Greatest Irish sportsperson?

--amadeus-- · 10-09-2009 9:08am #1

I don't know how many of you look at the rte website but they currently have a poll running.

We have produced a long line of great Olympians, footballers, hurlers, athletes, boxers, trainers and riders... but who in our pantheon of sporting greats reigns supreme? And how do the greats of today cut it with the greats of the past?

We want you to pick the individual you feel is Ireland's Greatest Sportsperson Ever! from the long shortlist of 'nominees' which we have put together... from Sonia to Padraig, from Gilesy to Christy Ring, from Brian O'Driscoll to Vincent O'Brien

Wouldn't it be nice if - instead of a footballer (again) - this went to an athlete?

Poncherello · 10-09-2009 9:16am

Come on now

Roy Keane there's no one on their that comes close

What the f*ck is Michelle de Bruin doing on the list

--amadeus-- · 10-09-2009 9:20am

Poncherello wrote: »

Come on now

Roy Keane there's no one on their that comes close

What the f*ck is Michelle de Bruin doing on the list

She's on thier for the sake of a bit of controversy I would suggest. And as far as I know she still holds her medals, doesn't she?

Roy Keane? I'd sooner give it to Steven Ireland...!

10-09-2009 9:40am

In terms of ability, gotta be Liam Brady....whaddya mean he didn't make the list?

misty floyd · 10-09-2009 10:00am

Where is Ali on the list ?

osnola ibax · 10-09-2009 10:13am

It's paddy Harry, no doubts

Woddle · 10-09-2009 10:16am

osnola ivax wrote: »

It's paddy Harry, no doubts

Yep I went with Harrington also.

myflipflops · 10-09-2009 10:32am

As this is an internet poll, a footballer will probably win (Keane or Best for my money).

Realistically, the greatest Irish sportsperson in terms of achievements is Sonia O'Sullivan. Very few Irish people dominate a top class sport for a continued period of time. Sonia ws the best distance runner in the world for 3 or 4 years. She won female athlete of the year one year too.

There's certainly a very strong arguement for Harrington but I have my issues with comparing golfers to other sports people.

thirtyfoot · 10-09-2009 10:46am

Woddle wrote: »

Yep I went with Harrington also.

Are you kidding me? If Harrington gets it I will have lost all faith in the Irish sporting public for good. Its dubious whether golf is a sport and then dubious whether he is good enough in a dubious sport to qualify as our greatest sportsperson ever. Purely because he is recent and golf gets massive over exposure may mean he gets it.

Imagine if Pat O' Callaghan was around now. Double Olympic champion and politics deprived him a third. Or even Sean Kelly, world number 1 for so many years, Roche, 3 'grand slams' in one year. Even Sonia. The top middle distance athlete for nearly a decade, multiple world champ, olympic medalist. Barry McGuigan. Actually, I'd could list off all the candidates and all bar the other golfers and horse racing folk would be ahead of Harrington. Even Christy Ring. Never say him play but my father did and the stories I hear would in my mind put him well up the list. The Munster final of '56, Ring towards the end of his career. Micheal O' Hehir comments that Ring is close to the end, he has been marked out of the game and lorded over by his Limerick marker and kept scoreless. Cork losing, Limerick up 5 or 6 points. BANG. Three times in 4 minutes. Ring scores 3 quick fire goals to snatch it for Cork. Or Kelly, in the Milan San Remo. '92 and close to his end. Marino Argentin is leading and heading into his hometown to take the title. Phil Liggett commentary is great. Its a descent and Argentin has it wrapped up. Kelly goes bananas and pulls off one of the greatest descents ever seen, coming from nowhere to claw him back and win. These are the stories of our sporting greats that stir it for me. Coghlan stories, great achievements against the odds. Even Mary Peters, what a legend. I look at these greats and then look at Harrington and he is a snorefest:D

This is purely based on my dislike of horse racing and golf and contention that they aren't sports. Leaving that aside and if I had to accept that golf was a sport I still wouldn't rank Harrington in the top 5 or even top 10!!!

Vote for an athlete, its your duty;) I'm going with Sonia.

catweazle · 10-09-2009 10:56am

Outragous stuff Tingle, you are putting forward sportsmen that you have never seen ahead of a current triple major winner based on stories??

If that is the case let me tell you about the magnificent 2-4 I scored in the 1996 U-16 county final and you might consider me as well worthy of your vote.

Reaganomical · 10-09-2009 10:58am

As for the list of 'greatest' gaelic footballers, clearly no other counties except Kerry and Dublin play the game, Three Kerrymen and a Dub...ffs(!)

My top 5 of this list would be: 1. Ring 2. Sonia 3. O'Driscoll (as a Munsterman, that takes some swallowing but my word, he's something else...we won't appreciate how good til he's gone) 4. McCoy 5. Gibson

Poncherello · 10-09-2009 11:07am

Tingle wrote: »

Are you kidding me? If Harrington gets it I will have lost all faith in the Irish sporting public for good. Its dubious whether golf is a sport and then dubious whether he is good enough in a dubious sport to qualify as our greatest sportsperson ever. Purely because he is recent and golf gets massive over exposure may mean he gets it.

Imagine if Pat O' Callaghan was around now. Double Olympic champion and politics deprived him a third. Or even Sean Kelly, world number 1 for so many years, Roche, 3 'grand slams' in one year. Even Sonia. The top middle distance athlete for nearly a decade, multiple world champ, olympic medalist. Barry McGuigan. Actually, I'd could list off all the candidates and all bar the other golfers and horse racing folk would be ahead of Harrington. Even Christy Ring. Never say him play but my father did and the stories I hear would in my mind put him well up the list. The Munster final of '56, Ring towards the end of his career. Micheal O' Hehir comments that Ring is close to the end, he has been marked out of the game and lorded over by his Limerick marker and kept scoreless. Cork losing, Limerick up 5 or 6 points. BANG. Three times in 4 minutes. Ring scores 3 quick fire goals to snatch it for Cork. Or Kelly, in the Milan San Remo. '92 and close to his end. Marino Argentin is leading and heading into his hometown to take the title. Phil Liggett commentary is great. Its a descent and Argentin has it wrapped up. Kelly goes bananas and pulls off one of the greatest descents ever seen, coming from nowhere to claw him back and win. These are the stories of our sporting greats that stir it for me. Coghlan stories, great achievements against the odds. Even Mary Peters, what a legend. I look at these greats and then look at Harrington and he is a snorefest:D

This is purely based on my dislike of horse racing and golf and contention that they aren't sports. Leaving that aside and if I had to accept that golf was a sport I still wouldn't rank Harrington in the top 5 or even top 10!!!

Vote for an athlete, its your duty;) I'm going with Sonia.

Outrageously silly argument. If you dont consider Golf to be a sport you havnt a clue bosco.

lisbon_lions · 10-09-2009 11:08am

Katie Taylor not on the list? :eek: World champion in one of her disciplines by a country mile, and successfully representing her country in the other. For me, someone who can cross sports and is very proficient at both at least deserves a mention. Perhaps a gold in the next olympics will have up there competing for this 'rte title'. She is there or there abouts in my estimation.

thirtyfoot · 10-09-2009 11:09am

catweazle wrote: »

Outragous stuff Tingle, you are putting forward sportsmen that you have never seen ahead of a current triple major winner based on stories??

If that is the case let me tell you about the magnificent 2-4 I scored in the 1996 U-16 county final and you might consider me as well worthy of your vote.

Yes. Its an internet poll so we are allowed to be outrageous and irrational. Yes, all those ahead of Harrington even those I haven't seen shows how much I regard golf as a sport;). But for my top 5 or 10 I would pick ones I've seen in the flesh compete or else on TV live. Sonia, Kelly, Roche, McGuigan and maybe Carey with that goal he scored when he double on it after it came back off the cross-bar. I'd throw the holy trinity himself, Jimmy-Barry Murphy in there too but he is omitted.

thirtyfoot · 10-09-2009 11:20am

Poncherello wrote: »

Outrageously silly argument. If you dont consider Golf to be a sport you havnt a clue bosco.

Yes, I agree it is somewhat a silly argument but these cross-sport polls will always throw up such arguments. Seriously and leaving aside my juvenile attack on golf as a sport, I still wouldn't rank him up there as I can't relate to it as a sport like I can to most other sports. I'm sure fat guys with cigars and the tweed trousers down the golf club on their cart will find it hard to relate to Sonia:D

myflipflops · 10-09-2009 11:30am

Tingle wrote: »

Roche, 3 'grand slams' in one year

Roche being on the list is no more ridiculous than Michelle Smith for me. Both should have their achievements expunged from the records.

With regard to golf, I disagree about it not being a sport completely. Also, Harrington is one of the best sports people this country has ever produced. My issue is that he competes in a sport where the majority of the world are excluded. Ignoring the fact that playing golf takes money so you can write off a lot of people in the countries where the game is played, you also put a line through 99% of Africa, most of Eastern Europe, a chunk of South America, most of the population of China among others. It's standing as a global sport is very, very debatable. With this in mind, comparing the achievements of Harrington to a Sonia, a Delaney, a McGuigan or even somebody like Roy Keane is difficult. As a sportsman in his own right, I have nothing bt respect for him. You beat who is put in front of you.

There's obviously a very simlar arguement to be made for all the rugby players on the list though. The GAA is a solely Irish sport but as our national games, I wouldn't be forwarding the argeument.

myflipflops · 10-09-2009 11:35am

Poncherello wrote: »

Outrageously silly argument. If you dont consider Golf to be a sport you havnt a clue bosco.

It's an extreme arguement (and one I've disagreed with) but far from a silly one.

Harrington's success won't have young lads in Tallaght or Mayfield running outside to play golf. Chrity Ring probably inspired a generation of hurlers the way that Italia 90 got a generation out playing football and we're currently seeing the first of the Sonia generation of young girls getting success. Ciara Magaeen saying Sonia is her hero isn't a coincidence or irrelevant, it's quite likely the reason she is an athlete.

We're talking about Ireland's greatest sports person, not who has won the most in the last few years.

mega man · 10-09-2009 11:36am

lisbon_lions wrote: »

Katie Taylor not on the list? :eek: World champion in one of her disciplines by a country mile, and successfully representing her country in the other. For me, someone who can cross sports and is very proficient at both at least deserves a mention. Perhaps a gold in the next olympics will have up there competing for this 'rte title'. She is there or there abouts in my estimation.

i agree. she's overlooked for being a girl but very successful for her age and has many years of competing ahead

myflipflops · 10-09-2009 11:47am

mega man wrote: »

i agree. she's overlooked for being a girl but very successful for her age and has many years of competing ahead

A victim of 2 things:

1 - Her own success. You can't dominate in sport as 'minority' as women's boxing in the way that she has and not have people think that there's no real competition for her.

2 - No TV exposure. Very few people have actually seen her box.

A gold won live on TV in front of a big crowd in London will put the above to right.

Hard Worker · 10-09-2009 11:51am

lisbon_lions wrote: »

Katie Taylor not on the list? :eek: World champion in one of her disciplines by a country mile, and successfully representing her country in the other. For me, someone who can cross sports and is very proficient at both at least deserves a mention. Perhaps a gold in the next olympics will have up there competing for this 'rte title'. She is there or there abouts in my estimation.

Katie Taylor should certainly be on the list. She is without doubt, the best pound for pound boxer in the World. She has achieved this success with very little backing. She trains in a boxing club suitable for males only ( she has to go home to shower ). She is more invincible than Schumacher was. On top of that, she plays football for the Republic of Ireland Senior team.
Sonia would also be worthy of a number one vote. Best in the World for a number of years in a sport that demands so much energy and discipline and sacrifice.
I agree with Tingle re the golf. Golf is for fathletes.

shovelsfc · 10-09-2009 11:53am

Roy Keane!!!

shovelsfc · 10-09-2009 11:55am

George Best maybe....also he is the biggest and greatest alcoholic too!

Woddle · 10-09-2009 11:57am

Tingle wrote: »

. I'm sure fat guys with cigars and the tweed trousers down the golf club on their cart will find it hard to relate to Sonia:D

Classic Tingle as ever, I for one am glad he ain't a mod anymore

I must say I do play a bit of golf and I would also question its tag of sport is appropriate, maybe a sport should be considered a sport when your heart rate goes over 100 bpm.
I do love golf and Harrington is a local and a we heard quite a bit of him from our school teachers.

--amadeus-- · 10-09-2009 12:04pm

I don't think anyone still active / competitive should really be considered. You can only judge a carear fully at it's conclusion. That's why I wouldn't have Katie Taylor on there, although she is def one of our greatest current athletes.

Same goes for Harrington - great success to date.

And I'm pretty firmly with Tingle here - golf is a game of skill. Like darts or snooker. Unless there is physical exertion it's not a sport.

Woddle · 10-09-2009 12:08pm

Would it be a sport if this was the norm

http://www.braypeople.ie/news/against-the-clock-1839637.html

mega man · 10-09-2009 12:13pm

--amadeus-- wrote: »

I don't think anyone still active / competitive should really be considered. You can only judge a carear fully at it's conclusion. That's why I wouldn't have Katie Taylor on there, although she is def one of our greatest current athletes.

Same goes for Harrington - great success to date.

And I'm pretty firmly with Tingle here - golf is a game of skill. Like darts or snooker. Unless there is physical exertion it's not a sport.

i agree. that makes sense

gerard65 · 10-09-2009 12:23pm

For me it has to be Eamonn Coghlan. In the late 70's and early 80's he was the biggest thing since sliced bread both in Ireland and the USA. He achieved so much indoors and his gold in the world championships in '83 was brilliant for the country.
Also Harrington must come very close. You'll find that those at the top of golf are far from 'fat guys with cigars', they have to keep themselves in top shape to perform week in - week out. I've heard Harrington speak about his daily regime and it would put most people here in the shade.

hunnymonster · 10-09-2009 12:24pm

--amadeus-- wrote: »

I don't think anyone still active / competitive should really be considered. You can only judge a carear fully at it's conclusion. That's why I wouldn't have Katie Taylor on there, although she is def one of our greatest current athletes.

Same goes for Harrington - great success to date.

And I'm pretty firmly with Tingle here - golf is a game of skill. Like darts or snooker. Unless there is physical exertion it's not a sport.

+1

and just to bang the feminist drum a little, 29 men:3 women on the list. Article 41.2.1 and .2 has a lot more than economics to answer for!

belcarra · 10-09-2009 12:29pm

sport (spôrt, sp

rt)
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

I think most people would have to agree that Golf fits into this category (Apart from Tingle maybe!).

Personally, I went for Bestie and i'm an Arsenal fan!

belcarra · 10-09-2009 12:30pm

gerard65 wrote: »

You'll find that those at the top of golf are far from 'fat guys with cigars', they have to keep themselves in top shape to perform week in - week out.

John Daly!
Angel Carbrera!
Daz Clarke!

--amadeus-- · 10-09-2009 12:34pm

belcarra wrote: »

sport (spôrt, sprt)
Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

I think most people would have to agree that Golf fits into this category (Apart from Tingle maybe!).

Personally, I went for Bestie and i'm an Arsenal fan!

But by that logic / definition then darts, pool, billiards, snooker, 10 pin bowling and croquet are all sports.

Pisco Sour · 10-09-2009 12:36pm

Mary Peter's won an Olympic Gold for GB so therefore is not irish. Shouldnt be on the list. Serious clutching at straws by having her there.

Catherina McKiernan, Bob Tisdall, Pat O'Callaghan, Jim Stynes (seen as so many gaa players get mentioned) deserve to be listed as nominees!

George Best is dodgey tbh! If GB had a team would he have represented them? Probably

griffin100 · 10-09-2009 12:38pm

Who came up with that list and what was the criteria? It doesn't seem to be put together with any set criteria...for example...

Some people seem to be on it because they won an olympic medal (as they should be) whilst we have other olympic medalists that are missing - Michael Carruth anyone? I'm not saying he is the greatest Irish sportsman, but he deserves to be on that list as much as anyone else. Why Michelle Smyth but no Cian O'Connorr?

What is Roy Keane doing on that list, what has he done to deserve the title? John O'Shea and Denis Irwin have roughly the same number of medals. Giles and McGrath have had significantly less success than these two for example. Perhaps its due to the high profile of Keane and Giles and the fondness that anyone of my age who followed Ireland at the time will always have for McGrath.

I suppose its always going to be difficult to get a long list of 'internationally' recognised sportsmen as obviously you have to include GAA which is only played in Ireland and rugby, which is very much a minoriy sport worldwide.

IMO golf and snooker are not sports, they're games. I still have great respect for Harrington and Doherty and Higgins (especially Higgins, a childhood hero), anyone who can make a living by hitting the little ball into a hole deserves respect...but golf, a sport? It certainly should be kept out of the Olympics.

Horse racing is not a sport - its an activity to facilitate gambling, little more than that.

It should really be between Sonia or Eamon. Roche and Kelly should also be in the running but I would find it hard to vote for either given the cloud that hangs over their sport, but I'm still a huge fan, especially of Kelly. I'll probably vote for Alex Higgins though

gerard65 · 10-09-2009 12:39pm

belcarra wrote: »

John Daly!
Angel Carbrera!
Daz Clarke!

Exactly. I said TOP of golf. Do Woods or Harrington behave like the above? Trying to remember the last time your mates above finished in the top half of a major. They had talent no doubt about it, but staying at the top is very different.

Pisco Sour · 10-09-2009 12:41pm

griffin100 wrote: »

Who came up with that list and what was the criteria? It doesn't seem to be put together with any set criteria...for example...

Some people seem to be on it because they won an olympic medal (as they should be) whilst we have other olympic medalists that are missing - Michael Carruth anyone? I'm not saying he is the greatest Irish sportsman, but he deserves to be on that list as much as anyone else. Why Michelle Smyth but no Cian O'Connorr?

What is Roy Keane doing on that list, what has he done to deserve the title? John O'Shea and Denis Irwin have roughly the same number of medals. Giles and McGrath have had significantly less success than these two for example. Perhaps its due to the high profile of Keane and Giles and the fondness that anyone of my age who followed Ireland at the time will always have for McGrath.

I suppose its always going to be difficult to get a long list of 'internationally' recognised sportsmen as obviously you have to include GAA which is only played in Ireland and rugby, which is very much a minoriy sport worldwide.

IMO golf and snooker are not sports, they're games. I still have great respect for Harrington and Doherty and Higgins (especially Higgins, a childhood hero), anyone who can make a living by hitting the little ball into a hole deserves respect...but golf, a sport? It certainly should be kept out of the Olympics.

Horse racing is not a sport - its an activity to facilitate gambling, little more than that.

It should really be between Sonia or Eamon. Roche and Kelly should also be in the running but I would find it hard to vote for either given the cloud that hangs over their sport, but I'm still a huge fan, especially of Kelly. I'll probably vote for Alex Higgins though

If you think it should be between Sonia and Eamonn then you should vote for Sonia or Eamonn. Otherwise the poll has no credibility.

belcarra · 10-09-2009 12:51pm

gerard65 wrote: »

Exactly. I said TOP of golf. Do Woods or Harrington behave like the above? Trying to remember the last time your mates above finished in the top half of a major. They had talent no doubt about it, but staying at the top is very different.

Carbrera and Daly have won two majors each and Clarke was ranked in the top 10 in the World for 43 weeks between 2000 and 2002.

Response?

Pherekydes · 10-09-2009 12:52pm

--amadeus-- wrote: »

But by that logic / definition then darts, pool, billiards, snooker, 10 pin bowling and croquet are all sports.

And so is taxi driving... :pac:

For me, these sorts of discussions have to be narrowed down to sports firstly, individual sports secondly, and universal individual sports thirdly, so that rules out Keano, Bestie, and Harrie. Keano and Bestie achieved a lot with their respective Manchester United teammates, but what did they achieve without the comfort blankie of all-star United teams? Bestie with NI? Nowt. Keano with Ireland? Ran away. The fact that Harrie and Tiger are athletes is irrelevant to whether Golf is a sport. My son is a fine athlete and works as a butcher, so does this imply all butchers are athletes or that butchery (WTF?) is a sport?

I'm surprised there have been no votes for Bob Tisdall yet. Tingle: go stand in the bold corner. :pac:

Eamon Coghlan for me, though.

griffin100 · 10-09-2009 12:53pm

If you think it should be between Sonia and Eamonn then you should vote for Sonia or Eamonn. Otherwise the poll has no credibility.

I agree completely but what internet pole does? These things are usually highjacked by a group all voting for the same thing. A bog baller will probably win.

osnola ibax · 10-09-2009 12:55pm

--amadeus-- wrote: »

I don't think anyone still active / competitive should really be considered. You can only judge a carear fully at it's conclusion. That's why I wouldn't have Katie Taylor on there, although she is def one of our greatest current athletes.

Same goes for Harrington - great success to date.

And I'm pretty firmly with Tingle here - golf is a game of skill. Like darts or snooker. Unless there is physical exertion it's not a sport.

ridiculous arguments abound,

The dedication ph has to have to be top of his sport is absolutely phenomonal, and I bet he has had his hr above 100 on occassion. The amount of pressure that you are under to maintain the lead in the final holes is Also phenomonal. We've all seen ph go through many a pamper, but he has still won back to back British opens and a PGA championship. Of course it's. Sport that requires as much dedication as any other.

And the fact that he still hasn't finished his career make his achievements to date more remarkable and make him the finest sportsman the country has ever produced.

belcarra · 10-09-2009 12:56pm

--amadeus-- wrote: »

But by that logic / definition then darts, pool, billiards, snooker, 10 pin bowling and croquet are all sports.

But that is the definition...no matter what slant any individual places on it!
That definition was taken from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

This is the first response from www.dictionary.com:
"an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc."

Pherekydes · 10-09-2009 1:05pm

belcarra wrote: »

"an athletic activity..."

An athletic activity!

The Athletics community rests its collective case.

blinding · 10-09-2009 1:05pm

04072511 wrote: »

Mary Peter's won an Olympic Gold for GB so therefore is not irish. Shouldnt be on the list. Serious clutching at straws by having her there.

Catherina McKiernan, Bob Tisdall, Pat O'Callaghan, Jim Stynes (seen as so many gaa players get mentioned) deserve to be listed as nominees!

George Best is dodgey tbh! If GB had a team would he have represented them? Probably[/quote]

George was staunchy in favour of an all Ireland team.

clonmel1 · 10-09-2009 1:06pm

massive respect for keane as a player. a true irish warrior. loved ken in the snooker and harry now in the golf. harry is world class end of story. best golfer in world after woods. no question. but id have to give it to sonia, just for the sheer excitement/joy she gave to the country whenever she ran. best at her sport for good few years, ripped off by the chinese in the worlds one year, unlucky in 96 and 00 in the olympics. if she had won olympic gold there'd be no debate

Poncherello · 10-09-2009 1:33pm

Two votes so far for Roy so he wins the Boards poll !

Its very naive of you to say that Golfers heart rate does not rise above 100bpm. How high to you reckon Harringtons heart rate was when he hit his 5 wood at the 17th in the OPen 250yards into a cross wind to 6 feet.
They train pretty hard these days(physically and mentally) just for moments like that.

I'm no golfer but you have to respect what they do and especially Harrington who has worked so hard to get where he is. I'm not saying he is in my top 5 but its wong IMO to dismiss golf at the top level as not being a sport.

Eamonn Coughlan should be there too

christeb · 10-09-2009 1:36pm

lisbon_lions wrote: »

Katie Taylor not on the list? :eek: World champion in one of her disciplines by a country mile, and successfully representing her country in the other.

What's the other one - foxy boxing? Mudwrestling?

Hard Worker · 10-09-2009 1:40pm

christeb wrote: »

What's the other one - foxy boxing? Mudwrestling?

As posted earlier, she's a full Senior International player with the Republic of Ireland womens soccer team.

RoyMcC · 10-09-2009 1:46pm

Great thread this! Keep it going lads. I can't decide so I've gone with loyalty to my clubmate Ronnie Delany

MCOS · 10-09-2009 1:49pm

Hmm Ireland greatest sports person..

As an ambassador of sport to this country or
An all conquering legend or
An inspriational almost made it or
Most TV appearances...

Catch my drift. Everyone has a perspective and a belief. Everyone who has any interest in sport was moved by some sports person somewhere.

Ever hear a Liverpool fan and a ManU fan go at it?!

I interpreted it as who, through sport has made you most proud to be Irish

I voted Sonia

hunnymonster · 10-09-2009 1:52pm

i also voted Sonia on the basis that she is the person who's cv I would like to have.

Good point MCOS, there is also the category of who has given the most to the sport in Ireland without any headlines. For that you'd be hard pushed to beat the likes of our own hard worker who is quite literally a hard worker on behalf of a couple of sports in Ireland.

Pisco Sour · 10-09-2009 1:52pm

MCOS wrote: »

Hmm Ireland greatest sports person..

I interpreted it as who, through sport has made you most proud to be Irish

I voted Sonia

Couldnt have put it better myself! A serious thumbs up to that. I went for Sonia too.

Poncherello · 10-09-2009 2:06pm

Mmmmm .... then Jack Charltons team gets it from me

Greatest Irish sportsperson?

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