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Slimming World coming to Dublin!

  • 07-08-2009 7:47am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭


    Hi there,

    I'm not sure how many of you know about Slimming World (www.slimmingworld.com) but I've used this plan in the past and I'm back on it now and it's brilliant. They are opening classes in Dublin soon. If anyone would like more info pm me :-)

    Trix


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 SnoozieWoozie


    I had heard the great news Trix --- I've lost over 9 stone with Slimming World - I can't wait for the groups to launch in the ROI. Great news eh? xx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    Hmm, I detect a whiff of shills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭gaz wac


    "PM me for more info"

    and a 1st time poster......hmmmmm me thinks your onto somthing here !!! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 SnoozieWoozie


    Sorry I have no idea what a shill is?

    yes I am a first time poster on this forum (that's not a hanging offence here is it?? lol)

    Ive just moved here from the UK and had actually signed up on here to look for housing information for drogheda and that area as that is where we are looking to buy but as is normal with these big forums you end going down all sorts of routes that take your fancy along the way to finding the information you are really after! I was just so excited to see someone else here who actually knew what slimming world was ....cos not many in Ireland do!

    Have a good day from a novice 2nd time poster :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Hmm, I detect a whiff of shills.
    So did I earlier on! I checked the OP's other posts and they seem to be a legit member, the pm bit was odd though


    Sorry I have no idea what a shill is?

    yes I am a first time poster on this forum (that's not a hanging offence here is it?? lol)
    Not hanging, just banned ;) A shill is somebody with a vested interest in a company promoting it by falsely appearing to be a satisfied customer. It is a form of spam.

    I will give you the benefit of the doubt this time, this seems to be a program similar to WW, doesn't seem to be faddy or involving pharmaceuticals. I'll leave this open for now, though I am 50/50... other mods please feel free to lock it up if your shill radar is beeping.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 SnoozieWoozie


    Thanks for the clarification on what a shill is. I've seen plenty of links to companies on different peoples signature on this forum so there does as you say seem to be advertising going on.

    However I want to assure you that I have been following the slimming world plan for the last 2 years and have in fact lost over 9 stone - got the pictures to prove it.....when I work out how to use this place better I will try and upload them so you can see how fab Slimming World actually is :)

    Anyway great that you keep such a close eye on things here - well done and keep up the good work!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    Well done Snooziewoozie - how amazing. I've clarified via pm to rubadub the reasoning behind my post. I used to travel to Newry to attend classes (from Dublin) as it's such an amazing plan, and my post was merely to spread the good news that SW are coming to Dublin.

    Gaz wac and fatmammycat - I apologise if you thought anything more sinister was going on lol. I knew I wasn't allowed advertise the site - hence the "pm me for more info"... Anyway, I've cleared all with the mod now :-)

    Snooziewoozie - onwards and downwards and congrats again on your fab loss!

    Trix
    x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ali4europe


    hi im new to this boards forum but googled slimming world ireland and you popped up with your post on slimming world!! i have heard so much about slimming ireland and my friends and i are dying to know when its coming down to dublin or even a little bit closer then enniskillen??? hopefully its asap cause we are all ready to kick start our asses for xmas!!! please tell!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    I just sent you a pm with some details.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭dubsgirl


    Can you send details on to me also - thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    I sent you a pm :0)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭jakeypooh


    Can you send one onto me also I would love to know where the classes are


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    One of my friends, who lived in the UK speaks very highly of this program.
    Could someone explain it to me please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I just sent you a pm with some details.....
    newbies signing up are "bumping" this thread and it does sort of look like shilling is going on, but you are obviously getting interest from legit members too.

    You could send your info to me by pm if you want. If it seems too much like blatant advertising I can't allow it be posted. But I might have to just snip bits out and run it by the other mods -I could then add it to your original post. Like Moonbaby I would be interested in hearing what it is about, which I see no harm in posting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    ...it's not my intention for "shilling" to occur. I've sent you a pm with some details, so let me know what I can/cannot do with regards to sharing information on this...

    Appreciate your help,
    Trix


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭peepeep


    Hi there,

    I'm not sure how many of you know about Slimming World (www.slimmingworld.com) but I've used this plan in the past and I'm back on it now and it's brilliant.


    If it was so great, why would you need to do it again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    Well I did it when I originally followed the plan when I worked in the UK. When I came home, I was initially able to travel up to attend the classes in Newry. However I work in Dublin/Meath now and can't get up to the Newry classes. It's never as easy to follow a plan if you don't have to face the scales each week :0) It's therefore easy to slip up and think "I'll start again tomorrow" etc, when you don't have to go to class. At least now, I'll have easy access to classes and that way will stick to the plan...

    :0)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    ...for the helpful feedback.

    For those of you who are interested in the plan - you'll find sample menus on www.slimmingworld.com. There are also classes opening in Sept/Oct in Sligo, and in Dublin (Tallaght and Ballsbridge). The details of these classes will be posted on the SW website shortly.

    Onwards and downwards :0)
    Trix


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 525 ✭✭✭ya-what-now?


    Hey Teachertrixibel,

    Just wondering if you could clear things up for me. I'm just having a quick look at the free trial menu (non-vegetarian) and I read on the page beforehand that all foods in bold you can eat as much of and don't have to weigh out portions.

    Looking at some of the food on this list I can't understand how you can eat as much of it (such as pasta, ham slices, basmati rice, chicken, steak) as you like and lose weight!? I know none of these foods are the worst in the world, but in large portions surely they wouldn't help weight loss?

    I've been doing weight watchers for about a year and a half, and so much of it is about portion size, I'm just wondering how slimming world works if you don't have to weigh out such foods?

    Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭peepeep


    Well I did it when I originally followed the plan when I worked in the UK. When I came home, I was initially able to travel up to attend the classes in Newry. However I work in Dublin/Meath now and can't get up to the Newry classes. It's never as easy to follow a plan if you don't have to face the scales each week :0) It's therefore easy to slip up and think "I'll start again tomorrow" etc, when you don't have to go to class. At least now, I'll have easy access to classes and that way will stick to the plan...

    :0)


    So you can't lose weight unless you pay this company money?

    FAIL.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    The idea of eating as much of the free food as you want (without stuffing yourself - ie: just satisfying your appetite) is, for me, the best part of the plan for me. If you follow this link on the site:
    http://www.slimmingworld.com/press/food_optimising.asp it gives you the reasons why you can eat so much free food. That's one of the many attractions of SW for me. I used to be a member of another slimming group but I was always hungry, so this one is great :0)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    peepeep wrote: »
    So you can't lose weight unless you pay this company money?

    FAIL.

    This is not After Hours ffs. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    Wow, I'm sorry you feel that way. You ask anyone that goes to any type of slimming club - knowing you have to face the scales once a week helps keep people (including me) on track.

    It's more than that with SW though - it's also the fantastic moral support and motivation that you get from them. That makes all the difference for me.

    Speaking from personal experience (and I've attended various slimming groups), SW is the one that I have found I can eat a huge variety of food, I'm never hungry and the support from the consultants and from the other slimmers is second to none.... For me, it's worth every penny :0)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    This is not After Hours ffs. :rolleyes:
    Indeed, and I am glad teachertrixibel gave reasoned civil responses to your questions, which seemed rhetorically offensive/provocative to me. If you have constructive advice please give it, otherwise just leave it out.

    Many people find having a weekly commitment helps them to stay on track. For women many go to WW or groups like this, it costs money but is worth it to them. Many lads I know also need another form of commitment, e.g. joining a football club and having to go to training each week, or join a gym and feeling the need to go to get value from their membership fees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭shivvyban


    Hi Ya,

    Would you be able to pm me the info as well? About to embark on a new lose weight, get fit and quit smoking regieme!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 megan27


    I have to say after living abroad and trying it, I find the best plan out there is now Unislim. I have tried Weight Watchers, Slimming World, Jenny Craig...you name it.... Unislim has all Irish foods in it, the leaders have smaller numbers therefore they REALLY follow up on you and care about you plus can you believe this year a girl lost 15stone on Unislim, Leonita Munroe. Check out www.unislim.ie. There is a great leader in Dublin Terenure, Karen who runs 4 classes. Templeogue and Tymon in Tallaght. We just love her and I so far have lost 5 stone in less than 8 months.

    Go Irish in times of recession I say!!

    Megan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teachertrixibel


    Congrats on your weightloss.

    Like you, I've also tried nearly every plan out there, not to mention the dubious slimming pills in times of desperation (which never worked!)!

    I tried Unislim before, but I was always hungry. I'd always struggled with pointing/counting fruit on other plans, and now I can eat it when I want.

    That's why I love Slimming World so much - I can eat as much fruit/veg/pasta/muller light yoghurts/eggs etc as I like (any time of the day, without measuring/counting etc) and still lose weight!

    One of the guys in my last group up North lost 4 stone in 4 mths. I guess it's whatever diet program suits you best :0)

    Best of luck with your continued weightloss journey
    Trix
    :0)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭flynnser19


    i love it too i went to the class just outside newry cause im from dundalk and i lost a stone in a month and a half with it and it stayed off but when i went back to college in september i had no class to go to in dublin and whenj it did come to dublin it was a pain to get to!!im gonna start back again in dundalk though when i move back home soon!!!cant wait to be skinny again woooo!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Cadyboo


    I was looking at this thread and looked up the slimming world site, and maybe I didnt read enough of the info but Im wondering how you can loose weight eating so much of the so called 'free' foods?
    I have gone to unislim before and I think they go by the fibre in food, weightwatchers go by sat fat. What do slimming world go by? And can I ask how much you pay per week?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    please tell me this whole post is a joke??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    How is this thread not closed yet mods?? This is a blatent advertising/recruitment campaign by Trix (does anyone else find the flawlessly phraed and eloquent posting suspicious :confused:) and the sudden wave of first posters all agreeing with him/her.
    I'm sure anyone interested can do their own research into the company without needing this farce to continue any longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    How is this thread not closed yet mods?? This is a blatent advertising/recruitment campaign by Trix (does anyone else find the flawlessly phraed and eloquent posting suspicious :confused:) and the sudden wave of first posters all agreeing with him/her.
    I'm sure anyone interested can do their own research into the company without needing this farce to continue any longer.
    totally agreed!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Curvy Vixen


    I'm not sure why Transform and Khrystyna are calling for this thread to be closed? The mods have obviously looked into it and are happy that it is a legit posting.....and the only one time poster that I have seen reply on it is actually pushing Unislim!!

    Cadyboo, I lost over 15 stone with the help of Slimming World. They are a well established company having been in the UK and NI for 41 years now and work on the basis of Food Optimising. They give a huge list of high density low GI foods that fill your belly for longer basically. There's a better scientific explanation but I like that one :D They have actually had more members than WW for 16 years now and they are the only company in the UK that GP's have the agreement of the Briish Medical Association to refer patients to....that in itself is pretty convincing.

    They started opening groups in Dublin about 4 months ago and are just trying to expand throughout Ireland now.

    WW is discussed pretty extensively on this site, even having their own sticky so not sure what the problem is with people extolling the virtues of SW.

    In answer to your other question, it's just €9 per week...cheaper than the other weight loss groups as far as I know.

    Hope this answers your queries :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    I'm not sure why Transform and Khrystyna are calling for this thread to be closed? The mods have obviously looked into it and are happy that it is a legit posting.....and the only one time poster that I have seen reply on it is actually pushing Unislim!!

    Cadyboo, I lost over 15 stone with the help of Slimming World. They are a well established company having been in the UK and NI for 41 years now and work on the basis of Food Optimising. They give a huge list of high density low GI foods that fill your belly for longer basically. There's a better scientific explanation but I like that one :D They have actually had more members than WW for 16 years now and they are the only company in the UK that GP's have the agreement of the Briish Medical Association to refer patients to....that in itself is pretty convincing.

    They started opening groups in Dublin about 4 months ago and are just trying to expand throughout Ireland now.

    WW is discussed pretty extensively on this site, even having their own sticky so not sure what the problem is with people extolling the virtues of SW.

    In answer to your other question, it's just €9 per week...cheaper than the other weight loss groups as far as I know.

    Hope this answers your queries :)
    all of which is offered HERE for free with better scientific back up, weight loss evidence and support.

    could you please explain what 'food optimising' is also?

    Sounds like another psudo scientific word for SORT YOUR BLOODY DIET OUT, EAT LESS CARBS, TAKE MORE EXERCISE AND STOP USING THE SCALES AS A MEASURE OF YOUR PROGRESS.
    Sorry but just had a coffee and can have that effect on me but seriously what has ANY weight loss plan offering that is NOT already offered here? I work as a trainer and gladly give advice for free and encourage all those looking to get in shape to use this site as a resource.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Curvy Vixen


    Transform wrote: »
    all of which is offered HERE for free with better scientific back up, weight loss evidence and support.

    could you please explain what 'food optimising' is also?

    Sounds like another psudo scientific word for SORT YOUR BLOODY DIET OUT, EAT LESS CARBS, TAKE MORE EXERCISE AND STOP USING THE SCALES AS A MEASURE OF YOUR PROGRESS.
    Sorry but just had a coffee and can have that effect on me but seriously what has ANY weight loss plan offering that is NOT already offered here? I work as a trainer and gladly give advice for free and encourage all those looking to get in shape to use this site as a resource.

    Transform, I think that in many sense we are actually coming from the same angle to be honest.

    I have never said that people should attend SW classes instead of using Boards as a free resource :confused: Some people lose weight better as part of a structured group whereby you weigh in and then share experiences/tips/info etc. I have members in my group that have no access to the internet or even if they do, they wouldn't know where to begin using it.

    I used SW myself to help me lose my weight. I also used a personal trainer for a year to try and get my body into some sort of half decent shape, and the trainer that I used was fully aware of the SW eating plan and fully endorsed it. They are not faddy, they allow you to eat everything but teach you what a healthy balance of food intake is. I would never, ever endorse anything that was unhealthy in order to lose weight and trust me, I have tried many options in my life. I love the fact that SW helped me lose weight but I love the fact that more importantly it is still off after almost 3 years.

    It always sounds a bit mad to those that are very aware of their food intake or exercise routine that there are many, many people out there that just don't know where to begin. I always find it strange when people don't cook from scratch for instance but then, I had a mum who taught me to cook from an early age. Not everyone had that experience.

    As a matter of interest is it just SW that you have an issue with or 'weight loss groups' in general?

    ETA: Forgot this bit. sorry...you commented that "all of which is offered HERE for free with better scientific back up, weight loss evidence and support." How do you know this? You have never been to a SW class or have any in depth knowledge about the plan so how can you be so sure about this? I am more than happy to discuss the merits (or not) of groups but at the very least you should have an amount of knowledge about them. I am pretty sure that the British Medical Association has some degree of confidence in the nutritional values of the SW plans in order to allow GP's to refer patients to the company.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    they are the only company in the UK that GP's have the agreement of the Briish Medical Association to refer patients to....that in itself is pretty convincing.


    No offence but that, to me, is anything but convincing. GPS really know next to zilch about fitness and are quite old school regards diet and foods. This would put me off more than anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    ULstudent wrote: »
    No offence but that, to me, is anything but convincing. GPS really know next to zilch about fitness and are quite old school regards diet and foods. This would put me off more than anything.

    Big time and very vested interests no doubt too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    Big time and very vested interests no doubt too!


    True - it reminded me off the US food pyramid from the 70s and its grain producers loving and acceptance for it in mainstream society. Wonder why?!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Curvy Vixen


    Big time and very vested interests no doubt too!

    Shame about the cynacism to be honest....I would have thought that the best outcome really is that they are actually, maybe in their own 'clumsy' way, trying to help people deal with obesity and the knock on effects that it has on the National Health. So yes, in helping people they have a vested interest maybe.

    What would be your answer to the issues? How would you help people deal with obesity? Have you had that issue to deal with yourself? If so, how did you deal with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Curvy Vixen


    ULstudent wrote: »
    No offence but that, to me, is anything but convincing. GPS really know next to zilch about fitness and are quite old school regards diet and foods. This would put me off more than anything.

    I disagree. And I have already said that I am talking about the NHS here so I know they have no place in Ireland but I think that they are trying to take steps to deal with, what has become a national crisis.

    In Ireland, 64% of the population are now overweight or obese. It's a very real issue that needs to be dealt with and if they are starting to refer people to weight loss groups in the UK and if that move is working for people then why not? Providing those groups, whoever they may be, are teaching people to eat correctly and exercise etc and not trying to pump them full of low cal milkshakes or speed tablets then why would anyone have an issue with that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Sapsorrow


    Shame about the cynacism to be honest....I would have thought that the best outcome really is that they are actually, maybe in their own 'clumsy' way, trying to help people deal with obesity and the knock on effects that it has on the National Health. So yes, in helping people they have a vested interest maybe.

    What would be your answer to the issues? How would you help people deal with obesity? Have you had that issue to deal with yourself? If so, how did you deal with it?

    LOL maybe they're just interested in making money? Obesity and weight loss is a HUGE industry! If slimming world was such a caring company they would be registered as a charity organisation by now instead of trying to make a profit of normal people with health problems.
    Well seeing as I'm due to qualify as a nutritionist in May and plan on specialising as a weight loss consultant I'll be doing my part of dealing with the crisis myself in time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    I do think tha places like slimming world have their place especially for people that could only ever do it in that type of environment but i know, since losing 5 and a half stone and taking the time to really read articles, journals and books and learning the science breifly behind how the body metabolises food and responds to exercise, that their are much better, effecient and healtheir ways to do so.

    If somebody finds they can only keep the weight off by doing slimming world then it has its place ... its just not for me and statements like the above are far from persuasive too ... but ill stop now because im sounding all preachy and i dont mean to.

    EDIT: actually change my point - charging 9euro every week for someone to stand on a scale, have achat and have meetings and talk about how to lose weight, nutririon talk etc. is a complete joke. My advise - go to a reputable trainer for 2/3 sessions and learn the basics of exercise and diet and you are set for life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    It is known that the NHS trusts are stuck for money. It would be a huge coup to have such apparently unquestionable backing.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/nov/02/obesity-nhs-health-weight-loss

    30,000 sent to slimming clubs by NHS

    GPs open new front in obesity battle by referring their overweight patients to private clubs


    The NHS is paying for tens of thousands of overweight and obese people to attend private slimming clubs, according to new figures.

    More than 30,000 patients have been referred to WeightWatchers and Slimming World as part of an NHS initiative launched last year to help GPs fight Britain's growing obesity problem. One in four of the 188 primary care trusts and health boards in Britain is working with WeightWatchers and more than one in five is working with Slimming World, although some health trusts might be working with both clubs.

    Health trusts that buy vouchers from the commercial weight loss organisations say the approach is about a third cheaper than alternative approaches, such as slimming drugs and 'tummy tuck' operations including gastric bands and gastric bypasses. The programmes, which focus on education and transforming lifestyles, claim to be more successful in achieving permanent weight loss than the alternatives.

    'Although we were initially hesitant about paying a private commercial organisation to provide services for us, we now have no qualms at all,' said Natalie Field, associate director of public health at Bristol Primary Care Trust. 'We're absolutely delighted with the success of this scheme.'

    Bristol has been running a pilot project since 2004 and now has all 57 of its GP practices signed up. Last month, the trust expanded the scheme, encouraging GPs to prescribe a second 12-week course for patients who lose five per cent of their body weight during the first programme. Vouchers for slimming clubs cost about £40 for a three-month course. A month's supply of drugs to aid slimming costs between £25 and £44.

    'A small-scale evaluation in 2004 of our scheme suggests that cost per kilogram lost is £16 for patients receiving support through our slimming club programme compared to £50 for drug therapy,' said Field. 'We have referred over 2,200 patients to the scheme. Attendance is high and initial results suggest that not only do patients keep the weight off, but the weight loss continues,' she added.

    Dr Jacquie Lavin, nutritionist and health partnerships manager of Slimming World, said the scheme had benefits for patients and the NHS. 'Drugs do work but they are short term, can have unpleasant side-effects and can be dangerous for those with high blood pressure, which is something most overweight people suffer from,' she said.

    The NHS was given the green light to work with slimming organisations in January when the government published its 'Healthy Weight, Healthy Lives' cross-government strategy for England.

    Sally Cornfield is in charge of weight loss programmes for the Dudley Primary Care Trust in the West Midlands. 'Here in Dudley we have well above the national average of adults and children who are overweight and well above the national average of those who are obese. We also have one of the least active populations in the country,' she said. 'We are tackling this with a number of services but the referrals we make to WeightWatchers are by far our most popular option.

    'Doctors can be wary of sending people to groups away from the surgery. But we have had such excellent feedback that we are now finding people are asking for referrals. We are getting requests to refer patients to WeightWatchers at the rate of around 500 a month.'

    Slimming World and WeightWatchers say that, on average, patients referred by their GPs lose 4.3kg (9.5lb) over the first 12 weeks, with 39 per cent of patients losing more than 5 per cent of their initial weight.

    Audrey O'Brien, head of service innovation at WeightWatchers, called the scheme 'seminal'. 'The NHS has always been reticent to work with private organisations but there has been a real shift in that thinking,' she said. 'There is a recognition that we need a cross-societal approach to fight this battle. There is no one element of society that can be adapted to fix obesity. We have to transform entire lifestyles, and that's what slimming clubs teach our patients.'
    'If the NHS is paying for it, I thought I'd better make it work'

    Molly Young, 64, from Ayrshire, weighed 15 stone 5lb and was a dress size 22 when her health trust offered her a free 12-week WeightWatchers course. She now weighs 11 stone 8lb and is a size 14.

    'I have diabetes, had recently undergone one knee replacement and was on the waiting list to have the other one replaced too. I was taking strong pain killers, my cholesterol levels were high and so was my blood pressure.

    'One day, my chemist told me about a free trial for WeightWatchers meetings. I thought "Well, if the NHS is prepared to pay for me to go, I had better stick to it and make it work". Because it was someone else's money I didn't want to let them down.'

    It took Molly a year to lose four stone but her weight loss has reduced the pain in her knee and she no longer needs the second operation, saving the NHS about £10,000. She now walks miles each day with her 15-month-old grandson.

    'My only regret is that I left it so long before losing the weight. If I had known how it would transform my life I would have done it years ago. To walk with no pain, not to have the fear of another knee operation and to have my diabetes under control is marvellous.'

    Others using the NHS...http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2006/may/28/health.food

    Burger bars replace NHS coffee shops

    Trusts to ditch volunteers for fast-food income


    Hospital cafes staffed by volunteers who offer cheap drinks and snacks - and a sympathetic ear - could soon be consigned to history. Dozens of NHS trusts, faced with mounting deficits, are bringing in burger bars and cafes run by high-street chains to earn more from higher rents.

    Burger King has four outlets in hospitals across England, including one at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge, which treats thousands of heart patients each year. Other chains, such as Costa Coffee, are increasingly appearing in the place of old-style cafes in hospital foyers.

    The WRVS, one of the largest voluntary organisations in Britain, says it will have to fight to keep its cafes and shops within hospitals because it cannot afford to pay the same level of commercial rent as the high-street chains. It has 28,000 volunteers working in more than 400 hospitals, carrying out tasks that include talking to relatives, collecting prescriptions, running library services and helping people to find their way through to the wards. Its chief executive, Mark Lever, said: 'This year will be crucial for us. We have to prove to trusts that we can offer so much more through our volunteers.

    'But we do know that trusts need to maximise their rents and we are really feeling that commercial pressure, as obviously some of the chains can pay more. I would hope that the NHS can see that although we can't place a monetary value on what we do, it is very precious.'

    Lever said that the WRVS had lost two or three outlets this year and he believed it could lose many more in the next 12 months. Traditionally, hospitals' Leagues of Friends and WRVS groups have been charged very low rents for running cafes. Any profits have been given back to the hospitals.

    Hundreds of doctors have voiced their opposition to the move on Doctors.net, the online forum for British medics.

    At Bedford Hospital, the WRVS has been told that it will have to lose its shop and volunteers will be leaving at the end of this week. Consultants are furious at the move, which they believe is motivated solely by the trust's desire to maximise its revenue.

    One doctor said: 'It's so short-sighted. For as long as anyone who works in our hospital can remember the WRVS have run a small shop selling drinks, chocolate, sweets, and over the years they have given us tens of thousands of pounds. They perform a vital social function and are always happy to chat with distressed relatives and patients. Now they are being asked to move to make way for some high-street store. But the service will be worse and everything will cost more.'

    No one from Bedford Hospital was available to comment.

    Addenbrooke's Hospital has kept a WRVS cafe in its outpatient clinic but the main concourse offers a Burger King as well as a Cafe Ritazza and an Upper Crust baguette bar, all run on a franchise basis by Medirest, which is part of the food services company Compass Group. Medirest, which also runs catering, cleaning and portering services across the NHS, has announced that it wants to bring more vending machines into hospitals.


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