Gran Turismo 5 information overload

ongarite

The Gamescom announcement was pulled at last minute but the offical press release was released by Polyphony & SCEI.

Rough japanese translation:

August 18, GamesCom, held in Cologne, Germany: Gran Turismo 5 has been announced! Here is the latest information on the game design:

■ models included
1,000 vehicles
170 Premium new models (full interior modeling, the interior corresponds to vehicle damage)
830 kinds of standard model (some are from Gran Turismo 4 that have been carried over to GT5) [Read: Cars we have seen in GT4 before ]

■ Courses
60 courses confirmed with 20 or more to be revealed

■ physical simulation of vehicles
Physics system simulation is brand new
Represented is full fall in vehicles [possibly rollover]
Damage representation (reproduced in full by real-time collision deformation)
faithfully reproducing the behavior of electric cars, i.e. Prius, Insight, hybrid cars and the latest Tesla model

■ Arcade Mode
Single Race
2 player battle

■ GT Mode
World Map
My Garage
Car Dealer
Tuning Shop (parts, tires)
Car Washes/Oil Change
Race Championship (Series system, point system)
License Test

■ Online
Open Lobby
Text / Voice Chat
Private rooms
Online Photo Album
Online Replay Album
YouTube replay output

■ Photo Mode
Photo Drive (Circuit)
Photo stage (Stage Photo mode only)

■ Gran Turismo TV
Video output to a PSP or PSP Go®
Progressive Download
Improved user interface
Continuous Play for videos

■ Museums
The Gran Turismo 5 Prologue version, + more information at TGS

■ Sound
Custom soundtracks (Use songs from your PS3 hard-drive)
Dolby Digital 5.1 and 7.1

■ User Interface
The Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, and the same design concept. The icons change color
Able to track the movement of Cockpit Camera interface (confirmed in full 3-D. The camera can be fully manipulated and you can opt to have your head tracked by the PSEye)

GEasy

Wohoo!
Looking good! Got the driving force GT wheel there a couple of weeks back - seventy quid delivered!
Cant wait for this game

Mossy Monk

I wont get excited until I know the release date. To think this was meant to be a launch title.

rizzla

Head tracking sounds brilliant. Is there even an actual release date yet though.

Kinetic^

60 courses confirmed with 20 or more to be revealed

Have they released the names? I'd be interested to see if it's 60 tracks rather then about 15-20 with variants of them.

McGrath5

Looks great, this game is one of the main reasons why I bought a PS3. A release date would be nice as well.

Kev_ps3

drool

*Tripper*

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/05/07/gt5-track-list-leaked/

Dont be at yourself

Headtracking

unkymo

I can't wait. Christmas can't come soon enough!

projectmayhem

Big rundown of stuff including a video of crash damage in action!

amacachi

Can't say I'm overly impressed with the tracklist, was hoping they'd have a lot more NASCAR tracks than they have.

Luap

Nice to see the Top Gear test track and a good couple of other nice tracks.

Could anyone recommend a good steering-wheel that does cost a fortune for the game?

irishman123

http://www.psu.com/GT5-will-very-probably-get-simultaneous-global-release--a008036-p0.php

Mossy Monk

I was kind of expecting a simultaneous worldwide release. If we have to wait a while after Japan get it I will be really pissed off.

irishman123

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I was kind of expecting a simultaneous worldwide release. If we have to wait a while after Japan get it I will be really pissed off.

Hopefully we see it before Xmas...

I like these words from the article:

"60fps in full 1080p resolution"

amacachi

irishman123 wrote: »

Hopefully we see it before Xmas...

I like these words from the article:

"60fps in full 1080p resolution"

They still haven't managed that in the Prologue.

paulhealy1991

LakesKeane wrote: »

Wohoo!
Looking good! Got the driving force GT wheel there a couple of weeks back - seventy quid delivered!
Cant wait for this game

from what website?? anyone know the cheapest place to get that wheel from. 70 euro sounds pretty good

brian plank

paulhealy1991 wrote: »

from what website?? anyone know the cheapest place to get that wheel from. 70 euro sounds pretty good

play.com were doing the logitech g25 for £100 last week. just checked and its €350 now again.

*Tripper*

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=477241

Cheapest when I know.

theUbiq

amacachi wrote: »

Can't say I'm overly impressed with the tracklist, was hoping they'd have a lot more NASCAR tracks than they have.

So, you like driving in circles?

Mossy Monk

It's a little bit more than driving in circles.

brian plank

Mossy Monk wrote: »

It's a little bit more than driving in circles.

yeah, some of them are sort of oval shaped.

irishman123

amacachi wrote: »

They still haven't managed that in the Prologue.

I also hope it has no screen tearing like Prologue!

amacachi

theUbiq wrote: »

So, you like driving in circles?

Sure it's simple, look at what happens to former F1 champs who try it.:rolleyes:
The fact that there's to be no more NASCAR games to be released in the near future was what made me hope there'd be an almost full NASCAR game within the game. It's all a bit gimmicky to have all the NASCAR cars available when there are only a couple of the tracks they use in it, one is an oval and one a road course.
Mind you if the online is as useless as the Prologue then I wouldn't like trying to have everyone trying to race side-by-side.

paulhealy1991

that g25 is unreal. whats the story with the clutch??? does the clutch pedal serve any use in gt5?! like is there actualy a setting in the game where it requires you to clutch before changing games :eek:

amacachi

paulhealy1991 wrote: »

that gt 25 is unreal. whats the story with the clutch??? does the clutch pedal serve any use in gt5?! like is there actualy a setting in the game where it requires you to clutch before changing games :eek:

I'd imagine you could use it as an option.

brian plank

paulhealy1991 wrote: »

that g25 is unreal. whats the story with the clutch??? does the clutch pedal serve any use in gt5?! like is there actualy a setting in the game where it requires you to clutch before changing games :eek:

it does work. heres an example of what you could do if your really sad.

amacachi

Heh, just after 30 seconds the screen and he don't match up at all.

paulhealy1991

brian plank wrote: »

it does work. heres an example of what you could do if your really sad.

thats for making me see just how sad a person would be with a set up like that. i think the only option is to use a controller and spend the money on drink :mad:

Paparazzo

YouTube replay output

expect youtube to be flooded with replays that no one will ever watch!

3rdDegree

It's the bit where he disengaged the handbrake before he started that amused me most!

Austriker

That video with the so called 'damage' is flippin desperate, the doors flap like dumbos ears and after all those barrier impacts, all that has happened is that the bumper has unclipped, not even a dent or scratch in sight or a broken headlight! Not looking promising.....

amacachi

Austriker wrote: »

That video with the so called 'damage' is flippin desperate, the doors flap like dumbos ears and after all those barrier impacts, all that has happened is that the bumper has unclipped, not even a dent or scratch in sight or a broken headlight! Not looking promising.....

Any chance of a link? TBH I'd forgo damage if they got some decent force feedback into it.

Austriker

projectmayhem wrote: »

Big rundown of stuff including a video of crash damage in action!

This is the video i watched anyway, disappointing to say the least

amacachi

Ah yeah, wouldn't load last time I tried. Looks hilariously poor.

Paparazzo

Damage is the one thing that Gran Tourismo badly needs. How did the advertise it as "The real driving simulator", i remember the first 2 you couldn't spin out, you couldn't flip the car and no damage!

Ed_

No damage was never a big deal as far as I was concerned.

Mossy Monk

I am sure it will be possible to turn off damage if it looks crap.

brian plank

Paparazzo wrote: »

Damage is the one thing that Gran Tourismo badly needs. How did the advertise it as "The real driving simulator", i remember the first 2 you couldn't spin out, you couldn't flip the car and no damage!

i think you should try grid or burnout maybe. :rolleyes:. i cant really see the point in damage anyway. its cool the first time to see bits fly off but after that its pointless.

projectmayhem

Paparazzo wrote: »

Damage is the one thing that Gran Tourismo badly needs. How did the advertise it as "The real driving simulator", i remember the first 2 you couldn't spin out, you couldn't flip the car and no damage!

Well one thing I would say is that you can't damage any aircraft in Flight Sim, which is far more realistic for pilots then GT is for drivers.

Next thing I would say is that if you're driving your car to flip it over and tear it to shreds then maybe you're playing the wrong game.

My final point is Forza. It's a good balance between "sim" and arcade gameplay with some nice graphics, but when you do smash your car up, it takes away from the game (IMO). Doesn't look realistic at all, and very much looks like "wideo game graffix" damage with just a bit of warping and crunchy sound effects.... yet this is the best that can realistically be done.

I would much rather Polyphony focus on pushing the boundaries of driving physics rather then dumping damage in for the sake of it. If the door hangs off and you've got a bumper hanging on by one clip by the end of a race then you very simply aren't playing the "simulator" part of the game.

superweld

damage is needed more so for punishing messers as opposed to adding to the the game for those who take it seriously.

e.g you can drive full speed into a corner, aim at another car to slow you down while bashing them out of the way and then speeding off in front.

with damage, this wouldn't be possible.

Paparazzo

brian plank wrote: »

i think you should try grid or burnout maybe. :rolleyes:. i cant really see the point in damage anyway. its cool the first time to see bits fly off but after that its pointless.

I have grid, it's terrible! Race driver on the PS2 is far better. But how anyone thinks a "driving simulator" that you can do 200mph into a barrier and not have any damage is realistic is mental. It's nothing to do with looking "cool", it's a realistic way of punishing bad driving.

superweld wrote: »

damage is needed more so for punishing messers as opposed to adding to the the game for those who take it seriously.

e.g you can drive full speed into a corner, aim at another car to slow you down while bashing them out of the way and then speeding off in front.

with damage, this wouldn't be possible.

+1, bang on!

projectmayhem

superweld wrote: »

damage is needed more so for punishing messers as opposed to adding to the the game for those who take it seriously.

e.g you can drive full speed into a corner, aim at another car to slow you down while bashing them out of the way and then speeding off in front.

with damage, this wouldn't be possible.

Well if I take a corner, and you bash into the side of me, damage or no damage, I will suffer. As long as the system doesn't bounce you off me into a straight line leaving me in the grass, damage doesn't matter.

But online is a whole other argument. It's a disaster in prologue. Why is it when people take sideswipes on my car do I get a penalty? Argh!

Paparazzo

projectmayhem wrote: »

Well one thing I would say is that you can't damage any aircraft in Flight Sim, which is far more realistic for pilots then GT is for drivers.

Next thing I would say is that if you're driving your car to flip it over and tear it to shreds then maybe you're playing the wrong game.

My final point is Forza. It's a good balance between "sim" and arcade gameplay with some nice graphics, but when you do smash your car up, it takes away from the game (IMO). Doesn't look realistic at all, and very much looks like "wideo game graffix" damage with just a bit of warping and crunchy sound effects.... yet this is the best that can realistically be done.

I would much rather Polyphony focus on pushing the boundaries of driving physics rather then dumping damage in for the sake of it. If the door hangs off and you've got a bumper hanging on by one clip by the end of a race then you very simply aren't playing the "simulator" part of the game.

So, in a flight sim, can you plough into the ground at top speed and it hardly effect you?
I don't drive to flip it over, but either do any professional race drivers i real life, bur crashes still happen.
As for your last point, don't crash and your door won't hang off! Don't go full speed into a hairpin using the armco barrier to guide you around!

superweld

projectmayhem wrote: »

Well if I take a corner, and you bash into the side of me, damage or no damage, I will suffer. As long as the system doesn't bounce you off me into a straight line leaving me in the grass, damage doesn't matter.

But online is a whole other argument. It's a disaster in prologue. Why is it when people take sideswipes on my car do I get a penalty? Argh!

yes you will suffer either way but if i angle it correctly then i'll bash off you and take the corner perfectly! with damage on then we'd both suffer either way. it's a skill in itself :P

brian plank

Paparazzo wrote: »

So, in a flight sim, can you plough into the ground at top speed and it hardly effect you?
I don't drive to flip it over, but either do any professional race drivers i real life, bur crashes still happen.
As for your last point, don't crash and your door won't hang off! Don't go full speed into a hairpin using the armco barrier to guide you around!

it will end the game in the same way crashing without damage will result in you losing the race in GT. 90% of lobbies in forza are setup with collisions and damage off (cosmetic only). the idea of any driving game is to drive surprisingly enough not see how much you can smash up your car.

Paparazzo

brian plank wrote: »

it will end the game in the same way crashing without damage will result in you losing the race in GT. 90% of lobbies in forza are setup with collisions and damage off (cosmetic only). the idea of any driving game is to drive surprisingly enough not see how much you can smash up your car.

Maybe you should watch a real motor race. Professional drivers, the best in the world crash all the time. Maybe you should tell tell them do drive instead of crash, it would save F1 teams, rally teams etc millions!

amacachi

projectmayhem wrote: »

Well if I take a corner, and you bash into the side of me, damage or no damage, I will suffer. As long as the system doesn't bounce you off me into a straight line leaving me in the grass, damage doesn't matter.

But online is a whole other argument. It's a disaster in prologue. Why is it when people take sideswipes on my car do I get a penalty? Argh!

Prologue is a complete disaster. They've had literally years to fix the problem of people running the barriers to gain an advantage, but rather than fix it they give penalties, even if it's just a slight rub by accident.

I find the Prologue crap to play compared to Forza, the force feedback is awful.

brian plank

Paparazzo wrote: »

Maybe you should watch a real motor race. Professional drivers, the best in the world crash all the time. Maybe you should tell tell them do drive instead of crash, it would save F1 teams, rally teams etc millions!

i dont think they crash on purpose. :rolleyes:. damage is only there to keep the kids happy the rest of us who can actually play the game don't care. i didnt want to say that but there you go, its the truth.

Austriker

brian plank wrote: »

it will end the game in the same way crashing without damage will result in you losing the race in GT. 90% of lobbies in forza are setup with collisions and damage off (cosmetic only). the idea of any driving game is to drive surprisingly enough not see how much you can smash up your car.

Are you serious, the advantages of having damage is that crashing into people, online or otherwise, is pointless because, although you may put them off the road, your will also damage your own car so much that you need to pit or retire from the race which is WHAT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE!

Don't get me wrong though the attention to detail in the gran turismo series is second to none but i think for it to be rightfully tagged 'The Real Driving Simulator', then it should incorporate REAL damage!!

I suppose it may not be possible or economic to model all of the cars for damage purposes as it would take away from the other fantastic attributes of the game too much and slow gameplay down.