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Cyprus vs. Republic of Ireland - 05/09/09 [mod warning post #293]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Is Steven Reid near fitness?

    Is he ever?

    Keith O'Neill MKII


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭madma


    PCros wrote: »
    I really do think that we will win well, I think the squad will be looking for a bit of redemption. As another poster said Cyprus don't have that spark they had the last couple of years.

    I dont know how so many people think we will win well. our redemption in the home game was a measly 1-0 win.. cyprus are strong at home and have had great results.. im praying for a win i can only see us winning by 1 goal, i think it will be another 1-0 but we need given at his best (im sure he will,best player we've got in our team) and i really hope our midfield get it together... looks like its gonna be gibson/whelan again,it would be great if andy reid was thrown in,he'd be out to prove he can do a better job!

    gonna be at at electric picnic..a trip to a boozer in stradbally is in order!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Big Knox


    Flying out there tonight with a few mates. Week in Ayia Napa and the game so all in all should be an enjoyable week.

    Was over there for the infamous 5 - 2 beating aswell but definatly alot more confident this time around. Was a serious session last time even when we got hammered so just praying for a win this time because it will be mental!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    Why are people calling for Andy Reid to be recalled to the squad all the time? What about the likes of Keith Fahey, Chris McCann and Rory Delap? All are better options imo and are getting regular games for their clubs.

    As for this game, Ireland to win 2-0 for a change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    andyman wrote: »
    Why are people calling for Andy Reid to be recalled to the squad all the time? What about the likes of Keith Fahey, Chris McCann and Rory Delap? All are better options imo and are getting regular games for their clubs.

    As for this game, Ireland to win 2-0 for a change.

    Why not the 3 you mentioned AND Andy Reid?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    madma wrote: »
    our redemption in the home game was a measly 1-0 win


    worse!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    Good article from some of the players talking about that horrible game 3 years ago....

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/lsquoit-was-our-worst-moment-in-an-irish-jerseyrsquo-1876697.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    7.30pm kick off? Ah FFS :mad:


    You think thats bad? I'm in f*cking Darwin now, chances of finding somewhere showing the game at 4am... slim to none


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭angel01


    Hopefully we can perform better. I reckon a 2-0 victory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭veXual


    So apparantly some of the players had to fly economy last night which has caused a bit of a upset in the camp according to the radio this morning...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yet more "Ashurdeyllbeghrand-ism" from the FAI.

    Absolute clowns, the excuse given was that "not many planes have as many business class seats as we'd need". :rolleyes:

    Do a bit of homework, and charter a plane that does have the required number of seats then.

    Pure amateurism by Big JD and his cronies. Again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭eoin99


    Just typical FAI, the players have every right to be pissed off with such a lack of professionalism. Nothings ever going to change with them.

    According to the link, Brady and Alan Kelly gave up their business class seats to players in fairness to them.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0904/ireland_flights.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    eoin99 wrote: »
    According to the link, Brady and Alan Kelly gave up their business class seats to players in fairness to them.

    Wowsers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    Des wrote: »
    Yet more "Ashurdeyllbeghrand-ism" from the FAI.

    Absolute clowns, the excuse given was that "not many planes have as many business class seats as we'd need". :rolleyes:

    Do a bit of homework, and charter a plane that does have the required number of seats then.

    Pure amateurism by Big JD and his cronies. Again.

    Who gave the excuse? I bet he could have phrased it differently and said "There weren't enough business class for the suits and the players, so all the suits got one and then we had a little chat about which of the players we liked the best and then gave them business class seats".

    Jokers indeed. As far as I'm concerned, I think all football fans and non-gobshítes will agree, let the players fly on a players plane with them and the staff only on board. Every gets the comfort and privacy they need and don't have the irritation of idiot old geezers in suits pretending to be your friend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Draupnir wrote: »
    Who gave the excuse?
    Some clown on Morning Oirland this morning.
    Draupnir wrote: »
    I bet he could have phrased it differently and said "There weren't enough business class for the suits and the players, so all the suits got one and then we had a little chat about which of the players we liked the best and then gave them business class seats".
    Indeed
    Draupnir wrote: »
    Jokers indeed. As far as I'm concerned, I think all football fans and non-gobshítes will agree, let the players fly on a players plane with them and the staff only on board.
    I bet you there's at least one clown on here defending the FAI in this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    Was the plane not chartered? Thats crazy! Wouldn't have bothered them that much if that was the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    So the players who didnt get business class seats threw their toys out of the pram. GROW UP LADS FFS +1 thats like school boys wanting seats down the back of the bus!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    ^^

    told you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    So the FAI are "playing down" the incident....sure thats what they're best at! :rolleyes:

    Anyway back to the game, I would say a squeaky 2-1 win, in similar manner to the Georgia home game (i.e, going behind, lucky equaliser, Robbie Keane gets winner of his shoulder)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    So the players who didnt get business class seats threw their toys out of the pram. GROW UP LADS FFS +1 thats like school boys wanting seats down the back of the bus!

    It's hardly like wanting a seat down the back of the bus! It's more like "I'm a professional athlete who has to play a top level football match in 2 days. I'd appreciate it if I could be as comfortable as possible whilst cooped up on an airplane for 3+ hours so that I can be as well rested and prepared for the match."

    Why do the suits need business class? They are just going to be strolling around corporate drinking free drink, eating volavantes and not even watching the game.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    ^^ Or off his ear!

    Yes back to the game lads! No point getting into a strop about the FAI!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    So the FAI are "playing down" the incident....sure thats what they're best at! :rolleyes:

    It just goes to show how behind the times the FAI are, they could easily have span some story about the "current economic climate" or some b.s. like that, although no one would still believe them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    The fool to blame for all this is not Delaney but Ray Tracey, who organizes all the FAI travel.

    He was on Saturday Sport on RTE radio 1 a few weeks ago talking about organizing the travel and all that and how professional it was etc, but now he can't even count the seats on a plane

    He was also going on about how wonderful Saipan was as a venue and how he was 110% and still is 110% behind Mick on that whole matter.

    Edit : Actually Ray probably was more concerned about filling the seats with the sycophants who pay his company above and beyond the odds just to travel with the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    The fool to blame for all this is not Delaney but Ray Tracey, who organizes all the FAI travel.

    He was on Saturday Sport on RTE radio 1 a few weeks ago talking about organizing the travel and all that and how professional it was etc, but now he can't even count the seats on a plane

    He was also going on about how wonderful Saipan was as a venue and how he was 110% and still is 110% behind Mick on that whole matter.

    So he is a fool, who has been doing his job poorly for years then. So you dont reckon the people that keep employing him (jobs for the boys style?) are to blame?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    gucci wrote: »
    So he is a fool, who has been doing his job poorly for years then. So you dont reckon the people that keep employing him (jobs for the boys style?) are to blame?

    Yep, the FAI keep on employing him.

    They are to blame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    While it once again proves what a bunch of retards the FAI are, it's hardly a big deal. Let's try to keep some perspective!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Draupnir wrote: »
    It's hardly like wanting a seat down the back of the bus! It's more like "I'm a professional athlete who has to play a top level football match in 2 days. I'd appreciate it if I could be as comfortable as possible whilst cooped up on an airplane for 3+ hours so that I can be as well rested and prepared for the match."

    Why do the suits need business class? They are just going to be strolling around corporate drinking free drink, eating volavantes and not even watching the game.


    Jzz "some of the players were in economy" not all of them, the players should be walking around as much as possible anyway to avoid deep vein thrombosis .. .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭RedPlanet


    Can i watch a stream of this game somewhere?
    Anybody know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    Jzz "some of the players were in economy" not all of them, the players should be walking around as much as possible anyway to avoid deep vein thrombosis .. .

    22 players walking around an airplane to avoid deep vein thrombosis on a three hour flight..........................

    there are not enough dots in the world to express my disbelief at your argument


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Notice I said "as much as possible"..

    Dot away! whatever turns you on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭eoin99


    RedPlanet wrote: »
    Can i watch a stream of this game somewhere?
    Anybody know?

    There should be a stream on RTE.ie I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    RedPlanet wrote: »
    Can i watch a stream of this game somewhere?
    Anybody know?

    There should be plenty. Try http://www.rojadirecta.com/ usually good for links.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭kenco


    The FAI are (fill in your own blanks)...

    Back to the game. Any away game for us is always frought with problems. Cyprus can be a turning point I hope. I figure we will score alright so it down to not sitting back and letting them come at us or imploding again. I cant see this happening as in fairness to Trap he is a past master at the 1-0 win. Also as we saw in the Italy game he took Keogh out of the equation when it wasnt working.

    I think 1-0 or 2-1 to Ireland. A draw is not the end of the world but the win gives us hope and hopefully gets the monkey off our back.

    The other two group games should also be watched closely Italy should beat Georgia away but the manner of the victory will be interesting. Also if Bulgaria drop any more points at home to Montenegro then that could be that and combined with 3 points for us in Cyprus the runner up spot should be within our control

    Also Italy Bulgaria on Wed night might confirm us as runners up or set up a table topper game with Italy


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    I don't understand how people can compliment our defense, we haven't kept a clean sheet in the last 7 games and have conceded 11 goals in that time. The last time we did keep a clean sheet was against Cyprus at home in a game we probaly should have conceded in. I have zero confidence in us keeping Cyprus scoreless in Nicosia and so I think we need to score twice at the very least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    HashSlinging how can you side with/defend the FAI on this?

    Its embarassing and it wouldnt happen in any other self respecting National Association.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Its currently 36degC in Cyprus, so not feeling too confident about this one at all.

    Reckon we'll nick an early goal but will be under the cosh for the rest of the game. Probably 1-1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    Vokes wrote: »
    Its currently 36degC in Cyprus, so not feeling too confident about this one at all.

    Reckon we'll nick an early goal but will be under the cosh for the rest of the game. Probably 1-1.

    Ah yeah but the game is on at 9:30, it'll be around 20 degrees then. Not that bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    HashSlinging how can you side with/defend the FAI on this?

    Its embarassing and it wouldnt happen in any other self respecting National Association.

    Seriously I think the players should be given the government jet and the managers should go on a chartered economy flight half way around the world. However in this case it was clearly some admin fu*k up. Its sound like a load of prima donna shi*t, if the rugby lads or padrig harrington was "forced" to sit in econony im sure there wouldnt be a word about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,457 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Seriously I think the players should be given the government jet and the managers should go on a chartered economy flight half way around the world. However in this case it was clearly some admin fu*k up. Its sound like a load of prima donna shi*t, if the rugby lads or padrig harrington was "forced" to sit in econony im sure there wouldnt be a word about it.

    Yeah, if the grand slam winning 6ft+ massive Rugby players were forced to go economy to an important 6 nations game or World Cup match, nothing would be said at all. Nothing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Yeah, if the grand slam winning 6ft+ massive Rugby players were forced to go economy to an important 6 nations game or World Cup match, nothing would be said at all. Nothing.

    Stringer wouldn't mind.

    I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,854 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    even if we make it to the world cup, would it not be such a shame that it is with this group of players as opposed to other times we have failed to qualify but probably with a better squad? the full backs and central midfield is just so weak! i reckon, our strikers, wingers, keeper are all of a good level, but how can you really hope to compete with that central midfield! Hopefully steven reid gets fit again soon, but even if he does, how long will he last?! i dont want to dwell on the andy reid situation, but he would be exactly the type of player we need against cyprus, great at set pieces and can unlock a defence with one killer pass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Des wrote: »
    Stringer wouldn't mind.

    I'd say.

    Brian O'Driscoll would be focking outraged like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Seriously I think the players should be given the government jet and the managers should go on a chartered economy flight half way around the world. However in this case it was clearly some admin fu*k up. Its sound like a load of prima donna shi*t, if the rugby lads or padrig harrington was "forced" to sit in econony im sure there wouldnt be a word about it.
    Same thing happened with the Welsh rugby team a few years ago and there was a sh!t storm iirc.

    The thing is, talk of this being a simple admin error is beside the point. I can't believe that i'm having to point this out but - this type of fcuk up is a regular occurrence with this crowd. Anybody that doesn't see that the FAI are a disgrace must be on drugs. This is just the latest indictment of the organisations incompetence. We should all be outraged but unfortunately it's gone on so long at this stage that complete exasperation is more common :(

    :mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Same thing happened with the Welsh rugby team a few years ago and there was a sh!t storm iirc.

    The thing is, talk of this being a simple admin error is beside the point. I can't believe that i'm having to point this out but - this type of fcuk up is a regular occurrence with this crowd. Anybody that doesn't see that the FAI are a disgrace must be on drugs. This is just the latest indictment of the organisations incompetence. We should all be outraged but unfortunately it's gone on so long at this stage that complete exasperation is more common :(

    :mad::mad:

    It's the fact that for most people the absolute abject incompetence of these arseholes only comes to light when the National Team is playing, and even at those times, there sometimes doesn't even be any actual issues.

    Week after week after week, fúck up after fúck up, the people who follow the LoI are subjected to these clowns. If I made a list of all the complete FUBARs they are responsible for I'd be here all week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭elgriff


    Draupnir wrote: »
    It's hardly like wanting a seat down the back of the bus! It's more like "I'm a professional athlete who has to play a top level football match in 2 days. I'd appreciate it if I could be as comfortable as possible whilst cooped up on an airplane for 3+ hours so that I can be as well rested and prepared for the match."


    Nearly 5 hours


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Didn't hear a single player or reports of a single player complaining about the seats.

    This bollocks is just the media who were on the same plane, the minute they saw a player sitting in economy they opened their laptops and started typing away.

    'What a load of nothing' would be my response.

    Also, IMO, some of the posters here falling over themsleves to blast the FAI for whatever come across as as much of a joke as that organisation itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    gosplan wrote: »
    Didn't hear a single player or reports of a single player complaining about the seats.

    This bollocks is just the media who were on the same plane, the minute they saw a player sitting in economy they opened their laptops and started typing away.

    'What a load of nothing' would be my response.

    Also, IMO, some of the posters here falling over themsleves to blast the FAI for whatever come across as as much of a joke as that organisation itself.

    You didn't hear a report becuse there would be a press embargo until the pre-match briefing :rolleyes:

    I'm pretty sure you'll be eating your words when the question is put to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    Just heard there that Hunt is starting instead of McGeady. More of a defensive approach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Yeh the team according to the Times (as long as St Ledger is fit):

    Given
    O'Shea --- Sledge --- Dunne --- Kilbane
    Andrews --- Whelan
    Duff
    Keane
    Hunt
    Doyle

    Or whichever way they line up, but that seems to be the way the formation has taken shape.

    Hunt deserves a spot imo. Let's hope he keeps up his good form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭kenco


    eirebhoy wrote: »
    Yeh the team according to the Times (as long as St Ledger is fit):

    Given
    O'Shea --- Sledge --- Dunne --- Kilbane
    Andrews --- Whelan
    Duff
    Keane
    Hunt
    Doyle

    Or whichever way they line up, but that seems to be the way the formation has taken shape.

    Hunt deserves a spot imo. Let's hope he keeps up his good form.

    Conservative approach with a small c imo. Dont think there is much to surprise there. Looking prob for a long strike opener, contain and then maybe snatch second.


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