Dole queues rocket - baby boom follows!

mike65 · 31-08-2009 12:03pm #1

2008 saw the highest number of births recorded in Ireland since 1896. In total, 75,065 births were recorded.

The figures are published today by the Central Statistics Office.

The CSO has also published the top ten names chosen for babies last year. Jack tops the boys' names while Ava was the most popular choice for girls.

The CSO also notes that for the first time since 1990, the fertility rate is running at a level that will see the population replacing itself in the long run, ignoring migration.

Its like a throwback to the old days - poverty & permenantly pregnant. Except
back then Jack was "merely" a nickname and Ava was the name of a movie star.

stovelid · 31-08-2009 12:06pm

mike65 wrote: »

Ava was the name of a movie star.

I personally know people who all called their children this, albeit all with slightly different spellings.

Ditto (two people) Jack.

genericguy · 31-08-2009 12:20pm

it's cos everybody is being tight with their moneys now, and sexing is generally free. it's also far better than the poxy cinema at e10.40 a ticket.

Long Onion · 31-08-2009 12:22pm

genericguy wrote: »

it's cos everybody is being tight with their moneys now, and sexing is generally free. it's also far better than the poxy cinema at e10.40 a ticket.

Where is this free sexing you speak of - pics please

oldyouth · 31-08-2009 12:27pm

Am I reading the report right WTF

6 girls under 15 giving birth to their 1st child
3 girls aged 16 giving birth to their 2nd child
1 girl aged 17 giving birth to their 3rd child
1 girl aged 19 giving birth to their 4th child

Page 13 http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0831/cso.pdf

CCCP^ · 31-08-2009 12:30pm

genericguy wrote: »

it's cos everybody is being tight with their moneys now, and sexing is generally free. it's also far better than the poxy cinema at e10.40 a ticket.

Sexing? Well it's my opinion that we all pay for sex, one way or the other.

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 12:33pm

Is there anyway of finding out how many of these children were born to Irish people?

Long Onion · 31-08-2009 12:35pm

bill_ashmount wrote: »

Is there anyway of finding out how many of these children were born to Irish people?

What has that got to do with the price of turnips?

mike65 · 31-08-2009 12:36pm

They are all Irish now!

genericguy · 31-08-2009 12:37pm

CCCP^ wrote: »

Sexing? Well it's my opinion that we all pay for sex, one way or the other.

ah man, that's cynical.

...although i suppose i do have to feed the girl in the cellar occasionally...

JONJO THE MISER · 31-08-2009 12:41pm

bill_ashmount wrote: »

Is there anyway of finding out how many of these children were born to Irish people?

Yeah i think the reason we have such a high birth rate last year was because of Immigrants having childers, where i live you can see lots and lots of Eastern european and african Immigrants with 2 and 3 little kids on the go, and man some of the women are so hot. I think some of them are having kida Just to get the childers allowance to be honest.

ScumLord · 31-08-2009 12:41pm

I blame the parents.

oldyouth wrote: »

Am I reading the report right WTF

6 girls under 15 giving birth to their 1st child
3 girls aged 16 giving birth to their 2nd child
1 girl aged 17 giving birth to their 3rd child
1 girl aged 19 giving birth to their 4th child

Page 13 http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0831/cso.pdf

All seems pretty normal to me.

Long Onion · 31-08-2009 12:42pm

genericguy wrote: »

ah man, that's cynical.

...although i suppose i do have to feed the girl in the cellar occasionally...

Evil Basta*d

Yours etc

Kate & Gerry

WithCheesePlease · 31-08-2009 12:43pm

Has coppers got its own section yet?

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 12:47pm

mike65 wrote: »

They are all Irish now!

No, they're not. Read up on your law.

Novella · 31-08-2009 12:49pm

oldyouth wrote: »

Am I reading the report right WTF

6 girls under 15 giving birth to their 1st child
3 girls aged 16 giving birth to their 2nd child
1 girl aged 17 giving birth to their 3rd child
1 girl aged 19 giving birth to their 4th child

Page 13 http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0831/cso.pdf

4 kids at 19, talk about not learning your lesson!

genericguy · 31-08-2009 12:49pm

Long Onion wrote: »

Evil Basta*d

Yours etc

Kate & Gerry

ironically madeleine is probably the only recipient of free secks.

Wertz · 31-08-2009 12:56pm

Novella wrote: »

4 kids at 19, talk about not learning your lesson!

From the sounds of it she's learned her lesson when it comes to maths and economics...

Interesting that the UK are seeing similar rises in birth rates. It would be foolish to think that immigrants are not playing a role in this rise, in both countries...

mike65 · 31-08-2009 12:57pm

bill_ashmount wrote: »

No, they're not. Read up on your law.

I mean spiritually, in a loving way.

FutureTaoiseach · 31-08-2009 12:59pm

It will make it harder to make the "population-replacement" argument for more liberal immigration-policies, as some in the political-elite have done.

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 1:00pm

Wertz wrote: »

From the sounds of it she's learned her lesson when it comes to maths and economics...

Interesting that the UK are seeing similar rises in birth rates. It would be foolish to think that immigrants are not playing a role in this rise, in both countries...

Immigrants are responsible for the majority of the increas IMO. Irish and British TFRs are well below replacement, especially Britain. Even with population momentum now coming into place, I don't see how this increase can be attributed to Irish people. Interesting that the cso will publish wheter or not the mother is married but not her nationality.

FutureTaoiseach · 31-08-2009 1:01pm

bill_ashmount wrote: »

Immigrants are responsible for the majority of the increas IMO. Irish and British TFRs are well below replacement, especially Britain. Even with population momentum now coming into place, I don't see how this increase can be attributed to Irish people. Interesting that the cso will publish wheter or not the mother is married but not her nationality.

Bill_ashmount, I understand, in relation to your question, that previous statistics reported in the Independent (perhaps 2007 or 2008 I don't remember) indicated that 1/6th of births were to foreign-nationals.

greendom · 31-08-2009 1:02pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote:

;61877804 I think some of them are having kida Just to get the childers allowance to be honest.

What brings you to that conclusion? Would the proportion of Eastern Europeans having kids for that reason would be more or less than the general population?

For my tuppence I think that is complete nonsense; people have children for many reasons but very few to receive childcare allowance. Very shortsighted of them if they do anyway. Bringing up children costs a lot more than childcare allowances

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 1:03pm

FutureTaoiseach wrote: »

It will make it harder to make the "population-replacement" argument for more liberal immigration-policies, as some in the political-elite have done.

Indeed. The greatest scam ever published throughout the world. When you have 5 million, you need 6 million. America now has 307 million and they are saying they need 450 million. When they get there they will need more, that's how economics works. Fair play to the Japanese for resisiting the United Nations calls for 10 million immigrants every 5-10 years to be allowed into their country.

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 1:04pm

FutureTaoiseach wrote: »

Bill_ashmount, I understand, in relation to your question, that previous statistics reported in the Independent (perhaps 2007 or 2008 I don't remember) indicated that 1/6th of births were to foreign-nationals.

Interesting. Thank You.

Daroxtar · 31-08-2009 1:06pm

oldyouth wrote: »

Am I reading the report right WTF

6 girls under 15 giving birth to their 1st child
3 girls aged 16 giving birth to their 2nd child
1 girl aged 17 giving birth to their 3rd child
1 girl aged 19 giving birth to their 4th child

Page 13 http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0831/cso.pdf

And how many prosecutions for child sex abuse/statutory rape or whatever the law calls it?

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 1:12pm

mike65 wrote: »

I mean spiritually, in a loving way.

I have no problem with that, nor do I when they are eventually made legally Irish.

Overheal · 31-08-2009 1:16pm

Well wtf did you expect when you pay people to stay at home and get themselves bored and horny?

Long Onion · 31-08-2009 1:17pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah i think the reason we have such a high birth rate last year was because of Immigrants having childers, where i live you can see lots and lots of Eastern european and african Immigrants with 2 and 3 little kids on the go, and man some of the women are so hot. I think some of them are having kida Just to get the childers allowance to be honest.

If there are so many hot immigrant women around you just dying to have babies for the money, what are you doing sitting in watching the Rose of Tralee?

Some friggin people:rolleyes:

Blisterman · 31-08-2009 1:28pm

Ava?
I don't know a single person with this name. Where did it come from?

FutureTaoiseach · 31-08-2009 1:30pm

Blisterman wrote: »

Ava?
I don't know a single person with this name. Where did it come from?

An anglicisation of Aoife?

Mr Benevolent · 31-08-2009 1:33pm

Ava is a very old name.

Stark · 31-08-2009 1:39pm

Daroxtar wrote: »

And how many prosecutions for child sex abuse/statutory rape or whatever the law calls it?

I think in most cases they're being seeded by other teenagers.

Data_Quest · 31-08-2009 2:17pm

Interesting: looking at the report if the population continues to increase at the same rate as the last 10 years then the population would nearly double by 2050.

AnonoBoy · 31-08-2009 2:45pm

Blisterman wrote: »

Ava?
I don't know a single person with this name. Where did it come from?

Ah you hear that name all the time. There's even a song about it - Ava Maria.

IvyTheTerrible · 31-08-2009 2:47pm

My cousin called her baby Ava. She says it's the Irish for Eve. But I thought Aoife was?

Overheal · 31-08-2009 2:49pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ava_Adore

oldyouth · 31-08-2009 3:27pm

Novella wrote: »

4 kids at 19, talk about not learning your lesson!

Methinks her house hath wheels that doth allow her travel from child benefit office to child benefit office

ScumLord · 31-08-2009 3:45pm

bill_ashmount wrote: »

Immigrants are responsible for the majority of the increas IMO. Irish and British TFRs are well below replacement, especially Britain. Even with population momentum now coming into place, I don't see how this increase can be attributed to Irish people. Interesting that the cso will publish wheter or not the mother is married but not her nationality.

I don't know about that, if there's one thing the Irish excel at it's out breeding everybody else. Irish families are still fairly large compared to any foreign families around here. Even the Catholic Brazilians don't have as many babies as the Irish.

Overheal wrote: »

Well wtf did you expect when you pay people to stay at home and get themselves bored and horny?

More porn.

Min · 31-08-2009 3:52pm

Babies born in 2008 were likely to have been conceived before the economic boom turned to bust......

the_dark_side · 31-08-2009 3:56pm

genericguy wrote: »

it's cos everybody is being tight with their moneys now, and sexing is generally free. it's also far better than the poxy cinema at e10.40 a ticket.

'sexing'...... where are you from man? Is it just me or has anyone else ever heard this word before?

JONJO THE MISER · 31-08-2009 4:01pm

Min wrote: »

Babies born in 2008 were likely to have been conceived before the economic boom turned to bust......

Yeah but that was in 2008, by all accounts there has been a massive baby boom this year and some hosipitals cant cope, we could see double the 2008 Figure in 2009. And if we get through to the world cup and do good at it all bets are off for the amount of sporgs being born, it will be bedlam.

FutureTaoiseach · 31-08-2009 4:05pm

Min wrote: »

Babies born in 2008 were likely to have been conceived before the economic boom turned to bust......

Were that true, birth rates wouldn't be so explosively high in Africa for example. I have another theory. A lot of bored, frustrated unemployed people means they look to procreation as an outlet for that boredom/frustration.

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 4:26pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't know about that, if there's one thing the Irish excel at it's out breeding everybody else. Irish families are still fairly large compared to any foreign families around here. Even the Catholic Brazilians don't have as many babies as the Irish.

More porn.

Irish TFR is 1.85. However we have population momentum on our side for a few years yet. Long term replacement level is 2.1. We are beneath that but our population is still fine without immigration. We are not losing people yet due to the large number of children born in the 70's who are now entering their child rearing years.

The Brazilian TFR is 2.21, much higher than Ireland. The biggest rates exist in Africa, where some countries are reaching 5 or 6+, hence one of the reasons Africas population will go from 200 million in the last century to 1,900 million by 2050.

starn · 31-08-2009 4:41pm

Data_Quest wrote: »

Interesting: looking at the report if the population continues to increase at the same rate as the last 10 years then the population would nearly double by 2050.

Good lots of new tax payers, who will be able to pay for my pension.

bill_ashmount · 31-08-2009 4:59pm

starn wrote: »

Good lots of new tax payers, who will be able to pay for my pension.

hmmmm.....indeed

Conor108 · 31-08-2009 5:49pm

ScumLord wrote: »

if there's one thing the Irish excel at it's out breeding everybody else. Irish families are still fairly large compared to any foreign families around here.

The government should issue this notice to all women so

Dole queues rocket - baby boom follows!

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