Sad B*str*ds

TimAllen

niceonetom wrote: »

I'm calling BULLSHIT on that whole story. Tim, you're full of it. Prove me wrong.



If group cycling is illegal, which you seem to think, you should probaly ask the guards why they generously marshal various sportives and charity rides. Do you think the guards are out there facilitating lawlessness?


This thread is living up to its title .

I dont owe you any proof and I have received apologies from those concerned so I have let the matter go.

Your smug reply regarding garda marshalling actually proves my point on the issue but you were too full of your own self righteousness to realise it. If group cycling was the norm for acceptable road use then there would be absolutely no need for garda marchalling ... in fact the gardai marshall such charity events exactly because such road use is not ordinarily acceptable.
Gardai do the same for motor rallys which allows for ordinarily illegal use of the road to be "legal" while marshalled.

Oh and yes, I think your contribution fitted with the thread title

fenris

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055440585

"Cyclist crashed into my car" - first post

So thats where all of the cyclist hate and trolling came from!

DirkVoodoo

Noooo! Don't reply to him, he feeds on replies!

RobFowl

fenris wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055440585

"Cyclist crashed into my car" - first post

So thats where all of the cyclist hate and trolling came from!

To be fair that cyclist sounds like a right muppet

RobFowl

lukester wrote: »

I know it's Friday and all, but this thread is causing me to lose the will to live.










There, that's better.

That's my wife (she got an autograph as well) :rolleyes:

Raam

RobFowl wrote: »

That's my wife (she got an autograph as well) :rolleyes:

Cippo is your wife? :eek:

Edit: sorry, it's been a slow day on the board

Lumen

Custard test!

unionman

Olympic level trolling Tim. Now roll up and **** off.

Raam

unionman wrote: »

Olympic level trolling Tim. Now roll up and **** off.

Ah in fairness, NiceOneTom is incredibly selfrighteous. Have you ever stood behind him when he's ordering his mid-ride coffee in Laragh? "GIVE ME MY COFFEE NOW!"

RobFowl

RobFowl wrote: »

That's my wife bitch (he got an autograph as well) :rolleyes:

Fixed

petethedrummer

TimAllen wrote: »

I dont owe you any proof and I have received apologies from those concerned so I have let the matter go.

Your smug reply regarding garda marshalling actually proves my point on the issue but you were too full of your own self righteousness to realise it. If group cycling was the norm for acceptable road use then there would be absolutely no need for garda marchalling ... in fact the gardai marshall such charity events exactly because such road use is not ordinarily acceptable.
Gardai do the same for motor rallys which allows for ordinarily illegal use of the road to be "legal" while marshalled.

Oh and yes, I think your contribution fitted with the thread title

Tim, why won't you reply to my last post? I really would like to know the opinions of a non-cycling motorist on how a large group of cyclists is supposed to behave in response to following motor-vehicular traffic. Maybe as some other posters have said, you should post the video footage you have taken on youtube with an overdub of commentary, which would indicate any wrong doing. I have the relevant software, soundcards and an assortments of microphones, if you really would like to educate the cycling world. (Maybe not the entire world, but those of us on the boards cycling forum). And I offer here and now to assist at no cost to you.

Actually, what equipment are you using to take this footage? I myself have tried to take footage of other road users with a regular digital camera. But i felt this was impeding my ability to cycle and/or drive safely, depending on the vehicle. Better to have two hands on the wheel(or handlebars) than one, is what I say. My next move is to buy either the go pro wide or the vhold. This will allow me to take nice footage of every traffic infringement I see on my daily commute using the accompanying helmet mounts while keeping my hands on the wheel(or handlebars). Like yourself I hope to report these infringements to the relevant authorities, there by making the roads safer for everyone. Guys like you and me(someday) really are making the roads and indeed the world a better(and safer) place.

So thats 2 pieces of information I'd like, if you would be so kind:

1. how a large group of cyclists is supposed to respond to following traffic?
2. the equipment you are using to take clear footage of other road users while maintaining total control of one's vehicle?

Anyways the Sean Kelly tour is next weekend, I hope you will be there to take footage of any wrong doing. There maybe 1500+ people enjoying themselves and raising money for charity. Some of them keen cyclists, some of them keen cyclists and car users and some of them car users who occasionally enter charity cycles. They all really need to be reminded of what is really at stake here. Namely that following motor-vehicular traffic should not be impeded at any cost and cyclists really should or shouldn't tailgate, especially on a country road.

I await your response with baited breath.

petethedrummer

TimAllen wrote: »

I have let the matter go.

why did you bring the matter up on a public internet forum?

petethedrummer

TimAllen wrote: »

If group cycling was the norm for acceptable road use then there would be absolutely no need for garda marchalling ... in fact the gardai marshall such charity events exactly because such road use is not ordinarily acceptable.

There are many group cycling events without Garda mashalling. The ones I have been on include:
1. The tour of louth
2. The Dromara Sportive (though that was Northern Ireland so substitute Garda with RUC).
3. The 1st Swords Tour.
4. I don't belive the Wicklow 200 had Garda marshalls, I certainly didnt see any.
5. Same goes for the ring of Kerry. Though i may have been too busy deliberatley impeding traffic and charging into cars to exert my unfounded cycling rights to notice. I certainly did enjoy ruining all the motorists' day that eh day. (Is motorists' the correct grammar?).
6. The three club training spins I've been on with 30+ riders on them.

In fact I've never been involved in a group cycling activity that had Garda Mashalling, damn you Martin Early sportive participants!!!!!

Edit: Oh wait there was a Dublin city centre cycle that had garda marshalling. I do apologise. My previous statement was a lie.

Edit 2: There was also the tour of Cooley in north louth, I didn't participate, but it did pass my* house and it did not have Garda marshalling. Maybe we could compile a definitive list of Garda marshalled group cycling events because I may be wrong, but I recokon the vast majority of group cycling events do not employ Garda marshalling.

* this is also a lie, it is my parents house. I don't own a house. I maybe be in the will though, so eventually it may one day be 1/3** my house.

** I have two siblings.

petethedrummer

fenris wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055440585

"Cyclist crashed into my car" - first post

So thats where all of the cyclist hate and trolling came from!

In fairness to Tim, cycling into an inanimate object is way above running out of petrol on the stupidity scale.

0 being a bit stupid and 10 being very stupid.

DirkVoodoo

petethedrummer wrote: »

In fairness to Tim, cycling into an inanimate object is way above running out of petrol on the stupidity scale.

0 being a bit stupid and 10 being very stupid.

Maybe if he had his amazing camera pointed at the dashboard he might have seen the orange light come on.

Or maybe he is in fact Jeremy Clarkson (who often rides with a camera (ooh-err) and he was attempting another long distance drive on a single tank of fuel, only this time he didn't quite make it).

niceonetom

TimAllen wrote: »

I dont owe you any proof and I have received apologies from those concerned so I have let the matter go.

No, you haven't. You're crowing about it like a cock on the internet. If you had any proof you'd show it, I doubt you'd be reluctant to either, and any claims of magnanimity are ludicrous considering how you spent your Saturday night (trolling on the internet). I take your failure to substantiate your claims as confirmation that your video story is a fabrication and that you are sexually attracted to fish*.

TimAllen wrote: »

Your smug reply regarding garda marshalling actually proves my point on the issue but you were too full of your own self righteousness to realise it.

Dude: pro ject ion


Tim, answer Pete's first question.

You should probably get on to the gardai about the activities of the dozens of cycling clubs across Ireland who organise regular festivals of law breaking every weekend morning, and ask the gardai why they provide these clubs with so much support, when clubs request it. Indeed why the gardai have a cycling club of their own and how they behave on the road. I'd be interested to hear the response you get to your theory on how large groups of cyclists should comport themselves on the road.**

*ok, I've no proof for the second part - but it seems pretty likely, doesn't it?

Raam wrote: »

Ah in fairness, NiceOneTom is incredibly selfrighteous. Have you ever stood behind him when he's ordering his mid-ride coffee in Laragh? "GIVE ME MY COFFEE NOW!"

You should have seen me the day the ran out of plates. I. went. mental.

**edit:
Actually I'm pretty sure that a guard (if they're anything like the few I've met over the years) would tell you just about anything they think you want to hear in order to get you to go away, so I would't be surprised to have Tim return with some story of how he was talking to some guard and they agreed with him 100 percent. Such is our noble force. Or he could just start making stuff up again. Whatever.

Lumen

I'm Mario Cippolini, and so is my wife!

What's with the troll-fighting on Sunday? It's not even raining.

niceonetom

Lumen wrote: »

What's with the troll-fighting on Sunday? It's not even raining.

My bike is broken .

Raam

niceonetom wrote: »

My bike is broken .

You have 3! What's wrong with them?

niceonetom

Raam wrote: »

You have 3! What's wrong with them?

The hybrid doesn't count. The roadie has crank issues. I'll go out on the fixie later, but I wouldn't dare bring that on a boards Wicklow epic. Boring flatish stuff only.

What's your excuse for being indoors on a sunday morning? Huh? Huh?

And yours Lumen?

Raam

niceonetom wrote: »

The hybrid doesn't count. The roadie has crank issues. I'll go out on the fixie later, but I wouldn't dare bring that on a boards Wicklow epic. Boring flatish stuff only.

What's your excuse for being indoors on a sunday morning? Huh? Huh?

And yours Lumen?

I have a race at 12 in Oldtown Finishing me coffee before I head out.

niceonetom

Raam wrote: »

I have a race at 12 in Oldtown Finishing me coffee before I head out.

That's actually a pretty good excuse.

Good luck! and remember: single file and NO TAILGATING!!!

Raam

niceonetom wrote: »

That's actually a pretty good excuse.

Good luck! and remember: single file and NO TAILGATING!!!

I get told off for not tailgating close enough in races!

Lumen

niceonetom wrote: »

What's your excuse for being indoors on a sunday morning? Huh? Huh?

Minding sprogs, waiting for the skate park to open.

zzzzzzzz

TimAllen wrote: »

in fact the gardai marshall such charity events exactly because such road use is not ordinarily acceptable.
Gardai do the same for motor rallys which allows for ordinarily illegal use of the road to be "legal" while marshalled.

Tim - most bicycle races in this country are run without a garda escort - perfectly legally! You need to check your facts.

Gardai are informed of all race routes in advance (3 months in advance, I think) - do you think they'd allow these races to go ahead if the cyclists were breaking the law?

Húrin

googlehead wrote: »

Was out cycling last night when this twat, drove up in behind me and then braked hard trying to throw me off my bike, Then he looked over at his mate laughing, I swear If I caught up with him I would have put my foot in the side of his car.:mad:

How could he throw you off your bike if he slammed on the brakes when he was behind you?

Captain Havoc

Just come back from a morning of law breaking and I'm ashamed to admit to the following:

1. Riding three abreast
2. I crossed a solid white line
3. Not keeping a safe distance from the vehicle in front of me
4. Speeding, I did 54kph in a 50kph zone
5. Cycling on the wrong side of the road
6. Not slowing down at a roundabout
7. Not slowing down at a stop and a yield sign
8. Not slowing down at a pelican crossing

If I think of any other infractions I'll be sure to post them here! I obviously have no regard for the law and it's a pity they don't have penalty points for a cycling license. My insurance should be informed so I pay more next year. I can't understand why I did it, I've never seen a motorist do these things, it's only us cyclists (none of which ever drive cars because cars aren't Euro).

Raam

@jerseyeire: you should be ashamed of yourself! Go say 10 "Hail Cippolinis".

Chips Lovell

I´m going to do an entire spin on the wrong side of the road tomorrow.

Raam

el tonto wrote: »

I´m going to do an entire spin on the wrong side of the road tomorrow.

Are you in Spain again?