Renaming Zombie Survival - Chat

A lot of people have seemed lost at the idea of changing the name. It should be important to remember that from this forums creation it has been agreed that other Monsters will be discussed here.

It has also become apparent that renaming Zombie Survival will open up the possibility for these discussions more. It's just a rebranding, nothing more. You will still be able to discuss Zombies here.

Valmont

I think that the discussion of other "monsters" will bring more people here but I guess I'm afraid the forum will descend into a joke, if you know what I mean? I like the way we all take the zombie threat seriously, it makes the whole thing more enjoyable. Whatever the new name is, it should definitely contain the word 'zombie' lest we forget our humble beginning!

lostexpectation

zombies are special that why this forum was created afaik. the social satire and the mixing of real world places and events thats unique to zombies

yeah so allow other monsters to be discussed you don't need to change the name

smegmar

We all know there's no such thing as werewolf apocalypse. There really is no tactics or group strategy, it's just hide or run till sunrise. The same for vampires, you'll just get a bunch of emos who like drawing pictures of vampires.

There's something about the near destruction of society that only zombies can do, that makes it fun. When that is diluted with other "monsters" forums that don't take it seriously, it ruins the whole thing.

Micky Dolenz

I agree with all the above. Monsters is something you scare a three year old with.

Nearly all people here are into the actually surviving of the apocalyptic side of Z day, this, I belive is the true meaning of the forum and we shouldn't get too far away from it. The last thing I want is the forum turns into some kind of bad joke.

Valmont

Well then, based on that, maybe the renaming could be based around general end-of-the-world apocalypse scenarios? I would welcome some more apocalyptic threads that aren't necessarily z oriented. But sure if people want to discuss werewolves, I don't mind.

thebouldwhacker

I dont really post here but I do lurk, please dont change the name imo its the best forum name on boards and draws very entertaining posts. If the name gets diluted so do the posts. Besides other monsters are just that, some strange hairy half animal half nightmare makie upie carp where as Zombies.... well need I say more?

Say a loved one becomes a blood sucking vamp, worst case scenario you die quite a boring death, drained of your life blood... best case you become one and live forever wearing leather coats and trying not to get up too early.
But if a loved one becomes a Zombie, hell you gotta figure out why it happened! A voodoo curse, comet, virus? if you die it cos after a chase you get your head cracked open and have your brains sucked out if you live you have to come up with more and more interesting was off lobing off their heads! Also if the Zombie cause is an epidemic you get so many people in the country taken out every one gets to move into shopping malls...... endless fun:D

Please dont change the name... I'll post here more often to keep the numbers up (though after reading this rant ye may wish for me to return to lurking:o)

Zombie Survival Forever:)

Valmont

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

Please dont change the name... I'll post here more often to keep the numbers up (though after reading this rant ye may wish for me to return to lurking:o)

Zombie Survival Forever:)

Make a scenario!

Nerin

Until people stop being zombie fanboys and ruining other threads(yes,i've had to delete a number of posts) i'm pro boneys name change idea.

Also i don't think discussing other monsters will detract from the "serious" nature of discussion, the werewolf thread already proved that. The only people i've seen taking away from the "serious" aspect are the fanboys.

ScumLord

I think there should be a sub forum at least. Zombies are one thing, monsters and goblins are a completely different thing.

Nerin

ScumLord wrote: »

I think there should be a sub forum at least. Zombies are one thing, monsters and goblins are a completely different thing.

theres not enough traffic on the forum to warrant any split. and if there was to be a split, zombies would be the subforum with the more general forum on top. id hate to see that, i think thatd lessen our traffic.

lostexpectation

if you change that name then are you going to move it to scifi and fantasy

Nerin

lostexpectation wrote: »

if you change that name then are you going to move it to scifi

No.
And if you thought that would you not logically think horror?

Kromdar

i feel insulted that someone would put "warewolves" in a sci-fi category.

anyway i'm on the pro-fanboy team. at least update the 'codex-Z' link so us z-fans still know where to go, the post with all the zombie links. or if not, turn over moderatorship of that thread to one of the fanboys and we'll just sit in our little corner of the forum. the biggest corner, but a corner nonetheless.

a sub forum will be fine too...

anyway, i hope you're considering giving a grace period when the name inevitably changes, like renaming the forum to
"Zombie Survival - a.k.a. 'Monsters Inc.' "

sure does make it sound like a pixar fanboy club.

anyway. i should really suggest...
hmm. i'll post it in the suggestions.
suggestion tiem

Valmont

Nerin wrote: »

Until people stop being zombie fanboys .

That's great, the moderator of the zombie survival forum is telling us to stop being zombie fanboys:rolleyes:

Nerin wrote: »

Also i don't think discussing other monsters will detract from the "serious" nature of discussion, the werewolf thread already proved that. The only people i've seen taking away from the "serious" aspect are the fanboys.

No but calling the forum something ridiculous like "The Monster forum" will make it sound less serious to new members of boards.ie who might be of a zombie inclination.

I don't care if other monsters are discussed and I do think it will help bring more people here but renaming the forum to "monster" something or other will make it look less appealing. "Zombie Survival" is a title that will grab anyones interest, werewolf fan or not.

Nerin

Valmont wrote: »

That's great, the moderator of the zombie survival forum is telling us to stop being zombie fanboys:rolleyes:



No but calling the forum something ridiculous like "The Monster forum" will make it sound less serious to new members of boards.ie who might be of a zombie inclination.

I don't care if other monsters are discussed and I do think it will help bring more people here but renaming the forum to "monster" something or other will make it look less appealing. "Zombie Survival" is a title that will grab anyones interest, werewolf fan or not.

Yeah,i am. Because to more extreme fanboys have been pushing us for a while and they're the ones being a pain.
For the record i'm a godzilla fanboy.
You do know what a fanboy is don't you?

To be perfectly honest- from a user perspective,i think that theres a lot of users here being very unfair. There are at least two or three people that pushed this place to be created that wanted to talk about all monsters and they don't post.
As a mod,it pisses me off that a forum,full of usually good users that i like and respect can be so bull headed and unwelcoming to new things.

smegmar

we're be forced to change something that the majority of regular posters in here don't want and we're being called bull headed!?

"wanted to talk about all monsters and they don't post."

"they don't post"

"DON'T POST"

"DON'T"!!!!

I think if we had a large group in here already posting about werewolves and boogie woogie man then I'd accept a name change, but THEY DON'T.

This is our (large) corner where we can be zombie fan boys as much as we want and no one bothers us. Crate a completely new forum for them else where just leave us be.


also : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanboy

Nerin

smegmar wrote: »

we're be forced to change something that the majority of regular posters in here don't want and we're being called bull headed!?

"wanted to talk about all monsters and they don't post."

"they don't post"

"DON'T POST"

"DON'T"!!!!

I think if we had a large group in here already posting about werewolves and boogie woogie man then I'd accept a name change, but THEY DON'T.

This is our (large) corner where we can be zombie fan boys as much as we want and no one bothers us. Crate a completely new forum for them else where just leave us be.


also : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanboy

And you don't see anything wrong with that? They don't post because you,as in YOU GUYS won't let them. You aren't welcoming to the other topics at all,anytime there has been one a mod has had to keep an eye on the threads because ye won't let people talk about the other stuff with the same serious vibes as ye expect for zombies.

This forum is a public forum on boards.ie. Other users are welcome to use it providing they abide by the charter. At the end of the day,
Its a ****ing name change to better describe the forum lads,nothing else.

If ye want to make it a big issue and cause a big split ye're going about it the right way. Its public. Everyones entitled to use it. If you don't like it,either put zombie survival as your vote in the thread or pm an admin an request a private forum. I'm getting sick of arguing with ye over something boney only did to be fair to all users not just ye.

smegmar

Calm down there Nerin I can see you're getting a bit flustered.

I don't think we're the reason that other topics aren't discussed here. If they get a thread going and are happy about it good for them. I won't join in but I won't try scare them off either. I think it's just because they don't really have the following or thought about it to keep threads going.

If you think a name change will bring them in have a go but there's a better chance zombie survivalists will miss out on this moreso

Nerin

smegmar wrote: »

Calm down there Nerin I can see you're getting a bit flustered.

I don't think we're the reason that other topics aren't discussed here. If they get a thread going and are happy about it good for them. I won't join in but I won't try scare them off either. I think it's just because they don't really have the following or thought about it to keep threads going.

If you think a name change will bring them in have a go but there's a better chance zombie survivalists will miss out on this moreso

I'm sorry i was flustered but being utterly honest this kinda thing pisses me off.
On the outside it looks really exclusionist. On the inside it just doesn't make sense.
If for example it was changed to the Monster Survival forum, how would that stop zombie talk?
Zombies would more than likely be the highest posted about monster anyway,because they are probably the greatest threat.
It makes sense in forum terms, if we were to make subforums, that zombies would be the sub. Thats how things are categorised. We kicked this around before when i suggested sub forum,and i came around to the idea that it would be worse to divide the forum up.

It just pisses me off seeing what appears to be moaning about changing the name,like its some giant big deal. If anything boney was trying to make the forum more open,welcome and popular.

thebouldwhacker

I think a split is bad however lets face it 'Zombie Survival' is without doubt the most fantastic name on boards and for that reason I believe it would be unfortunate to lose it.

I see great potential for debates such as vamps/wolves/z's whod win in a fight etc if more diversity was introduced but again have a look around, this forum is pretty uniuque. Shame to change it is all. Dont get me wrong I love vamps too but Z's are special:rolleyes:

Just wondering is there a quota of traffic for a forum to survive? Why change what aint broke? I realise I dont post here very often but I do enjoy reading the posts.


Thats my 2cents

ScumLord

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

I think a split is bad however lets face it 'Zombie Survival' is without doubt the most fantastic name on boards and for that reason I believe it would be unfortunate to lose it.

That's very true, zombie survival just sounds hard while monster forum sounds childish.

I'm sure we can find a compromise between the hard-line belligerent fanboys like myself and the more open minded folks. I'll be like the Ian Paisley of the zombie world and turn all nice to keep the name of the forum.

smegmar

Maybe keep The name Zombie survival but keep a sticky to let everyone know you can talk about all other monsters here. It's not that we're un-welcoming it's more so that there really isn't much traffic for serious talk about werewolves and vamps. It wold boil down to "who would win in a fight" and that's it.

If you're changing the name to try draw more people in I think "Zombie Survival" does that better then "Monsters forum" or whatever. You should just let more people know we're here.

*also Nerin your response to "are you guys serious lol" was hilarious

Micky Dolenz

wow, storm and tea cup spring to mind. not sure if I am a fanboy but I probably am.

Healthy discussion is a good thing, it shouldn't be invited if people don't want to hear what others think.

I started a thread about other creatures and interest is near to zero,However I plan to continue and next up is Vamps, we all love a sucker, don't we?:p

I don't think a name change as such will bring more people in, but I willing to go along with it.

Finally when i first came to Boards, the name of this fine forum struck me stairght away, the new namewill have to be as awesome.

Nerin

In fairness to ye i'll hold my hands up and say i over reacted and got un necessarily pissy and i apologise.
I was letting stuff irl come onto the net with me (this morning being stupid customers )

the thing is, i get the feeling any time on this forum anyone tries to bring in anything new theyre either shot down or made feel like its not the place.

i know youre saying the people that fought for the forum originally mostly arent here anymore, but you should realise that once you feel nudged from a forum its hard to go back for some.

this is still boneys thing and afaik hes busy so if i see him around ill air your thoughts with him.

I wanted a subforum in the beginning, but as i said, the logical categorisation would be to throw zombies as the sub instead of monsters.
i feel now that that would make it a) harder to find and b) make it seem less important.

to be honest im guessing if the users will work with us on this we can keep the name and up the other topics with a bit of cross forum pokage this way (theres lotsa random monster buffs on horror and noc forum from what ive seen)

No, forums on boards (afaik) dont get closed from lack of traffic, so it isnt a traffic thing, just would be nice to make it busier, get fresh blood etc.

cheers to scumlord for the ian paisley reference, it made me laugh in a builders face!

and thanks smegmar, no one trolls here. no one.

ScumLord

Nerin wrote: »

In fairness to ye i'll hold my hands up and say i over reacted and got un necessarily pissy and i apologise.
I was letting stuff irl come onto the net with me (this morning being stupid customers )

the thing is, i get the feeling any time on this forum anyone tries to bring in anything new theyre either shot down

Like shot in the head, with a shotgun?

or made feel like its not the place.

As in it's not secure, we need to keep moving, find a more secure place to hide out and find food?

thebouldwhacker

This is class, normally there are flare ups in boards in places like the religion forum over silly things like was jesus just an attention seeking carpenter, or in the motors forum over which is better, driving an Alpha Romeo or sex but this is about zombies!!!

People are getting worked up over the question should there be a zombie forum or a monster forum.... its things like this that really put perspective on the worlds woes... once more thanks boards:D

ScumLord

Just so everyone knows my new hobby is taking the zombie apocalypse way to seriously. Even when it does happen and zombies are all around us someone going to have to turn to me and say "dude, it's only the end of the world, relax will you"

Nerin

Just so ye know, i got a chance to talk to boney for a few minutes last night.
i told him some of ye werent happy with the name change, and i suggested we let ye chat more about it.

Kromdar

can we just put a note in the charter that yes you can talk about other stuff, and the z fanboys [now that we can see who they are] will just have to back off and let them post. if someone suggests warewolves, from now on as a compromise to losing our appealing name, we'll just let them, rather than the usual ridiculing.

what say ye?

Nerin

Kromdar wrote: »

can we just put a note in the charter that yes you can talk about other stuff, and the z fanboys [now that we can see who they are] will just have to back off and let them post. if someone suggests warewolves, from now on as a compromise to losing our appealing name, we'll just let them, rather than the usual ridiculing.

what say ye?

You have read the charter right,it says it quite clearly...

*squints*

Kromdar

Nerin wrote: »

You have read the charter right,it says it quite clearly...

*squints*

yea, well...


...anyway the point being just to be more tolerant.

not that most of the people against the name change [including myself] are really that tolerant about mythical creatures, but essentially everyone and their mates has had a conversation about zombies at some point, but not necessarily warewolves. as such the current name probably attracts more of a crowd, whereas the ones that are into the mythical creatures bit will have a look anyway. make some creature threads and sticky them to catch the attention of the latter, maybe?

ScumLord

I can see this forum becoming polarised between zombie purists and.. The rest that are into whatever their into. I for one welcome all forms of confrontation, I think it can only make us stronger in the long run, and should the day come when zombies/leprechauns come to break down our doors to eat our brains/find their pot of gold, we'll be ready for the bastards!

lostexpectation

you do realise what actually annoyed people was boney saying we're changing the name no discusion. and locking threads to ask where the hell this came from.

Just to clarify that it wasn't me that locked any previous thread - it was me, however, that did start this thread after some users PMed me asking to do so.

And just so people are aware, I've decided to take time away from boards and modding of this forum for the foreseeable future; I shall be kept consulted of any decisions that shall be made and shall be lurking every now and again to make sure things are in order.

ScumLord

Zombie survival is clear, concise and interesting. Given the popularity of zombies these days I think it's far more appealing than any other name which could mean literally anything.

If you aren't yet aware, you can vote on whether you want a name change here. The results will be made public on the 24th of this month when the poll will automatically close.

Just so people also know, if the poll is in favour of a name change, then we will go ahead with it. There will be no moaning or complaining about the outcome. This will be strictly adhered to.

Micky Dolenz

Why are the poll results hidden?

Micky Dolenz

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Why are the poll results hidden?

Adds to the suspense! Heh.

Don't worry, as I've stated previously, the results will be made public on the 24th.

ScumLord

I've voted. I'm more nervous about this one than any of those silly national elections.

thebouldwhacker

Hope no one minds if I carry a vote no sig for a bit, I like the name, dont wanna put anyones nose outa joint at the same time:)

Nerin

/Shrug
Fair enough, but then you run the risk of people on the yes side just getting all their mates to vote yes and then never use the forum again.
Its for the regulars as much as the people who never noticed it before.
So ive no problem with your sig

Nerin

actually, personally (not as a mod) i have a bit of a problem with it.

The Zombie Survival Forum is under attack and needs you!!
No it isnt. No ones attacking it. Its just a suggestion to see if we can be more inclusive and to see what others think.
Click on the Zombies and have your say,
Fair enough, but...
vote NO WAY,
...Then you say vote no. thats not people voting how they want, thats people voting how you want. Its not a political race.
THIS FORUM IS HERE TO STAY!
Yes it is, no matter whether it gets a name change or not. Saying otherwise is just misleading/

thebouldwhacker

just goes to show democracy is an ass... meh, If nothing else it'll get some traffic:)

thebouldwhacker

Nerin wrote: »

actually, personally (not as a mod) i have a bit of a problem with it.

The Zombie Survival Forum is under attack and needs you!!
No it isnt. No ones attacking it. Its just a suggestion to see if we can be more inclusive and to see what others think.
Click on the Zombies and have your say,
Fair enough, but...
vote NO WAY,
...Then you say vote no. thats not people voting how they want, thats people voting how you want. Its not a political race.
THIS FORUM IS HERE TO STAY!
Yes it is, no matter whether it gets a name change or not. Saying otherwise is just misleading/

Ah carp....

It was more for dramatic effect, I'll change the wording though:pac:

*edit* done, gonna keep the leading 'vote no' statement just to keep it raw!!

I have no problem with it either as long as its kept tasteful and not insulting. Adds to the whole thing!

Carsinian Thau

I like the current name.

I voted to keep it the same.

lostexpectation

again who asked for the name change?

Nerin

lostexpectation wrote: »

again who asked for the name change?

youve already been told:

Boney suggested it.

He asked could he make a competition of it.
And asked the Admins if it was cool.
They said yes.
Then Users posted their ideas for names.

lostexpectation

and he already said it wasn't his idea

Nerin

lostexpectation wrote: »

and he already said it wasn't his idea

No he didnt, he said he didnt lock the last thread.
i did, because i was in work, and then he responded to it for me so i didnt have to mod while in work.