Dublln SFC resumes

Spiritoftheseventies

Dublin SFC resumes tomorrow night. Some good games there. Maybe we will find out a bit more about who replaces Whelan and the overall state of Dublin club football.
Feel free to post on games. Crokes and Na Fianna could be a good game while Erin's Isle may well be returning to the days when they were a strong force. Luke Sweetman for Erins Isle definitely one to look out. A dublin under twenty one with a good athletics pedigree.

TUES, AUG 18
Evening Herald Dublin SFC
Parnell Park: St Brigids v Erins Isle, 6.45
Parnell Park: Na Fianna v Kilmacud Crokes, 8.30.
OToole Park: Thomas Davis v Ballyboden St Endas, 7.0.
Balgriffin: UCD v Trinity Gaels, 7.0.

SFC Relegation
Blakestown: St Annes v Naomh Mearnog, 7.0.

WED, AUG 19
Evening Herald Dublin SFC
OToole Park: Ballinteer St Johns v St Sylvesters, 7.0.
Blakestown: St Maurs v St Marys, 7.0.

SFC Relegation
Naul: Fingallians v Fingal Ravens,7.0.
Russell Park: Whitehall Colmcille v Naomh Olaf, 7.0.

THURS, AUG 20
Evening Herald SFC
Parnell Park: Clontarf v Raheny, 8.30.
OToole Park: St Marks v Parnells, 7.0.

brandon_flowers

He who has the most imports wins.

DDC1990

bayviewclose wrote: »

Crokes and Na Fianna could be a good game while Erin's Isle may well be returning to the days when they were a strong force. Luke Sweetman for Erins Isle definitely one to look out. A dublin under twenty one with a good athletics pedigree.

That may be so, but while he's been playing football through the summer, its been in America. He's not played much for Erins Isle.
It would be a fairly big upset if they won this.

homerjay2005

first 3 replies from kerrrymen!

My club is involved in one of these games, i was hoping to be involved but im out injured. massive game for us.

Spiritoftheseventies

DDC1990 wrote: »

That may be so, but while he's been playing football through the summer, its been in America. He's not played much for Erins Isle.
It would be a fairly big upset if they won this.

So he is doing some travelling. good to see. Yes they are starting next round a bit earlier than year but I think its to allow for replays and that they have a team ready for beginning of Leinster Club championships.

blackbelt

Will not get to see any of these games but there are some very interesting ties there mainly Crokes v Na Fianna,Isles v Brigids and Clontarf v Raheny.

Parnell Park: St Brigids v Erins Isle, 6.45

I feel an upset here.Isles are improving while Brigids have showed a propensity of disimprovement.They were brushed aside by Ballymun Kickhams last year and already suffered a very convincing loss to Plunketts in a game where they never looked like troubling their local rivals.

It will be interesting (for those of you who are lucky to see it) to see how Sweetman fairs against Cahill.

Isles by 2.

Parnell Park: Na Fianna v Kilmacud Crokes, 8.30.

This should be a good match but Crokes will not be as good as they were earlier in the year.This tie is a potential banana skin.Crokes are without Davoran and Vaughan while players like Burke,Magee and Griffin might still be hungover from the Kerry match.I think the difference will be Cian O Sullivan for Crokes who is my first choice full back for Dublin.Gilroy and Whelan are idiots if they do not look at this game and how O Sullivan gets on.

Crokes by 3

OToole Park: Thomas Davis v Ballyboden St Endas, 7.0.

This one is very tough to call.I think it is a case of hard hitting,swarm football v quick releasing,long passing football.I would lean towards Thomas Davis as they will likely try and smother Boden out of the game I feel.The loss of Colin Moran is huge for Ballyboden.

Thomas Davis by 5

Balgriffin: UCD v Trinity Gaels, 7.0.

Two teams that will not really feature in the shakeup of the championship.UCD to win this by virtue of their experience.

UCD by 6 points

SFC Relegation
Blakestown: St Annes v Naomh Mearnog, 7.0.

Naomh Mearnog to squeeze a win.Shane Ryan may be too much for a St Annes forward line.

Naomh Mearnog by 1.

OToole Park: Ballinteer St Johns v St Sylvesters, 7.0.

Ballinteer St Johns will be on a high after beating Kilmacud Crokes earlier in the summer.St Sylvesters are a good team but Ballinteer have the momentum and should get their nose over the line.

Ballinteer St Johns by 2

Blakestown: St Maurs v St Marys, 7.0.

Do not know too much about either team but I will go with St Mary's by the criteria that they got further last year.

St Mary's to win


SFC Relegation
Naul: Fingallians v Fingal Ravens,7.0.

Fingallians for the win.

Russell Park: Whitehall Colmcille v Naomh Olaf, 7.0.

Whitehall Colmcille to win.

Parnell Park: Clontarf v Raheny, 8.30.

This is an interesting game for the fact that that they are two local teams.However Raheny are playing in Division 1 and Clontarf are playing in Division 3 after being relegated from senior league football last year.Whelan and Henry will want to put the Kerry match behind them and Clontarf first team are not going great in AFL 3 after a shaky start.They have good players in Brian Stokes and David Lambert but Raheny is a big step up for Clontarf.

Raheny by 7

OToole Park: St Marks v Parnells, 7.0.

Parnells to win this after a dogfight.The introduction of Colm Parkinson may swing it in their factor.

Parnells by 2

Spiritoftheseventies

St Maurs have some good players. Danny Byrne their corner forward is exciting on the ball and a current minor. Someone said that Sweetman was away in America but is he back. As for Na Fianna and Crokes, I think Crokes should win. Erins Isle and Brigids could be the tie of the round here.

LeoB

bayviewclose wrote: »

St Maurs have some good players. Danny Byrne their corner forward is exciting on the ball and a current minor. Someone said that Sweetman was away in America but is he back. As for Na Fianna and Crokes, I think Crokes should win. Erins Isle and Brigids could be the tie of the round here.

Danny is a class act and along with Ciaran Reddin (also Maurs) played midfield for Dublin last Saturday. Danny eligable for Minor squad again next year. Maurs had 4 lads in Minor squad this year and 2 of them eligable again next year. Some very good young players in Maurs and the future looks bright but this will be a tough test. Dont rule out a win for the Fingal Lads. Have not seen Marys this year but last year I thought they were excellent side.

Erins Isle seem to be turning a corner. Maurs beat them in the league in a real dog fight in a gale of wind. Isles got some good scores but could not get a goal. Luke Sweetman will be a great addition to the isles squad. Powerful athlete. Former 4 or 800 or cross country schools champion? They will push Brigits close. Clontarf will be hard to beat. They have a few lads who have been around the block. Seems their problem is scoring. They lost a lot of games last year by a point or 2 and drew quite a few.

St. Annes really struggled against Maurs in the league a few weeks ago really silly errors. Think the final score was 2..13 to 1 ..7 with Annes goal in injury time. Mearnog seem to have regrouped and are doing well and this could be a big upset.

Going to say me prayers now for all the parish teams left in the championship;)

DDC1990

St Brigids 2-14 v Erins Isle 1-07 (second hand info - mightn't be fully accurate)

Kilmacud look too good for Na Fianna as well apparently. Mark Vaughan putting on a show with 5 points already.

LeoB

Great win for Mearnog. Talking to a lad this morning and he said they are flying. He was right. Bit suprised at Erins Isle. Thought they would push Brigits all the way. Hope its not an omen for Division 2 teams!!

Pride Fighter

Good to see my club Erins Isle back at senior level. My alma mater UCD always has a good team, I went to see them last year with flukey, mullet and blackbelt. It was a good day.

blackbelt

DDC1990 wrote: »

St Brigids 2-14 v Erins Isle 1-07 (second hand info - mightn't be fully accurate)

Kilmacud look too good for Na Fianna as well apparently. Mark Vaughan putting on a show with 5 points already.

:mad::mad::mad:

Should have been on the Dublin panel this year despite his injury earlier in the summer.

Didn't see the game but I heard Na Fianna only scored 7 points.Cian O Sullivan for full back PLEASE.

blackbelt

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Good to see my club Erins Isle back at senior level. My alma mater UCD always has a good team, I went to see them last year with flukey, mullet and blackbelt. It was a good day.

Sorry but no offense intended towards you Pridefighter but UCD isn't really a club and as much as I like to see a team come out of Dublin and win the club championships,I hope if any team does it,it won't be UCD as it is full of bangers.

Spiritoftheseventies

blackbelt wrote: »

:mad::mad::mad:

Should have been on the Dublin panel this year despite his injury earlier in the summer.

Didn't see the game but I heard Na Fianna only scored 7 points.Cian O Sullivan for full back PLEASE.

Yes O'Sullivan did very well last night. Vaughan after a slow start picked up. David Quinn the young full forward from Na Fianna looks promising.
Na Fianna battled well in the second half but Crokes just too strong. Pat Burke had a very good night as did Liam Og O hEineachain and Kavanagh.
As for Erins Isle did well enough in first half but once Kevin Bonner got goal it was curtains for them.
Seems to me that certain teams drop their head when the chips are down. Back door good for some but not for others.

Spiritoftheseventies

blackbelt wrote: »

:mad::mad::mad:

Should have been on the Dublin panel this year despite his injury earlier in the summer.

Didn't see the game but I heard Na Fianna only scored 7 points.Cian O Sullivan for full back PLEASE.

Yes O'Sullivan did very well last night. Vaughan after a slow start picked up. David Quinn the young full forward from Na Fianna looks promising.
Na Fianna battled well in the second half but Crokes just too strong. Pat Burke had a very good night as did Liam Og O hEineachain and Kavanagh.
As for Erins Isle did well enough in first half but once Kevin Bonner got goal it was curtains for them.
Seems to me that certain teams drop their head when the chips are down. Back door good for some but not for others.

Pride Fighter

blackbelt wrote: »

Sorry but no offense intended towards you Pridefighter but UCD isn't really a club and as much as I like to see a team come out of Dublin and win the club championships,I hope if any team does it,it won't be UCD as it is full of bangers.

Ah sure I know that. It has been great for Dublin hurling that the UCD hurlers have been kicked out of the hurling championship. Since that has happened we have come on leaps and bounds. I dont think the same would happen in football though.

I think UCD could become a proper club. They would be able to have Clonskeagh, Milltown and Donnybrook as a catchment area. They could have lots of underage and senior teams. It is unfair they play in Dublin championships without having a sizeable Dublin contingent.

Spiritoftheseventies

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Ah sure I know that. It has been great for Dublin hurling that the UCD hurlers have been kicked out of the hurling championship. Since that has happened we have come on leaps and bounds. I dont think the same would happen in football though.

I think UCD could become a proper club. They would be able to have Clonskeagh, Milltown and Donnybrook as a catchment area. They could have lots of underage and senior teams. It is unfair they play in Dublin championships without having a sizeable Dublin contingent.

Yes but they cater for Students. They are not a club as such.

LeoB

St. Marys 2..13 St. Maurs 1..14
Seems most people really only interested in how the "big" clubs do. There is life outside Division 1 lads and these 2 parish sides served up great stuff this evening.

Just back from St. Marys and St. Maurs and it would have done Dublin managment no harm to be there to see an exceptional display of skill from 2 very committed teams. Not all teams drop their heads. Maurs handed Marys 2 goals in 3 minutes in first half and went 7 points down. However Maurs tore into Marys and were only 5 behind at the break. They reduced the deficit with some super points and drew level with 4 minutes left and then fell for the sucker punch of conceding 2 points. A little experience seperated the sides.

Dont know any of the Marys players but they had a few very good performers in their side and kicked some very good scores.

St Maurs fielded a team and every one of them started off in the Nursery on Saturday morning. They were exceptional tonight and got some wonderful scores and what they lacked in size they made up for with a great work ethic and clever use of the ball. The Dublin Minor midfield pairing from last Satuday Ciaran Reddin and Danny Byrne both came on for Maurs and scored.

The referee was is also worth a mention, Garryowen McMahon He had a good game letting the play flow as much as possible. There was some hard hitting by times but it was always manly and no sly stuff. He had quiet word with a player from each side and everyone moved on.

Spiritoftheseventies

LeoB wrote: »

St. Marys 2..13 St. Maurs 1..14
Seems most people really only interested in how the "big" clubs do. There is life outside Division 1 lads and these 2 parish sides served up great stuff this evening.

Just back from St. Marys and St. Maurs and it would have done Dublin managment no harm to be there to see an exceptional display of skill from 2 very committed teams. Not all teams drop their heads. Maurs handed Marys 2 goals in 3 minutes in first half and went 7 points down. However Maurs tore into Marys and were only 5 behind at the break. They reduced the deficit with some super points and drew level with 4 minutes left and then fell for the sucker punch of conceding 2 points. A little experience seperated the sides.

Dont know any of the Marys players but they had a few very good performers in their side and kicked some very good scores.

St Maurs fielded a team and every one of them started off in the Nursery on Saturday morning. They were exceptional tonight and got some wonderful scores and what they lacked in size they made up for with a great work ethic and clever use of the ball. The Dublin Minor midfield pairing from last Satuday Ciaran Reddin and Danny Byrne both came on for Maurs and scored.

The referee was is also worth a mention, Garryowen McMahon He had a good game letting the play flow as much as possible. There was some hard hitting by times but it was always manly and no sly stuff. He had quiet word with a player from each side and everyone moved on.

Would not say everyone is just interested in big clubs. Point of thread is for posters to promote the championship.
As for Mary's Blaine Kelly is on Dublin panel. Marys won the league a few years ago.
As for other game last night, St Sylvesters won convincingly against Ballinteer. Eoin Bennis, the former UCD league of ireland striker was in good form as was Darren Clarke up at full forward and former Dublin under-21 John Coghlan who was impressive in midfield.
Tonight there is a good local derby in Parnell Park where Raheny take on Clontarf in Parnell Park at half eight.
Parnells play St Marks at seven in O Toole park. Hopefully we will see two close games tonight.

DDC1990

bayviewclose wrote: »

As for other game last night, St Sylvesters won convincingly against Ballinteer. Eoin Bennis, the former UCD league of ireland striker was in good form as was Darren Clarke up at full forward and former Dublin under-21 John Coghlan who was impressive in midfield.

He is a classy player alright, and should be on the Dublin panel at least. Saw a lot of him while he was playing for DIT, and he outshone the likes of Cian Ward, Mark Vaughan, Aiden Kilcoyne, Pádriag O Neill in being by far their best player. Perhaps lacks the blistering pace needed by players in Croke Park, but he would easily be as fast as Whelan.

LeoB

bayviewclose wrote: »

Would not say everyone is just interested in big clubs. Point of thread is for posters to promote the championship.
As for Mary's Blaine Kelly is on Dublin panel. Marys won the league a few years ago.
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And Maurs won Vincent de Paul and lost A.I.B final to Sylvesters.Not bad for a parish club fielding home grown talent. My point is we really need look outside the "big" clubs for talent. There is plenty of it there. Its no good paying lip service to clubs and while the point of the thread is to promote the championship the point or aim of the championship should be to unearth new talent, or recognise the talent that is there.

Spoke to a lad today who plays in Division 3 and he reckons Dublin could field a team out of Division 2 AND 3, ie Donnacha Reilly, Cullen, and Daly from Skerries, Eamon Fennell O'Tooles, Cluxton Parnells, Moore and Carthy St. Maurs, Sweetman Erins Isle, Shane Ryan, Bastic, Ciaran McGuinnes, and the Dublin minors from this year in fingal Gary Seever and Downey from Bally boughal and Reddin and Byrne from Maurs. Sam McGuinnes missed all the minor campaign due to 2 injuries but is an excellent full back. So the basis of a meaningful team is there without concentrating on Division 1 as we appear to do.

Spiritoftheseventies

LeoB wrote: »

And Maurs won Vincent de Paul and lost A.I.B final to Sylvesters.Not bad for a parish club fielding home grown talent. My point is we really need look outside the "big" clubs for talent. There is plenty of it there. Its no good paying lip service to clubs and while the point of the thread is to promote the championship the point or aim of the championship should be to unearth new talent, or recognise the talent that is there.

Spoke to a lad today who plays in Division 3 and he reckons Dublin could field a team out of Division 2 AND 3, ie Donnacha Cullen,Reilly and Daly from Skerries, Eamon Fennell O'Tooles, Cluxton, Moore and Carthy St. Maurs, Sweetman Erins Isle, Shane Ryan, Bastic, Ciaran McGuinnes, and the Dublin minors from this year in fingal Gary Seever and Downey from Bally boughal and Reddin and Byrne from Maurs. Sam McGuinnes missed all the minor campaign due to 2 injuries. So the basis of a meaningful team is there without concentrating on Division 1 as we appear to do.

One of the problems i think is the quality of games the Dublin SFC. From what i have seen the back door is not really working for the less established teams.
They fall behind and in most cases they drop the heads. St Marks to be fair really put it up to Parnells in the second half and that was a Parnells team that had Parkinson and Rooney in their line up.
Another crucial factor here is the under age talent coming through. Know hurling is a different game but look at Dublin team under Daly. Rushe, Treacy, Ross O'Carroll, all just out of school while a lot of the team are just a year or two out of the under 21s
Compare that to our senior footballers where the average age is much higher. We really need to start bringing the talent through. Try one or two out in the league.
As for McGuinness I think he would make a good impact sub. No Pillar tried out him out in a challenge game but nothing happened after that.

Drummerboy2

Dublin Senior Football Championship Round 4 Draw.



O’Tooles v. U.C.D.

Ballymun Kickhams v. Parnells

St Judes v. St Brigids

Round Towers © v. Kilmacud Crokes

St Peregrines v. Ballyboden St Endas

St Vincents v. St Marys

St Oliver Plunketts ER v. St Sylvesters

Lucan Sarsfields v. Raheny.

Mullet

Drummerboy2 wrote: »

Dublin Senior Football Championship Round 4 Draw.



O’Tooles v. U.C.D.

Ballymun Kickhams v. Parnells

St Judes v. St Brigids

Round Towers © v. Kilmacud Crokes

St Peregrines v. Ballyboden St Endas

St Vincents v. St Marys

St Oliver Plunketts ER v. St Sylvesters

Lucan Sarsfields v. Raheny.

When is the next round down to be played?

LeoB

bayviewclose wrote: »

One of the problems i think is the quality of games the Dublin SFC. From what i have seen the back door is not really working for the less established teams.
They fall behind and in most cases they drop the heads. St Marks to be fair really put it up to Parnells in the second half and that was a Parnells team that had Parkinson and Rooney in their line up.
Another crucial factor here is the under age talent coming through. Know hurling is a different game but look at Dublin team under Daly. Rushe, Treacy, Ross O'Carroll, all just out of school while a lot of the team are just a year or two out of the under 21s
Compare that to our senior footballers where the average age is much higher. We really need to start bringing the talent through. Try one or two out in the league.
As for McGuinness I think he would make a good impact sub. No Pillar tried out him out in a challenge game but nothing happened after that.

I see your point about the back door, luck plays a big part in the draw a division 2 team gets. My attitude is what does it mattter small clubs need to look to the challange of playing the big clubs, thats what it is all about. As for McGuinness he is just one of some excellent players never given a proper shot at establishing himself. To many players were given a run in O'Byrne cup or meaningless challenge match and that was that. In fairness to Gilroy he made a few changes in bringing in Hubbard, Brennan and it looked promising. Now he should go and watch OTooles, Perigrines and a few Div 2 league games. The players are there.

As for the next round of games I think Plunketts v Syls and Ballymun v Parnells could be really good games.

Spiritoftheseventies

Mullet wrote: »

When is the next round down to be played?

weekending september 6

blackbelt

WED, SEPT 2
SFC Parnell Park St Oliver Plunketts ER V. St Sylvesters Wednesday Sept 2nd 8-15pm
SFC Blunden Drive OTooles V. UCD Wednesday Sept 2nd 8-00pm

SFC Rel Balgriffin Naomh Olaf V. Fingal Ravens Wednesday Sept 2nd 8-00pm

THURS, SEPT 3
SFC Parnell Park St Judes V. St Brigids Thursday Sept 3rd 6-45pm
SFC Parnell Park Round Tower Clondalkin V. Kilmacud Crokes Thursday Sept 3rd 8-15pm
SFC Balgriffin Raheny V. Lucan Sarsfields Thursday Sept 3rd 8-15pm

FRID, SEPT 4
SFC Rel Kiltipper Road St Annes V. Templeogue Synge St Friday Sept 4th 8-00pm

SAT, SEPT 5
SFC Parnell Park St Peregrines V. Ballyboden St Endas Saturday Sept 5th 4-00pm
SFC Parnell Park Ballymun Kickhams V. Parnells Saturday Sept 5th 5-30pm
SFC OToole Park St Vincents V. St Marys Saggart Saturday Sept 5th 5-00pm

blackbelt

Some good games in the Dublin SFC this week.I think the tie of the round is Judes v Brigids and Ballymun Kickhams v Parnells.

I think Plunketts will beat Sylvesters by about 7 or 8 points.O Tooles and UCD will be close.O Tooles are a good team but without Fennell they could be much better.I think UCD will scrape it and get out of jail.Fingal Ravens to survive the drop.

Judes v Brigids is an intrigueing tie.Brigids beat Judes in the semi final in 2007 but Judes beat Oliver Plunketts Eoghan Ruaidh in the quarter final with a late goal.Plnketts then beat Brigids comfortably this year already and made the final last year.Based on the criteria and with Barry Cahill in defense,I'd give St Brigids the nod over Judes.

I can't see Round Towers Clondalkin beating Kilmacud Crokes.The experience and players are on Crokes side and with Cian O Sullivan and Paul Griffin in the backs,John O Brien and the Towers full forward line will have their work cut out for them.

Raheny v Lucan Sarsfield is another encounter that will raise a few eyebrows.Ciaran Whelan should dominate in midfield but I don't think he has the players around him to make as much difference as they should from the possession they'll get.David Henry may be the difference in the forward line but Paul Casey may be a weak link.I'll go for a Lucan Sarsfield 1 point win.Balgriffin may be a factor but Sarsfields will be very confident after beating Crokes in the summer.

Ballyboden St Endas v Peregrines is a good match on paper but I don't know too much about the Peregrines defense.I can only assume Conal Keaney will be the main threat and will pull Ballyboden through.

Ballymun Kickhams v Parnells will be a great game.I saw Parnells last year against Vincents and they were horribly bad.This year they seem to be getting the results but scraping them.Colm Parkinson will be a welcomed addition to Parnells but I don't think Cluxton can contain a Ballymun Kickhams half forward line that contains Ted Furman and co.Ballymun to win by 5.

St Vincents v St Mary's Saggart will be interesting from a Vincents perpective.Always a danger when you go a more direct route and come up against a well drilled team from the qualifiers.I think we (St Vincents) will win this with our pace,experience,fitness,teamwork and clever link up play.Tiernan Diamond,Connolly,Mossy Quinn and Ruairi Traynor (if starting) should be too much.St Mary's will have to find ways of geting goals and I can't see Michael Savage being beaten on more than one occasion and he also has a good full back line in front of him.Meanwhile placed kicks will be another factor in the game and Mossy should pip them over to get a good foothold in the game.

Spiritoftheseventies

blackbelt wrote: »

Some good games in the Dublin SFC this week.I think the tie of the round is Judes v Brigids and Ballymun Kickhams v Parnells.

I think Plunketts will beat Sylvesters by about 7 or 8 points.O Tooles and UCD will be close.O Tooles are a good team but without Fennell they could be much better.I think UCD will scrape it and get out of jail.Fingal Ravens to survive the drop.

Judes v Brigids is an intrigueing tie.Brigids beat Judes in the semi final in 2007 but Judes beat Oliver Plunketts Eoghan Ruaidh in the quarter final with a late goal.Plnketts then beat Brigids comfortably this year already and made the final last year.Based on the criteria and with Barry Cahill in defense,I'd give St Brigids the nod over Judes.

I can't see Round Towers Clondalkin beating Kilmacud Crokes.The experience and players are on Crokes side and with Cian O Sullivan and Paul Griffin in the backs,John O Brien and the Towers full forward line will have their work cut out for them.

Raheny v Lucan Sarsfield is another encounter that will raise a few eyebrows.Ciaran Whelan should dominate in midfield but I don't think he has the players around him to make as much difference as they should from the possession they'll get.David Henry may be the difference in the forward line but Paul Casey may be a weak link.I'll go for a Lucan Sarsfield 1 point win.Balgriffin may be a factor but Sarsfields will be very confident after beating Crokes in the summer.

Ballyboden St Endas v Peregrines is a good match on paper but I don't know too much about the Peregrines defense.I can only assume Conal Keaney will be the main threat and will pull Ballyboden through.

Ballymun Kickhams v Parnells will be a great game.I saw Parnells last year against Vincents and they were horribly bad.This year they seem to be getting the results but scraping them.Colm Parkinson will be a welcomed addition to Parnells but I don't think Cluxton can contain a Ballymun Kickhams half forward line that contains Ted Furman and co.Ballymun to win by 5.

St Vincents v St Mary's Saggart will be interesting from a Vincents perpective.Always a danger when you go a more direct route and come up against a well drilled team from the qualifiers.I think we (St Vincents) will win this with our pace,experience,fitness,teamwork and clever link up play.Tiernan Diamond,Connolly,Mossy Quinn and Ruairi Traynor (if starting) should be too much.St Mary's will have to find ways of geting goals and I can't see Michael Savage being beaten on more than one occasion and he also has a good full back line in front of him.Meanwhile placed kicks will be another factor in the game and Mossy should pip them over to get a good foothold in the game.

Yes I think Parnells and Ballymun Kickhams has the potential to be a very good game and would expect Plunketts to win through against Sylvesters despite the presence of Darren Clarke and Eoin Bennis up front.
Towers had a good run two years ago and Ian Ward and John O'Brien are two players who have come through their under age ranks. Murray another very solid player.
As for Crokes, have had a decent enough look at Cian O'Sullivan at this stage and I think he has the potential to break full time into that Dublin team.
If you look at our full back line (and I know Rory O'Carrolls departure to do some travelling forced Gilroys hand a bit) two of those players in Andrews and Bastick both play further outfield for the club.
I think O Sullivan and team mate O'Carroll are two players we can try out in the league next year in full back line.
As for Peregrines again Ill make a case for McGuinness who always starts the game very brightly.
I think we need someone to ignite the spark when things are going badly for Dublin and I think as an impact sub, McGuinness should be considered.
As for Vincents and Mary's, Marys need to contain Mossy who always seem to pop up with a goal in these games.
A big display needed from Connolly and again Mary's as former Division one champions can not be ruled out.
Anyway some good games on offer here.

blackbelt

bayviewclose wrote: »

Yes I think Parnells and Ballymun Kickhams has the potential to be a very good game and would expect Plunketts to win through against Sylvesters despite the presence of Darren Clarke and Eoin Bennis up front.
Towers had a good run two years ago and Ian Ward and John O'Brien are two players who have come through their under age ranks. Murray another very solid player.
As for Crokes, have had a decent enough look at Cian O'Sullivan at this stage and I think he has the potential to break full time into that Dublin team.
If you look at our full back line (and I know Rory O'Carrolls departure to do some travelling forced Gilroys hand a bit) two of those players in Andrews and Bastick both play further outfield for the club.
I think O Sullivan and team mate O'Carroll are two players we can try out in the league next year in full back line.
As for Peregrines again Ill make a case for McGuinness who always starts the game very brightly.
I think we need someone to ignite the spark when things are going badly for Dublin and I think as an impact sub, McGuinness should be considered.
As for Vincents and Mary's, Marys need to contain Mossy who always seem to pop up with a goal in these games.
A big display needed from Connolly and again Mary's as former Division one champions can not be ruled out.
Anyway some good games on offer here.

It is great to get back to real football ain't it.:):D

Any team that boasts 3 regular intercounty forwards and a tall intercounty midfielder has no excuse to lose a game like this.However,people wrote Judes off and they beat Plunketts but Plunketts seem to be a more cohesive unit in the last two years,winning the league 2007-2008 and getting to the final of the Dublin SFC last year.

I think Towers will make the game very difficult for Crokes in the opening exchanges but Cian O Sullivan is the best defender in Dublin along with Henry in my opinion.John O Brien is very good with the frees from the hands so Crokes will have to keep it in their mind not to concede frees particularly inside the 20m line.O Sullivan has to be in the hotseat for full back though.If Na Fianna could only get 8 pints in 60 minutes of football,he is the man for the full back position.Get Bastic playing in midfield for some games so that we widen our options for Dublin and are able to confuse other intercounty teams.O Sullivan has Kerry roots also so this bodes well for Dublin to have a person with natural ability which he possesses.

I don't know too much about Peregrines as I have not seen them play in donkey's years at this level but come 4pm on Saturday I will watch out for McGuinness as you suggested.I'll be there every day in Parnell Park to see plenty of real and exciting football.Anytime I see the lights on in Parnell Park from my house,whether its a colleges match,I like to take a stroll down the road and check out the games.

Will you be down in the Nell this week Bayviewclose?

LeoB

bayviewclose wrote: »

I think O Sullivan and team mate O'Carroll are two players we can try out in the league next year in full back line.
As for Peregrines again Ill make a case for McGuinness who always starts the game very brightly.
I think we need someone to ignite the spark when things are going badly for Dublin and I think as an impact sub, McGuinness should be considered.

Forgive me but do you lads ever look outside Division 1? This is a big problem for Dublin in that people seem to assume O'Sullivan and O Carroll will be given a run during the league. They probably will but Gilroy needs to look beyond Division 1 if he wants to achieve anything other than a Leinster title. There are loads of good players outside Division 1 but they are constantly overlooked and we end up with players who look good in club sides manufactured to win a Senior championship. This does not make them good enough for County football.

Crokes, Boden, Vincents, Kickhams, Lucan, Brigits, U.C.D and Plunketts to progress. But it would be good for the game if we had an upset.

blackbelt

LeoB wrote: »

Forgive me but do you lads ever look outside Division 1? This is a big problem for Dublin in that people seem to assume O'Sullivan and O Carroll will be given a run during the league. They probably will but Gilroy needs to look beyond Division 1 if he wants to achieve anything other than a Leinster title. There are loads of good players outside Division 1 but they are constantly overlooked and we end up with players who look good in club sides manufactured to win a Senior championship. This does not make them good enough for County football.

Crokes, Boden, Vincents, Kickhams, Lucan, Brigits, U.C.D and Plunketts to progress. But it would be good for the game if we had an upset.

To concede,I have to admit that I don't see much Division 2 football for the fact that when these games are on,I am usually refereeing.However I have seen teams like Parnells and Whitehall Colmcilles play.Incidentally these are two other local teams for me.I have seen them play against Vincents over the years and while we totally outplayed them,I did see some good players.

Unfortunately,any time I have seen them in championship,it has been the case they were on a very wrong end of a result.This isn't to say they aren't good players but it makes it very hard to quantify how they'd fair in intercounty football.We have some good players on the Dublin team that play in Division 2.Players like Shane Ryan,Bryan Cullen,Blaine Kelly,Denis Bastick and Eamon Fennell (O Tooles for now).

The idea of the regional playoffs in Balgriffin was a very good one but yet we have only seen a small handful of new players in Hubbard and Blaine Kelly.Remember Bastick had a run under Pillar which never worked out and he then won the All Ireland with the Dublin juniors and got a recall up to senior.So that project never reaped up any new outstanding players.

The only upset I can see this weekend may be Judes beating Brigids but that would hardly be a shock,more of a surprise.O Tooles v UCD could go either way also.

Spiritoftheseventies

LeoB wrote: »

Forgive me but do you lads ever look outside Division 1? This is a big problem for Dublin in that people seem to assume O'Sullivan and O Carroll will be given a run during the league. They probably will but Gilroy needs to look beyond Division 1 if he wants to achieve anything other than a Leinster title. There are loads of good players outside Division 1 but they are constantly overlooked and we end up with players who look good in club sides manufactured to win a Senior championship. This does not make them good enough for County football.

Crokes, Boden, Vincents, Kickhams, Lucan, Brigits, U.C.D and Plunketts to progress. But it would be good for the game if we had an upset.

Sorry if you looik at rest of post you will see I mentioned McGuinness. But Cian O'Sullivan an under-21 so he has a good pedigree. In any case I think how the players perform with their sigerson cup teams in terms of selecting teams for the league is a good yardstick as well.
They are performing against other county players from the various colleges.

blackbelt

bayviewclose wrote: »

Sorry if you looik at rest of post you will see I mentioned McGuinness. But Cian O'Sullivan an under-21 so he has a good pedigree. In any case I think how the players perform with their sigerson cup teams in terms of selecting teams for the league is a good yardstick as well.
They are performing against other county players from the various colleges.

Yes this is very true but the question is,would/will Gilroy and Whelan even take the Sigerson Cup seriously?They didn't seem to take the O Byrne Cup or League seriously and look what happened?

Under Pillar,the O Byrne Cup was taken seriously as it was a great way of unearthing new players and getting them used to winning games and some silverware.What I want to see in January is players who stood out in the club championships and blue stars game to be given a good chance in the O Byrne Cup and then the league and championship.

Gilroy and Whelan ought to be out in O Toole Park,Balgriffin and Parnell Park looking at the array of quality players we have and they should be gearing themselves toward the O Byrne Cup now.

Pride Fighter

Still a bit to go. I wonder what the odds a Dublin club will get the 3 in a row of all Irelands:)

Spiritoftheseventies

blackbelt wrote: »

Yes this is very true but the question is,would/will Gilroy and Whelan even take the Sigerson Cup seriously?They didn't seem to take the O Byrne Cup or League seriously and look what happened?

Under Pillar,the O Byrne Cup was taken seriously as it was a great way of unearthing new players and getting them used to winning games and some silverware.What I want to see in January is players who stood out in the club championships and blue stars game to be given a good chance in the O Byrne Cup and then the league and championship.

Gilroy and Whelan ought to be out in O Toole Park,Balgriffin and Parnell Park looking at the array of quality players we have and they should be gearing themselves toward the O Byrne Cup now.

Well its a good way to measure how a player will fare against other inter county players. And its a big enough competition at that time of year.

LeoB

blackbelt wrote: »

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.Players like Shane Ryan,Bryan Cullen,Blaine Kelly,Denis Bastick and Eamon Fennell (O Tooles for now).

The idea of the regional playoffs in Balgriffin was a very good one but yet we have only seen a small handful of new players in Hubbard and Blaine Kelly.Remember Bastick had a run under Pillar which never worked out and he then won the All Ireland with the Dublin juniors and got a recall up to senior.So that project never reaped up any new outstanding players.
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Kelly and Fennell have hardly got a look in. My only real point is we go back to the same pool all the time and the material is in my opinion not there. If Dublin are serious Blaine Kelly should be left on for all league games. He plays with St. Marys who are a fairly small club who dont have the overall strength to compete with the big clubs. But the lad is well worth a prolonged run. I have seen at least 10 - 12 players playing this year in Division 2 who were exceptional. They might get a run in O'Byrne Cup but thats it really.

For the good of Dublin football this must change. I am not suggesting by the way the lads who are on the Dublin panel are not good players but we need a different mix. A lot of people I talk to would often say wonder if Crokes, Vincents or Na Fianna have anything coming through. They need to understand there are a lot more clubs in Dublin than the one's who play Division 1 and 2.

Kerry are a good example of their panel of 30 for Dublin match 14 players were from outside Div 1 and 2. Ok their structure is different but if you are good enough you are given a chance. I dont think the same applies in Dublin.

Was at a minor match tonight an amalgamation of 4 clubs Round Towers Lusk, Man-O-War, Ballyboughal and Clann Mhuire, Cu Cullain played St. Maurs in Fingal Minor league final. Some very good players on view. Why are the county board not looking at getting them to play in Senior championship? They are as entitled to play as U.C.D.! You also have players getting the chance to top club football (hurling) without having to leave their own parish club. Maurs won 1..17 to 9pts with Dublin Minor Ciaran Reddin scoring 1..7.

Anyway lets hope new talent comes to the fore this week.

blackbelt

It sure is but Sigerson Cup football can be very deceiving.With the amount of country players in Dublin colleges plus the Dublin intercounty players,will there be enough players (good enough) on those teams to watch out for?

Spiritoftheseventies

LeoB wrote: »

Kelly and Fennell have hardly got a look in. My only real point is we go back to the same pool all the time and the material is in my opinion not there. If Dublin are serious Blaine Kelly should be left on for all league games. He plays with St. Marys who are a fairly small club who dont have the overall strength to compete with the big clubs. But the lad is well worth a prolonged run. I have seen at least 10 - 12 players playing this year in Division 2 who were exceptional. They might get a run in O'Byrne Cup but thats it really.

For the good of Dublin football this must change. I am not suggesting by the way the lads who are on the Dublin panel are not good players but we need a different mix. A lot of people I talk to would often say wonder if Crokes, Vincents or Na Fianna have anything coming through. They need to understand there are a lot more clubs in Dublin than the one's who play Division 1 and 2.

Kerry are a good example of their panel of 30 for Dublin match 14 players were from outside Div 1 and 2. Ok their structure is different but if you are good enough you are given a chance. I dont think the same applies in Dublin.

Was at a minor match tonight an amalgamation of 4 clubs Round Towers Lusk, Man-O-War, Ballyboughal and Clann Mhuire, Cu Cullain played St. Maurs in Fingal Minor league final. Some very good players on view. Why are the county board not looking at getting them to play in Senior championship? They are as entitled to play as U.C.D.! You also have players getting the chance to top club football (hurling) without having to leave their own parish club. Maurs won 1..17 to 9pts with Dublin Minor Ciaran Reddin scoring 1..7.

Anyway lets hope new talent comes to the fore this week.

like i said before, no harm trying Fingal out in a lower league like they did in the hurling. And who knows we might get a few players out of it.
Its a big enough area to merit its own team. Last sixteen will tell us how competitive Dublin SFC really is. Still a lot of one sides games so far.

blackbelt

Looking forward to tonights game between Plunketts and Sylvesters.Lets hope for a cracker.I'd love if Sylvesters got a great start and see how Plunketts respond but I can only see one winner here.

Spiritoftheseventies

blackbelt wrote: »

Looking forward to tonights game between Plunketts and Sylvesters.Lets hope for a cracker.I'd love if Sylvesters got a great start and see how Plunketts respond but I can only see one winner here.

Watch out for Darren Clarke for Sylvesters. Had a good game in the last round. But Plunkeets will be too strong overall. Definitely a championship in this Plunketts team but I think Crokes are a proven team in defence.

LeoB

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Still a bit to go. I wonder what the odds a Dublin club will get the 3 in a row of all Irelands:)

Were Vincents the last Dublin club to win that title? in 1975 or 76

Did any of the games go ahead tonight?
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Jackie Healy-Rea is the man;)

Spiritoftheseventies

LeoB wrote: »

Were Vincents the last Dublin club to win that title? in 1975 or 76

Did any of the games go ahead tonight?
.
Jackie Healy-Rea is the man;)

Yes Vincents won it in seventies. Just back from Parnell Park. Plunketts win 1-14 to 1-11. Wind, rain, a few goals, a few altercations. Entertaining stuff. Alan Brogan took his goal well and Bernard had a very good second half.

DDC1990

bayviewclose wrote: »

Yes Vincents won it in seventies. Just back from Parnell Park. Plunketts win 1-14 to 1-11. Wind, rain, a few goals, a few altercations. Entertaining stuff. Alan Brogan took his goal well and Bernard had a very good second half.

Closer then i expected. How did John Coughlan play for Sylvesters?

Spiritoftheseventies

DDC1990 wrote: »

Closer then i expected. How did John Coughlan play for Sylvesters?

Did ok. Big rain blowing towards Craobh Chiarain club house end. A Brogan came in for a bit of attention tonight tonight. Ross McConnell did well for Plunketts while Plunketts pulled off a good save before the break to keep them ahead at half time.
Overall a very competititiive fixture. Plunketts had a man sent off with five to go but they held on with late points from Moyles and a late free to win by three.

An Citeog

LeoB wrote: »

Were Vincents the last Dublin club to win that title? in 1975 or 76

No, Crokes won it in 95. Before that, it was Vincents in 76.

blackbelt

Was at the game tonight and it is great to be back watching real football...yes REAL football.

A very close match and credit to both teams for giving us an entertaining contest.Sylvesters played very well in the opening exchanges and players like Eoin Bennis,Darren Clarke,John Coughlin,Barry Ryan and Airy Cleery impressed me a lot at times.The Brogans and Jayo were quieter than usual but they did pitch in with some fine scores and Alan took the goal well.Jayo's link up play was immense.Seemed to know where players were without having to look up.Nesty's free taking was superb at times.

However,I think Sylvesters could feel hard done by.There was two occasions where the referee failed to spot pickups and these resulted in 2 points for Plunketts and a crucial time in the 2nd half,that was the only difference between the sides.There was two occasions where both goalkeepers were time wasting but yet Sylvesters were the only team punished and there was 3 or 4 occasions where Plunketts should have been done for over-carrying.

The referee lost control of the match in the 3rd quarter of the match and some minor tussles were becoming more and more common.

On a different day the result could have been different but Plunketts are now in the quarter finals.Thankfully the weather conditions didn't play a huge part.

Standout players for Plunketts were Gareth "Nesty" Smith,The Brogans,Jayo,Ross McConnell and David Matthews.

Tomorrow night sees Brigids v Judes and Crokes v Round Towers,Clondalkin.Two good games to look forward to.

Pride Fighter

blackbelt wrote: »

Tomorrow night sees Brigids v Judes and Crokes v Round Towers,Clondalkin.Two good games to look forward to.

It's based on no logic but I have a feeling for round towers. They are a very fit and well motivated team. I went to school with one or two of them as well so they would have some young enough players, or maybe I am kidding myself as I am an auld fella;)

blackbelt

Pride Fighter wrote: »

It's based on no logic but I have a feeling for round towers. They are a very fit and well motivated team. I went to school with one or two of them as well so they would have some young enough players, or maybe I am kidding myself as I am an auld fella;)

All on the day.Tonight Sylvesters had a great chance of upsetting Plunketts but too many times for a 5 minute spell when they were 2 behind in the 2nd half,they ran themselves into cul-de-sacs along the sideline and we had sparks of swarm football.Plus Syls got a few decisions against them so the result could have been different.

Tomorrow night we could very well see a game where Towers get the breaks and use them but I think Crokes experience,players and team work will be too much for Towers.

blackbelt

Looking forward to tonights games between Judes and Brigids and then Kilmacud Crokes v Round Towers,Clondalkin.I will be watching Cian O Sullivan to see how he performs tonight.Towers forwards will probably tear their hair out in frustration with the amount of ball O Sullivan will win if on form.

Also,Mark Vaughan and how he will maintain his form.

Spiritoftheseventies

blackbelt wrote: »

Looking forward to tonights games between Judes and Brigids and then Kilmacud Crokes v Round Towers,Clondalkin.I will be watching Cian O Sullivan to see how he performs tonight.Towers forwards will probably tear their hair out in frustration with the amount of ball O Sullivan will win if on form.

Also,Mark Vaughan and how he will maintain his form.

Yes Vaughan very much a confidence player. Will hit three silly wides and then knock over five terrific points. He is like that. Liam Og did well last time out and Pat Burke a good worker as well.
Havent see Towers recently but their work rate has always impressed me. Just need a bit more guile when it comes to breaking teams down. As for Brigids and Judes, you are again looking at Paddy Andrews and Kevin Bonnar to do the damage while Judes of course the have the two McMenamins.
Last nights game in Parnell Park while tempestuous at times was engaging so here is hoping for more of the same.