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Man gets hit by Train - Not Removed???

  • 30-07-2009 12:46pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭


    Can someone explain how this thread has not been locked and the link removed? It seems as though the video was leaked from the police investigation, as the AH Charter states that videos depicting such events that haven't "been officially released by proper channels should not be posted here" then surely this video contravenes the charter?

    I assume there is a reason why it is still up, so can someone please point it out?
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    +1 to the removal of this link.

    I'm a fairly roley-poley, fun-loving chap at the best of times but this video still being allowed to be potentially watched by children is just ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    Such action from a mod should not be condoned.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    +1 to the removal of this link.

    I'm a fairly roley-poley, fun-loving chap at the best of times but this video still being allowed to be potentially watched by children is just ridiculous.

    boards.ie is not responsible for parenting other people's children. If they are young enough to not understand what the thread title is and what the link is, and whether they should watch it or not, then their parents should be supervising their internet use.

    That said, perhaps the AH mods could explain why a link containing an real, live human being being hit by a train is being left on the site?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,311 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Silverfish wrote: »
    That said, perhaps the AH mods could explain why a link containing an real, live human being being hit by a train is being left on the site?

    He was asking for it if you ask me.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Silverfish wrote: »
    boards.ie is not responsible for parenting other people's children. If they are young enough to not understand what the thread title is and what the link is, and whether they should watch it or not, then their parents should be supervising their internet use.

    That said, perhaps the AH mods could explain why a link containing an real, live human being being hit by a train is being left on the site?

    1. It's up there on the internet for all to see.
    2. We think that there is merit in it. It reminds people of the dangers of playing near live train tracks.
    3. We have banned users in some cases and removed a number of insensitive comments from that thread.
    4. I have received no admin / cmod request to remove the link and think that there is merit in it remaining.
    You can't just cover your eyes and pretend that bad things don't happen. Well. Not in AH anyway.
    My 2c.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    It's not the link that should be removed but members like "Alan Rouge" who think it's fun to make ironic posts at other people's expense.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    1. It's up there on the internet for all to see.
    2. We think that there is merit in it. It reminds people of the dangers of playing near live train tracks.
    3. We have banned users in some cases and removed a number of insensitive comments from that thread.
    4. I have received no admin / cmod request to remove the link and think that there is merit in it remaining.
    You can't just cover your eyes and pretend that bad things don't happen. Well. Not in AH anyway.
    My 2c.

    I think that should cover it for anyone else who asks, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Alan Rouge wrote: »
    It's a youtube video with 300,000+ views that's been online since April.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SukTBSJJ4KM

    Have you watched the video or are you just taking the mickey ?

    I decided against watching it after reading the comments, I have no real desire to watch something like that. I haven't got a clue what its like, if it is real and the reactions are genuine then I think I made the right choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Its obvious that the boards mods dont want to take action on this. Check out the response I got on the Help Desk a while back.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055631944

    Wasting his time!
    You are sick mods....sick!


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,615 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Charco wrote: »
    Can someone explain how this thread has not been locked and the link removed? It seems as though the video was leaked from the police investigation, as the AH Charter states that videos depicting such events that haven't "been officially released by proper channels should not be posted here" then surely this video contravenes the charter?

    I assume there is a reason why it is still up, so can someone please point it out?

    +1 OP, I said on that thread that I'd take it to feedback and helpdesk but was actually warned off doing so by some of the 'higher ups'.
    I'm still ashamed I let that happen.


    Well done for getting this out in the open.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Charco wrote: »
    I decided against watching it after reading the comments, I have no real desire to watch something like that. I haven't got a clue what its like, if it is real and the reactions are genuine then I think I made the right choice.

    Good man. You get to sleep at night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Silverfish wrote: »
    boards.ie is not responsible for parenting other people's children. If they are young enough to not understand what the thread title is and what the link is, and whether they should watch it or not, then their parents should be supervising their internet use.

    Horse****. Then why the ****ing swear filter that ****ing blocks out half of the ****ing words in this sentence? Why place restrictions on the mythical super-sekrit humour forum nobody talks about? How come you can't lurk in the Thunderdome without being logged in? Where do we draw the line? You can police a few dirty words but a link to a man being struck by a train in the busiest forum on Boards is untouchable? I say "pah!" to that and deride you and all of your monsters.
    That said, perhaps the AH mods could explain why a link containing an real, live human being being hit by a train is being left on the site?

    Can't wait for this. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,311 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Jumpy. You and Charco are in the minority here. Sure its gruesome and might not be technidally suitable for children, but it also shows the real effects of playing near live tracks. If for no other reason this video should be left up as it shows just quick a train can approach at and the disastrous effects it can have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Jumpy. You and Charco are in the minority here. Sure its gruesome and might not be technidally suitable for children, but it also shows the real effects of playing near live tracks. If for no other reason this video should be left up as it shows just quick a train can approach at and the disastrous effects it can have.

    Tell that to my brain after seeing it. You get to pay for my therapy.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Charco wrote: »
    I decided against watching it after reading the comments, I have no real desire to watch something like that.

    That's fine. You have the brainpower required to make up your own mind as to what you want and don't want to read on this site. Congrats!

    So why don't you think that everyone else isn't able to make that decision also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    I knew that dr.bollocko was trouble. Sure look at the name. Not suitable modding for anyone below 16yrs.swearing filter be Damned! Terrible.

    Don't take it OP. The admins and those mods have some weird liberal video conspiracy going on and are silencing those speaking against it.
    I'm shocked at boards.ie and my fellow mods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Jumpy. You and Charco are in the minority here. Sure its gruesome and might not be technidally suitable for children, but it also shows the real effects of playing near live tracks. If for no other reason this video should be left up as it shows just quick a train can approach at and the disastrous effects it can have.

    We all know the dangers of driving a stolen Porsche and would like to warn the childer about those dangers, how come the Porsche girl photos haven't been posted? We all know you shouldn't visit Afghanistan if you're British/American, how come beheading videos aren't posted under "Cool Vids & Pics & Links?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    1. It's up there on the internet for all to see.
    2. We think that there is merit in it. It reminds people of the dangers of playing near live train tracks.
    3. We have banned users in some cases and removed a number of insensitive comments from that thread.
    4. I have received no admin / cmod request to remove the link and think that there is merit in it remaining.
    You can't just cover your eyes and pretend that bad things don't happen. Well. Not in AH anyway.
    My 2c.

    So what exactly is the point in having the AH charter? Was the video released by "Official Channels" because if it wasn't then it clearly contravenes the rule that I pointed out in the OP?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Nerin wrote: »
    I'm shocked at boards.ie and my fellow mods.


    There's a simple solution for that. Maybe you should consider resigning ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Nerin wrote: »
    I knew that dr.bollocko was trouble.

    You're telling me. He often refers to himself as a real doctor and PMs me offering prescriptions to "any medicine may need, no questions asked. ;)" The man is clearly unhinged.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Ponster wrote: »
    That's fine. You have the brainpower required to make up your own mind as to what you want and don't want to read on this site. Congrats!

    So why don't you think that everyone else isn't able to make that decision also?

    Because Boards doesn't work like that, it doesn't have a completely open policy where anyone can post any sh1t from the internet and people can decide whether they want to view it or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I'm glad this has been drawn to attention.
    I watched the video the day it was posted and haven't slept since - I'm starting to fade away, it's not good.

    But if you don't want to watch it - don't.
    Unrelated, I watched a video of a bloke getting mashed to smithereens by a racecar and it had no effect on me; that disturbs me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    Ponster wrote: »
    There's a simple solution for that. Maybe you should consider resigning ?

    Maybe i will!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Charco wrote: »
    So what exactly is the point in having the AH charter? Was the video released by "Official Channels" because if it wasn't then it clearly contravenes the rule that I pointed out in the OP?

    How does it clearly contravene the charter again? Is it obscene or uncomfortably realistic? Either way we are dealing in opinion here and not fact. Yours and mine differ.
    FFS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Is it obscene or uncomfortably realistic?

    duh?

    Its a man getting hit by a train


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    brummytom wrote: »
    I watched the video the day it was posted and haven't slept since - I'm starting to fade away, it's not good.

    Case in point. I'm not sure if everyone is aware of this, but young Tom here is younger than the average Boardsie. His account is testament to the damage the video has made to his nine-year-old brain and the trauma it could create to even younger posters like Piste, eVeNtIne et al.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Case in point. I'm not sure if everyone is aware of this, but young Tom here is younger than the average Boardsie. His account is testament to the damage the video has made to his nine-year-old brain and the trauma it could create to even younger posters like Piste, eVeNtIne et al.

    +1.
    I have saw terrible things on this here internet, the aforementioned racecar, Tommy Cooper dying, 2girls One Cup; but nothing... nothing has sickened me more than this video. Videos like these are the reason society's in decline - people are living in a culture of death :( .

    Doctor B, from someone in the health service, and most importantly a Michael Mcintyre fan! I'm disappointed Doc, I really am.

    If I had anything better to do, then I'd leave boards in disgust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Is it obscene or uncomfortably realistic?

    What do you mean by "uncomfortably realistic"? Has it been confirmed whether or not the video is a fake or real?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Charco wrote: »
    What do you mean by "uncomfortably realistic"? Has it been confirmed whether or not the video is a fake or real?

    I think if you saw it you'd probably agree that it is real.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I think if you saw it you'd probably agree that it is real.

    There he goes again, persuading more people to watch this sick video. Haven't you encouraged enough sleepless nights "Doc?" :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Charco wrote: »
    What do you mean by "uncomfortably realistic"? Has it been confirmed whether or not the video is a fake or real?

    There's not a doubt in my mind that it's real


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    I think if you saw it you'd probably agree that it is real.

    Ok then, so assuming that then the charter says:
    Videos depicting violence, murder, cruelty etc
    We have decided that showing these videos is only allowed under certain circumstances. News Articles which contain CCTV footage (which has been released by the police / families etc etc) is allowed provided there is a proper warning to go along with it. Videos depicting any of the above in a purely voyeuristic or morbid way i.e: Beheadings, Murder, Animal Cruelty used for propaganda purposes (PETA) or anything else that doesn't have comment or is inappropiate for public consumption, that hasn't been officially released by proper channels should not be posted here. IF IN DOUBT, PM A MODERATOR!

    Now, if the video was released by the police or the victims family then fair enough, the video would be abiding by the rules of the charter, however it seems as though it was not. Am I wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    I'm getting the feeling that I should watch the video...I think I have been had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Charco wrote: »
    I'm getting the feeling that I should watch the video...I think I have been had.

    We were all had once the malevolent dr.bollocko's ruthless regime began it's unqualified campaign in dragging Boards down into the gutter.

    Come back Karoma, all is forgiven. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    We were all had once the malevolent dr.bollocko's ruthless regime began it's unqualified campaign in dragging Boards down into the gutter.

    Come back Karoma, all is forgiven. :rolleyes:

    This would never happen under Karoma's regime.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Charco wrote: »
    Ok then, so assuming that then the charter says:



    Now, if the video was released by the police or the victims family then fair enough, the video would be abiding by the rules of the charter, however it seems as though it was not. Am I wrong?

    So does the burden of proof lie with me or with you or with youtube or whomever re-posted it?
    How is this inappropriate for public consumption?
    FFS He's not tortured to death. The guy gets hit by a train.
    Ever wondered what might happen if you play on train tracks? Here. Here's the ****ing video that shows you.
    If you're too bloody sensitive to watch it that's not my problem. I'm just giving people the option. It's marked NSFW.
    And if I hear that Karoma **** one more ****ing time I swear to **** I am stepping down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Ah crap :o

    I just watched the video.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    And if I hear that Karoma **** one more ****ing time I swear to **** I am stepping down.

    Karoma.



    /prepares celebratory confetti.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Thread delivers.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Charco wrote: »
    Ah crap :o

    I just watched the video.

    ...
    I would like to thank the academy....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Charco wrote: »
    Ah crap :o

    I just watched the video.

    657 658


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    This is now my second favorite thread on Boards

    After the one that spawned it however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Well I have learned a lesson, and it has nothing to do with walking on train tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Pimpey wrote: »
    This is now my second favorite thread on Boards

    After the one that spawned it however

    +1 (damn the no thanks button)

    Mods please delete these last few posts to let the outcry ensue? :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Charco wrote: »
    Ah crap :o

    I just watched the video.
    12464120235383.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Pimpey wrote: »
    This is now my second favorite thread on Boards

    After the one that spawned it however

    Can I take this opportunity to pimp this thread?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054887376


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    CHD wrote: »
    12464120235383.jpg

    That f*cking train is going to haunt me now. Damn that thread and its convincing responses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    seamus wrote: »
    Thread delivers.

    I've had better.*lights smoke*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Actually I was really just playing along guys, I had you all going, didn't I?

    I win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Charco wrote: »
    Actually I was really just playing along guys, I had you all going, didn't I?

    I win.

    LIE FAIL


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