360 homebrew possibly closer then we think

weeder

welll, everyone including myself have been saying for a while that homebrew on current gen consoles(bar the wii) wont happen

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=690029

also from x-s homepage

Demo Video of Free60's New Homebrew JTAG Hack
>> xZool sent us this news and video:

I can confirm that the hack that was announced is fully working. This is a quick test setup but it clearly shows the console directly boots into Xell. Doesn't look too spectacular, but people who know what this means will know it is!

I used a Cygnos v2 sample i got (thanks!) and flashed the hack on the cygnos NAND. The original NAND was untouched. I can now boot either the hack or my NXE dash :-)
I opened a virgin box for that. No DVD hack, nothing. Just flashed it onto that Cygnos NAND and bingo...

my congratulations to all involved!

now anything worthwhile is probabaly way off but at least we do know that an xbmc360 may well be a possibility, then again it could be a dead end since ms already seem to have some sort of a lid on it and it could just be a bit of a dead end exploit

madmoe

I read that if you apply the latest dashboard update it will not enable you to use this hack.....

weeder

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=690360
snes9x running on xbox 360

madmoe

Very interesting news!!

animaX

Is it really worth modding the console (and possibly getting a live ban or even a brick) just to play emulators that you can play on pc anyway? I really don't see the point.

weeder

animaX wrote: »

Is it really worth modding the console (and possibly getting a live ban or even a brick) just to play emulators that you can play on pc anyway? I really don't see the point.

Well id hope for an eventual xbmc release, which is rumoured to have a team working on it

RangeR

animaX wrote: »

Is it really worth modding the console (and possibly getting a live ban or even a brick) just to play emulators that you can play on pc anyway? I really don't see the point.

Don't be fooled by the term "Homebrew". At least 90% of people who want their console modded is so they can play pirated games on it.

PSP has been hacked. Pirated gaming is rife on it.
Wii has been hacked. Pirated gaming is rife on it too.

animaX

yeah thats why I was mentioning live bans. Not worth it imo. You don't enjoy games as much when you pay nothing for them

weeder

RangeR wrote: »

Don't be fooled by the term "Homebrew". At least 90% of people who want their console modded is so they can play pirated games on it.

PSP has been hacked. Pirated gaming is rife on it.
Wii has been hacked. Pirated gaming is rife on it too.

speak for yourself, the only homebrew im really interested in is xbmc, the 360 was hacked for piracy a LONG time ago

Kinetic^

I'd be very interested in getting XBMC on to the Xbox 360, hopefully something comes out soon.

weeder

I'd say it would be a while but apparently theres a private team working on it

Heres the newest version of Xell running on a 360, with a Snes Emulator.

Whoops, Forgot link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd1g8igV6yA

KeRbDoG

cisk wrote: »

Whoops, Forgot link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd1g8igV6yA

This is making me want to get an old X360 Proper hacking instead of just that drive flashing lark

docentore

I've just added JTAG socket to my Xenon. I'll try to go ahead with it on Monday.

I will update this with pictures etc.

Can't wait till Monday

X360 Homebrew here I come!!!

Kinetic^

Nice, good luck with it!

docentore

docentore wrote: »

I've just added JTAG socket to my Xenon. I'll try to go ahead with it on Monday.

I will update this with pictures etc.

Can't wait till Monday

X360 Homebrew here I come!!!

Havnt got an old xenon yet, hope they release the Falcon Xell image soon and i can do it to my 360, HDMI output would rule:)


Did you make up the Cable yourself, did you add the 100oHm resistors?

Interested in knowing how you get on.

Cheers.

docentore

just finished (started on Friday with break for the weekend).

First I did the cable without the diode and 100ohm resistors. Spend whole friday on that (well at least 2 hours) - no luck. I couldn't connect at all!

Came back today with diode and 100ohm resistors. Installed resistors, left the diode alone for the moment. But I used different pc. Previous was a Dell D610, this one was Dell Inspiron 4000 (old P3). worked like a charm! Dumped my nand three times, I was always getting error 250 on the same block, but after reading on x-scene and xbox-hacker that was fine. Also my dumps where different in 1 or 2 places. Anyway if the dumps are wrong I'll be left with homebrew console only.

Didn't have chance to boot linux yet as I don't have any spare drive (if anyone has one I can buy it off you) but I've got to bootloader

here are few pictures:

soldering from cat5e cable (I know my soldering could be better but it was checked 3 times with m-meter):


dumping nand:


Success!!!

madmoe

Well done man!

docentore

I managed to extract dvd key out of it. Tomorrow I'm going to boot Gentoo

Kinetic^

How did you get on with Gentoo?

docentore

Success! I dare to say that this is FIRST post on boards.ie written on Xbox 360

Kinetic^

Nice man, congrats!

madmoe

docentore wrote: »

Success! I dare to say that this is FIRST post on boards.ie written on Xbox 360

So, were u using a browser in Linux running on the 360 to do it man?

Cheers,
M

docentore

Sorry, it was to late yesterday to post pictures, I'd just posted that message from the Xbox.

Here are two more pictures. It was hard to find and open a browser in Gentoo, as the only linux distros I'm familiar with are Mint and Kubuntu. Problem lies in resolutions. The hacked nand image which is available right now is made to use either with Vga monitor using vga cable or hdtv using component cable. I don't have netither of them, but I managed to get something on screen as I'm using RGB Scart cable (it uses the same signal cables as vga and component). you can see on attached pictures what I'm talking about, but I did it.

Now waiting what new will come out of it. If anyone has any questions how to do the mod or anything - just ask! I might know the answer

My setup:


gentoo screen on Philips 32" crt TV:

bluemachaveli

Thats seriously cool man, well done!

docentore

thanks all for motivation.
I'll update the thread when anything new comes up.

craze7

Nice work man, keep it up!!!

Kinetic^

Just how functional is Gentoo on it and is it the only distro that works?

docentore

Gentoo X360 distro was made in King Kong exploit so its two years old. There was no update since. I can't test it thoroughly because of the reasons mentioned above (lack of proper monitor)
I managed to open browser and that was it for me, I couldn't stand the resolution. I'm sure it is almost full functioning OS, but no sound as far as I know.
I've seen somewhere people running linux XBMC port on that, but there are some problems as far as I know. Also I've read about other distro working on that (ubuntu I think).

But all that is going to change now. This hack is accessible to all people without need of buying expensive chip with over 40 solder points. This can be done by someone handy enough in less than 2 hours for the cost of ~2euro. There is a new version on SNES emulator with sound and wireless controller support. I think in few weeks/months we will have plenty of emu's and other applications, like media players etc.

Imagine Wii emulator with Natal

madmoe

docentore wrote: »

Gentoo X360 distro was made in King Kong exploit so its two years old. There was no update since. I can't test it thoroughly because of the reasons mentioned above (lack of proper monitor)
I managed to open browser and that was it for me, I couldn't stand the resolution. I'm sure it is almost full functioning OS, but no sound as far as I know.
I've seen somewhere people running linux XBMC port on that, but there are some problems as far as I know. Also I've read about other distro working on that (ubuntu I think).

But all that is going to change now. This hack is accessible to all people without need of buying expensive chip with over 40 solder points. This can be done by someone handy enough in less than 2 hours for the cost of ~2euro. There is a new version on SNES emulator with sound and wireless controller support. I think in few weeks/months we will have plenty of emu's and other applications, like media players etc.

Imagine Wii emulator with Natal

WOW....class stuff man!

docentore

spent all todays morning playing in Super Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat 2. Superb

Nick_oliveri

Hmmmm, I wonder what barriers there are to accessing the higher resolutions!
Your images, specifically the one of your post on the 32inchcrt remind me of loading a primitive browser on the old xbox.

Except my xbox came pre-modded to my door, and the 640 x was the highest I could get out of it! :P Good work getting there man, you've got balls - I like balls! Time to invest in a flatscreen for yourself! When and if XBMC(HD) comes out for that yer gonna want one.

docentore

I would do that looong time ago, you know 50" LED screen etc, but my missus... well she wouldn't like the idea. I'm thinking of sabotaging the crt box

Nick_oliveri

docentore wrote: »

I would do that looong time ago, you know 50" LED screen etc, but my missus... well she wouldn't like the idea. I'm thinking of sabotaging the crt box

Ah fook the LED 50" man, get a cheapy 32-37"! There has to be back and forth in relationships, a line in the sand, a foot put down etc..
:pac:
No seriously, great work, I'm not a religious man but ill pray to the FSM that your 360 will stay healthy and bring you all of its modded glory! Can you Dual boot from the switch?

docentore

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

Ah fook the LED 50" man, get a cheapy 32-37"! There has to be back and forth in relationships, a line in the sand, a foot put down etc..
:pac:
No seriously, great work, I'm not a religious man but ill pray to the FSM that your 360 will stay healthy and bring you all of its modded glory! Can you Dual boot from the switch?

I dont have Cygnos chip for dual boot. And I don't need it. I have another 360 for games, which I'm not going to mod for the moment.

If the modded one breaks I still have 3 or 4 rrod'ed ones which I can fix and mod

madmoe

docentore wrote: »

If the modded one breaks I still have 3 or 4 rrod'ed ones which I can fix and mod

They must be breeding like rabbits in your gaff man

nbrady20009

animaX wrote: »

Is it really worth modding the console (and possibly getting a live ban or even a brick) just to play emulators that you can play on pc anyway? I really don't see the point.

Yea i would think that it isnt worth the risk getting banned, but very cool all the same, must be trickey to do

With this exploit Xbox live is out of the question altogether, the new dashboard kills the exploit and once you've updated it theres no going back.


This exploit opens the door to XBMC HD, Hombrew, possible Unofficial Dashboards, Add bigger hard drives boot games from the HD with no discs.

Very much like the original xbox which was fully hacked.

docentore

nbrady20009 wrote: »

Yea i would think that it isnt worth the risk getting banned, but very cool all the same, must be trickey to do

Let me answer you in couple points:
1. I have two consoles, one for this hack, second for gaming, actually three. Third is original xbox with XBMC (to tell you the truth I have around 10 original and 360 Xbox's, mostly broken, but all can be fixed if needed).
2. I don't use live, even if I would the console can be unbanned with a little bit of effort using this hack.
3. As cisk mentioned this is about Homebrew, not only emulators.
...
4. I like to know and I'm happy to see that I can!

Tomorrow I will update with few new things (I missed one of the bin releases)

docentore

Flashed with new Xell, screen looks much better on my crt.

There is Sega megadrive emulator released, but I didn't have chance to have a look at it as I'm busy with fixing my new baby - DreamX :D:D:D:D

Hangover

Might be worth picking up a cheap RROD'd 360 that i can play with, i'm pretty happy with my 8 xbox's but some more grunt wouldnt go astray.

docentore

8? eight?? EIGHT???

oh well, to be honest I have probably same, maybe one less

Hangover

docentore wrote: »

8? eight?? EIGHT???

oh well, to be honest I have probably same, maybe one less

Well 2 that are used regularly ,1 that i have modded for my sister in law, 1 brand new never used crystal edition and 5 in various states of disrepair- oops, thats 9 . If i can pick them up for $10-$15 south pacific pesos then i will keep collecting.

witnessmenow

I think im on 9 myself!

1 in my living room, I've given 1 to my girlfriend (its still mine though :P), 1 that my uncle has a loan of. And then 6 spare ones in my room.

I should have a tenth but after unfortunate accident this summer it is in the bottom of Lough Ree , had a 500gb hd in it and all.



I have to check are any of my 360s suitable for this mod, wouldnt mind playing around with it.

ShooterSF

Anyone able to point me to a plain english step by step guide? I had a broken 360 lying around and replaced it with an elite. Finally got round to trying to repair it and succeeded. I figured I'd flash the drive while I had it open and it's still open. It has the old board that I need (from what I've read).
I'm pretty competent with computers, studied software development and have built a few pcs in my time but have never soldered or chipped a console. Any idea where I could start?

docentore

hi,

start from modding as in this post

also read the whole thread from beginning. I did my mod after reading it.

ShooterSF

docentore wrote: »

hi,

start from modding as in this post

also read the whole thread from beginning. I did my mod after reading it.

Thanks docentore. Sounds fun. Does anyone else find with these things that the major enjoyment is in the project rather than the finished article?

docentore

ShooterSF wrote: »

Thanks docentore. Sounds fun. Does anyone else find with these things that the major enjoyment is in the project rather than the finished article?

yeah, I know what you mean. But there is always something new to do. Tider interface, usb interace based on PIC chip, etc.

docentore

first video player running on xell is out. Havent try it yet, just read about it on x-s. No sound and bad video quality - but hey, it has to start somehow.