Why Exercise Won't Make You Thin....

Ponster

A very interesting article from Time which I thought some people here may be interested in...

Linky

Basically is discusses how up until the 1970's doctors never recommended exercise for those who wanted to lose weight and talks about studies which suggest that while exercising will help keep you fit and keep you toned, it has little impact on body fat which is 100% down to what and how you eat.

topper75

Another magazine sacrifices its integrity on the alter of commercialism. Anything goes nowadays for circulation boost from the cluttered newsstand. Bye bye Time.

d'Oracle

topper75 wrote: »

Another magazine sacrifices its integrity on the alter of commercialism. Anything goes nowadays for circulation boost from the cluttered newsstand. Bye bye Time.

With resepect, I think your dramatics are a bit unfounded.

Its a magazine, its not claiming to be the absolute truth.
Infact Time is like a big opinion and analysis section.

I like the adage anyone who makes up their mind based on one persons opinion is a fool. The article expresses one persons opinion.

Also it is nothing new to suggest that fat loss is primarily down to diet.
The author is expressing an opinion that its all down to diet, which is not entirely without merit.
It just glosses over the fact that its much better to do it through a combined approach.

topper75

d'Oracle wrote: »

With resepect, I think your dramatics are a bit unfounded.

Its a magazine, its not claiming to be the absolute truth.
Infact Time is like a big opinion and analysis section.

I like the adage anyone who makes up their mind based on one persons opinion is a fool. The article expresses one persons opinion.

Also it is nothing new to suggest that fat loss is primarily down to diet.
The author is expressing an opinion that its all down to diet, which is not entirely without merit.
It just glosses over the fact that its much better to do it through a combined approach.

What are you on about here accusing me of dramatics? have you read it? it is a joke of a study - you don't have to be a scientist to realise that. I like any publications I buy to contain the truth. Am I asking too much with that? They went with sensationalism for sales purposes.

d'Oracle

topper75 wrote: »

What are you on about here accusing me of dramatics? have you read it? it is a joke of a study - you don't have to be a scientist to realise that. I like any publications I buy to contain the truth. Am I asking too much with that? They went with sensationalism for sales purposes.

Woah.

Chill.
You used the phrase "sacrifices its integrity on the alter of commercialism"
Thats pretty dramatic, don't you think?

Then there is the fact that its not a study. Its an article, based on a number of studies.
The fundamental point put forward is that exercise for fat loss will be useless if your diet is cack. Which is right and needs to be said more often.

There are plenty of flaws in there, but as I said, anyone who decides to stop exercising as a result of one opinion is a fool.

There is plenty of truth in there and some fallacy too.
Personally one flawed article will not put me off Time magazine.

rubadub

People don't know how to calcuate the fuel they need, nothing new there.

In short, it's what you eat, not how hard you try to work it off, that matters more in losing weight. You should exercise to improve your health, but be warned: fiery spurts of vigorous exercise could lead to weight gain. I love how exercise makes me feel, but tomorrow I might skip the VersaClimber — and skip the blueberry bar that is my usual postexercise reward.

Should really read "fiery spurts of vigorous exercise could lead to hunger"

They are skipping B and going straight from A to C just to get an eye catching headline.

brianthebard

Is the article suggesting that before the 1970s doctors knew more about nutrition than now?

d'Oracle

rubadub wrote: »

People don't know how to calcuate the fuel they need, nothing new there.


Should really read "fiery spurts of vigorous exercise could lead to hunger"

They are skipping B and going straight from A to C just to get an eye catching headline.

You are right.
Its not well researched and the conclusions drawn are of John Waters level fukwittery. In fact some of it reads like the worst, most pathetic excuse making you would ever see.
It shows a lack of understanding or even logical capacity.

d'Oracle

brianthebard wrote: »

Is the article suggesting that before the 1970s doctors knew more about nutrition than now?

Way to deal with that is tell the author that Asians have been exercising for health for 100s of years.

She would burn her laptop in protest against herself.

justsomebloke

d'Oracle wrote: »

Woah.

Chill.
You used the phrase "sacrifices its integrity on the alter of commercialism"
Thats pretty dramatic, don't you think?

It may be dramatic but quite true

d'Oracle wrote: »

Then there is the fact that its not a study. Its an article, based on a number of studies.
The fundamental point put forward is that exercise for fat loss will be useless if your diet is cack. Which is right and needs to be said more often.

actually no the author of the piece blames exercise and not diet, although he says people eating more as a result of exercise is why they don't see results the piece sets exercise as the bad guy and not the lack of education and motivation these people actually have, which is the true problem.

As for the rest of the article it is just sensationalist drivel with misplaced studies to help the author try and sell a point

brianthebard

lol just read the first few paragraphs,they haven't changed their routine in years and eat crap but wonsers why their body hasn't changed for the better? ridiculous fluff piece.

d'Oracle

Joe the Santa wrote: »

actually no the author of the piece blames exercise and not diet, although he says people eating more as a result of exercise is why they don't see results the piece sets exercise as the bad guy and not the lack of education and motivation these people actually have, which is the true problem.

As for the rest of the article it is just sensationalist drivel with misplaced studies to help the author try and sell a point

I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make.

TommyKnocker

Hi There

Just wait untill you get to page 2 and you read the old adage of turning fat into muscle.

That one sentence alone tells you all you need to know about the authors knowledge on the subject.

Best Regards,

M

justsomebloke

sorry was trying to do 2 things at the one time

you said

d'Oracle wrote: »

The fundamental point put forward is that exercise for fat loss will be useless if your diet is cack.

this isn't actually the point the author is trying to put across. He is trying to vilify exercise. Yes he says the actual reason people don't reap the rewards of the exercise is by allowing them selves to eat more afterwards as they find themselves hungrier and think they should eat more. But rather then blaming education and self discipline for this he is trying to lay the blame at the door of exercise.

d'Oracle

Joe the Santa wrote: »

sorry was trying to do 2 things at the one time

you said



this isn't actually the point the author is trying to put across. He is trying to vilify exercise. Yes he says the actual reason people don't reap the rewards of the exercise is by allowing them selves to eat more afterwards as they find themselves hungrier and think they should eat more. But rather then blaming education and self discipline for this he is trying to lay the blame at the door of exercise.

Point taken.

I suppose I was taking my own end out of it.
As I say, it is rather much the charlatans article, but if you are an optimist, you might say it could get people off the idea that exercise is the only way to get rid of fat.

Like the people who think they can eat crap and exercise it all off.

topper75

d'Oracle wrote: »

Like the people who think they can eat crap and exercise it all off.

Hold on! :P You CAN process the crap* with ENOUGH exercise. You have to put in the time. I do it.

Rewarding a half hour lap of 4 or 5 gym machines with a fastfood pigout probably won't balance out in your favour though. Common sense like.

*might not go on your belly, but will stick in your arteries

rubadub

topper75 wrote: »

Common sense like.

Common sense is not very common...