paranoia and Anxiety if I don't smoke weed"


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    #1299
    Oh_Noes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    whoopdedoo wrote: »
    it was on rte's news site yesterday but it didn't have the statement quoted on the website, at the end of the story on the news at 9 last night it said he intended to bring it in,

    should be able to watch it on the iplayer for up to 28 days

    Have you any links at all to confirm this? I looked through last night's nine news and didn't see anything about it.

    Are you sure you didn't dream it? :p


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    #1300
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    Have you any links at all to confirm this? I looked through last night's nine news and didn't see anything about it.

    Are you sure you didn't dream it? :p

    no links man, defo heard it tho so you'll just have to take my word for it until the government release the next batch of carefully timed press release on the subject, this has been coming the last 2 years in my opinion, in my circle I've been proclaiming since 2008 that within 3/5 years you'll see it here and we're coming up on the 4th year now, bang on like! I've just noticed so much going on between the lines of discussion on the subject of cannabis on the day and night-time tv chat shows, print media, radio, magazines etc.

    the general public were being fed small bits of rational views so nobody freaks out when legalisation comes round. you can say I'm off my head but time will prove me right i'm certain.

    and to go one step further: the member states were told last nov they can make up their own drugs laws from now on and the body making the announcement were pointing out the massive market worth = (€60 - 120/140bn+!!)

    I can see current drug laws in all the eu countries including our good selves have a shelf life of another 3/4 years max!


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    #1301
    Cosimo Salvatore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Cosimo Salvatore


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    Have you any links at all to confirm this? I looked through last night's nine news and didn't see anything about it.

    Are you sure you didn't dream it? :p

    A Link You Say ?


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    #1302
    Oh_Noes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Cosimo Salvatore wrote: »
    A Link You Say ?

    Thanks for the link.

    It's not really "Ireland will be legalising medical cannabis" but it does show that there's a little bit more wiggle room being made so I can see whoopdedoo's point.

    It is definitely a step in the right direction and something actually happening. Lets hope that snowball keeps on rolling down the hill.


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    #1303
    sargito
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭sargito


    Bit of a joke that we're the only OECD country to have a blanket ban on cannabis based drugs, even the THC spray. By comparison heroin is a perfectly legal ingredient in some medicines.


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    #1304
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 81,675 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    US Pot Industry estimated $5bn in energy consumption and expected to growww, maan.

    http://gizmodo.com/#!5791320/buzzkill-of-the-day-us-marijuana-industry-responsible-for-5-billion-in-energy-consumption


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    #1305
    Topsnakebite
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Topsnakebite


    Here is a petition that can be signed to help
    http://www.petitiononline.ie/petition/legalize-cannabis-in-ireland-2011/9


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    #1306
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Overheal wrote: »
    US Pot Industry estimated $5bn in energy consumption and expected to growww, maan.

    http://gizmodo.com/#!5791320/buzzkill-of-the-day-us-marijuana-industry-responsible-for-5-billion-in-energy-consumption
    America could switch to outdoor growing fairly quickly. As far as I know the established brands of weed are all grown outdoors in CA.

    This is a problem that would go away if cannabis prohibition was lifted. It will only get worse as long as prohibition continues.


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    #1307
    sargito
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭sargito


    costs 5 billion to grow and the small legal medicinal market is worth 8.9 billion.

    thats a pretty hefty profit margin, and the 5 billion energy costs go back into the economy via the electicity company.

    not much of an argument against legalization.


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    #1308
    Jagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Jagle


    sargito wrote: »
    costs 5 billion to grow and the small legal medicinal market is worth 8.9 billion.

    thats a pretty hefty profit margin, and the 5 billion energy costs go back into the economy via the electicity company.

    not much of an argument against legalization.

    simple put the 5 billion is for lights exhaust systems and things used to keep what your doing hidden, of course legalising it would allow you to grow it outdoors without fear of being caught, hence no cost


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    #1309
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    sargito wrote: »
    costs 5 billion to grow and the small legal medicinal market is worth 8.9 billion.

    thats a pretty hefty profit margin,
    It's not really once you consider that's just the energy costs. Although put the growing into the hands of real business and they'd reduce those costs dramatically.
    and the 5 billion energy costs go back into the economy via the electicity company.
    Good point, that money is going to legitimate business not criminals.


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    #1310
    prech101
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭prech101


    Crime related to drug use and drug users seems to have dropped in Portugal the last few years!!,,, wonder why that is????

    Any takers??????


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    #1311
    Jagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Jagle


    prech101 wrote: »
    Crime related to drug use and drug users seems to have dropped in Portugal the last few years!!,,, wonder why that is????

    Any takers??????

    cos they decriminalised drugs a decade ago


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    #1312
    kleefarr
    Registered Users Posts: 5,743 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Topsnakebite wrote: »
    Here is a petition that can be signed to help
    http://www.petitiononline.ie/petition/legalize-cannabis-in-ireland-2011/9

    Only 192 signatures!! Well 193 now. ;)


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