King of Queens

JONJO THE MISER

Was watching a marathon of this today, must be one of my Favouite tv shows ever:D

rotinaj

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Was watching a marathon of this today, must be one of my Favouite tv shows ever:D

Dam! Missed this. Great show.

Basq

It's a very well-written show made even better with the performances of Kevin James, Arthur Stiller and Patton Oswalt.

MagicMarker

Brilliant show! Kevin James is just awesome!

And ya definitely would!

scanlas

Best sitcom of all time...and none are even close to it considering it spans nine years of pure consistent gold.

foxy06

Like this show but prefer two and a half men

Actually we should have a poll....Two and a half men, King of Queens, Everybody loves Raymond ect ect.

herbieflowers

Surely these posts are tongue-in-cheek, KOQ is quite possibly the worst thing I've ever seen on television.

PinkTulips

the first couple of series are good but it got strained and old towards the end.

WithCheesePlease

herbieflowers wrote: »

Surely these posts are tongue-in-cheek, KOQ is quite possibly the worst thing I've ever seen on television.

You beat me to it - such an awful, awful show. That and Everybody Loves Raymond. Just sooooooooo bad.

Redzer7

Love It
It Always Seems To Make Me Feel Hungry Though

ronnie3585

I love King of Queens. Gerry Stiller is my favourite, although he plays a role very similar to that of Frank Costanza I think he's brilliant.

Sids Not

Excellent show, best yank comedy since Friends and early Scrubs

Mr.Nice Guy

I like it too. It's not the greatest sitcom ever but the characters are likeable and there are some very funny moments.

Havermeyer

scanlas wrote: »

Best sitcom of all time...and none are even close to it considering it spans nine years of pure consistent gold.

You should seriously watch some more TV.

It's not even close to the best sitcom ever.

Jokes and punchlines can be seen a mile away. Two and a half men/Seinfeld, etc etc, is/was written far better. King of Queens just seems a little lazy, imo. And the main character is just annoying. He is quite the over actor.

krudler

Not even near the best sitcom ever, it isnt fit to lick Seinfelds boots, by the numbers american sitcom

Borneo Fnctn

herbieflowers wrote: »

Surely these posts are tongue-in-cheek, KOQ is quite possibly the worst thing I've ever seen on television.

+1. I thought this thread was a big joke on me and everybody was in on it.

scanlas wrote:

Best sitcom of all time...and none are even close to it considering it spans nine years of pure consistent gold.

Are you serious? It's more like the worst sitcom of all time considering it spans nine years without a single good episode.

JonathanAnon

Before I say anything I HATE.. Everybody Loves Raymond, Two And A Half Men, etc etc.. HATE them with a passion. cos they all seem to be lumped into the one basket with KOQ

I think KOQ is great. Kevin James, Leah Remini, Jerry Stiller, and even Lou Ferigno.... great cast. Love the episode where they have the voice recognition software...

Basq

Jaysus lads..

People are just expressing their opinion of a show.. try not to lambast them and their opinions too much.. they are entitled to them!

FWIW, I couldn't even lump in 'King of Queens' with 'Raymond' or 'Two and a Half Men' - KoQ is light and always watchable. The same can't be said for the latter!

zero19

I really fcukin hate everybody loves raymond... Maybe it's the name.

Do like two and a half men and king of queens though!

Sids Not

Thats the trouble with forums, people (especially the negative ones) get so passionate about their TV programmes that they lose all reason and cant help themselves....deep breath everyone...;)

Keano

I will put on KOQ if there is nothing else on. It can have its funny moments.

Mitch Connor

I can understand people saying there are better comedys (there are imo - Frasier and Seinfeld would be two i'd put above it immediately)

But, how could anyone use Two and a Half Men as an example of comedies that are better than it? It is an ok show, but no where near as good a comedy as some others - certainly not a show i'd be using as any kind of example, especially writing. It is basically just a series of jokes based on how cool Charlie is.

IMO Frasier is possibly the best sit-com of that time. Some absolutely classic stuff in it.

Morgans

I love the way King of Queens doesnt think it has to make sense, feels ok about leaving stories before they have been wrapped up, has no likeable characters, and doesnt contain any humour. That is my favourite bit about it. Proof that if anything is on long enough on the standard american TV channels, people will like it.

I personally think Everybody Loves Raymond is miles ahead of KOQ. Its not funny but at least its well-written with realistic characters and pleasant family viewing.

To compare either to the best of what is out there borders on the ridiculous.

WithCheesePlease

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I can understand people saying there are better comedys (there are imo - Frasier and Seinfeld would be two i'd put above it immediately)

But, how could anyone use Two and a Half Men as an example of comedies that are better than it? It is an ok show, but no where near as good a comedy as some others - certainly not a show i'd be using as any kind of example, especially writing. It is basically just a series of jokes based on how cool Charlie is.

I'd lump King of Queens, Two and a Half Men and Everybody Loves Raymond together cos they're all current, reasonably similar and on around the same time on comedy central.

I must say though that I had written Two and a Half Men off all along without ever watching it. But I gave it a proper watch a few months back and am hooked ever since! Not a patch on Seinfeld, Family Guy or whatever else I know, but I still get a good laugh off it. Enjoyable no-brainier tv.

King of Queens and Everybody Loves Raymond just irritate me though.

helimachoptor

King of Queens > 2.5 men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ELR

I hate ELR!!!!

leahyl

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I can understand people saying there are better comedys (there are imo - Frasier and Seinfeld would be two i'd put above it immediately)

But, how could anyone use Two and a Half Men as an example of comedies that are better than it? It is an ok show, but no where near as good a comedy as some others - certainly not a show i'd be using as any kind of example, especially writing. It is basically just a series of jokes based on how cool Charlie is.

IMO Frasier is possibly the best sit-com of that time. Some absolutely classic stuff in it.

Couldn't agree more with you about Frasier - that show is THE BEST sitcom ever IMO. The writing is just brilliant! Can't really say much about the others cos never watched them - just never appealed to me plus i hate Charlie Sheehan! Watched KOQ once or twice - it's ok but nowhere NEAR Frasier! I'm trying to get a hold of the box set at the moment so i can enjoy it whenever i want!:D

ronnie3585

leahyl wrote: »

plus i hate Charlie Sheehan!

Yeah, Charlie Sheehan looks like a right lazy b*stard.

Not trying to start a willy waving competition, but shows like Seinfeld and Curb are light years ahead of Frasier. Not that Fraiser isn't brilliant.

JonathanAnon

ronnie3585 wrote: »

Not trying to start a willy waving competition, but shows like Seinfeld and Curb are light years ahead of Frasier. Not that Fraiser isn't brilliant.

Are you that guy in the Tayto ad running around the pitch? Seinfeld better than Frasier, that's the bigger laugh than anything initiated by Jerry Seinfeld (or "sign-field" if you are Pat kenny.. :P ). the last few series of Frasier were not great however, the same jokes became very overused

I do think that a lot of the american comedy shows are based around a single character, and if you dont like that character you wont like the show. Ergo, I like Kelsey Grammar --> I like Frasier, I hate Charlie Sheen (particularly his nasal tones)--> I hate Two And A Half Men, I hate Ray Romano --> I hate Everybody Loves Raymond.

Even the episode of KoQ that featured Romano (him and Kevin James are good friends) I couldnt stand. Maybe that's why Friends was so successful, cos it didn depend on you liking one main character. If you hated one, you would still watch it for the others.

JonathanAnon

ronnie3585 wrote: »

Yeah, Charlie Sheehan looks like a right lazy b*stard.

Just looked this up.. LOL

leahyl

JonathanAnon wrote: »

the last few series of Frasier were not great however, the same jokes became very overused

Ya i agree with you there - for me the best character in Frasier was not Frasier (although he was excellent) but Niles - absolutely HILARIOUS! David Hyde Pierce won countless Emmys for that character and it was Niles infatuation with Daphne that was the funniest storyline in the show (and just him as a character in general) He was just class! But as soon as Daphne and Niles got together it did get a bit less funny - there were still however some classic episodes even after that point:)

Morgans

David Hyde Pearce for Frasier won as many Emmies as Brad Garrett for Everybody Loves Raymond.

Not sure emmies are a sound judgment as to comedy quality.

leahyl

Morgans wrote: »

David Hyde Pearce for Frasier won as many Emmies as Brad Garrett for Everybody Loves Raymond.

Not sure emmies are a sound judgment as to comedy quality.

I think you'll find that I at no point said that because he won a lot of emmys meant that Frasier is a better comedy than any of the others - i was merely stating a fact - he is a great actor and he won a lot of awards because he is a great actor - is that ok??:p

JONJO THE MISER

:mad: I cant believe people saying KOQ is bad, its one of the best tv shows ever, some people just dont have taste if they think two and a half men is good:D its nothing but a load of crap about some echotestical ass hole called charlie. Everybody loves raymond? please that is so manufactured, if you guys want to see real class ye cant beat carrie and doug and Arthur is just about the best tv charcter ever, thats why KOQ had 9 seasons becauuse people loved it.

niallo76

king of queens is a great programme,not as good as seinfeld or frasier,but nevertheless just funny-and gerry stiller and the great Patton Oswalt too

foxy06

Two and a half men is brilliant! Charlie is by no means the star of the show though. His mother and Alan are. V. funny stuff. I miss fraiser and seinfeld though.

120_Minutes

MagicMarker wrote: »

Brilliant show! Kevin James is just awesome!

And ya definitely would!

the only reason to watch it, even if she is a scientologist.



...and not everyone loves raymond.

Allison91

I really love King of Queens have a huge crush on Kevin James because of it,
never liked Two and a Half men probably because I can't stand Charlie Sheen.

Clanket

120_Minutes wrote: »

the only reason to watch it, even if she is a scientologist.



...and not everyone loves raymond.

Always reminds me of a frog for some reason.

Great show though

JonathanAnon

I love the way that Kevin James has no problem be self deprecating, something that isnt as common in American humour more so in Irish humour I would have thought. Like the episode where Carrie was playing host to the Japanese business visitors. When the head of the Japanese delegation met Doug, he noticed his size and said "aahhhhhhh, sumo wrestler?".. Doug responds " Nahhh, just fat". .

I think he's great. Unfortunately Mall Cop wasnt so good.

Eamo87

120_Minutes wrote: »

the only reason to watch it, even if she is a scientologist.



...and not everyone loves raymond.

Yep. She's the main reason i watch it.

PK2008

I like KOQ buts its defintely as unoriginal as Two and a Half men and everybody loves Raymond.

Its the typical dim-witted yet loveable everyman and his nagging wife scenario.

Pretty similar to just about every other US sitcom about couples/families: (The Simpsons, Love and Marriage, Everybody loves Raymond etc etc etc)

Same joke, different surnames

Verdict: Best of the current unoriginal bunch

zuutroy

Its impressive how Leah Remini turns into an absolute monster in the later seasons though. I would guess she almost doubled her starting weight at one point!

I always liked. Just a good laugh and knows its place and Kevin James is very good.

JonathanAnon

zuutroy wrote: »

Its impressive how Leah Remini turns into an absolute monster in the later seasons though. I would guess she almost doubled her starting weight at one point!

yeah she did after she had her baby. At the wrap party for one season, Kevin James was slagging her. He said "congratulations on Leah for FINALLY losing those last few pregnancy pounds. And you know what, she gave them to me".

it is frightnening to think that Brad Garrett and David Hyde Pearce could be even considered to be in the same category and has the same number of Emmys. If I was David, I dont know whether I would have accepted it.

Clanket

JonathanAnon wrote: »

it is frightnening to think that Brad Garrett and David Hyde Pearce could be even considered to be in the same category and has the same number of Emmys. If I was David, I dont know whether I would have accepted it.

In the same category as who? And why would he not accept it?

JonathanAnon

Alofthedunnes wrote: »

In the same category as who? And why would he not accept it?

Well I was kind of joking, but he was in the same category as Brad Garrett for the 56th Emmys


Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series

* David Hyde Pierce for playing Niles Crane on Frasier
o Peter Boyle for playing Frank Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond
o Brad Garrett for playing Robert Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond
o Sean Hayes for playing Jack McFarland on Will & Grace
o Jeffrey Tambor for playing George Bluth Sr. on Arrested Development

Hyde Pierce won that one, which was pretty good considering Frasier was really starting to take a nose dive around then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56th_Primetime_Emmy_Awards

Clanket

Ah, now I get ya

JonathanAnon

oh interesting piece of trivia. Megan Mullaly (Karen in Will and Grace) tried out for the lead role in KoQ.

Basq

JonathanAnon wrote: »

oh interesting piece of trivia. Megan Mullaly (Karen in Will and Grace) tried out for the lead role in KoQ.

She tried out for Kevin James part? Suprised she didn't get it - they could be twins!

JP Liz

I love KOQ especially Kevin James he is very funny as is Jerry Stilller (he could teach his son Ben a thing or two about comedy)

Shane10

I love this show, its so funny. Jerry Stiller cracks me up in it every time. one of the episodes where he tells the daughter that he lost her name in a poker game was gas. top comedy.

D.Q

Jerry Stiller takes KOQ from mediocre to great.

without him it wouldnt have the quality. the man is a legend.