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TEAM TO WIN EPT EVENT WANTED

  • 01-09-2009 10:22am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23


    TEAM TO WIN EPT EVENT WANTED


    THE PROPOSAL

    Send 5 players to win EPT events.
    4 events left, London, Warsaw, Portugal, Prague.
    The goal is to win one of these with a team.


    How

    Get 100 players (non players) to put up 1000 euros each.
    Total 100,000 euro.
    enter 5 players at 5000 each = 25,000.
    4 events left x 25,0000 = 100,000.


    Selecting 5 players to go

    Option 1 put up candidates and vote.
    Option 2 have closed tournament on a website
    Option 3 have a draw


    The money
    5 people will open a bank account
    and nothing can be withdraw without the 5 peoples knowledge

    p.s. This Proposal is open to improvement, but not open to cynics or negative feedback.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    wat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    also if you have nothing construtive to add, please don't post petty comments, tyvm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter



    p.s. This Proposal is open to improvement, but not open to cynics or negative feedback.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭TripleAce


    Why 5 players to play 4 events each and not 20 players to play one each? Or 10 to play 2 each?

    Option 2 would be more fun I think.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    thats great Triple, thats a good idea, the proposal is not set in stone.
    we need to find a better/cheaper way of taking on these big money spinners, instead of people going it alone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭Mullicker


    why are you doing this? whats in it for you? whats in it for the the players? Do the players own % of themselves? If he is 100% staked wont 100% of any winnings have to be shared amongst the stakees?


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,858 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I think before you have any right to ask people not to be cynical about this you have to provide more details about why you are doing this, how money is split, and several other things I probably can't think of at the moment.

    Now for the cynical part of my reply. Chances of this happening in the (or similar) format, 0.0045%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    5starpool wrote: »
    Chances of this happening in the (or similar) format, 0.0045%

    with a margin of error of 5% imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    read post above re: why doing this.
    it is very difficult to win these on your own


    1 person pays 1000, they get 1% of prizepool
    1 person pays 5000, they get 5% of prizepool

    once again, the proposal is an idea open to change, not set in stone.

    does anybody not agree, these events are very difficult to win, and this way you put in a good team, with a realtive small investment i.e. 1000 for 100,000 in tournaments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭Mullicker


    Are you looking for players that are members of boards specifically? chances of 100 members here putting up €1000 for this are zero. If you were a long time poster and well known, this still would have a very small chance of happening.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS FOR ME.

    IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO WIN ONE OF THESE ON YOUR OWN.

    PUT IN A GOOD TEAM AND YOU HAVE SOME CHANCE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭smurph


    THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS FOR ME.

    IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO WIN ONE OF THESE ON YOUR OWN.

    PUT IN A GOOD TEAM AND YOU HAVE SOME CHANCE.

    clamper??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    I am not well know.
    But would like to see well know members of boards poker
    to open the account, so people see it is transparent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    You want 100 people to send you €1,000 each? Nice idea. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    kincem, that is not true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    My name is Cian,

    it has zero to do with me, i have nothing to gain from this.

    just putting up a new idea, thats all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy



    IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO WIN ONE OF THESE ON YOUR OWN.

    PUT IN A GOOD TEAM AND YOU HAVE SOME CHANCE.

    Yeah, a 5x chance of winning 1/5 the money....:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭Mullicker


    Ok there is nothing in it for you financially unless you are buying a stake, so what are your reasons for this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    Mullicker wrote: »
    Ok there is nothing in it for you financially unless you are buying a stake, so what are your reasons for this?



    Just a new approach to trying to get a big score for realitive small outlay.

    1000 for 100,000 in tournaments
    with 5 good players
    and 4 tournaments

    also is does not have to be EPT
    the proposal is not set in stone
    open up your thinking


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 427 ✭✭GKidd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    OP, nobody knows you here (unless you're DBC), so why would they get involved in organising this with you? Or send you money lol.
    Are you 15 years old and have recently watched alot of poker on youtube?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    lafortezza wrote: »
    OP, nobody knows you here (unless you're DBC), so why would they get involved in organising this with you? Or send you money lol.
    Are you 15 years old and have recently watched alot of poker on youtube?



    IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO WIN ONE OFF THESE TOURNAMENTS ON YOUR OWN.

    i have zero to do with the money, 5 or more well know respected people would look after the money.

    i am 42 years of age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭SpencerJames


    Monorail!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    Monorail!!!!!!!!!


    it is no wonder why the scandanavian poker players do so well,
    as they share the burden, they use their heads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    It's not a team game.
    it is no wonder why the scandanavian poker players do so well,
    as they share the burden, they use their heads.

    Are they really? I don't see it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Is it true that its difficult to win one of these on your own? I heard that somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Icarus152


    I am not well know.
    also is does not have to be EPT


    Are you foreign?

    THIS IS A LOCAL SHOP FOR LOCAL PEOPLE!

    THERE'S NOTHING FOR YOU HERE!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Fair enough.

    Check through the amount of entrants €1k+ poker tournaments have attracted in this country over the past three years, and consider the amount of regular €5 / €10+ NLHE games that run around the country. I'd be skeptical that you would have enough players with the means (never mind the interest) to comfortably invest €1000 into this idea.

    Then you have the problem of selecting who gets to actually play the events. A guy from Waterford paying €1000 is going to want Nicky Power to play the tournaments, when a guy paying €1000 from Monaghan wants four guys with a Northern accent to get the gig. Who takes the responsibility for judging between a plethora of prospective players?

    And finally - and most importantly - you have the question of who holds the money. Who has the type of widely held trust amongst all of the Irish poker community to take responsibility for escrowing and managing €100k for a lengthy period? Hint: the type of person with such credibility probably wouldn't go near this idea because it isn't worthy of their time.

    I appreciate that it's an idea and there is no harm going through hypothetical (particularly on this platform), but you're a long way from a home run on this one I think.



    It does not have to be 1000 euros
    the propsal is not set in stone

    Selecting 5 players to go

    Option 1 put up candidates and vote.
    Option 2 have closed tournament on a website
    Option 3 have a draw


    The money
    5 people or more will open a bank account
    to do anything with the acoount the 5 must sign for it
    and nothing can be withdraw without the 5 peoples knowledge
    the 5 people would be well know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    I think I should get the parachute, because I'm great. In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Irish Iron


    im starting to think its very difficult to win an ept on your own


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭dangerousdavid


    Irish Iron wrote: »
    im starting to think its very difficult to win an ept on your own
    It does not have to be 1000 euros
    the propsal is not set in stone


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,858 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Even if you were to enter all 20 into one EPT and they could collude openly with each other (which obviously is not the case) then the chances of one person winning it would be pretty small anyhow.

    Also, I would have no interest in playing an event where, if I won, I would only get 1% of my winnings. Even if "THIS PROSAL IS NOT SET IN STONE", there is no proposal that is similar that is going to happen.

    On another note, this whole thread rings a bell similar to the one that was rung with the 'American' lad that wanted to come over here and start a series of poker tournaments with some crazy idea. Must look into those similarities a bit more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter


    It does not have to be 1000 euros
    the propsal is not set in stone

    Using 2 accounts in the same thread is a pretty big fail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Not understanding that he was taking the piss out of OP is bigger fail!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    why so many hostile responses.
    its only a proposal to get people to think different
    maybe this is what is wrong with Ireland
    we are just a greedy little nation, who think we are looking after
    everybody, but in reality only looking out for ourselves.
    we should use our thinking head instead of your money/greedy head.


    Once again, look how the scandanavians do it re poker,
    and look how their country operates,
    and maybe their is a correlation in that


    the only person who was constructive was luckylloyd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭bantee


    Wait a minute, is this proposal set in stone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    Grafter wrote: »
    Using 2 accounts in the same thread is a pretty big fail.


    i have only one account, whats this about, nuts


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Pokerproposal


    Another example of teams


    think off all the english players who come over here to play
    do you think they play as individuals
    get real
    they all come in teams

    this is why as a very small community we should look at
    something like this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭max_power


    Plenty of Irish players swap %'s regularly or stake people but this just isn't going to work, even if it's not set in stone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    I think its a great idea. I might be interest in putting up 5k and nominate Ivey as a player.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭toHex


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    but of course...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    You really haven't thought this through.
    The goal is to win one of these with a team.
    The discussion of a staked team of Irish players at a major event could get those players earmarked as colluders.
    Get 100 players (non players) to put up 1000 euros each.
    Total 100,000 euro.
    enter 5 players at 5000 each = 25,000.
    4 events left x 25,0000 = 100,000.
    What reasonably skilled tournament player would want to play a big tournament when he gets such a tiny % of the payout if he wins. What's in it for him?
    Selecting 5 players to go
    Who nominates these players? Who decides who votes? Are all votes equal? Is some anonymous poster on the internet going to have the casting vote?
    Option 1 put up candidates and vote.
    Option 2 have closed tournament on a website
    Option 3 have a draw
    2 : so whoever luckboxes one online tournament represents a 100000EUR syndicate?
    3 : leave it to chance?
    The money
    5 people will open a bank account
    and nothing can be withdraw without the 5 peoples knowledge
    This is just fail.

    All of my criticisms are obviously not set in stone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    Where can i find said stone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Lurker1977


    I apply as an investor. Here are my credentials:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭YULETIRED


    Hello Op,
    If there were 5 players good enough to score over 100k in those events they wouldn't be looking for a deal like this. Just think if you win 100k you only get your money back? You'd need a really big score from 5 players and it's highly unlikely (unless you get Dermot Blaine) for it to be profitable for them or you.
    You would be better off getting 20 of your mates/investors to put 1 player in and hoping to score from that.
    I'm surprised there is not more of this type of thing on here actually, 20 or so send one player to an EPT and hope to score
    There is no harm in putting ideas forward though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Yuletired, always the voice of reason!!


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