Lady Gaga

Nevyn

I have to say I found this article very intresting and was wondering what the regs of the forum think of it.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

The symbolism surrounding Lady Gaga is so blatant that one might wonder if it’s all a sick joke. Illuminati symbolism is becoming so clear that analyses like this one becomes a simple exercise of pointing out the obvious. Her whole persona (whether its an act or not) is a tribute to mind control, where being vacuous, incoherent and absent minded becomes a fashionable thing.

Having an intrest in the occult I have to say it is far to easy to constantly see symbols everywhere but it certainly made me pause and think.

bleg

And here you are highlighting all her Illuminati symbolism and spreading the word. Just another proof that this conspiracy theory is just another conspiracy to keep our minds occupied so we don't see the real conspiracy.

starbelgrade

Who is Lady Gaga?

Undergod

Thaedydal wrote: »

I have to say I found this article very intresting and was wondering what the regs of the forum think of it.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676



Having an intrest in the occult I have to say it is far to easy to constantly see symbols everywhere but it certainly made me pause and think.

There is quite a bit of interesting stuff in that article, but more in the way that the industry presents these vapid, empty ideals and images as a positive thing, than evidence of a shadowy cabal using pop music as a form of mind control. It could equally be some very clever agent or label executive putting these subtle clues in there for his own entertainment. I also wonder why a powerful conspiracy would put clues and their secret symbols in something so widely broadcast as a music video.


When you refer to symbols, what do you mean? There is a lot of stuff linking corporate logos to the Illuminati and the Masons because of common shapes- these shapes being circles, triangles, squares, and right angles. The link you provided gave the example of the s used by the Nazi SS- I don't think you can really say anything with a lightning bolt in the logo is secretly run by fascists. The idea of having the eye on your hand is not unocmmon, so I don't think it credible to associate that with an occult meaning. On the other hand, the resembelance to the Baphomet pose, though it was slight, is interesting because it seems like an awkward pose, why would someone think that a good idea to stand?

Mahatma coat

starbelgrade wrote: »

Who is Lady Gaga?

I asked myself the same question, then I made the mistake of typing her name into Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAoPJxTvZOQ

she's no Janis Joplyn I'll tell ya that.

but yeah the presented image of the creature does seem to support the hypothesis of the OP Website.

there are also rumors abounding on Ms Gaga's Genetic makeup

I think I heard that song playin in one o them trendy shop type places a while ago, it made more sense when I thought she was saying 'Poke Her Face':D:D:D:D


this is mainly why I listen to Classic Rock stations on the AM radio

nyarlothothep

Marilyn Manson must be one of them aswell, he collaborated with the vacuous one. This dominance of this empty culture is a sign that the fruition of their plans is very near, just another 2 1/2 years.

Undergod

Could just be a sign that contemporary pop culture is vacuous.

Hell, pop culture has always had vacuous elements, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

nyarlothothep

Undergod wrote: »

Could just be a sign that contemporary pop culture is vacuous.

Hell, pop culture has always had vacuous elements, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

she could just be tapping into the cultural subconsciousness, these symbols have been around for aeons and likely find their expression because they look "cool" or aesthetically pleasing. The Manson connection is curious as he's obsessed with the occult, devil worshipping, Nietzsche etc. When you consider this in relation to the baphomet pose it makes you wonder whether if there is something going on behind that pop veneer.

Undergod

nyarlothothep wrote: »

she could just be tapping into the cultural subconsciousness

Yeah. Just tapping into cultural subconsciousness. Not necessarily anything to do with anyone's plans. If they do look cool and aesthetically pleasing, people will use these symbols whether or not they are connected to anyone's plans.

nyarlothothep wrote: »

The Manson connection is curious as he's obsessed with the occult, devil worshipping, Nietzsche etc.

I don't know to what extent he really is interested in the occult. I think at times he is quite a savvy, clever performer, doesn't take himself too seriously and he's not afraid to have a subtle swipe at his fans. More than anything, I think he's interested in making money.

Purple Gorilla

I like Lady Gaga..and no, not because I'm brainwashed into it. She's just weird...all it is is PR. She's found a niche, the exciting, spontaneous, out there singer and she's exploiting it. While I did find some of the stuff interesting, there are some flaws in it which make me question the rest of the article. Like her logo, AFAIK it was originally for her fashion line, hence the mannequin. And the thunder bolt is a tribute to David Bowie, who she says was her inspiration.

Sealclubber

I'm more concerned that she could really be a man. Paddy Power shortened the odds to 5-1. Here's me thinking she's hot.

HybridPaul

......she is a he. He has a penis. And he showed if on stage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbmxw6befyQ

Sealclubber

I'm still not convinced. Perhaps I'm in denial.

HybridPaul

Sealclubber wrote: »

I'm still not convinced. Perhaps I'm in denial.

There is literally NOTHING else that could be. Be afraid. Illuminati is the least of your worries. Lady guyguys penis is goin to get you.

Sealclubber

Holy ****, I can't wait for Dan Brown's next novel.

Undergod

Yeah, I'm not convinced by that video. And the supposed blog entry is total nonsense.

ceegee

did anyone else read the entry about umbrella by rihanna also on that site? Turns out its a dialogue with her and the devil during which she becomes possessed. He also rapes her in the video. Not entirely sure how i managed to not notice that.
Oh and jay z predicted the recession.
Or possibly the author is just a complete fruitloop.

Undergod

ceegee wrote: »

Oh and jay z predicted the recession.

A Jay-z song was on while I read this. And about five seconds after I stopped reading your post, he said something about recession.

COINCIDENCE?


Yes.

condra

Eh, marketing?

CHD

Shes a man tbh.

Mahatma coat

did anyone else read the entry about umbrella by rihanna also on that site? Turns out its a dialogue with her and the devil during which she becomes possessed. He also rapes her in the video. Not entirely sure how i managed to not notice that.
Oh and jay z predicted the recession.
Or possibly the author is just a complete fruitloop.

oh we've already had a thread on Rhianna being a puppet of the NWO,

hang on a minute I'll find it for ye

Here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055381622&highlight=rhianna&page=3
the discussion starts about half way down the thread, the rest of the thread is fairly good readin as well.

Brown Bomber

Rihanna's new song Russian Roulette came on MTV and I thought the lyrics and imagery in the video were ****ed up so I looked into it and I found this from a music industry insider.

Just days after its release, Rihanna's new single "Russian Roulette" has caused numerous online discussions involving the song's dark lyrics and obvious play on suicide.

Written by Ne-Yo, the track has many wondering the direction of Rihanna's upcoming album Rated R, including singer/songwriter Tiffany Evans, who feels "Russian Roulette" could possibly lead many Rihanna fans to commit suicide.

Evans (best known for her single "Promise Ring" ft. Ciara and her stint on Star Search) took to her Twitter page on Wednesday morning to discuss the topic. She tweeted:

"Russian Roulette= Suicidal Rate gon sky rocket!
You gotta watch what u say. Because there are a lot of weak people in the world. They are susceptible to anything so anything you say or do some people actually do listen. So make sure its nothing bad. Its okay to be deep,but not murder deep.

Man! I really wish I could tell you guys what the industry really is and what stars are apart of destroying this world. The stars who worship satan,and those who have killed to get the respect they have now. You’d be verrrry surprise. Some of your favorite people pretend to worship God but they only do that to save face. Or seem innocent.

Satan was head of music in heaven. He uses influential people…to help influence the world. Think about that. Once u make a certain amount of money. Just know that that’s when they ask u to join. To get in you have accept the beast, worship. Once you join they assist u with ur career.make u huge.only if u agree and obey to destroy Gods word.and his children.
Ppl listen and pay attention. Its a war going on right now between Good and Evil. Evil will rule this world for a min. The people that have this power are the people that RULE the whole world. I’m done I won’t say anymore before I get in trouble."

According to TheProphet Blog.net, Evan’s tweets are centered around the “rumored corruption and brainwashing that goes on behind the scenes of the entertainment industry, often referred to as a group called the Illuminati“.
"If you’ve never heard of the Illuminati before, it’s basically a group or organization of powerful people in the industry that brainwash audiences with hidden messages in songs, music video’s, political campaigns etc. Stars such as Kanye West, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, and Matthew Knowles have all been accused of being involved, as have various politicians and actors."

http://www.examiner.com/x-964-LA-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m10d23-SingerSongwriter-Tiffany-Evans-blasts-Rihannas-Russian-Roulette

Check out her official homepage
http://www.rihannanow.com/index.htm

Notice the mannequins (submission) in barbed wire (oppression), also called the devils rope.

humanji

"Russian Roulette= Suicidal Rate gon sky rocket!
You gotta watch what u say. Because there are a lot of weak people in the world. They are susceptible to anything so anything you say or do some people actually do listen. So make sure its nothing bad. Its okay to be deep,but not murder deep.

Man! I really wish I could tell you guys what the industry really is and what stars are apart of destroying this world. The stars who worship satan,and those who have killed to get the respect they have now. You’d be verrrry surprise. Some of your favorite people pretend to worship God but they only do that to save face. Or seem innocent.

Satan was head of music in heaven. He uses influential people…to help influence the world. Think about that. Once u make a certain amount of money. Just know that that’s when they ask u to join. To get in you have accept the beast, worship. Once you join they assist u with ur career.make u huge.only if u agree and obey to destroy Gods word.and his children.
Ppl listen and pay attention. Its a war going on right now between Good and Evil. Evil will rule this world for a min. The people that have this power are the people that RULE the whole world. I’m done I won’t say anymore before I get in trouble."

How did she get all that on twitter?

Truthrevolution

The latest so called artists like Lady Gaga, Rihanna and beyonce no doubt inject a lot of Satanism into their music.Its blatantly obvious and its what your kids are listening to.And what we do know is how much the music industry is now manipulated by the corporate global elite.

bonkey

Truthrevolution wrote: »

The latest so called artists like Lady Gaga, Rihanna and beyonce no doubt inject a lot of Satanism into their music.Its blatantly obvious and its what your kids are listening to.And what we do know is how much the music industry is now manipulated by the corporate global elite.

Funnily, my parents were convinced that my generation's music was somehow deviant.

Their parents, by-and-large, were convinced that their generation's music was somehow deviant.

Plus ca change....

PirateShampoo

Wasnt Elvis the devil when he went global also?

Truthrevolution

bonkey wrote: »

Funnily, my parents were convinced that my generation's music was somehow deviant.

Their parents, by-and-large, were convinced that their generation's music was somehow deviant.

Plus ca change....

Very true, maybe the music industry has been incrimentally taking steps in this direction for the last few decades.I just cant believe how blatantly their promoting satanism nowadays, even the latest big brother theme is all about hell and evil tasks

PirateShampoo

Because its what the kids are into these days, they are just cashing in on the latest fad.

Torakx

There is no doubt that satanism and secret societies have hi-jacked the media.
I see alot of symbolism and mind control in alot of artists in the music industry and film makers.
Lady Gaga is pretty corrupt looking to me.
Constant bombardmant of duality themes, blood sacrifice themes ,satanic references etc
What i used to wonder was are the media using these symbols to be popular or are they doing it for another reason?

I have seen so many examples of mind control on the TV(invented for mind control experiments at first) i would have to be crazy literally to think there is no motive.

theg81der

I kinda thought something like this too. Seemed suspicious how lady gaga just sprang from nowhere one day.

phantom_lord

theg81der wrote: »

I kinda thought something like this too. Seemed suspicious how lady gaga just sprang from nowhere one day.

she really really didn't.

Brown Bomber

Freemason Initiiation



Pink at the MTV awards.

Undergod

Of course, since those images are pretty easily available, she could have seen it, thought it looked cool and decided to do a stage routine that looks like a Masonic ritual, and not be connected to the Freemasons at all. In fact, seeing as freemasons are supposed to be quiet and secretive about their rituals and procedures, then it's not very likely that she would be re-enacting a masonic ritual if she was connected to them.

Emme

Undergod wrote: »

Of course, since those images are pretty easily available, she could have seen it, thought it looked cool and decided to do a stage routine that looks like a Masonic ritual, and not be connected to the Freemasons at all. In fact, seeing as freemasons are supposed to be quiet and secretive about their rituals and procedures, then it's not very likely that she would be re-enacting a masonic ritual if she was connected to them.

Pink is female so she doesn't qualify to be a Freemason even if she does have a masonic looking left legging.

Mahatma coat

A lot of it is
PostModernistIronicHumorwotsit

and just simple and obvious crowd tricks etc, Propaganda is an artform initself

Undergod

Emme wrote: »

Pink is female so she doesn't qualify to be a Freemason even if she does have a masonic looking left legging.

Yeah, which is why I said "connected to them" rather than "a member".

Undergod

Also, I think people ought to be aware of the different types of Satanism when on this topic. Most Satanism is in the LaVeyan tradition, which does not worship Satan and in fact explicitly denies his existence. Santa worship is less common.

Edit: Satan worship is less common still...

nyarlothothep

Undergod wrote: »

Also, I think people ought to be aware of the different types of Satanism when on this topic. Most Satanism is in the LaVeyan tradition, which does not worship Satan and in fact explicitly denies his existence. Santa worship is less common.

Edit: Satan worship is less common still...

I believe there is a mountain tribe in the ME which worships him as a deity. Can't remember where or what their name was.

Undergod

nyarlothothep wrote: »

I believe there is a mountain tribe in the ME which worships him as a deity. Can't remember where or what their name was.

The Yazidi in Iraq worship a deity which is identified with Lucifer. That's a foreign assocation, they don't particularly make the connection themselves. They've been pretty badly misrepresented over the years, they're not like evil blood drinkers or anything. They believe that the world was created by God, but that he doesn't take any interest in it. Seven angels now look after it, chief among them the Peacock Angel. The peacock angel shares an arabic name with one of the names given for Satan in the Koran. I think there's some story about him falling out of favour and redeeming, but I'm not sure about that.

And again, Lucifer is not always equal to Satan. Lucifer is often described as a bringer of enlightenment (sounds good to me). In a weird twist, I dunno if it's bad tranlsation or just a hilarious coincidence, on of the names used to refer to Lucifer, The Mornign Star, is also used to refer to Jesus during some of the easter readings.

Torakx

well its one thing to think pink did this because she saw it somewhere and it looked cool,but when looking at all the other acts there was freemasonry symbolism everywhere along with lady gagas transformation after a symbolic death and sacrifice on stage........The mtv awards im refering to here.
These ceremonies and hidden symbols in plain sight are very goods ways to promote those symbols as being positive.
I know worshipping satan along with these celebrities is probably harmless on a religious sense.
But along with these rituals and ceremonies comes themes of abuse and mind control.Otherwise i would say its fine.My issue is really with the abuse that people suffer and that the subconcious mind is changed to host these new principles wether you know it or not.

I might make a thread sometime later about the movie kick-ass recently changed from Hit-girl. its a perfect example of movies changing the subconcious perception of adults and kids using an 11 yo child (at the time of filming) to curse, wear sexually suggestive outfits and kill people of course.In the film trailer she seems to be called all sorts of names by her father(played by Nicholas Cage) except her actual name.an example would be "babydoll" "hunnybunny" "child" and words similar to that refering to her as child and babydoll by her dad shows me they like to show to the subconcious that he has an alterior relationship with her besides father.
Also consider as a super hero she will most likely appear to have 2 personalities.A perfect cover story for mind control symbolism.

Interesting to note Nicholas Cage's nickname as a hero is Big daddy.
Anyway i think that this is relevant to lady gaga as there will for certain be illuminatti symbolism in that too and lady gaga is also well known for mind control.

Is it even a conspiracy that the media use mind control symbolism?

nullzero

The debate about occult symbolism in music and pop culture has been raging for decades.
Personally I think that if you're stupid enough to be taken in by pop music and pop culture bull**** you deserve all you get.
Lady Gaga is a clown as far as I'm concerned. Music in general is boring and vapid these days and acts like Lady Gaga are simply signposts to the deteriorating music industry. As for symbolism, it's really down to how each person percieves it. I can see how people see it in pop culture etc... so it may well be part of the NWO conspiracy to rape the minds of the planet, but I personally don't participate in it and thusly find myself quite removed from the whole "process".
If "they" want to get into my head via the music industry, the best place they could start is by doing it via music that's actually worth my while listening to, but then I'm not someone who eats fast food and slouches in front of the X factor every week either.
Maybe manipulation of the music industry was a good tactic for getting into the heads of the masses in the past, at the moment it seems a bit out dated.

tipperaryboy

Thats it you have got it 100 percent correct.

nullzero

Torakx wrote: »

Is it even a conspiracy that the media use mind control symbolism?

It is a conspiracy. What I think you mean is, is it a big secret? Of course it isn't. It's as obvious as the nose on your face. It's also easy to avoid, as modern music is rubbish anyway. "You are now under the spell of Lady Gaga" No I'm not, that music's sh1te, "Oh, ok that's my plan fvcked then".

Undergod

nullzero wrote: »

Music in general is boring and vapid these days and acts like Lady Gaga are simply signposts to the deteriorating music industry.

Mainstream and popular music in general has always been a bit rubbish and vapid. Technology may help people without talent to become famous nowadays, but the basic situation is the same.

Run_to_da_hills

She must be bad if she is condemed by the Daily Mail.

"Queen of sleaze: Lady Gaga conveys nasty images of overt sexuality"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1302594/Lady-Gaga-IS-poisoning-childrens-minds.html

FREETV

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

She must be bad if she is condemed by the Daily Mail.

"Queen of sleaze: Lady Gaga conveys nasty images of overt sexuality"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1302594/Lady-Gaga-IS-poisoning-childrens-minds.html

They all do, look at all the young kids dressed like miniature slags, hookers, being influenced by the Lady Gaga's, Pink, Christina Aguilera. These people make a lot of money, have depraved minds and don't care whether they are perverting and corrupting the minds of the youth. Their music is pure s***e! while they and Beyonce prance about on stage scantily clad with sexually explicit lyrics and gyrating sexual provocative movements and it's supposed to be entertaining and an art form! What a great role models they are for the youth. Wild girls everywhere on the net and adult sex service advertisements on TV3 and 3E while girls as young as 12 upwards are using these services with prepay mobile phones and having underage sex with Pedophiles. Believe me it is going on everyday allover the country. I witnessed it years ago in one family that I had the misfortune of knowing. So much for Social Services and the lax government. Is it any wonder that there minds are being thwarted by the images they see and half naked male dancers fondling and frisking these so called artists on stage in front of young teenagers? These kids that I am talking about were listening to Eminem, Aguilera and Beyonce constantly. Do you see a pattern somewhere? :eek:

Torakx

Was reading some earlier posts and noticed a comment or two in the direction that it may be just a good selling point of a producer director adding symbolism.
Hard to tell but i have a good video not well produced directed or hosted but the content is important imo and it gives insights into how handlers work with their erm victims i guess.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-891321698051955222#

Why i posted this is later on it shows Anne Nicole Smith in a child like state and britney spears rebelling against her handlers and most importantly to this thread it shows a ceremony symbolically showing Madonna passing on her queendom to Britney Spears and i think it was Christina Aguilera in a stage show where she french kisses them to the delight of fans.
Now considering these stars have handlers i would be very suprised to hear these handlers do all this for planting images in videos just to play on the conspiracy theory side for a bit of extra profit.
It appears to me that its more to do with sex slaves and manipulating the collective consiousness than anything else i can possibly think of at the moment.
See comment above for the social effects in the collective consciousness.

Undergod

That Daily Mail article makes good points about how the music is being marketed to inappropriately young audiences; but that's the fault of the record labels, not of the artists. Furthermore, it's a parent's responsibility to control access to this content- if you bring your six year old to a Rihanna concert, she as an artist shouldn't have to tone down her act.

Otherwise, the article is utter crap.

Bad Romance contains bondage

Bondage? How dare they?

No matter that the male dancers have to be tattooed to get the job — this is, after all, rough trade.

Because only Navvies have tattoos.

Shock value: Britney Spears and Madonna shared an infamous kiss at the MTV awards, as performers seek ever more explicit ways to impact on audiences

Women? Kissing? Call the Vatican!

The issue is not with the content of the music, it's with kids being exposed to it. Artists are not to blame. It's the fault of companies that market this stuff innappropriately, and the parents who let their kids watch it.

Torakx

Undergod wrote: »

That Daily Mail article makes good points about how the music is being marketed to inappropriately young audiences; but that's the fault of the record labels, not of the artists. Furthermore, it's a parent's responsibility to control access to this content- if you bring your six year old to a Rihanna concert, she as an artist shouldn't have to tone down her act.

Otherwise, the article is utter crap.


Bondage? How dare they?



Because only Navvies have tattoos.



Women? Kissing? Call the Vatican!

The issue is not with the content of the music, it's with kids being exposed to it. Artists are not to blame. It's the fault of companies that market this stuff innappropriately, and the parents who let their kids watch it.

Nice sig btw i loved George R R Martins series ice and fire.
On topic i think the video i posted the link for while long has alot of information or at least the idea of what might be happening with lude conduct on stage.
I agree parents should be responsible for teaching their kids what is right and wrong etc.
I also realise this would be fine in a perfect world but as it is kids are going to see this kind of stuff be it on mtv while the parents are not in the room or at a concert with friends where the parents have no clue what their kids are being exposed to.
Yes maybe the parents should monitor every bit of info the child/teen is going to be exposed to and take off their full time jobs etc to do so but thats slightly unpractical for most people to do.
My parents are fairly savy and one of them religious and big on the morality thing but i found out my younger sister listens to lady gaga rhiannna etc etc and while i dont like the sounds of that what can i do?
She is goign to be exposed to this stuff in school with her friends and when in her room my parents cant be watchign her 24/7 like a prison convict,let alone the fact my parents have no idea about the lyrics or videos being put out by these artists and the effects it has on kids and teenagers.
For me its just the reality of the situation i dont pretend to have a solution,its just how it is.
I suppose creating an awareness is the only decent thing anyone could do for younger people and their parents.
Of course it may be debateable with some as i know already on this forum as to wether suicide acting and lesbian gay kissing and murder are acceptable for young people to learn along with their favourite happy tune in most cases.
Lady Gaga is a perfect example.Telephone song check out the video.Also i found papa-razzi extremely catchy as a tune and the video F%cked up.

Undergod

Hey, sure come along to the convention if you can! You can get tickets on the site through paypal.

Why would lesbian gay kissing be any less acceptable for young people to learn than straight kissing? And I'm not saying the responsibility is solely on the parents- the record companies are involved too. And even if children can't be sheltered from everything objectionable, parents can still teach them how to distinguish right from wrong, or fantasy and fiction from reality and decent behaviour.

KamiKazi