Global Warming

Halla Basin · 27-08-2009 4:00pm #1

Has anyone noticed that in the Day after Tomorrow, one of the big storms that freezes people in seconds was centered over Scotland...? ... Erm... Forget about the recession and focus on killer cold, maybe? Why isn't the government preparing for this?

Phlann · 27-08-2009 4:01pm

Because global warming is a lie.

Jeremy Clarkson said so.

javaboy · 27-08-2009 4:02pm

Has anyone noticed in the film Mars Attacks that the aliens came down and killed loads of people? Why isn't the government preparing for this?

Wazdakka · 27-08-2009 4:03pm

Phlann wrote: »

Because global warming is a lie.

Jeremy Clarkson said so.

Agreed..
Global warming to a point of being a danger to the planet is complete bunk.

Also I'd like to point out that Jeremy Clarkson is a loud, opinionated, mad old pillock with all the journalistic ability of a bacon sandwich.

Halla Basin · 27-08-2009 4:04pm

javaboy wrote: »

Has anyone noticed in the film Mars Attacks that the aliens came down and killed loads of people? Why isn't the government preparing for this?

Please, as a mod you should try to show a little more restraint. This is a serious topic and I don't want any silly comments.

Four-Percent · 27-08-2009 4:07pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in the Day after Tomorrow, one of the big storms that freezes people in seconds was centered over Scotland...? ... Erm... Forget about the recession and focus on killer cold, maybe? Why isn't the government preparing for this?

Forget the movie and focus on the real world, maybe?

MikeC101 · 27-08-2009 4:08pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Please, as a mod you should try to show a little more restraint. This is a serious topic and I don't want any silly comments.

Assuming you're being serious with that post...

You're wondering why the government isn't preparing for an event depicted in a fictional movie?

Is it specifically people freezing in Scotland you're worried about, or do you think they should be building some sort of massive sea wall to protect New York from tsunamis as well?

To calm your nerves:
Q. In the movie, a giant hurricane descends from the Arctic, freezing people with -150° F wind. Is this possible?
A. No. Hurricanes, by definition, gather strength from heat and moisture from warm ocean waters. They lose strength over land, and when the air or water temperature falls below tropical levels. Hurricanes cannot form in the Arctic. In addition, no storm could grow large enough to cover the entire northern hemisphere. Storms and strong winds form because of a gradient in atmospheric pressure. You can have a strong gradient (and therefore a strong wind) over only relatively small distances. It cannot be stormy everywhere at once.

In addition, a chill of minus 150° F is colder than any temperature so far observed in nature. The lowest recorded temperature on Earth was minus 128.6° F at Vostock, Antarctica on July 21,1983. (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env040.htm) The coldest recorded temperature in North America was minus 81.4° F at Snag in the Yukon Territory, on February 3, 1947.

from http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455&tid=282&cid=9948

Long Onion · 27-08-2009 4:08pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Please, as a mod you should try to show a little more restraint. This is a serious topic and I don't want any silly comments.

Hmmmmmmm perhaps should have thought of this before you based your thread on the bumbling musings of a Hollywood script writer then.

I am also of the "Global warming is a total myth" school of thought.

Jeremy Clarkson is indeed a mad old opinionated bollix ... but I can't help but find him amusing, he annoys me in the same way as Michael Winner and George Hook - it confuses me.

My name is URL · 27-08-2009 4:09pm

Phlann wrote: »

Because global warming is a lie.

Jeremy Clarkson said so.

The theory that humans are causing it may be a lie, I'm not sure if many people would say it's not actually happening though

I think it's a natural cycle personally

Halla Basin · 27-08-2009 4:10pm

MikeC101 wrote: »

Assuming you're being serious with that post...

You're wondering why the government isn't preparing for an event depicted in a fictional movie?

Is it specifically people freezing in Scotland you're worried about, or do you think they should be building some sort of massive sea wall to protect New York from tsunamis as well?

Absolutely! We should do everything in our power to prevent even a single human death because of Global Warming.

ScumLord · 27-08-2009 4:11pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in the Day after Tomorrow, one of the big storms that freezes people in seconds was centered over Scotland...? .

No I was gouging my eyes out at the time because the film was so ridiculous.

Snakeblood · 27-08-2009 4:11pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that in the Day after Tomorrow, one of the big storms that freezes people in seconds was centered over Scotland...? ... Erm... Forget about the recession and focus on killer cold, maybe? Why isn't the government preparing for this?

Roland Emmerich's next movie is 2012. Going by the trailer, I think we should wait to see the end of that movie before making any long term plans.

javaboy · 27-08-2009 4:11pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Please, as a mod you should try to show a little more restraint. This is a serious topic and I don't want any silly comments.

I was simply pointing out that expecting real life governments to take their cues from fictional movies is a bit silly.

Reagan's Star Wars project anyone?

Halla Basin · 27-08-2009 4:12pm

ScumLord wrote: »

No I was gouging my eyes out at the time because the film was so ridiculous.

Yes, I suppose it was very inconvenient for you, right?

Biggins · 27-08-2009 4:12pm

Lets be honest, the Government fail badly at preparing for a lot of things so far.
Whats more, the only person you can trust regards preparations is yourself.
(and you'd probably do a darn better job too to boot!)

If some of these things come to pass, two things will be left alive.
Cockroaches and survival nuts who will be busy laughing later in between bursting out shouting "We told ya so!"

MikeC101 · 27-08-2009 4:13pm

ScumLord wrote: »

No I was gouging my eyes out at the time because the film was so ridiculous.

Halla Basin wrote: »

Yes, I suppose it was very inconvenient for you, right?

Yes Scumlord, I'd imagine it was quite the inconvenience for you, with your vested interests in keeping the truth about global warming suppressed!

Ah, you thought we didn't know about that, didn't you?

Halla Basin · 27-08-2009 4:15pm

Biggins wrote: »

Lets be honest, the Government fail badly at preparing for a lot of things so far.
Whats more, the only person you can trust regards preparations is yourself.
(and you'd probably do a darn better job too to boot!)

If some of these things come to pass, two things will be left alive.
Cockroaches and survival nuts who will be busy laughing later in between bursting out shouting "We told ya so!"

Exactly, exactly. By the way, perhaps we could collaborate on our survival plans? I'm thinking of buying some property on the cheap in central Africa, do you want join funds?

Turtwig · 27-08-2009 4:15pm

Firstly,

It's not about saving the planet, that will always be here : it's about saving the people.

Secondly, TDAF is what one can only dub as being based on a different universe from ours - perhaps M theory or the likes can explain it

Thirdly, Global Warming is REAL!

MikeC101 · 27-08-2009 4:16pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Exactly, exactly. By the way, perhaps we could collaborate on our survival plans? I'm thinking of buying some property on the cheap in central Africa, do you want join funds?

I have some friends in the Cote D'Ivoire Ministry of Finance who could help out.

Long Onion · 27-08-2009 4:16pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Yes, I suppose it was very inconvenient for you, right?

Al Gore and get the popcorn ...

... good lord jebus that was awful - sorry

OP, could i perhaps interest you in some of these magic beans?

DrumSteve · 27-08-2009 4:17pm

ah sure its only scotland.

ScumLord · 27-08-2009 4:17pm

MikeC101 wrote: »

Yes Scumlord, I'd imagine it was quite the inconvenience for you, with your vested interests in keeping the truth about global warming suppressed!

Ah, you thought we didn't know about that, didn't you?

Your too late to stop operation "feed baked beans to the cows so they fart more and slowly release more CO2 into the atmosphere speeding up global warming" FBBTTCSTFMASRMCO2ITASSUGW for short. Muhahahahahahahahaha

Halla Basin · 27-08-2009 4:18pm

Long Onion wrote: »

Al Gore and get the popcorn ...

... good lord jebus that was awful - sorry

OP, could i perhaps interest you in some of these magic beans?

Haha very funny. We'll see who's laughing when you're frozen solid just out of reach of me and Biggins' insulated bunker.

Wazdakka · 27-08-2009 4:19pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Exactly, exactly. By the way, perhaps we could collaborate on our survival plans? I'm thinking of buying some property on the cheap in central Africa, do you want join funds?

A-haa

PapaQuebec · 27-08-2009 4:20pm

Anyone seen the documentary "The Great Global-Warming Swindle"? Well worth a look especially as it features many of the very experts the IPCC report quote so liberally - and guess what? - they all claim to have been seriously misquoted!!! One of them (forget the name without watching the film again) is the author of the temp v's CO2 graph that Al Gore uses to such effect in his movie - except that Gore presented the graph upside down!!!!

Halla Basin · 27-08-2009 4:23pm

Wazdakka wrote: »

A-haa

No, I'm not a troll. It's amazing how conditioned the population is to dismiss all inconvenient environmental claims.

Wertz · 27-08-2009 4:29pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

No, I'm not a troll. It's amazing how conditioned the population is to dismiss all inconvenient environmental claims.

Jesus f*cking wept. It's a a bloody MOVIE.

I believe in human influenced climate change but FFS, the hollywood depiction isn't where you want to be sourcing your facts or your ethics.

Alternative answer...in the event of such cataclysmic sudden onset ice age we're obviously all going to cram into NYC library and burn books whilst we wait for Dennis Quaid and a team of huskeys...

Wazdakka · 27-08-2009 4:31pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

It's amazing how conditioned the population is to dismiss all inconvenient environmental claims.

It's amazing how many people want to go half's on some land in Africa for when the plot of a b grade movie comes true.

How many times do I have to tell you all??
It's MY Africa!

Sincerely yours,

Robert J Mugabe.

Biggins · 27-08-2009 4:33pm

PapaQuebec wrote: »

...except that Gore presented the graph upside down!!!!

Point of order:
While not saying your wrong or agreeing with you, surely if the above was the case, a LOT more (then or since) would have pointed that out and secondly, used it every time they could to hit him with it!

hidinginthebush · 27-08-2009 4:35pm

PapaQuebec wrote: »

Anyone seen the documentary "The Great Global-Warming Swindle"? Well worth a look especially as it features many of the very experts the IPCC report quote so liberally - and guess what? - they all claim to have been seriously misquoted!!! One of them (forget the name without watching the film again) is the author of the temp v's CO2 graph that Al Gore uses to such effect in his movie - except that Gore presented the graph upside down!!!!

Apparently people wroth into the irish times complaining about this being shown on telly because the film was so wrong. Just goes to show, normal people shouldn't be allowed near science. Besides, statistics are like signposts for drunk men, more for leaning on than showing the way.

I'm of the global warming is a natural process school of thought.

Anyway, the great global warming swindle is a great film, take that pinkos!

Biggins · 27-08-2009 4:36pm

Halla Basin wrote: »

Exactly, exactly. By the way, perhaps we could collaborate on our survival plans? I'm thinking of buying some property on the cheap in central Africa, do you want join funds?

Well start by building your safe room (http://www.fema.gov/plan/prevent/saferoom/residential.shtm). Then work on getting some form of water transport that is less prone to high waves and thus sinking (for example: http://www.yachtsurvey.com/sinking.htm or http://www.boat-links.com/Atkinco/Dinks/TinyRipple.html).

Then I recommend people getting good guides on hunting, snipering, winter protection, etc.

I'd personally buy a plot somewhere in central north America or Central Europe, not Africa.

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