The newest Nokia. The 5230 is a cheaper 5800

Davy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDtF_qzABj4

3.2" touch screen with full-screen QWERTY keyboard and handwriting recognition. Paired with Facebook and Twitter.

33 hours of music playback time, a 3.5mm headphone jack and memory expandable up to 16GB via a microSD card. It doesnt have wifi which wont suit some people but its fairly cheap so will get a lot of touchscreen phones into the market imo.

Two versions of the phone will launch – a standard device costing €149, and in some select areas a Comes With Music version will be available for €259. The Nokia 5230 is expected to begin shipping in the fourth quarter of 2009.


The Three sisters:

5800, 5530, 5230

Rsaeire

Nokia are really trying to cover all bases with their 5xxx series touchscreen handsets. Fair play to them, as they have to at least attempt something given their current loss of market share.

Davy

and since 5800 is the biggest selling phone in the eu i guess they are trying similar to it

Rsaeire

Davy wrote: »

and since 5800 is the biggest selling phone in the eu i guess they are trying similar to it

I was going to say "who else but Nokia would flood the market with several handsets that look virtually identical and are based upon a winning formula?", but then I thought of Sony Ericsson, Motorola and Apple who have done, and still do the, same thing.

If it ain't broke... just remove a few features and drop the price. :cool:

Alanstrainor

I hope this means that nokia will give us 5800 owners better firmware and added features like kintetic scrolling and a nicer homescreen. Well fingers crossed anyway.

No stylus? Well at least i can't seem to see one, unless they expect us to grow uber nails.

Mimikyu

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Rsaeire

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Below are a few of the main differences.

5230

- 3.2" screen
- 3G
- 2 MP camera
- No Wi-Fi
- A-GPS

5530

- 2.9" screen
- No 3G
- 3.2 MP camera
- Wi-Fi
- No A-GPS

Bob_Harris

The 5230 looks like my perfect phone.

3G, GPS, S60 5th, relatively cheap.

Any updates on when the 5230 will be available in Ireland?

Johnny Bitte

Damn, the 5230 looks good but with no wifi its a major minus.
GF might go for it and I might go for the 5530.
I have a question that hopefully someone can answer.
The 5800 from Asia has some kinda of wifi restrictions.
Do the 5230 and 5530 have the same restriction?

Rsaeire

The_Goose135 wrote: »

Damn, the 5230 looks good but with no wifi its a major minus.
GF might go for it and I might go for the 5530.
I have a question that hopefully someone can answer.
The 5800 from Asia has some kinda of wifi restrictions.
Do the 5230 and 5530 have the same restriction?

If you're referring to how the 5800 had Wi-Fi removed when it was launched in China, then you have nothing to worry about with regard to the European 5530's Wi-Fi capabilities; they're still intact.

Mimikyu

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Davy

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Ye, i think they have an exclusive on it. Meant to say it the other, thanks for reminding me

Mimikyu

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Davy

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Dont think so, might be to late for the Christmas, i think i heard might be early next year instead.

Mimikyu

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Davy

If you don't mind it only being 2g then its a nice handset, go with a edge network and you will fine

Brian

Making a phone inferior to the 5800 is quite a feat =P

BostonB

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Why you sell the 5800?

lilywhitearmy

I read somewhere that o2 will be doing the 5530.

I am in the market for a new phone, preferably a Wi-fi phone.

My question is, would I need a 3g connection? I use the internet a lot on my phone but the lack of 3g is the only thing leaving me in doubt about this phone.

rizzee

lilywhitearmy wrote: »

I read somewhere that o2 will be doing the 5530.

I am in the market for a new phone, preferably a Wi-fi phone.

My question is, would I need a 3g connection? I use the internet a lot on my phone but the lack of 3g is the only thing leaving me in doubt about this phone.

No you dont need a 3g connection for Wifi

BostonB

rizzee wrote: »

No you dont need a 3g connection for Wifi

i dont think think that's the question he asked....


Op does your current phone have 3g and I not at you happy with the speed? What do you use the internet for and how much so you use/download?

lilywhitearmy

BostonB wrote: »

i dont think think that's the question he asked....


Op does your current phone have 3g and I not at you happy with the speed? What do you use the internet for and how much so you use/download?

My phone was 3g til it packed in. I used it for tv sometimes, but mainly general browsing ie. forums, facebook etc.

With the advent of free wi-fi (can these phones 'tap' into free wi-fi hotspots ala laptops?), and having wi-fi at home, I get the feeling I wouldn't be too reliant on 3g.

rizzee

I can't believe it

@ 189.99 for the 5530 its a very good price, especially since its cheaper and better than the 5800 ( aint hard tbh :P)

Davy

o2 now have it sale for €199 payg for from free on bill, meteor will have to drop their "only on meteor" line now

Bob_Harris

rizzee wrote: »

I can't believe it

@ 189.99 for the 5530 its a very good price, especially since its cheaper and better than the 5800 ( aint hard tbh :P)

Better? How do you figure that with no 3G and no GPS and smaller screen?

I got a brand new 5800 Unlocked for €205 + 15 delivery. I'd have expected the 5530 and 5230 to be around the €150 mark.

karltimber

what type of web usage - mins or hours wise would need a data plan.

I am looking at the hero or the 5800 - will use wifi at home but need web access (to view stocks) out and about. Is 3g enough for checking webpages - is a data plan needed at all ?? un-sure what to get and a plan or not.

k

Bob_Harris

karltimber wrote: »

what type of web usage - mins or hours wise would need a data plan.

I am looking at the hero or the 5800 - will use wifi at home but need web access (to view stocks) out and about. Is 3g enough for checking webpages - is a data plan needed at all ?? un-sure what to get and a plan or not.

k

I'm on 3pay and can get 1GB addon for 10euro for the month. That's ~34MB per day. A massive amount really for a mobile device. Checking boards.ie, rte.ie and radiotimes.com for about 30mins a day on my 5800 clocked up about 3MB/4MB per day.

On O2, pre pay, you can basically get up to 50mb a day for 99cent. If you don't use it you don't pay, if you only use 10kb, you pay 20c (2c per KB), once you reach 50KB, it stays at 99c up until 50MB, after that it's 2c per KB again.

If you were to check a webpage daily, you'll always run up 99cent as you will always use more than 50KB. 99cent * 30 = €29.70 a month.

I'd say bundles are they way to go if you plan on regular usage.


3G is fine for checking webpages. Even GPRS does if your not in any particular rush. Mobile versions are handy if your signal level isn't great.

BostonB

lilywhitearmy wrote: »

My phone was 3g til it packed in. I used it for tv sometimes, but mainly general browsing ie. forums, facebook etc.

With the advent of free wi-fi (can these phones 'tap' into free wi-fi hotspots ala laptops?), and having wi-fi at home, I get the feeling I wouldn't be too reliant on 3g.

I think relying on WiFi when you are out and about is a pain. There aren't that many free wifi spots around.

If you intend using the internet for more than email, when you out and about, I'd get a 3G phones.

strecker

BostonB wrote: »

I think relying on WiFi when you are out and about is a pain. There aren't that many free wifi spots around.

If you intend using the internet for more than email, when you out and about, I'd get a 3G phones.

Well... I live 6 miles outside Castlebar. No 3g. Even in Castlebar 3G is patchy at best. I rarely switch 3g on.
For browsing I use opera mini, and with om there really is no noticable difference in speed betw 2g and 3g (tha's not just my 'impression' - Opera have confirmed that again and again). I only occasionally switch on 3g for large important email attachments, though mostly I'd use a pc to handle that.
I'm sure there are more people out there who can live without 3g or wifi and yet would like to enjoy a feature-rich handset.
So, although I personally would avoid the 5530 after my 5800 and n97, the reason is not the absence of 3g.
Similarily, I'd also like there to be more non-gps variants of handsets. A lot of people don't need gps...or, don't WANT gps. Just like there are camera fans who wouldn't compromise and rather carry a proper cam than pay for a half-baked one in a phone... So, the more variations, the better imho.
(of course, seeing people with iPhones or high-end walkman phones who then use an iPod for music on the go is a bit odd...but that's another thread... :P )

BostonB

strecker wrote: »

...For browsing I use opera mini, and with om there really is no noticable difference in speed betw 2g and 3g (tha's not just my 'impression' - Opera have confirmed that again and again). I only occasionally switch on 3g for large important email attachments...

If theres no difference why do switch on for emails? I assume if you don't have decent 3G in your area, there won't be much difference. The assumption would need to be you do have decent 3G for it to be worth it.

strecker wrote: »

So, the more variations, the better imho.
(of course, seeing people with iPhones or high-end walkman phones who then use an iPod for music on the go is a bit odd...but that's another thread... :P )

I assume because most of them, had far worst SQ than a decent MP3 player, and it usually savages your battery. At least for someonen like me who only charges their phone and MP3 player every 4 or 5 days.

I agree with you, theres alll types of users. I like having a decent camera in my phone.

strecker

BostonB wrote: »

If theres no difference why do switch on for emails? I assume if you don't have decent 3G in your area, there won't be much difference. The assumption would need to be you do have decent 3G for it to be worth it.



I assume because most of them, had far worst SQ than a decent MP3 player, and it usually savages your battery. At least for someonen like me who only charges their phone and MP3 player every 4 or 5 days.

I agree with you, theres alll types of users. I like having a decent camera in my phone.

Opera mini makes no difference when dealing with a large file attached to an email! A 3mb jpeg is a 3mb jpeg... That's why occasionally I switch to 3g

Get your point re mp3 players though. Hadn t considered that aspect. And: same here; have come to appreciate a good phone-cam... That is the one and only reason why I wanna 'upgrade' from E71. Not easy though

BostonB

strecker wrote: »

Opera mini makes no difference when dealing with a large file attached to an email! A 3mb jpeg is a 3mb jpeg... That's why occasionally I switch to 3g ...

I don't get you. A faster connection is, well, faster. Regardless of broswer.

I hear you on the E71. Dire camera. I think alot of these Nokias have the same 3.2 camera. I was thinking of going N86 myself. But kinda gone off spending a lot on phones. The E71 has a great calendar, and battery life, which I use a lot.

ripcord

Bob_Harris wrote: »

Better? How do you figure that with no 3G and no GPS and smaller screen?

I got a brand new 5800 Unlocked for €205 + 15 delivery. I'd have expected the 5530 and 5230 to be around the €150 mark.

Hey bob harris - where did you get the unlocked 5800 for 205 ? I would be interested in getting an unlocked 5230. Would like to stay with vodafone....

Cheers

Bob_Harris

ripcord wrote: »

Hey bob harris - where did you get the unlocked 5800 for 205 ? I would be interested in getting an unlocked 5230. Would like to stay with vodafone....

Cheers

Ebay.

Some guy in the UK, similar to this

EDIT:
Or just get it cheaper straight from Vodafone :pac:

Zonda999

The 5530 is now 140€ online from Meteor.

140€ for a touch screen Nokia(That can be got hassle free, i.e NOT on ebay) is very tempting! The 5800 has also dropped in price to 190€ online, no sign of the 5230 yet

chrislad

Zonda999 wrote: »

The 5530 is now 140€ online from Meteor.

140€ for a touch screen Nokia(That can be got hassle free, i.e NOT on ebay) is very tempting! The 5800 has also dropped in price to 190€ online, no sign of the 5230 yet

And there won't be (at least on Meteor) this side of Christmas.

Zonda999

https://store.meteor.ie/phones/nokia_5230/#/in_all_phones

Now on meteor, 120€ online so presumably 130€ in store, would the touchscreen on this be as good as the 5530? Thinkin about a replacement for my tocco lite!

Btw, worth noting the 5530 comes with a 4gb micro sd card whereas this does not

SickBoy

I love my 5530

estreetb

Zonda999 wrote: »

https://store.meteor.ie/phones/nokia_5230/#/in_all_phones

Now on meteor, 120€ online so presumably 130€ in store, would the touchscreen on this be as good as the 5530? Thinkin about a replacement for my tocco lite!

Btw, worth noting the 5530 comes with a 4gb micro sd card whereas this does not

you can get the 5230 on vodafone for 90euro if you switch networks or 110euro i think if new connection

Mimikyu

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