Ebay Dodgy Irish Mass Clearance Seller

con71

Anybody else come across this:
http://shop.ebay.ie/merchant/massclearance654_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ

If you look at his previous buyers (60 of them) all previous sales are of a John Smith Bar Towel.
What He's selling now are TVs, N95, Consoles, etc all at €54.
Too dodgy by far!!!

Gulliver

"If it looks to good to be true..." etc.

Everyone who "left feedback" has 0 feedback themselves and managed to leave feedback roughly 3 minutes apart. How very organised of them. Avoid.

Judgement Day

con71 wrote: »

Anybody else come across this:
http://shop.ebay.ie/merchant/massclearance654_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ

If you look at his previous buyers (60 of them) all previous sales are of a John Smith Bar Towel.
What He's selling now are TVs, N95, Consoles, etc all at €54.
Too dodgy by far!!!

I've just reported him to eBay. I've never seen a more blatant set-up. Did you notice the way that ALL of his buyers had (0) feedback!! If this guy isn't removed at once - eBay gets worse by the day. There isn't even a simple way to report these chancers. There should be a red button type option to report crooks - sorry over enthusiastic sellers. :mad:

eBAY - If they are any damn good, will also have to remove all 60 fictious buyers from their system too as they are obviously the same individual!

Sleipnir

€54 for a 50" Plasma Samsung? Gimme a break!
If anyone buys something off this guy, they deserve what they get.

Judgement Day

Just received this automated response from eBay - let's see how long it takes before this guy is axed.

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ttm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Just received this automated response from eBay - let's see how long it takes before this guy is axed.

Thank you for letting us know about a listing or seller you would like
us to investigate for fraudulent activity. We are very concerned about
this type of activity and we will review your report as soon as
possible, usually within 24 hours.

Due to privacy concerns, we cannot keep you informed about the status of
our investigation. While you will only receive this acknowledgement of
the receipt of your report, please be assured that we will thoroughly
review the situation.

IMPORTANT:

The subject line you chose on the webform is reserved for reporting
current items that may be listed for the purpose of committing fraud.

In order for us to dedicate resources to preventing this type of
situation in a timely manner, reports directed to this area that do not
relate to current listings that may be fraudulent (including reports of
listing policy breaches and reports about items that may be prohibited)
will not be forwarded to another department or answered. If you have any
other questions or concerns, please click 'Contact Us' on any eBay Help
page.

We appreciate the time you took to contact us. To promote a safe
trading environment for the eBay community, we prohibit users from
engaging in any type of unlawful activity on the eBay web site and are
dedicated to investigating such situations.

**Please do not respond to this email as your reply will not be
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Regards,

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LOL How long have you been dealing with eBay?

I have 100's of similar emails from eBay and the guy has done nothing wrong yet, looking like a fraud is not a crime as far a eBay is concerned.

If you reported him for the wrong reason eBay will take no action whatsoever even if he is blatently breaking other rules.

In this case there are NO ACTUAL ITEMS FOR SALE and you'd have to be really stupid to think there is. You are bidding on a list of places you might be able to pick up cheap items thats all.

jor el

I just clicked one of his DSi links for the craic, and he's already sold 11 of them. That's 600 euro for doing nothing. Great scam, but everyone who has bought one of these is an idiot.

I especially like the bit that says
"irish tax and customs bailiff sale last day", but there's 3 days left in the auction.

ttm

Yep obvious scam and I think that there is a good chance that if it is reported correctly and picked up by someone at the eBay end who gives a toss it will get pulled.

Only reason eBay may pull the listings is that it is not clear what is for sale, even though its obvious to anyone who has seen this type of scam before.

Edit> Note also that auction is active over the weekend when I have noticed no one seems to be on duty at eBay

Judgement Day

samsung 50" plasma tv with stand new in box - That's what it says - I'm buying and selling on eBay for 5 years and I understand that this guy is selling a samsung 50" plasma tv stand new in box - it is obviously too cheap but the small print about bailiffs is nothing do with it!

Incidentally, what is a DSi link?

Nobody is on duty at ebay -period - and mark my words the company is going to come unstuck soon if it doesn't clean up its act. I hardly trade there at all these days and I'm part of a growing minority.

ttm

Judgement Day wrote: »

samsung 50" plasma tv with stand new in box - That's what it says - I'm buying and selling on eBay for 5 years and I understand that this guy is selling a samsung 50" plasma tv stand new in box - it is obviously too cheap but the small print about bailiffs is nothing do with it!

Incidentally, what is a DSi link?

Nobody is on duty at ebay -period - and mark my words the company is going to come unstuck soon if it doesn't clean up its act. I hardly trade there at all these days and I'm part of a growing minority.

Nothing new here this SCAM has been going for years and I must have given up reporting similar ones a couple of years ago. eBay hasn't got any worse its just eBay and will always atrack this sort of "seller" sorry SCAMMER.

I've even discussed this type of scam with eBay reps and all they've said in the past is that it looks its a list thats for sale and whats my problem.

Once someone complains they havn't got their samsung 50" plasma tv with stand new in box things will change but thats a week or so off yet the way this sort of scam usually runs.

Nody

The auction is gone but was this not the standard "Where you can get it for 50 EUR auction for Police auction" set up which been going round for a few years?

jor el

Judgement Day wrote: »

Incidentally, what is a DSi link?

A Nintendo DSi, and a link is a link to an auction for a DSi. I was looking at all his auctions, and I just picked one randomly and checked out the number of sales there had been.

ttm

Was wrong . ebay seem to have cancelled all his auctions and www.goofbay.com doesn't show that he has sold any of the recent scam items which would indicate eBay cancelled all the auctions, still I would guess a few people will have paid and now be trying to get their money back.

Judgement Day

Yes, in fairness he was a fairly ham fisted scammer and anyone taken in by him would have to be really dim. That said, eBay are not half sharp enough at dealing with this sort of nonsense as they are far to busy putting further obstacles in the way of legitimate sellers.

rubadub

It is so badly done its like something out of southpark

Vick7

Well came back from the pub after watching the mighty united win and then picked myself up the bargain of a life time a 50" samsung plasma tv. YES!
Wait Stephen I think this is one of those times your being an idiot.
Googled it and found this thread so quickly got on paypal and cancelled the transaction.
If you type in tv his are first on the list would only get you if your an idiot but it's not like there's a shortage of those.
http://electronics.shop.ebay.ie/Televisions-/11071/i.html?_nkw=tv&_catref=1&_trksid=p3913.c0.m24
Can ebay not delete all his fony accounts he uses to get his feedback and ban his ip address would have went nuts if he got me.
Just in case someone googles this: Irish Tax and Customs Bailiffs Sales Ebay
Scam dublinclearancesale

Judgement Day

Just checked out your links and reported him to eBay again. They are absolutely crap when it comes to policing this sort of nonsense!! :mad: They are just too busy trying to figure out new ways of screwing the maximum they can from legitimate selllers. :mad::mad:

ttm

Vick7 wrote: »

Well came back from the pub after watching the mighty united win and then picked myself up the bargain of a life time a 50" samsung plasma tv. YES!
Wait Stephen I think this is one of those times your being an idiot.
Googled it and found this thread so quickly got on paypal and cancelled the transaction.
If you type in tv his are first on the list would only get you if your an idiot but it's not like there's a shortage of those.
http://electronics.shop.ebay.ie/Televisions-/11071/i.html?_nkw=tv&_catref=1&_trksid=p3913.c0.m24
Can ebay not delete all his fony accounts he uses to get his feedback and ban his ip address would have went nuts if he got me.
Just in case someone googles this: Irish Tax and Customs Bailiffs Sales Ebay
Scam dublinclearancesale

Thanks for the heads up but can you run that past me again as there is something about your story that doesn't add up.

.. quickly got on paypal and cancelled the transaction.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

This is fantastic, i love this stuff!! its soooo obvious! some people have balls bigtime.

Hope he gets nailed.

di2772

Jesus, i didnt know there were scams like this going.
Im not going to ever buy from ebay again after seeing this.

Vick7

ttm wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up but can you run that past me again as there is something about your story that doesn't add up.

Not to complicated just went to paypal and logged into my account and cancelled the transaction before it went through. Sounds like you don't believe me like I am trying to cover being scammed or something. I have no problem admitting I was stupid enough to buy a 50" tv for €54 but I was lucky enough to come to my senses and cancel it. Also I was drinking just before this purchase but was far from drunk honestly I can just be a little dim at times. Anyways here's my paypal transaction.

I removed it just in case.

Also check this out different name different location same guy. Read his neg feedback some pissed people.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/samsung-50-pla...d=p3286.c0.m14
Definately the same guy both use the same fony feedback accounts.
Hate that this is being left up I know it's gonna get some people.

ttm

No didn't believe you as most scammers are not that stupid and you can't normally get your money back as the transaction goes through immedeatly so you are then stuck with PayPals proceedures :mad:.

So either there was something wrong with the sellers account or perhaps PayPal had done something to the account .

As I said didn't add up hence the "challenge"

btw suggest you edit your email/paypay details from your post, might help save another scam

Vick7

ttm wrote: »

No didn't believe you as most scammers are not that stupid and you can't normally get your money back as the transaction goes through immedeatly so you are then stuck with PayPals proceedures :mad:.

So either there was something wrong with the sellers account or perhaps PayPal had done something to the account .

As I said didn't add up hence the "challenge"

btw suggest you edit your email/paypay details from your post, might help save another scam

Yeah I realize I was lucky also that is his email not mine so feel free to fire at will.

ttm

Vick7 wrote: »

Yeah I realize I was lucky also that is his email not mine so feel free to fire at will.

My fault this time for not reading and understanding fully first time around.

btw if you take it to its logical conclusion as I have in the past (just gave up in the end) all those accounts that gave the seller feedback which are obviously all conected should also be banned.

Also afaik ebay have no method of IP blocking - I've suggested it enough times :mad:

jor el

di2772 wrote: »

Jesus, i didnt know there were scams like this going.
Im not going to ever buy from ebay again after seeing this.

No need to go that far. Just don't buy something that looks too good to be true, because it will be a scam. A 50" TV for €54 is something that nobody in their right mind could believe is genuine. You couldn't even get the postage for that price, let alone the TV.

ttm

jor el wrote: »

No need to go that far. Just don't buy something that looks too good to be true, because it will be a scam. A 50" TV for €54 is something that nobody in their right mind could believe is genuine. You couldn't even get the postage for that price, let alone the TV.

Was it just me that saw a degree of irony in di2772's post?

jor el

ttm wrote: »

Was it just me that saw a degree of irony in di2772's post?

My irony meter is broken, so you could be right.

kippy

di2772 wrote: »

Jesus, i didnt know there were scams like this going.
Im not going to ever buy from ebay again after seeing this.

You dont really buy from Ebay.........
Buyer beware etc.....
Too good to be true etc......

Edit, Completely missed that.

I would call it more sarcasm than irony.........or perhaps even innocence?

Judgement Day

Guess what, the TV scammer is no longer an eBay seller as of this morning.

ttm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Guess what, the TV scammer is no longer an eBay seller as of this morning.

The power of NEGATIVE press

Edit > BUT Did you notice the feedback is now set to private, so either he wants to protect the 60 accounts that gave him feedback so we can't see them or eBay doesn't want us to know if they have delisted those accounts which belong to the same scammer. Either way a classic eBay COVER UP

ttm

Also noticed that all the previous autions of dublinclearancesale seem to have been cancelled. You can follow them up from goofbay the previous sales were all within that last month so should be available. So there's one cover up by eBay, user is delisted (they might have pulled out if they had a problem with there PayPal not set up correctly RE:Vick7's experience) but they keep all the positive feedback. So how come a total scammer can still leave an account set to private feedback with 100% positive feedback, auctions all cancelled and still to anyone not watching whats going on reflect well on eBay with 100% positive feedback. The systems rigged wonder how that happened :P

Vick7

Well got an email from ebay this mourning

[font=verdana, sans-serif]eBay sent this message to *****(***********).
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[font=Arial, Verdana]Dear ************ (*************************),

We're writing to let you know that the listing for the following item you bid on has been removed:

320415120669 - samsung 50" plasma tv television

We strongly recommend that you do not complete this purchase. Purchases of items listed on eBay but then completed outside of eBay are extremely risky. They are not covered by eBay buyer protection programs and are highly susceptible to fraud.

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ttm

Read the PayPal dispute proceedure carefully. If you hadn't got your money back straight away the seller would have moved the funds and left nothing in his PayPal account to pay you back with. Even if he wasn't that quick he'd still have 10 days before you could file a dispute, unless I'm reading that wrong?

Vick7

When a scammer comes along like this is it not possible to commit to buy an item and not pay obviously and leave feedback warning people.

ttm

Vick7 wrote: »

When a scammer comes along like this is it not possible to commit to buy an item and not pay obviously and leave feedback warning people.

No as you have to use an account that can leave feedback straight away and new users afaik can't do that. Obviously you don't use your normal buying/selling account as you don't want hassel from eBay.

Edit> I used to bid with several eBay ID's similar to spot_the_scam and looks_like_a_scam and when you could see the other biders names on a standard auction that tended to warn people off, sometimes the scammer would shill bid with another of his own accouts but in the end I got away with it as the seller always got banned before I had to pay up (not that I evan had a PayPal account associated with any of those accounts).

patt1616

Hello I got had for €54 last saturday night with the "Toshiba Satellite Laptop4GB RAM DVD RW +webcam+Vista, I paid by paypal got an email from ebay Saturday morning to tell me not to pay for the item (too late), I cannot give feedback because ebay had removed the listing. When I claimed frm Paypal the seller told them the item was intangable so it was not covered for a refund. Anyone any ideas

ttm

patt1616 wrote: »

Hello I got had for €54 last saturday night with the "Toshiba Satellite Laptop4GB RAM DVD RW +webcam+Vista, I paid by paypal got an email from ebay Saturday morning to tell me not to pay for the item (too late), I cannot give feedback because ebay had removed the listing. When I claimed frm Paypal the seller told them the item was intangable so it was not covered for a refund. Anyone any ideas

The normal reason PayPal don't pay out is because the seller has cleaned out his account and there is no money to refund. afaik neither eBay or PayPal will pay out themsleves in this sort of case. However I would still chase them on the "item was intangable" as that does sound like bullsh1t at the very least I'd want to follow that up and ask them where it says that in there writen terms and conditions also complain on the basis that eBay allowed the listing of an intangable item and did nothing to stop the auction in a timely manner even though the seller had been reported. Lets face it the €54 wasn't very intangable.

But to be honest don't expect to see your money again, if it was me I'd be chasing eBay and PayPall just to be as annoying to them as possible.

btw was this the same seller dublinclearancesale ?

jor el

The seller will claim they were selling information, not actual goods, and information is intangible. Paypal will only intervene with tangible goods, and not services (like information), which is why you got that response.

As ttm said, the seller has more than likely cleaned out his account anyway, so there's no money to refund.

Your only option is to phone your credit card provider and ask for a charge back, that's if you used a credit card, and if they will allow this.

Did you really think you were going to get a Laptop for €54?

RasTa

I work in PayPal, it doesn't matter if the seller has cleaned out the money. If you buy something on ebay and pay though paypal you are fully covered no matter if it costs 1 million.

The issue with these things is the auction listing, it has to be tangible. If it states in the auction that you are getting a wholesale list which it normally does then you aren't covered as the seller advertised correctly.

Loads of people fall for this scam because they don't fully read the listing.

patt1616

Its me back again, you see the buyer is at a complete disadvantage when Ebay remove the listing even though Ebay say that you should communicate through Ebay this facility is removed by Ebay when they remove the listing. I would love to be able to go back and examine the listing, to see was I really a twit to fall for it. There were 71 other buyers at the time when I bought, so I wonder have Ebay supplied the "seller" with each of our names and addresses. The other strange thing is that Ebay think I bought multiple itemsfrom this seller...strange! I noticed as well that this seller was limiting his sale to Ireland only, maybe the law in the UK is better for this sort of thing, in which case, we would be all better to deal on Ebay.co.uk. I now find myself looking at the items on Ebay.ie and I wonder are they real or imaginary.

jor el

RasTa wrote: »

I work in PayPal, it doesn't matter if the seller has cleaned out the money. If you buy something on ebay and pay though paypal you are fully covered no matter if it costs 1 million.

I've seen plenty of cases where that didn't happen. eBay often states in the auction that the buyer "may" be eligable for protection "up to" some stated value. This value can be as low as £100. I've also seen cases where the seller has cleaned out the account, and Paypal didn't refund any money. I do not believe anyone if fully covered when using Paypal.

These scams are about selling trade lists, intangible information, but having read fully through a few of them, there is no mention of that in the auction. When they started out, they used to say in the small print that it was information only, but they've stopped doing this recently. eBay and Paypal still wash their hands of any responsibility, leaving the buyers out of pocket, unless they can do a charge back.

patt1616 wrote: »

Its me back again, you see the buyer is at a complete disadvantage when Ebay remove the listing even though Ebay say that you should communicate through Ebay this facility is removed by Ebay when they remove the listing.

Do a Google search for the auction, and see if it's in the cache. If you know the exact title used in the auction, you may be able to find it.

ttm

RasTa wrote: »

I work in PayPal, it doesn't matter if the seller has cleaned out the money. If you buy something on ebay and pay though paypal you are fully covered no matter if it costs 1 million.

The issue with these things is the auction listing, it has to be tangible. If it states in the auction that you are getting a wholesale list which it normally does then you aren't covered as the seller advertised correctly.

Loads of people fall for this scam because they don't fully read the listing.

As I'm sure you know that is only partly true!

13.7 How much coverage do I get with PayPal Buyer Protection?
If you see the eBay.co.uk or eBay.ie buyer protection message; or if you purchase an eligible item with PayPal Credit via your Account and PayPal also determines a Claim in your favour, PayPal will reimburse you the full purchase price of the item and original shipping costs only. For eBay listings in countries outside of the UK and/or Ireland, PayPal will re-imburse you for the full purchase price of the item and the original shipping costs, up to the coveraged cap specified in the applicable buyer protection message (provided that you are eligible for payment). The amount of coverage varies based on the currency and the country of the eBay website where the purchase was made. PayPal will not reimburse you for the shipping costs you incur to return a SNAD item to the seller or another party PayPal specifies. If the seller presents evidence that they delivered the goods to your address, PayPal may find in favour of the seller even if you did not receive the goods. See section 13.15 for other protection you may be entitled to. Alternatively, if you are a UK customer, you may wish to contact Consumer Direct (http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk) for advice on your consumer rights.

Above from User Agreement for PayPal™ Service

So if you have an ebay.ie account and buy in the UK or Ireland you are covered (provide you fullfill the other t & c's) however buy outside UK and Ireland and afaik the max you can get back is 1k. LOL spend 1000euros on eBay outside the country you'd have to be mad. Edit> Thats also dependent on the sellers status so best knock that down to 200euro max payout.:mad: <End Edit

There is always the tangibility argument? If delivery is free but the "list" never arrives is the "list" tangible or not?

In this particular sale afaik the word "list" was not used hinted at but didn't occur in the listing which of course we can't check as eBay has SWEPT IT UNDER THE CARPET as usual.

jor el

ttm wrote: »

In this particular sale afaik the word "list" was not used hinted at but didn't occur in the listing which of course we can't check as eBay has SWEPT IT UNDER THE CARPET as usual.

If you look at the seller's feedback page, you can see his 60 or so shill bidders are all still active too. What's the point in banning a scammer, if you're going to leave all his other accounts there for him to continue with? I often wonder if there's anyone in eBay with half a brain, or if anyone shows any sign of initiative and checks for shill buys in a scammers feedback? (Rhetorical question).

ttm

jor el wrote: »

If you look at the seller's feedback page, you can see his 60 or so shill bidders are all still active too. What's the point in banning a scammer, if you're going to leave all his other accounts there for him to continue with? I often wonder if there's anyone in eBay with half a brain, or if anyone shows any sign of initiative and checks for shill buys in a scammers feedback? (Rhetorical question).

Different seller? I was following dublinclearancesale (no longer a registered user) and you're link is for massclearance654 (also no longer a registered user). From memory the +feedback for massclearance654 came from differnt users so thats about 120 accounts ready to rock and role for more scamming. Also note both the above are members since 31-Mar-09

jor el

Given that they're both "clearance", I'd say they're the same person. Both sellers had the same stock photo of a warehouse in the auctions too.

Judgement Day

jor el wrote: »

If you look at the seller's feedback page, you can see his 60 or so shill bidders are all still active too. What's the point in banning a scammer, if you're going to leave all his other accounts there for him to continue with? I often wonder if there's anyone in eBay with half a brain, or if anyone shows any sign of initiative and checks for shill buys in a scammers feedback? (Rhetorical question).

Yes, I know it was a rhetorical question but it still deserves an answer. There is nobody in eBay with even half a brain and sooner, rather than later the wheels are going to come off this wagon.

RasTa

Ah your right, it's the seller's who now have expanded seller protection.

Anyway the listings are only gone because the ebay's account was suspended. If you don't get a refund then you didn't read the listing properly and it's your own fault imo. I personally think if someone is stupid enough to think they are getting a 50inch plasma for €54 then they deserve to lose the money.

Jesus I just checked the auction listing for this as we have access to listings that where removed and it says on the top in block capitals.

"PLEASE NOT THIS IS AN INFORMATION PRODUCT YOU ARE NOT BUYING A PHYSICAL ITEM, NO REFUNDS WILL BE GIVEN, PICTURES ARE FOR ILLUSTRATION ONLY. THIS PRODUCT WILL BE DIGITALLY DELIVERED BY EMAIL. WE DO NOT GIVE REFUNDS."

He made a nice bit of money out of this but this is the worst one I've seen and still 150+ people fell for it. He will be able to withdraw the funds in 6 months. I'd contact your credit card company if you fell for it. PayPal can't reverse the funds as he has listed everything correct in relation to our T&C's

jor el

RasTa wrote: »

I personally think if someone is stupid enough to think they are getting a 50inch plasma for €54 then they deserve to lose the money.

I've said that so many times now. €54 wouldn't even pay the delivery charge on a TV that size.

patt1616

Hello Our faker is back again with 9 items this time and to date has sold 336 but the price has dropped to 53.95 euro each. Have a look at cantersj52 or items 320420265992, 320420266013,320420265938, etc. I calculate that if he gets paid for them all he will have earned over 18 grand. Are we in the wrong business. I see he has collected one negative feedback according to goofbay and what are all the cd cases and according to goofbay and a strange thing...he has only sold one of each of the "items in his present list according to goofbay. I got a chance at last to examine the wording for the Toshiba Laptop, there is no mention of it being a list or an ebook, just the usual pictures of the item you think you are getting and the famous warehouse. Are'nt I lucky I was not as dopey tonight as the last time, I might have bought all 9 items off him.
I notice that sales of his Xbox360 are going badly. I also notice that a lot of his "buyers" have zero feedback, is this himself trying to boost sales.
Pat

ttm

Just take a look at cantersj52's feedback from his first 100 or so sales ROTFL. How many sellers have had a hundres or so sales in a row with EVERY buyer now no longer a registered user. Then take a look at the overall feedback and wonder why everyone buying from his has their feedback set to private.

Agreed same add and pics as before and as you say no mention of the "item" being a list, not that there aren't enough other signs of this being a scam.

Think I'll copy and past a list of all the stilll registered buyers and stick them in a word doc (links still work ) so I can see if any turn up later or get banned.

ttm

Another obvious point, if you have enough time on your hands to be bothered to look (and not already spotted something is wrong here ) you'll notice that cantersj52 is very quick at shipping, so quick infact he sells large "items" they arrive and he gets feedback all on the same day?

btw I wouldn't take too much notice of the number of items sold as being an indication of the total number of people scammed as I guess a lot of the buyers are shills to make the item look better, possibly a good reason to hide all his shill bidders feedback - notice a lot of his buyers have private feedback.

And yet another really dumb thing is the number of items available 176 xboxes who would sell that number so cheap?

BUT one recent buyer says "GOT THE XBOX TODAY MY SON LOVES IT , YOUR SO GREAT" which tries to enforce the idea in the buyers mind that the item is real and not a list.