Front Squat to Back Squat Ratio

BobbyOLeary

Hi guys,

Last night at training I did some triples in the Front Squat and on the way home I got thinking about the ratio between my front and back squats and whether or not it's normal to have them close or not.

At the moment I've got a Low Bar Back Squat 1RM of 115kg and a Front Squat 1RM of 95kg (It's less than G'em I know). This gives me a ratio of roughly 1:1.2 for Front Squat:Back Squat. Just wondering how everybody elses ratios compare?

I'd be curious to see how some of the oly lifters compare with traditional power lifters let's say. Obviously if you don't train the front squat your ratio will be skewed hugely but sure post it up anyhow.

Cheers guys.

d'Oracle

This is my observation on squat and variations.
Just an observation mind, I like to think I know Jack ****.

I think the low bar Back squat (like the powerlifters do) should be thought of as a different exercise instead of a variation.

It seems to me the movement and the shape of the High Bar (oly) back squat, front squat and over head squat are different enough from the LBBS to be considered as far apart as Bench and Shoulder press.
A deadlift should assist the LBBS more than the more upright squats.

Even trying to air squat in the different forms feels very different.
So unless you are thinking HBBS and FS, its kind of irrelevant. IMO.

As I said, Jack ****.

BobbyOLeary

I get what you mean alright, the movement pattern is quite different. I've never done high bar oly back squats, only low bar stuff. There is huge similarity between the front squat and overhead squat but not so much between them and the back squat. Still though, I'm as much interested in the relationship between my shoulder press and bench as I am in this. Just curious to see whether the two converge or not.

spiral

My front squat has always been about 90% of my back squat but I think people can vary a lot

BobbyOLeary

Do you do olympic lifting Spiral? Or just train the front squat regularly?

neilmct.com

best back squat = 190kg to the deck

x grip front squat 150kg and an o grip i recently missed the 140kg but have only started doing o grip

personally a big front squat is much more impressive

tlev

neilmct.com wrote: »

best back squat = 190kg to the deck

x grip front squat 150kg and an o grip i recently missed the 140kg but have only started doing o grip

personally a big front squat is much more impressive

Wow, that is an impressive front squat. I checked out our site and you are in great shape man!

Quick q if you don't mind, how old are you and how long have you been training for ?

neilmct.com

tlev wrote: »

Wow, that is an impressive front squat. I checked out our site and you are in great shape man!

Quick q if you don't mind, how old are you and how long have you been training for ?

my missus is 8 ish stone and back squat 100kg easy :-)


im 29 - started training at 16

would like to nail a 150kg O grip f squat - if i do ill get a video up

tlev

neilmct.com wrote: »

my missus is 8 ish stone and back squat 100kg easy :-)


im 29 - started training at 16

would like to nail a 150kg O grip f squat - if i do ill get a video up

Haha, now you are just showing off Next you'll say your dog squats 90kgs using holding the bar in its teeth!

But seriously, kudos to that hard work!

Anyway back on topic....sorry about that

BobbyOLeary

How often would you train the front squat Neil?

neilmct.com

tlev wrote: »

Haha, now you are just showing off Next you'll say your dog squats 90kgs using holding the bar in its teeth!

nah, he doesnt max out - prefers 5 x 5 with 80kg

neilmct.com

BobbyOLeary wrote: »

How often would you train the front squat Neil?

hey man

my routine is upper / lower

took a vid of the upper the other day -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnMFojH7ZeA

often it goes upper/ lower / off / upper / lower / off

it just depends on how i feel and with work etc


my lower day is deadlifts - just started back at heavy stuff after grappling injury last year so last month started off with 100kg for 5 x 5 and worked up to a 200kg dead recently which is close to where i was

i deadlift then front squat - front squat reps / sets based on how i feel after deads

spiral

BobbyOLeary wrote: »

Do you do olympic lifting Spiral? Or just train the front squat regularly?

Bobby O lift but technique far from stellar to be honest. But the ratio has stayed fairly constant for me and my squat technique is reasonable High bar back squat 135 , front squat 120

Edwardius

Enda Kenny wrote: »

Hi guys,

Last night at training I did some triples in the Front Squat and on the way home I got thinking about the ratio between my front and back squats and whether or not it's normal to have them close or not.

At the moment I've got a Low Bar Back Squat 1RM of 115kg and a Front Squat 1RM of 95kg (It's less than G'em I know). This gives me a ratio of roughly 1:1.2 for Front Squat:Back Squat. Just wondering how everybody elses ratios compare?

I'd be curious to see how some of the oly lifters compare with traditional power lifters let's say. Obviously if you don't train the front squat your ratio will be skewed hugely but sure post it up anyhow.

Cheers guys.

with regards to the ratio between back and front squat, "ideally, a lifter's back and front squat should both be 150% of what they are now"

BobbyOLeary

Dead Ed wrote: »

with regards to the ratio between back and front squat, "ideally, a lifter's back and front squat should both be 150% of what they are now"

True knowledge