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1911 Online Census.

  • 31-08-2009 11:55pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭


    I found a link to the online census on the history and heritage forum. Very interesting stuff I've spent the last three hours enthralled by it, I found my great grand parents entry for the census, AND!!!!


    after a bit of snooping, I found Éamon De Valera's entry in the census with his wife Sinead and son Vivion!!!


    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000124143/

    Granted he wasn't very hard to find but I'm still fairly chuffed.


    So who can you find?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Escapism


    I was looking at that a few weeks back, a bit addictive!! I even looked up Michael Collins but turns out he was in London at the time! ...

    I found all my grandparents and great grandparents and their familes BUT i also found out that my grandad on my Mam's side was .... a lovechild, back in 1888, bit of a scandal in that time but he ended up happily married and had 9 children :)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    eamonns servant couldnt read? well theres a turnout for the books


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭markok84


    Ya I think the big fella was workin' as a clerk in a post office in London at the time. He left Ireland in 1910.

    Interestingly enough I found my Great grandparents and their families on my mothers side but haven't found a tap on the fathers side, they mustn't have bothered fillin' out the forms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭markok84


    eamonns servant couldnt read? well theres a turnout for the books

    His 3 month old son couldn't read either:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I tried to look for my real great-grandma, who abandoned my nan, but I'm not sure which part of Dublin she was from :(

    Looking for some more family now - it's addictive!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Escapism


    markok84 wrote: »
    Interestingly enough I found my Great grandparents and their families on my mothers side but haven't found a tap on the fathers side, they mustn't have bothered fillin' out the forms.

    It's only online for a certain number of counties yet so they mightn't be online yet Markok84 !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Escapism


    brummytom wrote: »

    Looking for some more family now - it's addictive!


    TOTALLY addictive!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭markok84


    Escapism wrote: »
    It's only online for a certain number of counties yet so they mightn't be online yet Markok84 !!


    Maybe, I thought 500 entries in Cork for the name was a bit low. Having said that I reckon not filling out the form is a viable reason too, the lazy b..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut


    Its mad -in the drop down menu you can select 'Kings County and Queen County'. Easy to forget they had other names.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭hairyfairy00


    My great-grand father was a magistrate, coroner and a GP (busy guy), he also had 3 domestic servants to help take care of the 9 children!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭truecrippler


    Is it just 1911?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭This_Years_Love


    I checked out my great-grandparents on that site and they were loaded!! They had tons of servants (well 15 but to me thats a lot) so they really must have had a lot of money. The question is: What the fcuk happened to all that money???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭truecrippler


    Wow... Interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Damn you Mark, I was just about to go to sleep but came back to AH to see was anything worth reading.

    That was an hour and a half ago. Ridiculously addictive stuff, even recorded the stock levels on our family farm back in the day.

    Thankfully none of the family I've found so far were listed as "lunatics".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    I found country relatives :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,613 ✭✭✭✭Clare Bear


    Very interesting. Thanks OP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    William B Yeats & Lady Gregory, Augusta
    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000209724/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    I found an entry which has a Landed Gentry type couple in their 60's with a guest. Religon is listed as "brethren" and under the guests amount of children he has "don't know". :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000192850/
    Age 27, 8 children, 1 living :(

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000223689/
    Incandescent boy.... does he play with lightbulbs or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭ciagr297


    so highly addictive....been on the phone with my dad trying to figure out which family was belonging to us (numerous hits for my surname)
    looks like i am occupied for the day in work then:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    We had two servants back in the day, 21st Century progress me arse!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Corb


    Can someone please help me on how to use this? Anything I type in no results come up :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    My Great Great grand-mother was 98 at the time :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Corb wrote: »
    Can someone please help me on how to use this? Anything I type in no results come up :confused:

    I tried looking for Hitler as well, but he obviously wasn't here, nor was Genghis Khan.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Corb wrote: »
    Can someone please help me on how to use this? Anything I type in no results come up :confused:

    maybe eircom is blocking it :pac:

    put in surname, hit search and you should get results


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Corb


    maybe eircom is blocking it :pac:

    put in surname, hit search and you should get results
    No. It says "No documents with no instances" :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    Interesting, on the left of the page, it says to write in Irish if you can only spek Irish, English & Irish if you can speak both, or leave blank if otherwise. So back then was there not many people who could only speak English?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Escapism


    I think its deadly that I can see my great grandfathers writing!!! sadly i found no rich relatives .... there goes the dream :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    My grandparents managed to mess up on pretty much every box on the form...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭chillywilly


    James Connolly and his family:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Lotts_Road__South/10339/

    he lists his birthplace as Monaghan but he was actually born in Scotland!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭Riddle101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭GeeNorm




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭Euro_Kraut




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭markok84


    GeeNorm wrote: »


    Oh you found me out. :rolleyes:

    It's actually easier to find Dev's census entry than finding that article from 2007, besides like I read the Irish Times!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    "If Deaf and Dumb; Dumb only; Blind; Imbecile or Idiot; or Lunatic:" If that was still there how many of us would sneakily mark family members as Lunatics or Idiots? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    This seems kind of bad, job titles "laundress"... uses the prison form, under crime it says "not committed", no other info

    Edit: found more info on this place, The Good Shepherd Magdalen Laundry Cork
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRbdJ3npAHA

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Cork_No__4_Urban__part_of_/Carrignaveigh/389625/

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001863835/


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    bigkev49 wrote: »
    That was an hour and a half ago. Ridiculously addictive stuff, even recorded the stock levels on our family farm back in the day.


    Where did you find stock?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    Found my Da's grandparents house. His Mother was 3 at the time and they had a 90 year old lodger in the house with them. He's listed as a farm labourer. WTF is a 90 year old doing labouring on a farm?

    Are they going to this for any more census?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    Michael Collins (I hate Fine Gael but I had to see what he was up to in 1911).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    Escapism wrote: »
    I think its deadly that I can see my great grandfathers writing!!! sadly i found no rich relatives .... there goes the dream :)

    Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure these forms were filled in by people going from house to house. I don't think it was the homeowners themselves.

    I've been looking at census information from 1901 and 1911 over the Summer for work and a lot of the forms have the same handwriting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    Scien wrote: »
    Same happened for me, then i 'browsed by place' until i found my Town & street name. Found my Great Grandfathers gaff complete with 4 Childers & a servant from Tipperrary.

    The PDFs are great. Fair play to the National Archives for putting them up. Must have been a royal pain in the bottom scanning Thousands of Documents like that.


    Edit: Nice to see James Joyce had some Cork Blood in him! :D

    Thats a 1901 census return! Where did you find that?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭lucylu


    I think they are still updating the 1901 Census online. The 1911 census was well preserved.
    The next cenus was not until 1926

    Old census returns are valuable historical and genealogical records. Unfortunately, the returns for 1813, 1821, 1831, 1841 and 1851 censuses were destroyed when the Custom House was burned in 1922.

    The 1861 and 1871 census returns were deliberately destroyed. The 1881 and 1891 census returns were pulped because of the paper shortages during the 1914-18 War. Of the pre-Independence censuses only the 1901 and 1911 census returns remain intact today.

    The 1901 and 1911 censuses were undertaken under legislation which made no provision for the confidentiality of the information recorded on them. These were made available as public records in 1961 via a warrant made by the Minister for Justice under the Public Records (Ireland) Act, 1867. They are the most frequently used records in the National Archives mainly for genealogical research.

    Visit the National Archives site: www.nationalarchives.ie/censusrtns.html

    The extensive use of the 1901 and 1911 census records and the public acceptability of their availability after 50-60 years prompted the inclusion of a provision in the Statistics Act, 1993 which allows census returns to be made available as public records 100 years after the relevant census.

    This means that the 1926 census records will be open to the public by the National Archives in the year 2026. By that time almost all of the persons covered in the 1926 census will be deceased. Although there was demand for a shorter period it was considered that 100 years was necessary to comply with the spirit of confidentiality promised to respondents.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure these forms were filled in by people going from house to house. I don't think it was the homeowners themselves.

    I've been looking at census information from 1901 and 1911 over the Summer for work and a lot of the forms have the same handwriting.


    I think it would depend on the census taker.
    One of the forms handwriting is sooooo bad it looks just like mine. That has to be genetics.

    One of my greatgrandmothers kept Roscommon people as domestic slaves. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Jeanious


    Jaysus, in that prison one: "If deaf and dumb, dumb only, blind, lame, decrepit"....PC brigade my ar$e!

    I thought that a lot of the handwriting looks the same alright, but mother of jaysus, that'd be a labour-intensive way of doing it wouldnt it? Maybe they all just had similar writing back in the day?!

    Actually i just checked a couple of returns, and the signature of the Head of the Family is the same as the actual writing on the form.

    Beside the "enumerator's signature" it says something to the effect of "i state this form is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge"...sure how would he know if its true and accurate...by searching the house and questioning everyone?!!

    Either way, seriously interesting find OP!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Awesome, thanks. Gunna do a bit of research now as soon as me ma gets back.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I can't read anything on those PDFs. The whole thing seems a little pointless too.


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