An Garda Síochána being called The Police

Micilin Muc · 20-08-2009 3:57pm #1

Do members of An Garda Síochána dislike being called the Police or Policemen? Or do you ever use the word Police?

ScubaDave · 20-08-2009 4:24pm

Doesnt bother me!

ntlbell · 20-08-2009 4:42pm

compared to some of the names they called i'd say most of them don't mind at all

Turner · 20-08-2009 4:45pm

Police is grand.

Tourists love the name Garda though.

Hooch · 20-08-2009 4:57pm

I have to say I like being refered to as a Garda (although the yanks think were security guards!!)

Im not a big fan of armed members having to shout "Armed Police, Armed Gardaí" but I guess its a sign of the changing times.

coach23 · 20-08-2009 6:25pm

i've been called far worse! ERU now have GARDA on one side fo their chest and POLICE on the other so froeign nationals dont get confused, I prefer being different and being called GARDA but police is just the same.

bogs · 20-08-2009 6:35pm

To me the word Garda is unique because it represents us internationally first of being Irish,secondly as being an unarmed defence force within the state and perhaps in Europe perhaps the world.

20-08-2009 7:16pm

nice guy always wrote: »

I have to say I like being refered to as a Garda (although the yanks think were security guards!!)

Im not a big fan of armed members having to shout "Armed Police, Armed Gardaí" but I guess its a sign of the changing times.

Never had that problem with the yanks.

20-08-2009 9:50pm

pisses me off people calling other police forces gardai...

Hooch · 20-08-2009 9:50pm

1922 wrote: »

pisses me off people calling other police forces gardai...

Why??

Zambia · 20-08-2009 10:06pm

1922 wrote: »

pisses me off people calling other police forces gardai...

I can imagine they are very few people who do that.

DubMedic · 20-08-2009 10:45pm

coach23 wrote: »

i've been called far worse! ERU now have GARDA on one side fo their chest and POLICE on the other so froeign nationals dont get confused, I prefer being different and being called GARDA but police is just the same.

To be honest, Armed men & women shouting '' Armed Gardaí, search warrant '' etc, removing your door or instructing you clearly to put your firearm down are hardly your TV Licence inspectors ( a hint would be that the former don't like to knock ).
One only needs common sense to know police when they see them. Ireland being the small but diverse country it is, word about the police does get around as we know. One only has to look at the news in the evening and you will see at least one member of AGS.

Would they also like us to have '' Ambulance Service Paramedic '' in egyptian heiroglyphics on our Hi-Vis?. You know... just in case.

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AlekSmart · 20-08-2009 11:09pm

Im not a big fan of armed members having to shout "Armed Police, Armed Gardaí" but I guess its a sign of the changing times.

Is this for real..

If tis,then it yet again represents the height of the PC dungheap we now sit atop

Surely the Irish version of an Armed Policeman is a Garda Airmaithe...Why the Flúich can we never go the whole-hog with stuff like this...do the proxy thing right or don`t do it at all ?

Hooch · 20-08-2009 11:15pm

AlekSmart wrote: »

Is this for real..

If tis,then it yet again represents the height of the PC dungheap we now sit atop

Surely the Irish version of an Armed Policeman is a Garda Airmaithe...Why the Flúich can we never go the whole-hog with stuff like this...do the proxy thing right or don`t do it at all ?

Armed Gardai was alway the call.....but yes its gone to add armed gardaí now. And as a poster said, the ERU have Police written on their vests aswell as Garda.

Esel · 21-08-2009 1:11am

I prefer the old-fashioned 'The Polis'.

civildefence · 21-08-2009 2:07am

coach23 wrote: »

i've been called far worse! ERU now have GARDA on one side fo their chest and POLICE on the other so froeign nationals dont get confused, I prefer being different and being called GARDA but police is just the same.

Don't be surprised if they consider stitching it on in braille, and putting ADRAG ECILOP on the front in case someone looking in their rear view mirror gets confused.

Why do the government insist on accommodating the needs of idiots? If someone doesn't know a lawman when they see one, they should just end it all now.

Shield · 21-08-2009 3:48am

Ow. Surplus tin of worms I take it?

civildefence wrote: »

Don't be surprised if they consider stitching it on in braille, and putting ADRAG ECILOP on the front in case someone looking in their rear view mirror gets confused.

Why do the government insist on accommodating the needs of idiots? If someone doesn't know a lawman when they see one, they should just end it all now.

AlekSmart · 21-08-2009 9:11am

Don't be surprised if they consider stitching it on in braille, and putting ADRAG ECILOP on the front in case someone looking in their rear view mirror gets confused.

The real danger here civildefence,is that there is already an expert review group up and running on this.....:(

As you quite rightly point out this burning need to underline,define and outline what should be "the bleedin obvious" has wrapped UK and Irish society in a very tight corset of imbicility.

This will largely ensure that those with a bit of cop-on (!) will flee the coop as fast as their little feet will (or are allowed to) carry them.

The modern Irish state has cocooned itself in a vast thick undergrowth of inane "EU" regulations to an extent that "Real" Europeans find quite amusing given our reluctance to embrace the other European stuff....such as properly funded and structured Public Transport and Health systems.....

Euro_Kraut · 21-08-2009 9:15am

I think the only the word 'Gardai' should be used. Otherwise it justs causes confuision with Sting and his group.

ScubaDave · 21-08-2009 2:56pm

In fairness folks, all you have to do is look across the water and all Uniforms and Vehicles are marked (in wales) with "POLICE HEDDLU"!

pa990 · 21-08-2009 3:14pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0fdjACLWRE

civildefence · 21-08-2009 3:17pm

psni wrote: »

Ow. Surplus tin of worms I take it?

I simply think unneccesary measures are being taken to clarify something that is already clear. I guarantee you the word 'police' will appear on Garda vehicles in the not too distant future. Where I know it will do no harm, it will do no real good either.

helimachoptor · 21-08-2009 3:20pm

Better than those idiot reporters who call you guys Goooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

V Bull · 21-08-2009 3:55pm

nice guy always wrote: »

"although the yanks think were security guards!!"

I've seen a security companys truck in Chicago with the words "Garda" written on the sides..............could be the reason.....;)

Hooch · 21-08-2009 4:03pm

V Bull wrote: »

I've seen a security companys truck in Chicago with the words "Garda" written on the sides..............could be the reason.....;)

civildefence · 21-08-2009 4:16pm

V Bull wrote: »

nice guy always wrote: »

"although the yanks think were security guards!!"

I've seen a security companys truck in Chicago with the words "Garda" written on the sides..............could be the reason.....;)

You're spot on, and again in New York.

civdef · 21-08-2009 4:35pm

One possibility?

21-08-2009 6:17pm

Useless piece of info:

My riot helmet said "Police"

When we were given them it was totally random who got one which said "Garda" or "Police"

:pac:

djtechnics1210 · 21-08-2009 6:22pm

My first public order kit bag i was issued with had police in big writing written on it.

Very strange...... clearly got all the kit from across the water at a reduced rate.

hammy140 · 21-08-2009 6:27pm

Ha ha, in Cork the Gardai are affectionately known as "Da Shades".

DubMedic · 21-08-2009 6:47pm

hammy140 wrote: »

Ha ha, in Cork the Gardai are affectionately known as "Da Shades".

Yeah, and in some areas Gardaí are called something similar to your nicknames' animal of origin.

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civildefence · 21-08-2009 7:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Useless piece of info:

My riot helmet said "Police"

When we were given them it was totally random who got one which said "Garda" or "Police"

:pac:

ebay is great isn't it

bogs · 21-08-2009 8:22pm

Im not saying what gear you were given whether marked Garda or Police is your doing.All im saying is that Garda represents us in the world as the 26 county Garda(police) force in Ireland.

Esel · 21-08-2009 10:43pm

hammy140 wrote: »

Ha ha, in Cork the Gardai are affectionately known as "Da Shades".

That comes from Shelta, the 'secret' Traveller language, where the original expression is 'Shaylog and Daylog'. Same Shelta origin for beor (girl) and feen (guy).

pa990 · 22-08-2009 12:04am

esel wrote: »

That comes from Shelta, the 'secret' Traveller language, where the original expression is 'Shaylog and Daylog'. Same Shelta origin for beor (girl) and feen (guy).

Would ya, feik a buffer ?

Esel · 22-08-2009 12:44am

pa990 wrote: »

Would ya, feik a buffer ?

Cant. You Gammon?

Shield · 22-08-2009 2:08am

Lads back on topic please?

hammy140 · 23-08-2009 7:51pm

esel wrote: »

That comes from Shelta, the 'secret' Traveller language, where the original expression is 'Shaylog and Daylog'. Same Shelta origin for beor (girl) and feen (guy).

Ah, thanks lads, ha ha ha, always wondered about that.

mcguiver · 24-08-2009 3:46pm

I find the word Garda is becoming more and more confusing in the new multicultural ireland.
When in plain clothes I always shout Garda and Police.
We see more and more court cases where the legal eagles are claiming their client didnt know we were police.

Try dealing with overseas banks/embassies etc, you have to explain that you are the police over the phone, Garda means nothing to them.

Now I understand people are proud of An Garda Siochan, the unarmed police force, but it gets confusing when so many of us ARE ARMED!!

In uniform I've had tourists ask me where they would find a police officer!!
Ive also had ones who genuinely didnt believe we are "police".

I think GARDA, with Police written in small letters below it would be a good start.

Plus, I can only imagine the lack of buying power we have when we go to buy gear etc. and then have to have it labelled. When I'm sure most suppliers would have stock of POLICE marked gear.

Run_to_da_hills · 24-08-2009 10:32pm

Don't ever call them constables.:D

ScubaDave · 24-08-2009 10:40pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Don't ever call them constables.:D

There is alot of names you could add to that list!

RobD_ · 24-08-2009 10:40pm

roxanne wont be too happy with that :rolleyes:

LeoB · 09-01-2010 5:32pm

mcguiver wrote: »

We see more and more court cases where the legal eagles are claiming their client didnt know we were police.

Try dealing with overseas banks/embassies etc, you have to explain that you are the police over the phone, Garda means nothing to them.

Now I understand people are proud of An Garda Siochan,

This is the P.C. stuff gone mad and typical of the "wigs" to come out with that crap. There is no confusion when a lot of these are looking for Social welfare office or free accomadation. If someone want to come hear and make a life for themselves they should acquaint themselves with the basics of Irish life.

Personally I would always adress a member of as Garda. They are members of An Garda Siochana and this should not change to suit anyone. As someone stated earlier we are top of the P.C dungheap.

I am a very proud Irishman and very proud of our Gardái

DenMan · 09-01-2010 5:33pm

I've always called them the police. I don't think they mind either way.

Corcioch · 09-01-2010 7:13pm

esel wrote: »

That comes from Shelta, the 'secret' Traveller language, where the original expression is 'Shaylog and Daylog'. Same Shelta origin for beor (girl) and feen (guy).

Is Shelta not an old language ??????. . . .'The Cant' being the language Travellers in Ireland use today.

I've often heard it spoken by Travellers who want to communicate in out presence without us knowing what they are saying.

There is a 'buffer' ( settled person ) in west Cork who teaches 'The Cant', hes in his mid nineties I think . . . . still drives his car and all every day. . . remarkable fella.

Delancey · 09-01-2010 11:14pm

There used to be a Traffic Fines office on O'Connell St. ( maybe it's still there ? ) on the window was the word GARDA and under that Police , Polis , Polizei , Policia , Politie , Polazza ,..... you get the idea , basically the world over they are called the same . That is why I think the name Garda is great - it is distinctly Irish and quite different from the herd - long may it last.

vasch_ro · 10-01-2010 12:15am

DubMedic wrote: »

Yeah, and in some areas Gardaí are called something similar to your nicknames' animal of origin.

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i think the shades is pretty cool, is it a bad nick name ?

ivabiggon · 10-01-2010 1:52am

if a member was on holidays in tenerife and happen to sit down and talk to a person from...say.. iceland and they asked what you did for a living, what have you said? eh! police officer i would say.
in wales they have both and i thing the irish should come up to international standards.

Peppapig · 10-01-2010 1:56am

Thats like the bus stop writing on the road

STÓP
BUS
STOP

Mixing up the irish and english is a shambles

Trojan911 · 10-01-2010 2:59am

When I was a young fella the Gardai were known as "Brassy Buttons" or "Shades" ...

And that was an affectionate term...

JuliusCaesar · 10-01-2010 11:51am

mcguiver wrote: »

In uniform I've had tourists ask me where they would find a police officer!!
Ive also had ones who genuinely didnt believe we are "police".

I think GARDA, with Police written in small letters below it would be a good start.

Plus, I can only imagine the lack of buying power we have when we go to buy gear etc. and then have to have it labelled. When I'm sure most suppliers would have stock of POLICE marked gear.

I wonder do the Carabinieri in Italy have the same problem? (especially seeing they have 5 different police forces there - and no, the Polizia is not the same as the Carabinieri!)

An Garda Síochána being called The Police

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