Suggestions for a fast car please!!

sleepysniper · 04-09-2009 8:19pm #1

Alright lads,

Basically as the title says I'm looking for a fast car.

So what can ye throw at me?

Want to avoid Fiats and Alfa's
Budget's upto 10 grand. Also want to keep it under 2.5 litre for tax reasons and also bear in mind in 21 insurance-wise! Oh ya will also be coming from a diesel & practicality is not really an issue.

So suggestions please:D

Mr Benevolent · 04-09-2009 8:26pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Alright lads,

Basically as the title says I'm looking for a fast car.

So what can ye throw at me?

Want to avoid Fiats and Alfa's
Budget's upto 10 grand. Also want to keep it under 2.5 litre for tax reasons and also bear in mind in 21 insurance-wise! Oh ya will also be coming from a diesel & practicality is not really an issue.

So suggestions please:D

Fast, sporty or fast & sporty? Is comfort a priority?

To get the ball rolling...

'01 A4 1.8T Quattro

macnab · 04-09-2009 8:43pm

I would look at a Toyota Celica GT4.

JHMEG · 04-09-2009 8:47pm

Or a Celica 190.

colm_mcm · 04-09-2009 8:49pm

Honda S2000

JHMEG · 04-09-2009 8:52pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Honda S2000

For a 21 year old? Jeez, I wouldn't like to be paying that premium!

colm_mcm · 04-09-2009 8:55pm

GT4 or a T Sport won't exactly be cheap to insure either

JHMEG · 04-09-2009 9:15pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

GT4 or a T Sport won't exactly be cheap to insure either

Neither of them are convertibles tho, and I'd say might be just about manageable.

Might be wrong tho.

peasant · 04-09-2009 9:34pm

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200934194968991

4k left for insurance ...and you don't look like a boyracer (well, tbh ...everybody will think you borrowed daddy's car ...but what the heck, it's fast anyway)

and this one http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200927194475929 is even faster

Saab Ed · 04-09-2009 9:46pm

Well its fast thats for sure

:D

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/C70/T5/200933194903775/advert?channel=CARS

sleepysniper · 04-09-2009 9:54pm

Confab wrote: »

Fast, sporty or fast & sporty? Is comfort a priority?

To get the ball rolling...

'01 A4 1.8T Quattro

Fast and sporty I guess lad!
Comfort aint a real priority so that rules out the Saabs/Volvo's.
Thanks for the suggestions so far, I like the idea of the GT4 so far, but insurance will probably rule that out.
S2000 is a class car but I dont see much point in a convertible in this country tbh!:)

JHMEG · 04-09-2009 9:56pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

S2000 is a class car but I dont see much point in a convertible in this country tbh!:)

You don't buy an S2000 cos it's a convertible, believe me. Take one for a spin and you'll understand

_Buck Rogers · 04-09-2009 10:28pm

skyline r32,33,34 or an early 1990's soarer.

Both have 2.5 twin turbo'd engines but good luck with insurance:D

B00MSTICK · 04-09-2009 10:51pm

What car are you driving currently OP?

CianRyan · 04-09-2009 11:34pm

You could pick up a Nissan GTR for that sort of money.
Just looking on pistonheads and there's loads.
There's plenty on carzone too.

They're definitely fast, I know a guy with an R34 with over 400bhp. Though that does have quite a few engine mods.
Still only has to pay tax for a 2.5L though.:rolleyes:

Donnelly117 · 05-09-2009 12:04am

peasant wrote: »

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200934194968991

4k left for insurance ...and you don't look like a boyracer (well, tbh ...everybody will think you borrowed daddy's car ...but what the heck, it's fast anyway)

and this one http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200927194475929 is even faster

absoulte rocket

bazz26 · 05-09-2009 12:28am

Audi TT Quattro:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200934194938940

BMW 325Ci:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200936195123331

Mazda RX-8:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200928194571859

Senna · 05-09-2009 1:49am

LOOK IN SIG:D

VVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Cheaper to insure than a vti civic as they have a smaller loading.

sleepysniper · 05-09-2009 11:21am

Thanks or the suggestions so far lads,

I havent any hope of geting insured on a Skyline, never mind the GTR!

Cant see your sig Senna Im still a newbie!

Toyota_Avensis · 05-09-2009 1:13pm

VW Bora,

Buy a TDi Diasel cheep (or go north)

and spend your savings on pimping it with spoiler, tints, adjustments etc

Mr Benevolent · 05-09-2009 1:37pm

Toyota_Avensis wrote: »

VW Bora,

Buy a TDi Diasel cheep (or go north)

and spend your savings on pimping it with spoiler, tints, adjustments etc

Uh, Boras are not fast. Or sporty. They're also awful looking yokes.

sleepysniper · 05-09-2009 1:44pm

Im liking the S2000 but they seem fairly pricey on Carzone.

I was looking at this, and am wondering what ye think of them in general?

Ferris · 05-09-2009 1:50pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Im liking the S2000 but they seem fairly pricey on Carzone.

I was looking at this, and am wondering what ye think of them in general?

I have one, they're a nice car alright and that one has some nice mods to up the power. They're fast, comfortable and reasonably reliable. One thing is that they're liable, designed that way in fact, to be steered on the throttle. They've no traction control either and can be a handfull in the wet. They defo demand respect.

_Buck Rogers · 05-09-2009 10:27pm

1200bhp http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1132147.htm

galwaytt · 05-09-2009 10:29pm

.....expand the budget a tiny bit, and buy my 968 Sport (manual) - classic insurance as a ++

Or, a guy at work has 270 bhp TT for 10.5k. Insurance same as a Golf, and it's still only 1.8

Pickled Tranee · 05-09-2009 10:37pm

Dodge challenger all the way

:D:D

sleepysniper · 07-09-2009 11:45am

Wel lads went about insurance on the 200sx but didnt get very far when I started declaring the mods on the car, I told them it has a performance exhaust, induction kit, uprated fuel pump and bigger injectors and a remap up to 250-300 bhp!......maybe I was being a bit too truthful?
They had no problem quoting me when the car is bog standard, I believe the insurance company have no way of determining if the car has been re-mapped? (maybe I could forget to mention the remap?)
And yes I do realise this may be bending the rules so no need for anyone to be getting on their high horses!

Atomic Pineapple · 07-09-2009 12:26pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Wel lads went about insurance on the 200sx but didnt get very far when I started declaring the mods on the car, I told them it has a performance exhaust, induction kit, uprated fuel pump and bigger injectors and a remap up to 250-300 bhp!......maybe I was being a bit too truthful?
They had no problem quoting me when the car is bog standard, I believe the insurance company have no way of determining if the car has been re-mapped? (maybe I could forget to mention the remap?)
And yes I do realise this may be bending the rules so no need for anyone to be getting on their high horses!

All they should need is an engineers report on the modifications carried out on the car

stealthyspeeder · 07-09-2009 12:34pm

Confab wrote: »

Uh, Boras are not fast. Or sporty. They're also awful looking yokes.

Supercharged V6 Bora's, 0-60 in around 6 seconds (288bhp), not slow, very sporty AWD handling, and from the only one which I have seen in the metal, very nice looking!

sleepysniper · 07-09-2009 12:42pm

draffodx wrote: »

All they should need is an engineers report on the modifications carried out on the car

Thanks, but how would one go about getting an engineers report on the mods?

Drummerboy08 · 07-09-2009 12:46pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Thanks, but how would one go about getting an engineers report on the mods?

It wouldnt be required when your actually insuring the vehicle as such, but when and if you have an accident, the insurance company will send out an engineer to inspect the vehicle, and to estimate damage caused.
Once he sees the un-declared mods, your in trouble.

c4cat · 07-09-2009 1:36pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Wel lads went about insurance on the 200sx but didnt get very far when I started declaring the mods on the car, I told them it has a performance exhaust, induction kit, uprated fuel pump and bigger injectors and a remap up to 250-300 bhp!......maybe I was being a bit too truthful?
They had no problem quoting me when the car is bog standard, I believe the insurance company have no way of determining if the car has been re-mapped? (maybe I could forget to mention the remap?)
And yes I do realise this may be bending the rules so no need for anyone to be getting on their high horses!

To be honest, there is no such thing as bending the rules on insurance. If you do not declare all yr Mods then the insurance becomes invalid which can lead to points on yr license for no insurance, which leads to even higher premiums you would have to pay, but since most 21 yr olds are totally immortal any way, and think nothing would ever happen the way many 21 yr olds drive their penile extensions......................

Henry Ford III · 07-09-2009 1:43pm

c4cat wrote: »

To be honest, there is no such thing as bending the rules on insurance. If you do not declare all yr Mods then the insurance becomes invalid which can lead to points on yr license for no insurance, which leads to even higher premiums you would have to pay......................

...and a 3rd party claim can bankrupt you.

Atomic Pineapple · 07-09-2009 1:52pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Thanks, but how would one go about getting an engineers report on the mods?

Depends on your insurance company either they will want to send out there own engineer or/but it is more common to just get one off any SIMI registered mechanic.

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

It wouldnt be required when your actually insuring the vehicle as such, but when and if you have an accident, the insurance company will send out an engineer to inspect the vehicle, and to estimate damage caused.
Once he sees the un-declared mods, your in trouble.

it can be required when looking for insurance, if theres significant engine mods done then the insurance company will want a report so they know whats on the car and to be satisfied that it is safe, same as if an engine transplant has taken place

galwaytt · 07-09-2009 2:25pm

c4cat wrote: »

..If you do not declare all yr Mods then the insurance becomes invalid which can lead to points on yr license for no insurance, .....................

Henry Ford III wrote: »

...and a 3rd party claim can bankrupt you.

No, No, No, No, No and No.

Once you have a Certificate of Insurance, you cannot be prosecuted for no insurance, and your licence will not be touched.

Yes, you are not declaring things, yes the insurance company won't like it, yes they will cancel the policy forthwith, but your cover is intact until such time as they do.

If there's a claim pending, or other costs/issues, then you are liable to a civil case by the insurance company against you to recoup monies. But that has absolutely nothing to do with cover under the RTA, and your licence.

Ferris · 07-09-2009 3:38pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Wel lads went about insurance on the 200sx but didnt get very far when I started declaring the mods on the car, I told them it has a performance exhaust, induction kit, uprated fuel pump and bigger injectors and a remap up to 250-300 bhp!......maybe I was being a bit too truthful?
They had no problem quoting me when the car is bog standard, I believe the insurance company have no way of determining if the car has been re-mapped? (maybe I could forget to mention the remap?)
And yes I do realise this may be bending the rules so no need for anyone to be getting on their high horses!

Easy solution, you buy the car and we'll swap all the mods off it onto my car and all the standard bits back

:D.

The 'remap' is actually a programmable chip that is swapped into the ECU so it is detectable. Its probably this crowd: www.h-dev.co.uk

unkel · 07-09-2009 3:48pm

Galwaytt explained that well. You're covered all right, but the small print:

galwaytt wrote: »

you are liable to a civil case by the insurance company against you to recoup monies.

And in a big case that means you will be paying them back until the day you die. You'll never get a mortgage, etc.

Rather silly not to declare modifications in that light, isn't it?

Biro · 07-09-2009 4:51pm

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

Supercharged V6 Bora's, 0-60 in around 6 seconds (288bhp), not slow, very sporty AWD handling, and from the only one which I have seen in the metal, very nice looking!

Supercharged V6 Bora's weren't on sale officially. And they might grip well with 4WD, but that doesn't make them sporty. And no, they aren't nice looking!

stealthyspeeder · 07-09-2009 5:15pm

Biro wrote: »

Supercharged V6 Bora's weren't on sale officially. And they might grip well with 4WD, but that doesn't make them sporty. And no, they aren't nice looking!

The bhp and acceleration time sounds pretty sporty to me! each to their own with looks but I think it this looks mean!

c4cat · 07-09-2009 8:15pm

galwaytt wrote: »

No, No, No, No, No and No.

Once you have a Certificate of Insurance, you cannot be prosecuted for no insurance, and your licence will not be touched.

Yes, you are not declaring things, yes the insurance company won't like it, yes they will cancel the policy forthwith, but your cover is intact until such time as they do.

If there's a claim pending, or other costs/issues, then you are liable to a civil case by the insurance company against you to recoup monies. But that has absolutely nothing to do with cover under the RTA, and your licence.

Once it has been discovered you have deceived an insurance co, then see how difficult to get insurance cover in the future................

Barr · 07-09-2009 8:39pm

stealthyspeeder wrote: »

Supercharged V6 Bora's, 0-60 in around 6 seconds (288bhp), not slow, very sporty AWD handling, and from the only one which I have seen in the metal, very nice looking!

Lumping a V6 into a farmers wagon hardly makes it a sporty car. Couldn't think of much worse (although a supercharged passat may come close

)

sleepysniper · 09-09-2009 4:36pm

unkel wrote: »

Galwaytt explained that well. You're covered all right, but the small print:

And in a big case that means you will be paying them back until the day you die. You'll never get a mortgage, etc.

Rather silly not to declare modifications in that light, isn't it?

Right so then, would anyone like to suggest insurance companies that are modifacation friendly? Original quote was with Quinn, I might ring them up and see if they'd insure me with just a performance exhaust and induction kit? Would it be worth a shot or would I be wasting my time?

Atomic Pineapple · 09-09-2009 4:42pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Right so then, would anyone like to suggest insurance companies that are modifacation friendly? Original quote was with Quinn, I might ring them up and see if they'd insure me with just a performance exhaust and induction kit? Would it be worth a shot or would I be wasting my time?

Quinn will cover most modifications alright with only a slight increase in the premium

sleepysniper · 09-09-2009 4:52pm

Quinn quoted me €1260 on an unmodified 200sx but then I rang them and added the following mods: performance exhaust, indution kit, uprated fuel pump, bigger injectors and a remap to about 250-300bhp, (fotgot to add FMIC). They rang back and said they cant cover me due to the modifications.

Maybe if I remapped to around 200bhp....

im 21 btw with 4 years claims free driving and full clean license for 3 years.

SV · 09-09-2009 5:13pm

How do you feel about hot hatches?

sleepysniper · 09-09-2009 5:16pm

SV wrote: »

How do you feel about hot hatches?

wouldn't be too interested in them to be honest maybe at a later stage.
Want to try and get awway from the hatchbacks for a while and looking for something more sporty than a saloon, so thats why I'd be looking at coupes!

Sqaull20 · 09-09-2009 5:37pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

wouldn't be too interested in them to be honest maybe at a later stage.
Want to try and get awway from the hatchbacks for a while and looking for something more sporty than a saloon, so thats why I'd be looking at coupes!

What about a Mercedes CLK coupe, insurance is grand, 2l supercharged pack 184bhp with a top speed of 145mph.

Atomic Pineapple · 09-09-2009 5:44pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Quinn quoted me €1260 on an unmodified 200sx but then I rang them and added the following mods: performance exhaust, indution kit, uprated fuel pump, bigger injectors and a remap to about 250-300bhp, (fotgot to add FMIC). They rang back and said they cant cover me due to the modifications.

Maybe if I remapped to around 200bhp....

im 21 btw with 4 years claims free driving and full clean license for 3 years.

Insure the car as standard first, then ring them up and say you've had to change a few bits and have bought modifications for the car.

Did they ask you for a power figure or did you just tell them?

Graham_B18C · 09-09-2009 6:31pm

sleepysniper wrote: »

Quinn quoted me €1260 on an unmodified 200sx but then I rang them and added the following mods: performance exhaust, indution kit, uprated fuel pump, bigger injectors and a remap to about 250-300bhp, (fotgot to add FMIC). They rang back and said they cant cover me due to the modifications.

Maybe if I remapped to around 200bhp....

im 21 btw with 4 years claims free driving and full clean license for 3 years.

They'll cover mods but that car sounds fairly heavily modded, and the 200sx is 200+ bhp as standard...so you'd have to get a map to take the power away!!!

What about a Sylvia S15 Spec S, 150 bhp, seriously good looking, fairly quick, RWD and its a coupe! To be honest, if I had 10k, i'd buy an Evo for 6 and use the 4 left over to help me run it!!

Like this...http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200936195115034

kuro_man · 10-09-2009 11:00am

Can't believe nobody's mentioned a Golf GTI or Octavia (great boot) VRS yet!

How about
VW Corrado
Porsche Boxster
Audi ur Quattro
Merc 190 Cosworth
BMW Z3
BMW Z4
Smart Roadster
Fiat Coupe 20VT
Open Speedster/Vauxhall vx220

sleepysniper · 10-09-2009 4:12pm

Sqaull20 wrote: »

What about a Mercedes CLK coupe, insurance is grand, 2l supercharged pack 184bhp with a top speed of 145mph.

Dont really like the merc image dude! besides im too young to be driving a merc!:p

draffodx wrote: »

Insure the car as standard first, then ring them up and say you've had to change a few bits and have bought modifications for the car.

Did they ask you for a power figure or did you just tell them?

Think I told them the remap figure, she was asking me aswell did each mod increase power, such as the exhaust etc. I told her it does.

Grahamo999 wrote: »

They'll cover mods but that car sounds fairly heavily modded, and the 200sx is 200+ bhp as standard...so you'd have to get a map to take the power away!!!

What about a Sylvia S15 Spec S, 150 bhp, seriously good looking, fairly quick, RWD and its a coupe! To be honest, if I had 10k, i'd buy an Evo for 6 and use the 4 left over to help me run it!!

Like this...http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=200936195115034

I was lookig at the S15's but if I were to get one it would have to be the Spec R which are still fairly expensive, nah man Evo's wouldnt appeal to me as much as the Silvia's in general especially with their desperate runnig costs!

Suggestions for a fast car please!!

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