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Rowing?

  • 04-08-2009 4:21pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭


    How long each day would you have to spend rowing to lose weight/tone up taking into account that my diet is already grand as is.

    Thanks,
    Cheeky


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    If you kept a steady stroke rate (no jokes please:D) you'd probably be fine with 30 mins 3-4 times a week. It burns up a lot of calories according to the read out I get on the display.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    How is your diet grand as is if you're not losing weight but you want to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Khannie wrote: »
    How is your diet grand as is if you're not losing weight but you want to?

    Because I amn't going to deprive myself of food I enjoy, that's ridiculous. Surely if I eat sensibly and exercise accordingly I am grand?

    30 mins on a rower is a lot christ lol i was talking like 7 min 2000 metre stroke a night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    Because I amn't going to deprive myself of food I enjoy, that's ridiculous. Surely if I eat sensibly and exercise accordingly I am grand?

    You still need to produce a calorie deficit to lose weight. Generally this is going to involve somewhat reducing what you eat along with increasing your exercise rate. Eating maintenance calories, then producing a deficit by Rowing 1K per night will not produce weight loss at any kind of reasonable rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    When i seen who the OP was i could tell facepalm was only a few seconds away.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Khannie wrote: »
    You still need to produce a calorie deficit to lose weight.

    Not meaning to be cheeky or smart but obviously :)

    I just want to know just how good rowing is? Is it worth purchasing one? I mean a good one like the concept II like no messing around I want to take this serious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    I mean a good one like the concept II like no messing around I want to take this serious

    Really?
    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    30 mins on a rower is a lot christ lol i was talking like 6 min 1000 metre stroke a night?

    Doing 1000m in 6 minutes is barely any exercise at all. When I rowed competitively I was able to do 2000m in ~7 minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Baza210 wrote: »
    Really?



    Doing 1000m in 6 minutes is barely any exercise at all. When I rowed competitively I was able to do 2000m in ~7 minutes.

    Sorry, i genuinely meant 2000m in 7 mins. I used to do personal training so i had to keep beating my target of 2000m in under 8. Sorry my mistake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Baza210 wrote: »
    When I rowed competitively I was able to do 2000m in ~7 minutes.

    Very nice. Maintaining 1m45 / 500 metres for 7 minutes is rough.

    Cheeky_gal: Concept 2 is a savage piece of kit. If you think you'll use it regularly and you have the cash then by all means go for it. I'd love one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Baza210 wrote: »
    Really?

    Seriously I am been dead serious. Can someone please give actual advice/opinions. All I want to know is just how good is the rower, i assume it's the best out of all cardio machines as it works everywhere yeh? Only thing i am worried about is hurting my back, had a few back pains sometimes after i used it in the gym. Though out of all machines I always left it til last cuz i found it took the most out of me so it must be super? Also, i really do want to get fit and tone up asap. I'm 5"8 and 11 stone. So how long/intensity each night?
    Thanks :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Khannie wrote: »
    Very nice. Maintaining 1m45 / 500 metres for 7 minutes is rough.

    Cheeky_gal: Concept 2 is a savage piece of kit. If you think you'll use it regularly and you have the cash then by all means go for it. I'd love one.

    I already ordered one Khannie so i am taking it serious :) Luckily my brother's friend was selling his one at a decent enough price so he's dropping it over during the week. Hence I want to be prepared


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    I'm 5"8 and 11 stone. So how long/intensity each night?

    Are you currently gaining or just maintaining weight?

    How much weight do you want to lose? How quickly?

    edit: Take those answers and plug them into some of the online calorie counters. For each 1lb of fat you want to lose you need to produce a deficit of around 3500 calories. That's a LOT of rowing (this is why I suggested some diet and some exercise).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭cheekay


    The concept II is a very good cardio machine. You could mix up the sessions a bit. Say some nights do the 2000 metre at 1.45 / 500 and then other times you could do 6 x 500 metres or pyramid sets. That way you'll still benefit from short/intense workouts and you won't get bored.

    Make sure your technique is correct. As long as you're using the power in your legs for most of the stroke you should't get back problems.It's worth learning the proper technique to avoid these back problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    Rowing is probably my favourite form of cardio. If you're doing 2k under 8mins and you're female I'd take that as a good time although very hard to keep up that pace for half an hour.

    Half an hour at a stroke rate of 25 for half an hour isn't that much honestly, especially if you've done 2k in less than 8 minutes.

    On a sidenote, how much carry over does the concept 2 rower have into actual rowing? If you could easily do sub 2k rows on a concept rower would a rowing club welcome you on board?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    i honestly thought this thread was a p**s take, but just in case its not heres my two cents .. OP no form of cardio is necessarily "better" than any other .. anything that gets your heart rate up to a high enough level will be fine .. regarding the diet, you would be better off posting up your current diet because if it was "grand" you would be at an ideal weight without doing any cardio! unfortunately its nearly impossible to exercise out a bad diet, if you were to do two hours every day in the rower you could eat more or less what you like but do you really want to go there??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    corkcomp wrote: »
    i honestly thought this thread was a p**s take, but just in case its not heres my two cents ..

    No I can be serious when I want to, if you look at my posts from the past you will notice they were a long time ago, fortunately i have matured :p
    corkcomp wrote: »
    if you were to do two hours every day in the rower you could eat more or less what you like but do you really want to go there??

    No I don't, one question though - Will rowing build up muscle in my thighs/arms rather than "tone" them? I don't want to bulk up, I want to tone up.

    Thanks for replies :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal



    Half an hour at a stroke rate of 25 for half an hour isn't that much honestly, especially if you've done 2k in less than 8 minutes.

    Um not too sure I understand this fully, like would a very highly intensive 8 min workout be more beneficial than a 30 min light/moderate row?
    [/QUOTE]
    On a sidenote, how much carry over does the concept 2 rower have into actual rowing? If you could easily do sub 2k rows on a concept rower would a rowing club welcome you on board?

    Not sure but it definately would not be my thing lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    No I can be serious when I want to, if you look at my posts from the past you will notice they were a long time ago, fortunately i have matured :p



    No I don't, one question though - Will rowing build up muscle in my thighs/arms rather than "tone" them? I don't want to bulk up, I want to tone up.

    Did you say you used to be a personal trainer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Hanley wrote: »
    Did you say you used to be a personal trainer?

    No I said I used to get personal training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭cardio,shoot me


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    Sorry, i genuinely meant 2000m in 7 mins. I used to do personal training so i had to keep beating my target of 2000m in under 8. Sorry my mistake


    that means you got personal training?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    that means you got personal training?

    Ohhhh ok I guess it makes sense now.

    And no, rowing won't bulk up your arms, legs or any other muscles, so don't be worrying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    On a sidenote, how much carry over does the concept 2 rower have into actual rowing? If you could easily do sub 2k rows on a concept rower would a rowing club welcome you on board?
    Rowers have what they call ergo fails. Guys who are deadly on the ergo but **** in the water. There's much more to rowing than being fit and powerful. I've only been in a real boat once and it took me the guts of two hours to make it look like I wasn't going to kill the other guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    that means you got personal training?

    Sorry wrong choice of wording :rolleyes:

    Ok so here to sum up, am I right in saying the advice given on this would be to

    1) Get my rowing technique correct before starting (to avoid back injury)

    2) To do short high intensity workouts rather than long moderate ones

    Is that basically it? Sorry I just want to be clear :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    So I've been using the rower every night (some times every second night) and I cn really see a difference and feel a difference in my upper arms already. Only thing is though I've gone up 2 pounds on the weighing scales but yet my diet hasn't really changed? Would this extra weight just be muscle?

    Also I'm doing 2000m in 8 mins 30secs. Is that good or bad? Really does take a lot out of you :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    So I've been using the rower every night (some times every second night) and I cn really see a difference and feel a difference in my upper arms already. Only thing is though I've gone up 2 pounds on the weighing scales but yet my diet hasn't really changed? Would this extra weight just be muscle?

    Also I'm doing 2000m in 8 mins 30secs. Is that good or bad? Really does take a lot out of you :(

    is the 8 min 30 sec the total per night?? even if this is very high intensity it is very little time tbh .. if you are actively trying to lose fat I would say drop the intensity (slightly) so that you can manage say 30 mins .. If the rower is your only form of exercise it is very unlikely you will have gained 2 lb in muscle in a couple of weeks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    corkcomp wrote: »
    is the 8 min 30 sec the total per night?? even if this is very high intensity it is very little time tbh .. if you are actively trying to lose fat I would say drop the intensity (slightly) so that you can manage say 30 mins .. If the rower is your only form of exercise it is very unlikely you will have gained 2 lb in muscle in a couple of weeks

    Thanks corkcomp.

    To answer your question every night I have the same routine more or less.

    Weights @ 20kg - 3 sets of 12
    2000m row moderate intensity in 8 mins 30 secs
    Plank - 40 seconds x 3
    1000m row very high intensity in 4 mins 30 secs

    I have noticed my arms been more toned. Can I improve or mix it up a bit in any way? I do be out of breath so it must be doing something good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    Thanks corkcomp.

    To answer your question every night I have the same routine more or less.

    Weights @ 20kg - 3 sets of 12
    2000m row moderate intensity in 8 mins 30 secs
    Plank - 40 seconds x 3
    1000m row very high intensity in 4 mins 30 secs

    I have noticed my arms been more toned. Can I improve or mix it up a bit in any way? I do be out of breath so it must be doing something good

    by intensity do you mean your effort or the setting on the rower?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    Cheeky_gal wrote: »
    Thanks corkcomp.

    To answer your question every night I have the same routine more or less.

    Weights @ 20kg - 3 sets of 12
    2000m row moderate intensity in 8 mins 30 secs
    Plank - 40 seconds x 3
    1000m row very high intensity in 4 mins 30 secs

    I have noticed my arms been more toned. Can I improve or mix it up a bit in any way? I do be out of breath so it must be doing something good

    anything that gets you out of breath is good so no worries there .. what specific exercise are you doing for 3 * 12? If you are able to complete 36 reps on the same body part every night then you most likely need to up the weight / reps - anyway you shouldnt train the same body part every night!
    on the cardio front, do try to mix it up a bit, aim for say 30 mins of moderate for 2 minutes, hard for one minute, repeat and so on ....


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