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Research A Soldier

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    Medal Index Card suggests 7th battalion.

    A summary of the 7th Bn can be found at

    http://www.offaly.ie/eng/Services/Libraries/Images/Leingster-Regiment-Lecture-Series.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 clowny1916


    Thanks for that johnny_Doyle I found the medal index card earlier but couldn't make it out would you no what time frame he was over their or when the medal was awarded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    the MIC shows he entered France 17th December 1915. The Long Long Trail page suggests the 7th landed at Le Havre on the 18th December. Not unusual to see a day or so variance.

    http://www.1914-1918.net/leinster.htm

    I think his Leinster Regt number means he enlisted early in 1914 (number 1328 enlisted 1/2/1914), probably to 2nd Battalion (a check of the CWGC database shows most men with numbers near 1322 who died were 2nd Battalion)

    Labour Corps was form in April 1917. You may want to contact the chaps mentioned on this page for further info re the Labour Corps

    http://www.royalpioneercorps.co.uk/rpc/history_records.htm

    The MIC shows he was discharged to Class Z Reserve (ie liable to immediate call up if hostilities with Germany started again) on 31st March 1919.

    He was awarded 3 campaign medals which would have been posted to his last know address from 1919 onwards :

    1914-15 Star
    British War Medal
    Victory Medal

    See the following link for more info re each

    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 clowny1916


    Thank you very much for the information ita been a great help. I'll look into them links on the labour corps


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Looking for information of my grandfather. His name was Robert Smith, from Waterford Ireland.Served in the royal navy during WW1. It says on his cap HMTBD, which stands for Her Majesty's torpedo boat destroyer.

    Would love to know where he served, and perhaps what vessel he served on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    This could be an interesting one, for sure. It's not often we hear about sailors on the smaller combat vessels in either WW1 or 2.

    BTW, the cap badge stands for HIS Majesty's etc - the king at the time was George V.

    Let us know how you get on.

    tac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    tac foley wrote: »
    This could be an interesting one, for sure. It's not often we hear about sailors on the smaller combat vessels in either WW1 or 2.

    BTW, the cap badge stands for HIS Majesty's etc - the king at the time was George V.

    Let us know how you get on.

    tac

    I'll do my best , There's literally very little I know of my Grandfathers whereabouts during WW1. He died a long time before I was born so I don't any of his stories or anything. I know that he earned three medals during the war though.

    and thanks for the correction,

    Mrnotlob


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭johnny_doyle


    are the medals still in the family? They should have his number on the rim of the medals which could help in looking on the UK National Archives website for records e.g. the following are listed as Waterford Smiths but nothing for your man (so far)

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6905889

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7101527

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6958882

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7033303


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭johnciall


    tac foley wrote: »
    This could be an interesting one, for sure. It's not often we hear about sailors on the smaller combat vessels in either WW1 or 2.

    BTW, the cap badge stands for HIS Majesty's etc - the king at the time was George V.

    Let us know how you get on.

    tac

    I'm currently trying to get my Grandfathers & Great-grandfathers records, I know my Grandfather was a Lt-Cmdr on MTBs I'll share what info I find if you want


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SkilledDVR


    My Grandfather served in the British army during The Great War, with only his name and D.O.B. to go on I could never find anything out about his service.

    Yesterday I saw some medals, inscribed on one was

    238768 DVR J McCarthy R.A.

    If someone could explain to me what this means and also if it is possible to find out anything about my Grandfathers service in the War,

    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    DVR is his military occupation, and, in this case, also his rank. He was a driver of a miltary vehicle of some kind, the equivalent of Private soldier in the R.A. - Royal Artillery. If he had been a Gunner, he would have been called Gunner McCarthy.

    Private soldiers were known by different titles in different military organisations -

    Royal Engineers - Sappers.

    Light Infantry - Rifleman.

    Royal Electrical & Mechanical Engineers - Craftsman [not in WW1, though, the organisation per se did not exist.]

    Royal Corps of Signals - Signalman.

    Infantry - Private.

    Fusiliers, a type of infantryman - Fusilier.

    Cavalry, who fought FROM horseback - Trooper, or, in the case of Dragoons, who were mounted infantry who fought after getting OFF their horses, Private.

    Royal Corps of Transport - Driver, like your relative.

    Royal Marines, who are actually part of the Royal Navy and NOT Army - Marine.

    I'm sure the more able here will be able to put you in the way of more information, but as he was not a fatal casualty you may well be disappointed. The Royal Artillery in WW1 was a HUGE organisation, and unless you can tie him down to a regiment and its associated regimental history you'll be very lucky to find out any more.

    Good luck.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    DVR can also mean Driver in the sense of someone who was responsible for the horses that moved the pieces of artillery into position.

    I had a search for his number in Ancestry archives but nothing came up except for his medal card and that he moved into the labour corps after the RA. A common occurrence for those who wanted the work.

    Do you have a town or county for J McCarthy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    As I understood it all entrants to the Royal Regiment, be it RGA/RFA/RHA joined as 'Gunners', however if they were tasked in training/at their Battery to 'drive' the Gun and Limber horses, they were then titled as 'Drivers' - responsible for two horses. The ranks were at the same level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SkilledDVR


    Thanks guys!

    That sheet is a nice find! Where did you find it and what year was it published?

    After speaking to a relative I now know that James worked with Horses during the war (it was phrased as looked after horses), I know that he was shot in the leg during the war and was in poor health for the rest of his life after returning.

    He lived in Cappoquin, Co. Waterford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SkilledDVR


    SkilledDVR wrote: »
    Thanks guys!

    That sheet is a nice find! Where did you find it and what year was it published?

    After speaking to a relative I now know that James worked with Horses during the war (it was phrased as looked after horses), I know that he was shot in the leg during the war and was in poor health for the rest of his life after returning.

    He lived in Cappoquin, Co. Waterford.

    I know that he also received a pension, would tracking this pension, if possible, give anymore clues?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Would his pension have continued after The Truce or later independence?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SkilledDVR


    tac foley wrote: »
    Would his pension have continued after The Truce or later independence?

    I thought, maybe on a presumption that he would have got the pension for the remainder of his life? I wish I had more details, he passed away almost 20 years before I was born as have my father's generation so there is no one really to ask


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Just thinking - like my own dad, he would have been a citizen of the United Kingdom when he was born, so he would have undoubtedly met all the criteria for overseas payment of pension.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    SkilledDVR wrote: »
    Thanks guys!

    That sheet is a nice find! Where did you find it and what year was it published?

    It's from the WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 available on Ancestry. Here's the full version, dated 1920

    nLhrPpQ.jpg



    I also found his pension records index on Ancestry which points to a link on Fold3, something that I don't have access to. You can sign up there yourself or you can join one of the various Facebook groups that may just do such a look-up for you.


    https://i.imgur.com/E3RFGXX.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭jos28


    Apologies in advance for being cheeky but I don't have an Ancestry subscription at the moment. I'm helping a friend trace her Grandfather and would be very grateful for an Ancestry look up. He is William Weldon, born Wood Quay Dublin around 1892. She thinks he may have been in the Dublin Fusiliers.
    Many thanks


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    jos28 wrote: »
    Apologies in advance for being cheeky but I don't have an Ancestry subscription at the moment. I'm helping a friend trace her Grandfather and would be very grateful for an Ancestry look up. He is William Weldon, born Wood Quay Dublin around 1892. She thinks he may have been in the Dublin Fusiliers.
    Many thanks

    Do you have him in the 1901 census or how parents names? Often this will help identify him if his records are available.


    EDIT: Looking at the medal roll index there seems to only be 1 William Weldon with an Irish regiment (Royal Irish Rifles) but he died in 1914. After spending 5 minutes looking nothing obvious appears for your William.

    Edit2: If your William Weldon is the son of Jane and who married Christine Griffin then he was born in 1891 in Upper Bride street and not Wood Quay (though I don't know Dublin and those places may be next to each other).

    Edit3: This site allows you to search for soldiers who may have been in the RIR or the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Unfortunately William does not appear.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,294 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Ponster wrote: »
    Edit2: If your William Weldon is the son of Jane and who married Christine Griffin then he was born in 1891 in Upper Bride street and not Wood Quay (though I don't know Dublin and those places may be next to each other).

    I think it's Upper Bridge Street and yes, it is right beside Merchant's Quay which runs into Wood Quay.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,294 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    If she is sure he served, I wonder did he serve under another name. Many did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭jos28


    Thanks a million folks for the responses. I will get some more information from her and hopefully that will help. I never realised that people enlisted under another name. I'd heard of brothers using their older brothers details alright.
    Get back to you asap, many thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭enfield


    If you have his medals his name, rank,, number and unit will be on them, his pension record it will also have this info. Keep a look for any photographs of him as his cap badge will show his regiment.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Looking for any help with this chap.

    This memorial stone lists a 'P Waterhouse' who fought with the 'Canadians' http://homepage.tinet.ie/~tipperaryfame/cahirmem.htm

    I have been unable to find any Waterhouses who's first name begins with a 'P' on either Ancestry or any of the free Canadian sites (Canadian Archives) and thought that I'd ask in here before giving up :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,294 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    He is probably from the Waterhouses of Garryroan, Cahir, who were this family:

    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Killiney/Killiney_Road_Upper/1317584/

    moved to their mother Rachel Ffennell's family home.

    The initial may be a mistranscription.

    **edit checking the Canadian archives, I believe it should be F, for Frederick as it gives his birth place as Killiney.

    Hope this link works: https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B10116-S027

    If not, search for him here: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/personnel-records.aspx


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    spurious wrote: »
    He is probably from the Waterhouses of Garryroan, Cahir, who were this family...

    OK. All of that makes sense. Rachel Waterhouse looks to have been Rachel Fennell from the Cahir area before marring and moving to Killiney where historically there seems to only have been one Waterhouse family resident.

    I've been through the Waterhouses on the Canadian page and only found Fred as the possible candidate.

    So I think that you're right but I hate having to twist something to make the story work if you know what I mean.

    Thanks for the work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭enfield


    Waterhouse , Fred . (Dublin). Rank- Private . Regiment/Service;- Canadian Infantry . Unit;- 8th Battalion . Ser No;- . Date of death;- 23/04/1915 . Age;- 20 . Born;- Dublin . Residence;- Killiney . Death;- Killed in action . Next of kin, etc;- Son of Thomas George and Rachael Josephene Waterhouse. Grave/Memorial;- Panel 24-26-28-30 . Cemetery;- Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Roove_man433


    Hello.im also related to Thomas Donachie and I'm wondering.he would off fought in the galipoli war but that's all I know about him so I'm wondering how would he off gotten from galipoli to dunkirk.like what happened in between those two events.thank u.if someon can help could they please respond


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Hi , I'm a great grandson of Thomas Donachie who fought in Gallipoli, I'm only seeing your post today.



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