Wtf happened to Kerrang!

Acacia

I was watching the tellybox the other day and seen an advert for 'Kerrang! 2009', the anuual compilation album. Well, my god, the stuff on it was as far removed from rock/metal as you can get. Metro Station was on it! Miley Cyrus' brother's band,ffs! Don't get me wrong, I admit to liking a few of their songs, but I really don't think they should be on Kerrang!

That's not snobbery, I just don't feel them or their ilk are Kerrang! material.

Than again, Kerrang!, Scuzz , etc have been going way too mainstream for a while now.

Would you guys watch these channels much, or read Kerrang!? Do you like how mainstream they've got, or would you like a return to the old days?

Shane St.

Its all rubbish. Only decent one these days is MTV2 and that still has a lot of muck on it

chin_grin

You're getting old therefore the kiddies like crap music. Tis the circle of life my friend.

(To be honest I also spotted the tracklist of this album..…facepalm!)

EDIT: Also stop watching those channels! Just use the likes of last.fm or myspace to get in to bands that you will actually listen to...or online radio stations...(I use a program called Radiosure, it's great! http://www.radiosure.com/)

Acacia

chin_grin wrote: »

You're getting old therefore the kiddies like crap music. Tis the circle of life my friend.

(To be honest I also spotted the tracklist of this album..…facepalm!)

Ah yeah, I've turned into one of those 'back in my day' moaners!:P

It's not that I think the music is crap per se, it's just definetely more pop than rock, and if you can hear it on all the other channels anyway, why out them on a channel that's meant to be for rock/metal?

nyarlothothep

nah its just crap. The middle ages were crap, the renaissance was better. Every so often you get a crap generation, decade, epoch or trend.

Max Power1

kerrang has been shite for as far as i remeber. Psuedo rock like blink 182, kings of leon , metrostation, good charlotte etc. Its "Rawk" for 12 -15 year olds imo

Het-Field

Karrang TV was one of the early things which cultivated my interest in Metal. The used actually play diverse SOAD, Metallica, Slayer, Satrycon etc.

Now its all Paramore, 30 Seconds to Mars, and MCR. Its not even worth watching anymore.

Schism

Kerrang and to a lesser extent Scuzz have been **** for years. The only thing worth watching is digital darkside on Scuzz.

Karl Hungus

Back when I was a wee nipper, I used to buy Kerrang! magazine, and even back then it was all weak 'flavor of the month' bands with some good stuff thrown in by accident.

jpm4

Kerrang has always been mainsteam. I haven't read it in years but it serves a purpose - getting kids into bands of a hard rock/metalish persausion. Then they might go on and listen to harder stuff or they may not.

Risteard

I lost what little faith I had in Kerrang when they listed Eminem as having the 40th greatest rock album of all time.

Seth Brundle

I haven't bought a metal mag in donkeys but way back then the likes of Metal Hammer was the only decent one available. Kerrang was a rock version of a pop mag!
Kerrang TV is just a modern version of the old mag!

ADTR

Kerrang has been crap for years.

Karl Hungus

kbannon wrote: »

I haven't bought a metal mag in donkeys but way back then the likes of Metal Hammer was the only decent one available. Kerrang was a rock version of a pop mag!
Kerrang TV is just a modern version of the old mag!

Metal Hammer the only decent one?

Terrorizer my friend, was always the best. Not just decent, but downright fantastic, lots of terrific articles detailing different subgenres of metal, their reviews were mostly spot-on and they covered a lot of underground and unsigned bands.

greendom

Classic Rock is the only music magazine I would consider buying. But at €11.90 for the latest issue I'm not bothering. Even though my favourite band are on the cover

Kess73

greendom wrote: »

Classic Rock is the only music magazine I would consider buying. But at €11.90 for the latest issue I'm not bothering. Even though my favourite band are on the cover

Would be the only music mag that I buy too, but I have to ask, where the hell did you see €11.90 being charged for the latest one? I have it here beside me and I paid €6.37 for it in Eason in Limerick.


Or was it one of the Prog specials you saw?

lord lucan

Back in the early 90's('90-'94) i bought kerrang weekly,still have a stack of them lying around somewhere. Every week it was Metallica/Maiden/Megadeth etc etc ie. proper metal!:P

Gave up buying it long ago,remember well being disgusted a few years back when i seen D12 on the cover!:eek:

RAW was pretty good as mags go,as was metal hammer and terroriser. Generally just buy classic rock now and tbh i don't watch either Kerrang or Scuzz unless it's an hour of classic stuff.

anonymous_joe

Kerrang the stations shíte.

MTV2's the only decent music station left and as has been said before, there's some awful dross on it.

Come back VH2!

mike65

I haven't bought Kerrang since 1991, okay I am 44....:o

Vanhalla

those scuzz and kerragn channels are a ****in joke. they hav alll these lists of like top 50 rock songs ever or whatever and they manage to put the same bands and usually the same songs in every single ****ing list. aaaagggggghhhhhhh. gun and roses, every time. give me a break

ride-the-spiral

All Kerrang do is take a list of the same songs they always play, arrange them in some order and call it some vague list hosted by some famous people. Seriously, every list they have has the same songs. I somehow doubt that the same collection of songs can be the greatest videos, of the greatest songs, by the greatest artists, from their greatest albums.

During Fall Out Boy's list of greatest whatever the fcuk, you could tell they didn't even like the songs that they "picked" because when Sweet Child of Mine was about to be played the guitarist said, "And here is one of the greatest riffs ever, after all metallica riffs, and pantera riffs, and black sabbath riffs..." and also later "Now at number whatever, where metallica should be, is Paramore".

The only time i've ever seen them play different stuff is when they had the 50 best metal artists once, and when they play the very newest videos. That's the only time i'll watch it.



The magazine and channel seem to be independant of each other, the magazine praises so many artists that are never on the channel. Mastodon won best video and i've never seen it on the damn station!

greendom

Kess73 wrote: »

Would be the only music mag that I buy too, but I have to ask, where the hell did you see €11.90 being charged for the latest one? I have it here beside me and I paid €6.37 for it in Eason in Limerick.


Or was it one of the Prog specials you saw?

Yes it was a Prog special with Rush featured

adox

I appeared in Kerrang back in the 80s with a few other Irish metal bands.

Guess its been on the slide since.:o

Seth Brundle

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Metal Hammer the only decent one?

Terrorizer my friend, was always the best. Not just decent, but downright fantastic, lots of terrific articles detailing different subgenres of metal, their reviews were mostly spot-on and they covered a lot of underground and unsigned bands.

This was back in the late 80s and very early 90s. Terrorizer started in 93 - around when I stopped buying metal mags

brendansmith

I remember one kerrang was doing that stupid best band etc of 1996 it probably was and it went as follows:


Best Band: Metallica
Best Guitarist: Kirk Hammet
Best Vocals: James Hetfield
Best Bassist: Jason Newsted
Best Drummer: Igor Cavelera

I thought that was very funny

Sephiroth_dude

I use to watch kerrang alot yrs ago but now anymore,theres just too much mainstream muck on it these days,Scuzz is the same although you still do get the occasional classic on it and sometimes a decent new video too,very rare though.

blastman

greendom wrote: »

Yes it was a Prog special with Rush featured

Just picked that up today, first time I'd seen one of the prog specials in the damn shop.

I grew up reading Kerrang, starting with issue 13. Eventually gave up on it not long after it went weekly. Classic Rock now is the magazine I remember Kerrang to be (and has a lot of the same journos!).

seachto7

I used to buy Rock Sound when it came out first, if not only for the free CD. The first year or so of that had some cracking bands on the CD sampler...
Lost touch with it then, and would buy the very odd time, again, just for the CD. You would usually find 1 or 2 decent bands on it.
Ones I came across and like as a result of it are Keith Caputo, Snowden, Unified Theory (former blind melon) and some Liberty 37 tracks..

mike65

adox wrote: »

I appeared in Kerrang back in the 80s with a few other Irish metal bands.

Guess its been on the slide since.:o

Well come on, name names. I still have all my copies from March 1985 to mid 1991

calex71

Havent bought mags in years, raw used be my favorite.

The tv channels where ok when they 1st came out, but have been sliding for at least 5 years ... or longer. Used to love headbangers ball and into the pitt after it. Hands up who's old enough to remember Noisy Mothers was the only place i got to see videos back in the mid 90's as we were too poor to get sky

Malice

Kerrang (the channel) and Kerrand (the magazine) have been poor for a few years now. Bring back Headbangers Ball and Vanessa Warwick I say!

peter1892

Bring back Mick Wall & Monsters of Rock on the original Sky channel!

ADTR

I used to buy Rock Sound magazine, which was way better than Kerrang.

seachto7

calex71 wrote: »

Havent bought mags in years, raw used be my favorite.

The tv channels where ok when they 1st came out, but have been sliding for at least 5 years ... or longer. Used to love headbangers ball and into the pitt after it. Hands up who's old enough to remember Noisy Mothers was the only place i got to see videos back in the mid 90's as we were too poor to get sky

was that with "Krusher"?

Anyone around Limk might remember a copied video tape doing the rounds in the early 90s. loads of stuff taped off headbangers ball. all classic thrash stuff. mate had it, and met a few more who had copies of it too...

DeadSkin

malice_ wrote: »

Kerrang (the channel) and Kerrand (the magazine) have been poor for a few years now. Bring back Headbangers Ball and Vanessa Warwick I say!

'twas a great show, but man was she dumb. Some of the interviews she tried to hold were cringe.

Malice

DeadSkin wrote: »

'twas a great show, but man was she dumb. Some of the interviews she tried to hold were cringe.

It has been years since I watched her interview anyone so you're most likely right .

Here she is interviewing a very young looking Pantera in 1992:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SoF3z-qXHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1eIzTfgerY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5m5Pvqtt7g

Otis Driftwood

The odd occasion I but a metal magazine its Terrorizer all the way but even they have been guilty of "flavour of the monthing" on occasion - Dragonforce on the cover once *cringes* but generally it is a brilliant publication.

The review section is factastic,the interviews always top notch and the monthly CD has exposed me to a huge amount of groups that I probably wouldnt have come across otherwise.

I used to buy Kerrang weekly but it started steadily going downhill with the advent of numetal.The had a 2 page spread on Insane Clown Pussies around this time with the 2 knob heads spouting about how great metal was and that their next album was going to have more guitars because "that sh1ts the sickest yo" Gimme a fackin break.

The only Metal tv show I watch is Headbangers Ball on MTV2 with Jamey Jasta from Hatebreed.

Metal is sorely under-represented in the media nowadays.The metal show with John Kenny on 2fm provided the soundtrack to my secondary school life as did the metal show that used to be on ITV at about 3.00 am on a Friday morning.

Now we have crap like Bullet for my Valentine in heavy rotation.

Sigh.

calex71

nedtheshed wrote: »

metal show that used to be on ITV at about 3.00 am on a Friday morning.


Sigh.

That was noisy mothers, with the legend Krusher , I knew i wasnt the only one who watched this

It was great , exposed me to bands like Kyuss and tonnes of others.
He used to have his dog with him if i recall.

John Kenny's show was ace as he gave some good airtime to irish metal.

DeadSkin

nedtheshed wrote: »

the metal show that used to be on ITV at about 3.00 am on a Friday morning.

Raw Power?


Will watch that later malice_

Otis Driftwood

calex71 wrote: »

That was noisy mothers, with the legend Krusher , I knew i wasnt the only one who watched this

It was great , exposed me to bands like Kyuss and tonnes of others.
He used to have his dog with him if i recall.

John Kenny's show was ace as he gave some good airtime to irish metal.

DeadSkin wrote: »

Raw Power?


Will watch that later malice_

You are both right.Started as Raw Power then changed to Noisy Mothers.

Here is Krusher's official site.

http://krusher.co.uk/

I lol'ed at the banner on the homepage.

"Jagermeister proud sponsers of Steve Krusher Joule"

A lone man sponsered by a highly potent alcohol.What a hero.

seachto7

I remember taping Raw Power, and going off to bed. watching it the following morning...

greendom

Shame Tommy Vance can't be brought back

Motley Crue

I remember when Scuzz was brave and used to chance playing Hanoi Rocks videos before they were shunned and now its all Bowling for Soup

the_syco

calex71 wrote: »

Used to love headbangers ball and into the pitt after it.

Used to watch it religously. An hour or two of that beats a week longbroadcast of Kerrang & Scuzz. I remember when Scuzz first came out, it had decent metal on, but now there's only emo f**king bull**** on it :mad:

bigbadcon

I was all excira getting Kerrang and Scuzz on my sky package after my dodgybox went and then when I turned it on I got the following in a row :eek:

Linkin Park
Eminem
That guy from "busted"s band.
Fall out boy


booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

bigeasyeah

I stopped buying kerrapp! years ago

Seth Brundle

Out of curioisty, there are loads of metal internet radio stations - are there any metal TV stations?

ADTR

bigbadcon wrote: »

That guy from "busted"s band.

Fightstar aren't too bad.

cedomination

ADTR wrote: »

Fightstar aren't too bad.

Yeah they get loads of slagging but when I actually sat down and listened to them they were pretty good.

ADTR

cedomination wrote: »

Yeah they get loads of slagging but when I actually sat down and listened to them they were pretty good.

Totally. They definitely aren't close to being my favourite band, but I can appreciate their music compared to Busted!

adox

mike65 wrote: »

Well come on, name names. I still have all my copies from March 1985 to mid 1991

I played drums in a band called Kruger. Kerrang did a special on some Irish bands, maybe a 2 page spread and we were one of them. We appeared on a compilation album called Green Metal:o so it may have been all tied into that.

Would love to know if you have a copy of it. I reckon it was possibly around 85/86. The album itself was really poor tbh. Our two tracks were from a very early demo recorded on an 8 track and the sound is brutal(not in a good way:D). Its possibly the worst recording we ever did but its the only one still about.

Found a small article from the Sunday World about it but nothing online from Kerrang:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=349077762&albumID=0&imageID=6240667